EAC to revive stalled talks on expelled Rwandans

[Ngongo]

The East African Community (EAC) will revive stalled talks on the expulsion of Rwanda refugees from Kagera region in Tanzania at the height of soured relations between the two neighbouring countries in 2013.

The EAC Council of Ministers, which is the policy organ of the Community, will deliberate on the matter later this month ahead of the Ordinary Heads of State Summit which is likely to take place in Arusha on November 30th.

According to the Counsel to the Community Dr. Anthony Kafumbe, the EAC Secretary General had started efforts to diffuse the crisis in August 2013 and in January this year by convening bilateral meetings for the two partner states. Apparently no progress was made.

Dr. Kafumbe revealed this last week during the hearing of a case filed by the East African Law Society (EALS) against the Community SG for the alleged failure to take action in implementation of the EAC Council of Ministers' directive to the two countries to resolve the issue of expelled Rwandan citizens.

The Applicant was represented by Prof. Fredrick Sempembwa who submitted that the failure by the SG to comply with the Council?s decision was a breach of the Treaty for the Establishment of the EAC.

He further added that since the directive of the Council, the Community boss has apparently done nothing to implement the decision which is a fundamental issue of the Treaty particularly Article 71 which provides the functions of the Secretariat.

Prof. Sempebwa further contended that the expelled Rwandese were and still are bonafide citizens of an EAC member state "and therefore infringes the Treaty because they are entitled to the right of residence and the right of establishment as well as other rights within the Treaty and the Common Market Protocol of the Community".

He said that it was the duty of the Secretary General to carryout investigations and find out the truth of breach of the Treaty. He also sought remedies if the Court rules in favor of the Applicant.

Dr.Kafumbe representing the Respondent submitted that, the matter is time barred because it occurred in August 2013, up to the time the case was filed to Court on 8th September 2015 which, according to him, was beyond the two months time limit to file the case and it should have been filed within the provisions of Article 30 (2) of the Treaty.
He further stated that if the EAC boss had failed to take action as alleged still the matter could have been filed to court within the time limit.

He also urged that the decision being contested about is a decision directed to the Partner States that is Tanzania and Rwanda but not directed to the SG of the Community.

He again added that in Article 16 of the Treaty, Partner States have an obligation to implement directives of the Council, that so it does not require the SG once the directive is issued.

The matter came before a bench of the Judges of the First Instance Division composed of Honourable Lady Justice Monica Mugenyi (Principal Judge), Justice Isaac Lenaola (Deputy Principal Judge), Justice Dr. Faustin Ntezilyayo, Justice Fakihi A . Jundu and Justice Audace Ngiye in open Court.

The Court will deliver its judgment on notice.

Source: Arusha Times.

 

[bona]

according to EAC treaty people have the right to live anywhere in east africa? really?

 

[Ngongo]

according to EAC treaty people have the right to live anywhere in east africa? really?

No need of passport
No work permit 😛eep:

 

[inamankusweke]

according to EAC treaty people have the right to live anywhere in east africa? really?

and that anywhere-to them-must be tanzania?!

 

[Sijali]

JK hajasoma hiyo, au aliisomea angani. Msilaumu!

 

[jMali]

...Kwa sifa za Rwanda chini ya Kagame tunazoambiwa na kina mchambawima1 kila siku hapa JF, najiuliza kwa nini hata kama hawa watu sio wanyarwanda, wasione ni dili kufananishwa na wanyarwanda na kukubali kurudi Rwanda fasta? Eeh? Elimu bure, afya bure, no kipindupindu, hela nje nje, the happiest country in the world, barabara safi etc etc. Mimi nilidhani reaction ya hawa watu ingefanana na reaction ya mtu ambaye serikali ya Bongo imekosea na kudhani ni mhamiaji haramu kutoka marekani, na anatakiwa kurudishwa kwao marekani! Tehe tehe, hata kama sio kweli kwa nini hawa watu wapinge? hawataki kuhamia 'ulaya ya EAC'? :eek2:

bona inamankusweke Ngongo

 

