Could these be ancient genetical engineering/mutation efforts which failed with disastrous end?


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Mar 8, 2009
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Is it possible that Genetical Engineering and Manipulations actually touched ground in thousands of years ago??? That, our current efforts of doing the same are actually childish compared with past accomplishments??? Are there any references to such happenings???? Lets build a case; please read the following excerpts. You can add better cases depending on your chosen position of the debate. For swahili versions please use Google Translate software but with own editorials. We start with;

a. The apocryphal Book of Enoch: 6:1-6

1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' 3. And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' 4. And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' 5. Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 6. And they were in all two hundred; who descended ⌈in the days⌉ of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.

Part of that story is repeated in

b. Genesis 6:4

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

Eventually the Book of Enoch carries the story further

c. The apocryphal Book of Enoch: 7:1-6

And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3. Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them,4. the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5. AND THEY BEGAN TO SIN AGAINST BIRDS, AND BEASTS, AND REPTILES, AND FISH, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. 6. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones

c. The apocryphal Book of Enoch: 8:1-8

1. Moreover Azazyel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates, the fabrication of mirrors, and the workmanship of bracelets and ornaments, the use of paint, the beautifying of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and select kind, and of all sorts of dyes, so that the world became altered, 2. Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways, 3. Amazarak taught all the sorcerers, and dividers of roots, 4. Armers taught the solution of sorcery, 5. Barkayal taught the observers of the stars, 6. Akibeel taught signs, 7. Tamiel taught astronomy, 8. And Asaradel taught the motion of the moon.

d. The apocryphal Book of Jubilees 5:2-3 states:

And lawlessness increased on the earth and all flesh corrupted its way, alike man and cattle and beasts and birds and everything that walks on the earth – all of them corrupted their ways and their orders, and they began to devour each other, and lawlessness increased on the earth and every imagination of the thoughts of all men [was] thus evil continually

Then we encounter planet EARTH WITH HUMAN HYBRIDS

2 Samuel 23:20

“And Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, the son of a valiant man, of Kabzeel, who had done many acts, he slew two LION-LIKE men of Moab: he went down also and slew a lion in the midst of a pit in time of snow.”

Examples of human-animal hybrids from mythical traditions

1. Kinnaras, another half-man half-horse mythical creature from the Indian mythology, appeared in various ancient texts, arts as well as sculptures from all around India. It is shown as a horse with the torso of a man in place of where the horse's head has to be, that is similar to a Greek centaur. Source:

2. Greek’s Centaur: THE KENTAUROI (Centaurs) were a tribe of half-man, half-horse savages who inhabited the mountains and forests of Thessalian Magnesia. They were a primitive race who made their homes in caves, hunted wild animals for food and armed themselves with rocks and tree branches. The Kentauroi were spawned by the cloud-nymphe Nephele after she was violated by the impious Lapith king Ixion. were spawned by the cloud-nymph Nephele after she was violated by the impious Lapith king Ixion. She deposited her double-formed brood on Mount Pelion where they were nursed by the daughters of the immortal kentauros Kheiron (Chiron) Source: CENTAURS (Kentauroi) - Half-Horse Men of Greek Mythology

3. Half human half LION (Egypt)


My take:
That a group of Extra-Terrestrial (ET) travelers (200 in number), arrived aboard a spaceship in the middle East location close to the current Lebanon-Syrian-Israel border Mountain of Hermon. From their vantage altitude they could see that planet earth had humans. However, these people were very primitive completely backward and unlearned in many things. The leader of these ETs suggests to his fellows what if they improved and taught those humans some wide scope of technologies and skills to improve their livelihoods??? But he is also uncertain if the earthly dwellers DNAs could be suitable for genetic improvement/manipulation. He is actually worried of consequences back home if such experiments were revealed (probably this was not part of the mission-not authorized). It is until he is assured by all fellow ETs that having from so far the curiosity it was worth trying that he approves descend onto planet earth through Mt. Hermon to make actual contact. These ETs use 200 women for genetical engineering/manipulations experiments to create hybrids. But at the same time they also taught resident men various skills like iron smithing, painting, agriculture etc. However, these experiments are unethically extended into hybridization with animals of the land and sea which consequently result into half men-half animal races (eg mermaids, lion-like men etc). It seems from the local mythologies at the time, these half-men-half animal races did disperse into many places like Europe (Greece) all the way into Asia (Indian sub-continent) and northern Africa (Egypt-sphinx etc).

The consequence of all this is behaviour of these hybrids was not controlled, nor were there adequate resources to sustain them. In short these experiments failed to deliver towards their good intension. They ended up polluting the human DNA beyond imaginations. Mother earth started having creatures that were terminators in every sense. Nature had to find a way of erasing all this stuff. Come the famous Noah's Flood.

