Africa should take lead in flushing out FDLR - German envoy

[murutongore]

Amb. Fahrenholtz.

The German Ambassador to Rwanda, Peter Fahrenholtz, has said the African Union should take the lead in bringing an end to the issue of FDLR and ensure peace and security in eastern DR Congo.

Fahrenholtz said this, yesterday, after a meeting with legislators in Parliament, where had accompanied seven members of German parliamentary group in charge of East African affairs.

Anita Schafer, the leader of the visiting German legislators(L) together with German Ambassador to Rwanda Peter Fahrenholtz at parliament listen.

The delegation, which arrived at the weekend, is the country on a four-day official visit to assess progress made by Germany-sponsored development projects, budget support and inter-parliamentary relations.

Speaker Donatille Mukabalisa urged the delegation to tell the world Rwanda's concerns on matters of insecurity in eastern DR Congo caused by FDLR, a terror group comprised largely of remnants of masterminds of the 1994 Genocide against the Tutsi.

"We asked the German MPs to be our voice in the international community, push for FDLR to be flushed out and also enact laws that criminalise Genocide revisionism and promotion of genocide ideology," Mukabalisa told reporters.

On his part, Fahrenholtz said the German government believes that FDLR and other armed groups in DR Congo have to be dissolved, but "with cooperation of African governments."

Top FDLR political leaders Ignace Murwanashyaka and his deputy Straton Musoni are currently on trial in a German court.

"This [FDLR issue] is taking place in an African country, we can't come in and violate the sovereignty of the continent. We want to do this together with African leaders and the African Union," the envoy said.

A deadline given for the FDLR to voluntarily disarm or face military offensive elapsed on January 2. However, the parties tasked with the offensive are embroiled in endless rhetoric.

The Congolese army and Monusco are responsible for the offensive but the UN has declared it will not work with the former, claiming that two Congolese generals tasked with leading the offensive have questionable human rights records.

Amb. Fahrenholtz (L) chats with MP Zeno Mutimura during the German legislators' visit to Parliament yesterday.

Kinshasa had appointed Gen. Bruno Mandevu to head the FARDC operation against FDLR and Gen. Fall Sikabwe as commander of the 34th military region, covering eastern DR Congo's North Kivu Province where the offensive would concentrate.

The brouhaha was described by Foreign Affairs minister Louise Mushikiwabo as "cheap politicking by some international actors who would wish to use the militia group for selfish interests."

However, Amb. Fahrenholtz insisted that regardless of the delays to neutralise FDLR, the international community has a consensus and similar opinion, that there has to be peace in eastern DR Congo.

"Monusco has never been in a better shape than they are in now. They have all the resources; FDLR has to be dissolved. It is 20 years after the Genocide, we have to end this conflict and focus on rebuilding the region," he said.

The envoy said the UN spends about $1.5 billion on Monusco every year, all in the name of resolving insecurity problems in eastern DR Congo and creating a lasting peace in the Great Lakes Region. Germany alone contributes about $100 million to the cause, he said.

"Rwanda has done well in rebuilding itself, and is now moving toward becoming a middle income economy. It is important that this conflict ends so that the entire region flourishes like Rwanda," the envoy said.

"We are in the 21st century; African problems have to be solved by Africans, but we can come in and support in goodwill."

Germany's foreign affairs minister is expected in Kinshasa tomorrow, before his stop-over in Kigali on Friday, where issues regarding FDLR could be on the agenda.

Source:newtimes

 

[East African Eagle]

"with cooperation of African governments."

Very wise commend.I hope Rwanda Government will also cooperate with FDLR as FDLR is ready to cooperate with Rwanda government in talks.

 

[MSHINO]

GERMAN and EU Countries shuould flush out first FDRL seniors before pointing fingers to AFRICAN countries.

 

[MSHINO]

Very wise commend.I hope Rwanda Government will also cooperate with FDLR as FDLR is ready to cooperate with Rwanda government in talks.