[murutongore]

...Kwa sifa za Rwanda chini ya Kagame tunazoambiwa na kina mchambawima1 kila siku hapa JF, najiuliza kwa nini hata kama hawa watu sio wanyarwanda, wasione ni dili kufananishwa na wanyarwanda na kukubali kurudi Rwanda fasta? Eeh? Elimu bure, afya bure, no kipindupindu, hela nje nje, the happiest country in the world, barabara safi etc etc. Mimi nilidhani reaction ya hawa watu ingefanana na reaction ya mtu ambaye serikali ya Bongo imekosea na kudhani ni mhamiaji haramu kutoka marekani, na anatakiwa kurudishwa kwao marekani! Tehe tehe, hata kama sio kweli kwa nini hawa watu wapinge? hawataki kuhamia 'ulaya ya EAC'? :eek2:

bona inamankusweke Ngongo

wengi wamekuja kwa hiari tu....and note here the word "hiari"....tunachosema sisi? serikali ya tanzania isilazimishe watu ambao wana uraia wa tanzania ambao wamepewa kwa kufuata sheria kuja rwanda kwa nguvu simply because raisi wenu ameambiwa asiingilie siasa za wengine. Hizo ni siasa za kitoto. Mwenzako anakuonya kuwa kauli yako ni ya kichochezi halafu wewe unaona uwaonee raia wako eti kwa sababu wanafanana na wanyarwanda.

 

[JokaKuu]

..mwandishi anadai Tz imefukuza WAKIMBIZI.

..wewe unadai Tz imefukuza raia wake yenyewe.

..mwanasheria aliyepeleka kesi EAC, anadai waliofukuzwa ni WANYARWANDA.

..zaidi, mwanasheria huyo anadai kulingana na EAC treaty, wanyarwanda wana haki ya kuingia na kuishi Tz bila kizuizi chochote. kwa maana nyingine anadai mkataba wa EAC una nguvu kuliko sheria za uraia na ukaazi za Tz.

cc Ngongo, bona

 

[Kobello]

wengi wamekuja kwa hiari tu....and note here the word "hiari"....tunachosema sisi? serikali ya tanzania isilazimishe watu ambao wana uraia wa tanzania ambao wamepewa kwa kufuata sheria kuja rwanda kwa nguvu simply because raisi wenu ameambiwa asiingilie siasa za wengine. Hizo ni siasa za kitoto. Mwenzako anakuonya kuwa kauli yako ni ya kichochezi halafu wewe unaona uwaonee raia wako eti kwa sababu wanafanana na wanyarwanda.

Diplomacy ni uchochezi?
Nani kakwambia walipata uraia?

 

[murutongore]

..mwandishi anadai Tz imefukuza WAKIMBIZI.

..wewe unadai Tz imefukuza raia wake yenyewe.

..mwanasheria aliyepeleka kesi EAC, anadai waliofukuzwa ni WANYARWANDA.

..zaidi, mwanasheria huyo anadai kulingana na EAC treaty, wanyarwanda wana haki ya kuingia na kuishi Tz bila kizuizi chochote. kwa maana nyingine anadai mkataba wa EAC una nguvu kuliko sheria za uraia na ukaazi za Tz.

cc Ngongo, bona

Ukimpokea mtu ana certificate of naturalization ya tanzania, ana passport ya tanzania ameishi tanzania tangu azaliwe na ana miaka zaidi ya 45....huyo ni nani kwa mtazamo wako?

 

[murutongore]

Diplomacy ni uchochezi?
Nani kakwambia walipata uraia?

unajua maana ya certificate of naturalization?

 

[Ngongo]

Hapo sasa yaani nashindwa kuelewa kabisa nadhani kuna mkanganyiko wa CoW na mkataba wa EAC ambao baadhi ya nchi wameondoa vikwazo vya ukaazi na haki ya kufanyakazi lakini Tanzania hicho kitu sijakisikia.Majuzi nilikwenda Nairobi nilipita mpaka wa Namanga passport yangu iligongwa muhuri wakati wa kuingia na wakati narejea.