My conclusions from these narrations in the Books of Enoch, Genesis etc is that these texts are reports of actual events in which actual genetic experiments failed and eventually spilled into unethical regions. Question, are we not not HEADING same way with the NEW GENE EDITING sciences???? What are genome editing and CRISPR-Cas9?


Wana JF,

Je! Hivi inawezekana kwamba Uhandisi wa Gene/Maumbile (Genetic Engineering) sio kitu kigeni na kwamba huenda ulishafanyika maelfu ya miaka iliyopita? Kwamba, jitihada zetu za sasa za kufanya genetic manipulations ni kama watoto wachanga ikilinganishwa na hayo yaliyonyika zama hizo?? Mimi naamini haya yote yalishafanyika huko awali. Utaelezea msimamo wako. Ushahidi wangu Tunaanza na;

a. Kitabu cha Apocrypha cha Enoki: 6: 1-6 (Hakipo kwenye Biblia, Kisome Online)-Pia kipo kwa kingereza, tafsiri ni yangu.
1. Na ikawa, wana wa wanadamu walipoongezeka kwamba siku hizo walizaliwa mabinti wazuri wa kuvutia. 2. Na malaika, wana wa mbinguni, wakawaona, wakawatamani, wakaambiana: "Njooni, tuchague wanawake katika wana wa wanadamu ili tupate watoto." 3. Na Semjâz, ambaye alikuwa kiongozi wao, akawaambia: "Naogopa ninyi hamtakubali kulifanya jambo hili, kisha mimi peke yangu ndio nitaadhibiwa adhabu ya dhambi hii kubwa." 4. Wote wakamjibu, wakisema, Hebu tujifunge kwa kiapo, kuwa hatutaacha kutekeleza mpango huu, bali kulifanya jambo hili. 5. Kisha wakaafikiana wote pamoja kwa kuapa kuutekeleza 6. Nao walikuwa mia mbili; ambao walishuka siku za Jared kwenye kilele cha Mlima Hermoni, na waliuita huo Mlima Hermoni, kwa sababu walikuwa wameapa na kujifunga na mpango huo hapo.

Sehemu ya hadithi hiyo inarudiwa tena

b. Mwanzo 6: 4
" Wanefili walikuwa duniani siku hizo, na pia baada ya hapo, wakati wana wa Mungu wa kweli walipoendelea kulala na binti za wanadamu nao wakawazalia wana, hao ndio waliokuwa watu wenye nguvu wa kale, wanaume wenye sifa”

Hatimaye Kitabu cha Enoki kinaendelea

c. Kitabu cha Enoki: 7: 1-6
Na wote kwa pamoja wakajitwalia wanawake, kila mmoja akajitwalia mmoja kwa ajili yake mwenyewe, wakaanza kuingiliana nao na kujishughulisha nao, na wakawafundisha siri za uchawi, kukata mizizi, na mimea. 2. Wakawa na mimba, wakazaa majitu makubwa, ambao urefu wao ulikuwa ni ELLS elfu tatu (yaani sawa na 3.429 kms urefuuu!!!): 3. ambao walikula raslimali zote za wanadamu. Na binadamu wakashindwa kuwalisha, 4. Kisha, hao Majitu wakageuka na kuanza kula watu. 5. Kisha, wakaanza kuwatendea dhambi Ndege, Wanyama, Mijusi/Nyoka (Reptiles) na Samaki na hatimaye kulana wao kwa wao na kunywa damu. 6. Kisha ardhi ikawashtaki kwa kule kukosa kwao kutii sheria

d. Kitabu cha Enoki: 8:1-2
Kisha Azazyel akawafundisha wanaume kutengeneza mapanga, visu, ngao, utengenezaji wa vioo, kutengeneza mikufu na mapambo, matumizi ya rangi, kuremba kope, matumizi ya madini ya vito, ya kila rangi, kiasi cha kuibadili dunia 2. Uasi ukazidi, uzinifu ukaongezeka, wakapitiliza mipaka na kuvuruga kila kitu

e. Kitabu cha Jubilee 5: 2-3

Na uovu uliongezeka juu ya ardhi na nyama wote waliharibikiwa, ikawa wanadamu, n’gombe na wanyama wenginewo na ndege na kila kitu kinachotembea duniani - wote walivurugikiwa wakaacha kawaida yao na wakaanza kulana, na uasi uliongezeka juu ya ardhi na mawazo yote ya mawazo ya watu wote yalikuwa mabaya daima

f. Kisha tunakuta masimulizi ya Hybrids (Nusu watu nusu wanyama)

2 Samuel 23:20
"Naye Benaya mwana wa Yehoyada, mwana wa kiume mwenye nguvu, wa Kabzeeli, aliyefanya matendo mengi, aliwaua wanaume wawili (Lion-Like-----Simba-Watu wawili) wa Moabu; naye akampiga na kuua simba ndani ya shimo wakati wa theluji. "

g. Mifano ya Nusu watu nusu wanyama kwenye simulizi za kale

1. Kinnaras, India (nusu farasi nusu mtu)

2. Centaur ya Kigiriki: KENTAUROI (Centaurs) walikuwa kabila la watu nusu-farasi, waliishi milima na misitu ya Magnesia ya Thesaloniki. Walikuwa ndio wa kwanza Kutengeneza nyumba zao katika mapango. Waliwinda wanyama mwitu kwa mawe na matawi ya miti.