Wise gani hapo? viongozi wa hao FDRL wanaishi ulaya waanze wao kwanza ndiyo sisi africa tufate. hapa UN na DRC wanacheza game, hakuna wa kuwapiga FDRL, wamepigana kuisaidia serikali ya DRC dhidi ya M23, Tanzania inajua ikiwapiga itakuwa imekula matapishi yake baada ya kutoa ushauri wa PK kuzungumza nao, harafu tukawapige. thubutu nani wa kufanya hivyo? hao FDRL wengi wamezaliwa baada ya mauaji ya kimbari.

 

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murutongore
Nilijua labda aliongea chancelor wa ujerumani, kumbe ni balozi wa ujerumani aliyeko kwenye kale kanchi kadogo kama mkoa wa dodoma kenye mji mkuu wa kigali ambao uko sawa na mji wa arusha. balozi kwasababu bado anaishi hapo kwenu lazima atasema hivyo ili kuwachota akili awachunguze wee lakini akimaliza mda wake akapanda ndege kurudi berlin, utakuja kusikia atakachosema hutaamini macho yako.

Halafu, nimeamini kweli kagame halali usingizi kwa fdlr. fdlr hawajafika hata 3000, kagame ana jeshi la watu 30,000 lakini halali usingizi anawaogopa hawa jamaa yaani pichu ya Kagame kila siku inachafuka kwani kitu kinagonga pichu kwa woga kila siku. kama yeye hakuwaua wahutu kwanini anaogopa, kama hajawaua wacongo milioni tano anaogopa nini? siku zake zimehesabiwa.

 

[nyumba kubwa]

Nadhani hapa kuna point tunamiss...Monusco wako kurudisha amani Rwanda au DRC? Mbona Chigali inaonekana kuwa na ki font front kuliko wenye nchi yao DRC.

DRC weshasema wata deal na FDRL kivyao vyao...hao Monusco nadhani wangepaki virago tu warudi makwao...waheshimu sovereignty ya DRC....hilo li budget la UN lingeelekezwa kuipa nguvu DRC hasa kijeshi.

Hao Rwanda watulie tu as long as hao FDRL hawajatia mguu kwenye ardhi yao...wa focus kwenye kulinda mipaka yao na si kuingia kwenye nchi ya watu...maana kufanya hivyo sasa ni kujitangazia vita na DRC.

Wise gani hapo? viongozi wa hao FDRL wanaishi ulaya waanze wao kwanza ndiyo sisi africa tufate. hapa UN na DRC wanacheza game, hakuna wa kuwapiga FDRL, wamepigana kuisaidia serikali ya DRC dhidi ya M23, Tanzania inajua ikiwapiga itakuwa imekula matapishi yake baada ya kutoa ushauri wa PK kuzungumza nao, harafu tukawapige. thubutu nani wa kufanya hivyo? hao FDRL wengi wamezaliwa baada ya mauaji ya kimbari.

 

[MSHINO]

nilijua labda aliongea chancelor wa ujerumani, kumbe ni balozi wa ujerumani aliyeko kwenye kale kanchi kadogo kama mkoa wa dodoma kenye mji mkuu wa kigali ambao uko sawa na mji wa arusha. balozi kwasababu bado anaishi hapo kwenu lazima atasema hivyo ili kuwachota akili awachunguze wee lakini akimaliza mda wake akapanda ndege kurudi berlin, utakuja kusikia atakachosema hutaamini macho yako. halafu, nimeamini kweli kagame halali usingizi kwa fdlr. fdlr hawajafika hata 3000, kagame ana jeshi la watu 30,000 lakini halali usingizi anawaogopa hawa jamaa yaani pichu ya kagame kila siku inachafuka kwani kitu kinagonga pichu kwa woga kila siku. kama yeye hakuwaua wahutu kwanini anaogopa, kama hajawaua wacongo milioni tano anaogopa nini? siku zake zimehesabiwa.

