Umeme na Nishati: Tatizo sugu Tanzania

[Nyani Ngabu]

Tunaweza kwenda mbali zaidi tukaiga ...Singapore, Taiwan, China etc (hawa tulikuwa nao sawa wakati fulani)...au unasemaje

Kama tulikuwa sawa kwa nini wametuacha tena kwa mbali tu....? Najua utasingizia sera mbovu...

 

[deny_all]

Kama tulikuwa sawa kwa nini wametuacha tena kwa mbali tu....? Najua utasingizia sera mbovu...

Ndio swali la kujiuliza sisi kama taifa. Lakini jingine ni kuwa kwa kuona wenzetu tuliokuwa nao level moja wakati fulani wamesonga mbele inaamanisha kuwa inawezekana...........

Challenge inabakia kwetu sisi kama taifa kama tunahitaji kufika huko waliko wenzetu au kuendelea na status quo.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Ndio swali la kujiuliza sisi kama taifa. Lakini jingine ni kuwa kwa kuona wenzetu tuliokuwa nao level moja wakati fulani wamesonga mbele inaamanisha kuwa inawezekana...........

Challenge inabakia kwetu sisi kama taifa kama tunahitaji kufika huko waliko wenzetu au kuendelea na status quo.

Of course it's possible but you need to have what it takes in order to make it happen.....something which is lacking...

 

[deny_all]

Of course it's possible but you need to have what it takes in order to make it happen.....something which is lacking...

Kwa sisi watanzania sidhani kama tumewahi kujiuliza 'what it takes to make it happen'......nadhani mwendo wetu ni wa zimamoto (firefighting). Tukiona wakenya wanapata mapato mengi kwenye utalii basi na sisi tunakwenda CNN na UK kutangazwa kuhusu utalii wetu. Hatujaangalia kama hoteli tunazo za kutosha na ku-encourage watu wajenge zaidi, tumetrain watu wengi with good qualification kufanya kazi kwenye tourism industry, miundombinu husika iko vizuri etc ......

 

[Semilong]

inanishangaza sana hii nchi ku bajeti $200m kwa ajili ya vitambulisho na $60m kwa ajili ya umeme. Huu ni upumbavu wa hali ya juu au ni hela ya uchaguzi mkuu ujao.
Vitambulisho vimeshidwa kuzuia madrid bombings, na mambo mengine mengi na nchi nyingi zinavipinga, je tz vitatusaidia nini?

Vitambulisho havitasaidia kitu tz kwa ajili ifuatayo:
1. Asilimia kubwa ya watanzania ni wakulima na wanaishi vijijini, mkulima akitoka nyumbani habebi wallet anabeba jembe kwenda shambani kwa hiyo itakuwa ni kwa matumizi ya watu wa mjini.

2. Tanzania haina polisi wa kutusha kwenda kwenye eneo la tukio haraka je hao polisi wa uhamiaji watawatoa wapi kwa ajili ya vitambulisho na kama nia yao ni kusimamisha ujambazi, watumie hiyo hela kuajiri polisi wnegi na sio vitambulisho.

3. Watanzania wengi ni maskini sana kama mtu anaweza kupata passport ya dili kwa data za mtu mwingine itashindikana id ya mtu mwingine ( mnaokaa ngambo mtanielewa kuhusu kufogi ilivyo rahisi hasa kwa matu maskini). Ulaya watu wanafogi sana id za watu na huku watu hawana njaa kama bongo.

Umeme ni muhimu sana

1. Hiyo hela inatosha kununua jenerata mpya za zaid 20omw (sio dowans na haitachukua mwaka mmoja kufika kama dr tanesco anavyotudanganya). Itakuja kwa kipindi cha miezi sita kama rostam alivyoileta dowans.

2. Kama kukiwa na umeme wa uhakika wawekezaji watakuja wengi , kwa hiyo ajira itapatikana, ujambazi kupungua na serikali kupata hela kupitia kodi. Wawekezaji hawapendi kwenda kwenye nchi ambazo hazina umeme.

Mawazo yote yanakaribisha

 

[Rev. Kishoka]

Naomba niurudishe huu mjadala tena kwa kuipima Tanesco na kinachoendelea kuhusiana na nishati ya umeme.

Mama unazungumzia Stieglers Gorge ambayo iko kwenye bonde a mto rufiji. Bwawa la umeme likijingwa hapa, litakuwa na uwezo mkubwa wa kuitosheleza Tanzania marudufu, takriman MegaWati 2100.