3. Nusu binadamu Nusu Simba (Misri)

Uelewa Wangu:

Zamani sana, kundi la Viumbe toka sayari zingine (Extra-Terrestrial Travellers) (200 kwa idadi), waliitembelea dunia yetu, merikebu yao ya angani ilifika sambamba na eneo la Mashariki ya Kati karibu na mpaka wa Lebanoni-Syria-Israeli juu ya Mlima wa Hermon.

Wakiwa anga za juu waliweza kuona kwamba dunia yetu ilikuwa na wanadamu. Hata hivyo, wanadamu wa nyakati hizo walikuwa nyuma SANA kimaendeleo na wasiojua mambo mengi. Hali hii ilimgusa sana Kiongozi wa hawa ET yeye akidhani kuwa mojawapo ya kuwasaidia hawa wanadamu ilikuwa kuwafundisha stadi muhimu za kimaisha na teknolojia na ujuzi wa kuboresha maisha yao. Lakini pia aliona mwanya mwingine ni Kuhandisi Gene za hawa wanadamu wapate Hybrids watakao kuwa bora kuendeleza maisha ya kidunia. Yaelekea hakuna aliyekuwa na uhakika kama DNA za wakazi wa duniani zinaweza kufaa kwa uboreshaji wa maumbile. Yeye alihofia kufanya Genetical engineering mwenyewe (nahisi hawakuruhusiwa toka huko kwao kufanya jambo kama hili). Ndio maana anahofia kuadhibiwa peke yake akirudi nyumbani endapo angejaribu kitu kama hiki. Ni mpaka alipohakikishiwa na wenzie wote kwamba kuhandisi GENE za hawa wanadamu ilikuwa ni jambo la maana na WOTE walikubali kushiriki haya majaribio. Hapo ndipo wote wakashuka juu ya Mlima Hermon.

Majaribio yalihusisha wanawake 200 kwa ajili ya uhandisi wa GENE ili kuunda hybrids. Lakini wakati huo huo hawa ETs waliwafundisha wanaume wenyeji ujuzi mbalimbali kama uhunzi wa chuma, kutengeneza silaha, mapambo, uchoraji, kilimo nk. Hata hivyo, yaelekea majaribio haya yalileta madhara kadhaa; kwa mfano (a) kulizaliwa Mijitu tunayosimuliwa mingine ilifikia hadi urefu wa 3 kms. Mijitu hii ilikuwa kilaa walichozalisha watu na bila kushiba. Mwshowe binadamu wakageuka kuwa kitoweo (b) yalipanuliwa yakihusisha GENE za wanadamu na wanyama wa nchi na bahari hali ambayo ilisababisha kupatikana kizazi cha nusu-watu nusu-wanyama jamii (mfano mermaids-nguva , watu-simba, watu-farasi na kama vile) hivyo kuchafua uhalisia wa gene za binadamu (c) Inaonekana kutokana kwa hadithi za zama hizo jamii hizi za nusu-nusu za wanyama zilienea katika maeneo mengi kama Ulaya (Ugiriki), Asia (India) na kaskazini mwa Afrika (Misri-sphinx nk). Kufika kwa hawa watu-nusu-wanyama maeneo yote haya ni ama kwa makusudi au viumbe hawa (hybrids) walitoroka na kutapakaa na kuanza kuipotosha zaidi DNA ya binadamu na viumbe wengine zaidi ya mwanzo (d) yaelekea hawa ETs walifikia mahali wakashindwa kumudu au kudhibiti hicho walichounda ka kujikuta dunia imetapakaa hawa viumbe wasioeleweka.

Kwa maoni yangu Mafuriko ya Noah yalikuja ili kuiondolea dunia hili janga. Hitimisho langu ni kuwa NADHANI simulizi za Kitabu cha Enoki, na Mwanzo nk ni ripoti za majaribio ya Uhandisi wa GENE yaliyofanyika zamani ila hayakusimamiwa vizuri hadi kuleta madhara makubwa kwa walioishi wakati ULE.

Nauliza; Hii teknolojia MPYA ya KUHARIRI Gene, HAITATUFIKISHA KULE KULE???? Soma What are genome editing and CRISPR-Cas9?

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