..mwandishi anadai Tz imefukuza WAKIMBIZI.

..wewe unadai Tz imefukuza raia wake yenyewe.

..mwanasheria aliyepeleka kesi EAC, anadai waliofukuzwa ni WANYARWANDA.

..zaidi, mwanasheria huyo anadai kulingana na EAC treaty, wanyarwanda wana haki ya kuingia na kuishi Tz bila kizuizi chochote. kwa maana nyingine anadai mkataba wa EAC una nguvu kuliko sheria za uraia na ukaazi za Tz.

cc Ngongo, bona

 

[Geza Ulole]

Ukimpokea mtu ana certificate of naturalization ya tanzania, ana passport ya tanzania ameishi tanzania tangu azaliwe na ana miaka zaidi ya 45....huyo ni nani kwa mtazamo wako?

inategemea amepata vp hiyo passport

 

[Geza Ulole]

according to EAC treaty people have the right to live anywhere in east africa? really?

mjaribu Kenya member of COW

 

[jMali]

wengi wamekuja kwa hiari tu....and note here the word "hiari"....tunachosema sisi? serikali ya tanzania isilazimishe watu ambao wana uraia wa tanzania ambao wamepewa kwa kufuata sheria kuja rwanda kwa nguvu simply because raisi wenu ameambiwa asiingilie siasa za wengine. Hizo ni siasa za kitoto. Mwenzako anakuonya kuwa kauli yako ni ya kichochezi halafu wewe unaona uwaonee raia wako eti kwa sababu wanafanana na wanyarwanda.

Hakuna mtu yeyote aliyefukuzwa akiwa raia wa Tanzania. Usianze kutengeneza facts zako za uongo. Wote waliofukuzwa ni raia wa Rwanda waliokuja KIHARAMU! Ndio maana muandishi wa hii post anachodai ni kuwa wanyarwanda hawa wana haki ya kuishi TZ per EAC treaty, na wala hadai kuwa hawa sio wanyarwanda.

 

[jMali]

Ukimpokea mtu ana certificate of naturalization ya tanzania, ana passport ya tanzania ameishi tanzania tangu azaliwe na ana miaka zaidi ya 45....huyo ni nani kwa mtazamo wako?

Hakuna tofauti na Kagame na the entire RPF army while they were in Uganda! Did all those certificates stop them from being Rwandans? When Kagame went to US on scholarship alitumia passport ya wapi?
Hata hivyo, hebu onyesha mtu mmoja tu kati ya waliofukuzwa anayepinga kufukuzwa kwake kwa kudai yeye ni mtanzania mahakamani! Mmoja tu!

cc: Ngongo bona

 

[MK254]

Hapo sipati picha murutongore, kweli ndugu zetu Watanzania ni shughuli. Eti unasema baadhi ya hao waliofukuzwa Tanzania walikua wamezaliwa humo, na wameishi zaidi ya miaka 45 na wana certificate of naturalization. Huo si unyama jameni? Mtu hata kama asili yake Marekani ila amezaliwa nchi yako na kuishi hiyo miaka yote, ukimpeleka Marekani lazima atachanganyikiwa, hata kama kuzuri kivipi.

Ndio mimi nilishakataa katakata haya mambo ya kuingiliana, siwezi ishi nchi ya watu wala kuruhusu watoto wangu wasomee huko. Nimepata fursa nyingi sana za viwanja huko Tanzania, haswa pale Kigamboni lakini siwezi thubutu aki ya nani hii noma. Ingia, piga kazi zako halafu geuza, Wahindi na Waarabu ndio huwa nawashangaa, wamefaulu kununua viwanja, kujenga na kuishi bila kujali ubaguzi wa aina yoyote ile. Lakini mweusi noma, eti Kagame na Kikwete wanakosana kidogo kwa maneno, hapo mnaanza kuwafukuza wote kisa na asili ya Rwanda.