Kwa mujibu wa Tanesco, uwezo wa mabwawa tuliyonayo na mitambo mingine tunayoitumia ya gesi na diseli, ni Megawati 939.

INSTALLED GRID GENERATION CAPACITY (AS AT 31.12.2006)
PLANT
HYDRO, DIESEL OR GAS
INSTALLED CAPACITY
OWNERSHIP
Kidatu
Kihansi
Mtera
New Pangani Falls
Hale
Nyumba ya Mungu
SONGAS
IPTL
Aggreko


Dowans Holdings
(Ex- Richmond Development Corporation)

Grid Connected Diesel P/Stations
Hydro Power Plant
Hydro Power Plant
Hydro Power Plant
Hydro Power Plant
Hydro Power Plant
Hydro Power Plant
Gas Turbines
Diesel – run plant
Gas Turbines


Gas Turbines




Diesel – run plants
204 MW
180 MW
80 MW
68 MW
21 MW
8 MW
182 MW
100 MW
40 MW


22 MW



34 MW
TANESCO
TANESCO
TANESCO
TANESCO
TANESCO
TANESCO
PRIVATE
PRIVATE
PRIVATE
(Leased for 2 years)
PRIVATE (Leased for 2 years)


TANESCO


TOTAL
939 MW

Lakini bado Tanesco na wizara ya Nishati haijaweza kutoa Tathmini nzuri kutuambia kuwa Tanzania tunahitaji umeme wa kiasi gani kwa mwaka.

Kuna mipango kibao ya kujenga na kuzalisha umeme iwe ni mabwawa au makaa ya mawe, ukipiga mahesabu ya haraka, utakuwa kuwa gharama za mipango hii mipya ni sawa na gharama za kuijenga Stieglers ambayo ni dola Billioni 2.

MASTER PLAN

The first power system master plan was drawn up in 1980 followed by another one in 1985 and the latest one in 1999, which is updated annually. Some of the projects recommended in the PSMP include:

Project Year Cost USDM

Installation of (40 MW) gas turbine 2005 ......34.50
Conversion of IPTL diesel units to gas 2006 .....12.30
Zambia – Tanzania (200 MW) interconnector 2010 ...168.10
Ruhudji hydropower (35.8 MW) 2012 ..400.63
Mchuchuma Coal fired plant (200 MW) 2018 ...201.72
Mchuchuma Coal fired plant (200 MW) 2023 ...176.50
Rumakali hydropower (222 MW) 2024 ..338.16

Jumla ya hii miradi hapo juu in Us $1.3 billion, sasa ukiongezea pesa tulizopoteza kwa kuwalipa IPTL, Richmond an Dowans, unakuta kuwa tuna pesa nyingi za kuweza kuwa na mradi kabambe wa kuzalisha umeme wa kututosha bila kutoka jasho.

Hata kama tukiacha tumia hizi pesa za miradi hii hapo juu, angalia pesa tulizofuja BOT, Ndege, Rada na Kiwira, jumla si chini ya US $ 1 billion!

Swali linakuja, je tuna dhamira ya kweli kupata ufumbuzi wa kudumu au tunaendelea kuziba viraka na kujihujumu kwa kutumia miradi midogo midogo isiyo ya maana.

ukiendelea kusoma mipango ya Tanesco, kuna jambo ambalo linajifunua wazi na sina uhakika kama hili limepandwa kwa makusudi au ni ukweli.

Kwa mujibu wa Tanesco kama jedwali la kwanza hapo juu linavyoonyesha, Dowans ndio walikuwa wazalishaji wa umeme wa mitambo iliyoletwa na Richmond. Na hii ni tangu Disemba ya 2006! Lakini ni Rais Kikwete akihojiwa na waandishi wa Nipashe January ya 2007 aliyesema Msabaha angejinyonga kwa kuingia mkataba na Richmond.

ni vipi basi kama nukuu inavyoonyesha hapa chini kuwa Tanesco ilishajua kuwa Richmond imeiuzia Dowans mitambo?