PK anajua wale 3000 walioko DRC ni asilimia kidogo, wengi wako nje tena ulaya na hao ndiyo architecture wa mission nzima. lkn utasikia FDRL watoke congo. naamini hata hapa bongo wapo kibao walioiingia km wakimbizi then wakaingia mtaani.

 

[MUKAMASIMBA]

murutongore
Nilijua labda aliongea chancelor wa ujerumani, kumbe ni balozi wa ujerumani aliyeko kwenye kale kanchi kadogo kama mkoa wa dodoma kenye mji mkuu wa kigali ambao uko sawa na mji wa arusha. balozi kwasababu bado anaishi hapo kwenu lazima atasema hivyo ili kuwachota akili awachunguze wee lakini akimaliza mda wake akapanda ndege kurudi berlin, utakuja kusikia atakachosema hutaamini macho yako.

Halafu, nimeamini kweli kagame halali usingizi kwa fdlr. fdlr hawajafika hata 3000, kagame ana jeshi la watu 30,000 lakini halali usingizi anawaogopa hawa jamaa yaani pichu ya Kagame kila siku inachafuka kwani kitu kinagonga pichu kwa woga kila siku. kama yeye hakuwaua wahutu kwanini anaogopa, kama hajawaua wacongo milioni tano anaogopa nini? siku zake zimehesabiwa.

Unajua ukisema FDLR si kusema hao materahamwe tu bali na nchi kama france,tz,congo na south afrika....kwahiyo kama wewe huelewi yanayojili huko congo tulia usi seme usiyo yajua.

 

[MUKAMASIMBA]

Nadhani hapa kuna point tunamiss...Monusco wako kurudisha amani Rwanda au DRC? Mbona Chigali inaonekana kuwa na ki font front kuliko wenye nchi yao DRC.

DRC weshasema wata deal na FDRL kivyao vyao...hao Monusco nadhani wangepaki virago tu warudi makwao...waheshimu sovereignty ya DRC....hilo li budget la UN lingeelekezwa kuipa nguvu DRC hasa kijeshi.

Hao Rwanda watulie tu as long as hao FDRL hawajatia mguu kwenye ardhi yao...wa focus kwenye kulinda mipaka yao na si kuingia kwenye nchi ya watu...maana kufanya hivyo sasa ni kujitangazia vita na DRC.

wewe mambo ya kabila ni kamchezo anachezea wazungu amegundua kwamba hawa wazungu nia yao ilikua kuwaondoa watusi congo halafu afuatie kabila sasa jamaa kawageuka na atafurahi kua na congo isiyokua na amani ili aendelee kuongoza akidai yuko anatafuta amani mashariki ya kongo,mzungu anajua mtusi akitawala congo ulaji na uporaji utakua mwisho.

 

[jMali]

wewe mambo ya kabila ni kamchezo anachezea wazungu amegundua kwamba hawa wazungu nia yao ilikua kuwaondoa watusi congo halafu afuatie kabila sasa jamaa kawageuka na atafurahi kua na congo isiyokua na amani ili aendelee kuongoza akidai yuko anatafuta amani mashariki ya kongo,mzungu anajua mtusi akitawala congo ulaji na uporaji utakua mwisho.

....halafu mkiambiwa mnataka kuleta hima empire mnakataa. cc: nyumba kubwa.

 

[MUKAMASIMBA]

....halafu mkiambiwa mnataka kuleta hima empire mnakataa. cc: nyumba kubwa.

siyo hima empire ndugu yangu,nikwasababu imeisha onekana kwa wazungu mtusi akitawala hawawezi leta uhuni wao ila hawa waafrika wengine zao ni kuwainamia wazungu na kusema ndiyo bwana.

 

[MOTOCHINI]

Unajua ukisema FDLR si kusema hao materahamwe tu bali na nchi kama france,tz,congo na south afrika....kwahiyo kama wewe huelewi yanayojili huko congo tulia usi seme usiyo yajua.