 

[JokaKuu]

Ukimpokea mtu ana certificate of naturalization ya tanzania, ana passport ya tanzania ameishi tanzania tangu azaliwe na ana miaka zaidi ya 45....huyo ni nani kwa mtazamo wako?

..unachokisema ni tofauti na kilichoandikwa kwenye hiyo article hapo juu.

..mkataba wa EAC hauko juu ya sheria za Tz. sielewi kwanini hamtaki kukubaliana na hilo.

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

The East African Community (EAC) will revive stalled talks on the expulsion of Rwanda refugees from Kagera region in Tanzania at the height of soured relations between the two neighbouring countries in 2013.

The EAC Council of Ministers, which is the policy organ of the Community, will deliberate on the matter later this month ahead of the Ordinary Heads of State Summit which is likely to take place in Arusha on November 30th.


According to the Counsel to the Community Dr. Anthony Kafumbe, the EAC Secretary General had started efforts to diffuse the crisis in August 2013 and in January this year by convening bilateral meetings for the two partner states. Apparently no progress was made. .

if there is right for free movement, why were they expelled?

 

[mchambawima1]

Hakuna mtu yeyote aliyefukuzwa akiwa raia wa Tanzania. Usianze kutengeneza facts zako za uongo. Wote waliofukuzwa ni raia wa Rwanda waliokuja KIHARAMU! Ndio maana muandishi wa hii post anachodai ni kuwa wanyarwanda hawa wana haki ya kuishi TZ per EAC treaty, na wala hadai kuwa hawa sio wanyarwanda.

hivi wewe nini mbona unapenda ligi za kipumbavu? yaani kwa vile unabishana na murutongore basi lazima uwe insane!

[h=2]Govt set to compensate victimised Tanzanians in Operation Kimbunga[/h]


BY SYLIVESTER DOMASA



30th October 2013

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Shamsi Vuai Nahodha, Minister for Defence and National Service


Government has pledged to give some ?form of compensation to Tanzanians that were mistakenly victims of the ongoing crackdown operation against illegal immigrants dubbed ?Kimbunga?.

The announcement was made yesterday in parliament by the Minister for Defence and National Service, Shamsi Vuai Nahodha who assured the House that the government is very much aware of the ?mistakes? and it will not hesitate or deter from some form of compensation.

?I agree with the legislator, I cannot directly say what the government will do, but I can guarantee him that the government will take action upon identification of people who were mistakenly netted in the operation,? he pledged responding on behalf of Prime Minister Mizengo Pinda.

The response was prompted by the leader of the Official Opposition in Parliament, Freeman Mbowe, who inquired whether the government plans on compensating Tanzanians who were mistakenly netted in operation Kimbunga.

Mbowe, the MP for Hai (Chadema), maintained that, despite good intensions, the operation was not properly organized nor effectively conducted and occasioned the violation of human rights.

??their rights were violated so will the government be ready to compensate the Tanzanians who were mistakenly affected by the operation?? he inquired. Earlier, the Home Affairs Deputy Minister, Pereira Silima, told the National Assembly that the operation is still on going and will be conducted in all districts in the country following registered success in Geita, Kagera and Kigoma regions.

The government recently took various measures to arrest illegal immigrants including the said operation kimbunga. The illegal immigrants were sought out in upcountry regions, at road blocks, through police patrols and raids on hotels.

In his official visit to Kagera Region last August, President Jakaya Kikwete formed a task force comprised of officers from the Police Force, Immigration Department, Intelligence Unit and the Tanzania People?s Defence Forces.

It was charged with organizing a special operation to ensure all illegal immigrants in Kagera, Kigoma, Simiyu and Geita regions are sent back to their home countries. This followed residents? complaints of illegal immigrants from Rwanda, Burundi and DRC committing crimes in their areas.

The President gave illegal immigrants a two -week grace period to leave the country on their own volition before the operation began and when it did, thousands were nabbed along various weapons recovered including guns and rifles.



SOURCE: THE GUARDIAN