STATUS OF EMERGENCY POWER SUPPLY PROJECTS
Background Due to poor hydrology conditions, Tanzania experienced throughout the years 2003 up to 2006, significant drop of water inflows to hydropower dams, which resulted into significant reduction of hydro electricity generation. This phenomenon was notable in the Great Ruaha and Pangani river systems. Hydropower which was up to year 2001 contributing about 97.5% of the energy needs in the national grid system, by year 2005, the contribution of hydropower had dropped to about 50% and by mid – year 2006 to 30 percent of the national grid energy needs. To subsidise this deficit, TANESCO resorted to importing more thermal energy from IPTL and SONGAS. The cost of this imported thermal energy is so high that the Government has had to give substantial amount of subsidies to TANESCO. However, as the hydrology situation worsened in 2006, TANESCO has had no option but to institute load shedding in order to stretch the little available water in the hydropower dams for a longer period. On the other hand, the Government approved TANESCO’s plans to implement short term generation projects to avoid severe energy shortages which had serious negative consequences in the national economy.

1. RENTAL GAS BASED 40 MW AGGREKO PLANT

• Purpose: To install a rental (leased) 40 MW gas based power generating plant at Ubungo, near the fuel tanks.
• Financier: The Government of Tanzania.
• Project Cost: Us dollars 61.0 million (T.Shs. 70.7bn/-)
• Contractor: M/S Aggreko of United Arab Emirates. The contract was signed on 26th July 2006,the rental contract is for two years.
• Status: The first phase of 20 MW plant was commissioned in October, 2006 and the second phase of 20 MW in November, 2006. There are no reported problems with the gas supply.


2. RENTAL GAS BASED 100 MW DOWANS HOLDINGS PLANT

• Purpose: To install a rental (leased) plant at Ubungo where at site B (near the SONGAS plant) units of 22 MW are installed and at site A (behind TANESCO Head Office Ubungo building) units of 80 MW are to be installed this year.
• Financier: The Government of Tanzania .
• Project Costs: T.Shs. 172.5 billion/=
• Contractor: Initially the contractor was M/S Richmond Development Corporation (RDC) of United States of America. The contract was signed on 23rd June 2006 and the works were supposed to have been completed in 150 days, and the rental contract is for two years. M/S RDC however on 23rd December 2006 assigned his rights and obligations acceptable within the contract, to M/S Dowans Holdings Ltd. of United Arab Emirates.
• Status: Delivery of the first 20MWplant was done and by the end of the year the plant was still undergoing test runs. The contractor managed to connect to the grid on several occasions but the plant has not stabilized due to technical problems. The balance of the plant i.e. 80 MW was sea frighted and equipment was received in Dar es Salaam on 27th December, 2006. Installation is expected to start when site leveling and compaction works are completed.

3. RENTAL DIESEL ENGINES 40 MW ALSTOM PLANT FOR MWANZA

• Purpose: Construction of a rental 40 MW diesel/gas based power plant in Mwanza to alleviate the power shortages in the grid and to stabilize the grid, especially in the North West portion.
• Project financier: The Government of Tanzania .
• Project Cost: US dollar 150 million
• Contractor: M/S Alstom Power Rentals LLP of Houston, United States of America.
• Status: Logistical arrangements for project roll out are still going on. Compaction works and concrete casting of slippers are going on at site (total 200 pieces of slippers are required). Supplier of fuel already appointed by TANESCO Tender Board.

4. 100 MW PERMANENT GAS BASED TANESCO PLANT

• Purpose: Construction of a 100 MW gas based power generating plant at Ubungo, behind TANESCO Head Office.
• Financier: The Government of Tanzania.
• Project Cost: Euro 57,550,000.00 (T.Shs. 102.237 billion/-).
• Contractor: M/S Wartsila of Finland. The contract was signed on 20th June 2006. The plant is scheduled to be completed within eleven months. The consultant is M/S Lahmeyer Internationed of Germany.
• Status: Civil works for foundations are on going which includes excavation for foundations and site leveling. Preparation of the Operations and Maintenance (O & M) Contact is in progress.

5. TEGETA 45 MW PERMENENT PLANT BY WARSILA

• Purpose: To generate power using natural gas to meet the growing power demands in Tanzania.
• Financier: The Government of the Kingdom of the Netherlands under ORET/MILIEV program.
• Project Cost: Euro 31 million (T.Shs. 45 billion).
• Status The Oret Grant has been approved. The plant is also scheduled to be completed within eleven months. It will be built near the IPTL power plant at Tegeta, and it will have new gas engines, using gas from Songo Songo Island. Preparation for transporting the engines from Wartsila, Finland were going on.