Sasa kma Tanzania wamo hebu mjaribu basi kuingia ndani ya tz mseme mnawasaka kama mfanyavyo DRC muone kama hamjambi kinyesi cheupe

 

[jMali]

siyo hima empire ndugu yangu,nikwasababu imeisha onekana kwa wazungu mtusi akitawala hawawezi leta uhuni wao ila hawa waafrika wengine zao ni kuwainamia wazungu na kusema ndiyo bwana.

so basically what you are saying is that the tutsis are inherently better leaders than the rest of us bantus isn't?

 

[MUKAMASIMBA]

so basically what you are saying is that the tutsis are inherently better leaders than the rest of us bantus isn't?

wewe jmali nani kakwambia the rest ni bantus?uliza vizuri afrika sio watusi na wahutu tu.....kuna makabila mengi sana.

 

[jMali]

wewe jmali nani kakwambia the rest ni bantus?uliza vizuri afrika sio watusi na wahutu tu.....kuna makabila mengi sana.

wabantu sio kabila vile vile, ni group la makabila yenye similar features like FLAT NOSES, etc, ila turudi kwenye comment yako:

siyo hima empire ndugu yangu,nikwasababu imeisha onekana kwa wazungu mtusi akitawala hawawezi leta uhuni wao ila hawa waafrika wengine zao ni kuwainamia wazungu na kusema ndiyo bwana.

let's forget about bantus, maana najua tutakesha hapo, let me rephrase my question: "so basically what you are saying is that the tutsis are inherently better leaders than the rest of us "non-tutsis" isn't?

 

[murutongore]

wabantu sio kabila vile vile, ni group la makabila yenye similar features like FLAT NOSES, etc, ila turudi kwenye comment yako:

let's forget about bantus, maana najua tutakesha hapo, let me rephrase my question: "so basically what you are saying is that the tutsis are inherently better leaders than the rest of us "non-tutsis" isn't?

Hhahahaahaha....mkabila namba moja anaongea. Utakufa na pressure wwee...nilishakuambia re-writing the history a'int gonna happen bwaaaay. Keep on dreaming.

 

[jMali]

Hhahahaahaha....mkabila namba moja anaongea. Utakufa na pressure wwee...nilishakuambia re-writing the history a'int gonna happen bwaaaay. Keep on dreaming.

kama mimi mkabila huyu mtutsi mwenzio tumuiteje? Au na wewe unakubaliana na matamshi yake juu ya sisi non-tutsis?

siyo hima empire ndugu yangu,nikwasababu imeisha onekana kwa wazungu mtusi akitawala hawawezi leta uhuni wao ila hawa waafrika wengine zao ni kuwainamia wazungu na kusema ndiyo bwana.

cc: MK254 are you a tutsi? if not do you agree with mukamasimba about whatever tribe you are?

 

[murutongore]

kama mimi mkabila huyu mtutsi mwenzio tumuiteje? Au na wewe unakubaliana na matamshi yake juu ya sisi non-tutsis?



cc: MK254 are you a tutsi? if not do you agree with mukamasimba about whatever tribe you are?

Pitting one against another doesn't erase your tribalistic DNA dimwit.

 

[jMali]

Pitting one against another doesn't erase your tribalistic DNA dimwit.

siyo hima empire ndugu yangu,nikwasababu imeisha onekana kwa wazungu mtusi akitawala hawawezi leta uhuni wao ila hawa waafrika wengine zao ni kuwainamia wazungu na kusema ndiyo bwana.

.....hiyo "tribalistic DNA" unayozungumzia iko kwa jmali anayepinga hiyo statement above au mukamasimba aliyeitoa na kuitetea? :heh:

 

[murutongore]

.....hiyo "tribalistic DNA" unayozungumzia iko kwa jmali anayepinga hiyo statement above au mukamasimba aliyeitoa na kuitetea? :heh:

Ok...lets just say umeshinda. Happy? hahahahaha