6. 200MW COAL FIRED KIWIRA POWER PLANT

It is also expected before the end of year 2007, the Kiwira Coal & Power Limited of Mbeya would increase its production of coal – to- electricity generation from 6 MW to 50 MW, during the first phase.

Summary

When all these rental and permanent upcoming generation projects become fully generational before the end of year 2007, they will add up a total of 375 MW into the national grid. This is apart from 282 MW from IPTL and SONGAS, and 561 MW from the hydro power plants. The highest demand (maximum consumer demand) recorded by TANESCO around Christmas time last year in the national grid network was 603 MW. The TANESCO power system will therefore be able to meet the consumer demand during the year because the dams have sufficient water levels and the reserve thermal capacity is large enough to meet the consumer demand.

Si dhumuni langu kuendelea na mdahalo kuhusiana na Dowans, lakini ni kujiuliza ni vipi Tanzania na Tanesco zinashindwa kuwa na mipango imara ya kuzalisha umeme kwa kisingizio kuwa hatuna pesa, huku tunazo nyingi na tunazimumunya kwa ujinga?

 

[Ogah]

Hivi hiyo mitambo ya Dowans/ RDC waliitoa wapi........kwa anayejua please

 

[Rev. Kishoka]

Hivi hiyo mitambo ya Dowans/ RDC waliitoa wapi........kwa anayejua please

supposedly some where in either North Carolina if not South Carolina. We need name of manufaturer, model and year they were made!

 

[BAK]

Nchi ikiingia kizani sijui itakuwa kwa muda gani makampuni mengi yatasimamisha uzalishaji, kupunguza kwa kiasi kikubwa utendaji wake wa kila siku. Hili litasabiasha baadhi ya makampuni hayo kupunguza wafanyakazi aua kufunga kabisa viwanda vyao na matokea yake kodi zinazokusanywa na serikali toka makampuni na viwanda hivyo na wafanyakazi waliojiriwa huko yatapungua sana na kuathiri bajeti ya serikali na mipango yake mingi (kana wana mipango yoyote inayoeleweka na Watanzania). Tukikosa vitambulisho kwa maoni yangu tutakuwa tumeokoa shilingi bilioni 200 kama nchi tumeweza kuishi miaka 48 sasa bila vitambulisho na hakukuwa na matatizo yoyote yale, lakini tukikosa umeme hata kwa miezi sita tu athari zake ni kubwa mno.

 

[omarilyas]

Naomba niurudishe huu mjadala tena kwa kuipima Tanesco na kinachoendelea kuhusiana na nishati ya umeme.

Mama unazungumzia Stieglers Gorge ambayo iko kwenye bonde a mto rufiji. Bwawa la umeme likijingwa hapa, litakuwa na uwezo mkubwa wa kuitosheleza Tanzania marudufu, takriman MegaWati 2100.

Kwa mujibu wa Tanesco, uwezo wa mabwawa tuliyonayo na mitambo mingine tunayoitumia ya gesi na diseli, ni Megawati 939.

Lakini bado Tanesco na wizara ya Nishati haijaweza kutoa Tathmini nzuri kutuambia kuwa Tanzania tunahitaji umeme wa kiasi gani kwa mwaka.

Kuna mipango kibao ya kujenga na kuzalisha umeme iwe ni mabwawa au makaa ya mawe, ukipiga mahesabu ya haraka, utakuwa kuwa gharama za mipango hii mipya ni sawa na gharama za kuijenga Stieglers ambayo ni dola Billioni 2.

Jumla ya hii miradi hapo juu in Us $1.3 billion, sasa ukiongezea pesa tulizopoteza kwa kuwalipa IPTL, Richmond an Dowans, unakuta kuwa tuna pesa nyingi za kuweza kuwa na mradi kabambe wa kuzalisha umeme wa kututosha bila kutoka jasho.

Hata kama tukiacha tumia hizi pesa za miradi hii hapo juu, angalia pesa tulizofuja BOT, Ndege, Rada na Kiwira, jumla si chini ya US $ 1 billion!

Swali linakuja, je tuna dhamira ya kweli kupata ufumbuzi wa kudumu au tunaendelea kuziba viraka na kujihujumu kwa kutumia miradi midogo midogo isiyo ya maana.

ukiendelea kusoma mipango ya Tanesco, kuna jambo ambalo linajifunua wazi na sina uhakika kama hili limepandwa kwa makusudi au ni ukweli.

Kwa mujibu wa Tanesco kama jedwali la kwanza hapo juu linavyoonyesha, Dowans ndio walikuwa wazalishaji wa umeme wa mitambo iliyoletwa na Richmond. Na hii ni tangu Disemba ya 2006! Lakini ni Rais Kikwete akihojiwa na waandishi wa Nipashe January ya 2007 aliyesema Msabaha angejinyonga kwa kuingia mkataba na Richmond.

ni vipi basi kama nukuu inavyoonyesha hapa chini kuwa Tanesco ilishajua kuwa Richmond imeiuzia Dowans mitambo?


Si dhumuni langu kuendelea na mdahalo kuhusiana na Dowans, lakini ni kujiuliza ni vipi Tanzania na Tanesco zinashindwa kuwa na mipango imara ya kuzalisha umeme kwa kisingizio kuwa hatuna pesa, huku tunazo nyingi na tunazimumunya kwa ujinga?

Kaka kuhusu Stiglers huu ulukuwa uzembe wa hali ya juu. Kuna kigogo mmoja wa TANESCO enzi zile alikwamisha huu mradi ambao tayari serikali ya Sweden ilikuwa tayari kufinance. Kuna jamaa UDSM aliandika Thesis huu mradi na ameeleza mengi sana.

ALSTOM ndio scandle ya kutisha. Mitambo imefungwa na hadi mkataba unaisha haikutumika hata kutengeneza umeme wa nyumba moja. Hata hivyo tuliwalipa all the charges. Nasikia hata mitambo yenyewe ilishafunguliwa na kuhamishiwa Dar na "wenyemali"... Yaani hapa ndio kuna aibu kubwa lakini kwa kuwa haihusishi sana siasa/maslahi ya makundi CCM huoni moto ukiwaka "BUNGENI"....

Kama nilivyosema hapo kabla tuwe makini sana na hawa MASIHA FEKI ambao wanachofanya ni kuendelea kuendelea kuhalalisha MFUMO FISADI na kuwadanganya watanzania kuwa wanapambana na MAFISADI. Hii ni vita ya wenyewe kwa wenyewe ndani ya CCM ambayo nia pekee ni kuendelea kulinda uhalali wa tabaka tawala. Hata Mwalimu alikosea aliposema kuwa upinzani mzuri utatokea CCM. Huu utakuwa upinzani mzuri kwa maslahi ya TABAKA HILI LILOSHINDWA KUTEKELEZA MAJUKUMU YAKE KWA WATANZANIA lakini kamwe skwa WATANZANIA haswa wale walalahai(MiddleClass) na walala hoi(DOWNTRODDEN)

omarilyas

 

[YNIM]

Nyani,

Wala usione aibu, sema wazi tukusikie, "ndivyo tulivyo", wavivu w kufikiria, wavivu wa kufanya kazi, waoga wa kuingia gharama, tuliokosa ubunifu na zaidi mwamko wa uzalendo=Kutegemea misaada!

Ubunifu utatoka wapi wakati mmefungia nje mainjinia, ninyi mangwini ndio mnatoa maamuzi ya kiinjinia!! Kaaaazi kweli!

 

[Rev. Kishoka]

Kaka kuhusu Stiglers huu ulukuwa uzembe wa hali ya juu. Kuna kigogo mmoja wa TANESCO enzi zile alikwamisha huu mradi ambao tayari serikali ya Sweden ilikuwa tayari kufinance. Kuna jamaa UDSM aliandika Thesis huu mradi na ameeleza mengi sana.

ALSTOM ndio scandle ya kutisha. Mitambo imefungwa na hadi mkataba unaisha haikutumika hata kutengeneza umeme wa nyumba moja. Hata hivyo tuliwalipa all the charges. Nasikia hata mitambo yenyewe ilishafunguliwa na kuhamishiwa Dar na "wenyemali"... Yaani hapa ndio kuna aibu kubwa lakini kwa kuwa haihusishi sana siasa/maslahi ya makundi CCM huoni moto ukiwaka "BUNGENI"....

Kama nilivyosema hapo kabla tuwe makini sana na hawa MASIHA FEKI ambao wanachofanya ni kuendelea kuendelea kuhalalisha MFUMO FISADI na kuwadanganya watanzania kuwa wanapambana na MAFISADI. Hii ni vita ya wenyewe kwa wenyewe ndani ya CCM ambayo nia pekee ni kuendelea kulinda uhalali wa tabaka tawala. Hata Mwalimu alikosea aliposema kuwa upinzani mzuri utatokea CCM. Huu utakuwa upinzani mzuri kwa maslahi ya TABAKA HILI LILOSHINDWA KUTEKELEZA MAJUKUMU YAKE KWA WATANZANIA lakini kamwe skwa WATANZANIA haswa wale walalahai(MiddleClass) na walala hoi(DOWNTRODDEN)

omarilyas

Ndugu,

nimetoka kuperuzi kwenye kitabu cha Kjell Havnevick cha Tanzania: The Limits to Development from above na kuna reference nzuri sana kuhusianian na Stiegler Tanzania: The Limits to Development ... - Google Book Search

kisha kuna mwanamama Ann Dannaiya Usher ambaye anaandika kuhusu bwawa la Pangani kwenye kitabu chake Dams as Aid Dams as Aid: A Political Anatomy of ... - Google Book Search

Wote hawa wawili ikiongeza na Manongi http://iodeweb1.vliz.be/odin/bitstream/1834/531/1/Wetlands103113.pdf utaona kuna uzembe wa hali ya juu wa sisi wenyewe na hata wafadhili wetu waliotusaidia kwenye hii miradi.

Hapo ndipo utajua kuwa misaada mingine haikuwa na manufaa hata kidogo.

Lakini swali bado linarudi kwetu, ni lini tutakaa chini na kuja na program ya muda mrefu ya Nishati ili tuweze kuwa wazalishaji mali hodari na makini? Using Gordon Brown words of high value product and services, the question becomes when can we the People of tanzania implement high value vision and execute high value plans using high valued leadership and high value labor?

Hili la Umeme linanikera sana, the fact that Tanesco wanakiri kuwa umemem huu unafikia only 11% ya Taifa inaonyesha kuna kasoro za hali ya juu!

HISTORY

The first supply of electricity in Tanzania was established by Germans in 1908 at Dar es Salaam. It served the railway workshops and part of the town. When Tanganyika territory was mandated to Great Britain in 1920, a Government Electricity Department was formed under the Tanganyika Railways. In 1931, the Government handed over the undertaking at Dar es Salaam, and new ones, which had emerged at Dodoma, Tabora and Kigoma to private enterprise.

Two private power companies were formed, one was the Tanganyika Electric Supply Company Limited (TANESCO), which was given a concession area on the Pangani Falls near Tanga. The other company was the Dar es Salaam and District Electric Supply Company Limited (DARESCO) whose concession areas were Dar es Salaam, Dodoma, Tabora and Kigoma; and later expanded to Mwanza, Moshi, Mbeya, Morogoro, Mtwara and other townships. Electricity generation in all these towns greatly depended on imported diesel oil. TANESCO developed the first hydro power station at Kange, in the outskirt of Tanga, along Pangani River.

In 1964, three years after independence, the Government bought all the shares from the two private companies and merged them into a single utility under TANESCO. In 1968, the company changed its name to the Tanzania Electric Supply Company Limited, as we know it today.

Since then, TANESCO started planning new power projects aimed at meeting the increasing industrial, commercial, and residential power demands. Several major power development and construction projects have therefore been undertaken during the past three and half decades, including construction of new hydropower stations, transmission and distribution networks. Construction of the national grid system; numerous 220 kV, 132 kV, 66 kV, 33 kV and 11 kV transmission distribution lines as well as 400V / 230V lines connecting customers. Many isolated diesel power stations and rural electrification schemes have been constructed. However, about only 11 percent of the country’s estimated population of 34 million have access to reliable electricity.

source Tanesco.com

 

[omarilyas]

Si dhumuni langu kuendelea na mdahalo kuhusiana na Dowans, lakini ni kujiuliza ni vipi Tanzania na Tanesco zinashindwa kuwa na mipango imara ya kuzalisha umeme kwa kisingizio kuwa hatuna pesa, huku tunazo nyingi na tunazimumunya kwa ujinga?

Kaka ni muhimu sana kuendeleza mdahalo huu wa sekta ya umeme Tanzania. Bado kuna NetGRoup issue haina majibu, bado kuna ufisadi wa ALSTOM haujapatiwa majibu, bado kuna UFISADI wa enzi wa IPTL hauana majibu...Huu ndio wakati wa kuwaamsha watanzania walionza kusisinzia tena baada ya kuanguka kwa KINARA WA UFISADI na hizi kesi zinazoendelea....

GE walikuwa moja ya sponsors wa LEON SULLIVAN SUMMIT ya Arusha. Kwa kushirikiana na USAID walifanya presentations na lobbying makini kuliko washiriki wote waliokuwepo hapo. Mimi nilishtuka sana kuwaona hapo na haswa baada ya kusikia jinsi wanavyopigia mchepuo suala la REGIONAL ENERGY POOL STRATEGIES kama ilivyo huko west africa. Kwangu mimi hii ilikuwa ni strategy ya kuingia katika mpambano wa uhodhi wa TANZANIA energy potentials kati ya Uncle SAM na makamarade wetu CHINA. Hii ikitilia maanani kuwa serikali ya Marekani ilifikia kutishia kusimamisha utekelezaji wa msaada wa MCC kama serikali/bunge hawajapitisha sheria mpya ya umeme ambayo ingeruhusu sekta binafsi kushindana sawa na TANESCO katika maeneo yote yaani utengenezaji, usambazaji na igawaji kitu ambacho kilikuwa kinapingwa na wengi wa wabunge wetu.

omarilyas

 

[Rev. Kishoka]

Ubunifu utatoka wapi wakati mmefungia nje mainjinia, ninyi mangwini ndio mnatoa maamuzi ya kiinjinia!! Kaaaazi kweli!

Be more specific on this and give examples!

 

[Rev. Kishoka]

Kaka Omar,

nilikuwa na maana ya thread hii isiwe ni kujadili Dowans maana kuna thread karibu 6 zinajadili suala la Dowans na Tanesco.

Hapa mimi nimedhamiria ni kuongelea suala zima la umeme na nishati Tanzania.

Tukirudi kwemye mfano wako wa GE, mwaka juzi nafikiri Tanzania ilitembelewa na Kibosile mmoja mkubwa wa GE. Huyu jamaa Mhabeshi ni EVP ambaye yuko based South Afrika. Nilitegemea basi labda Tanesco, Ewura au wizara wangejigonga gonga wapewe hata subsidised pricing ya Mitambo, lakini nafikiri kama kawaida yetu, focus yetu ilikuwa ni vipi tutapata mlo!

No wonder procurement za Tanzania zinapitia middle men wa ajabu na si directly to the manufatures. i would rather see a State operated company procuring on behalf of Serikali everything and not uzabuni kwa kina Gire au Vithlani.

Hivi wale commercial and trade attachee wetu walioko kwenye balozi zetu nchi za nje kazi zao ni nini?

 

[Rev. Kishoka]

On Kihansi and its costs

Lower Kihansi Hydropower Dam and Reservoir Project - Water Technology

 

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To answer your question Umeme ni muhimu kuliko vitambulisho... PERIOD!!!!!!!!

 

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To answer your question [precisely] Umeme ni muhimu kuliko vitambulisho... PERIOD!!!!!!!!

 

[Susuviri]

Rev Kishoka, naomba nianze kwa kukupongeza kwa kuanzisha thread nzuri (as always) ambayo inataka kupata larger picture na si firefighting na frivolous details kama kawaida yetu.
Naomba nitoe mfano thread "ni kweli mpaka uolewe utoe tigo" ilivyokuwa active kwa wiki nzima na post 400 na kitu! Lakini hapa unakuta watu wanabaki clued to a word or sentence you wrote. Lakini inabidi uwe mvumilivu, hii ndo demokrasia.

Getting to your topic kwa nini tunashindwa kutatua suala la Nishati na kwa nini ni tatizo sugu, mimi nadhani kuna mchangiaji (kumradhi sioni post yake kwa haraka) amezungumzia system mbovu. My friend Nyani amebisha, lakini ukweli ni kwamba it is a matter of system. If you enter a system, you try to adapt and swim with the current. unfortunately system nzima ni mbovu. Kibaya zaidi system hii haiko straightforward , ina mabonde na milima na kuna kona kibao za kukata. Lakini the larger picture is that Tanzanian public system was built on the wrong fundamentals. it was build around a strong presidency, who nominates (not elect and not approved by parliament) his ministers, the principle secretaries, District commissioners, regional commissioners etc. Sasa kama watendaji hawa ni political appointmees, huwezi kutegemea kuwa wataleta decision yoyote ya kutetea wananchi, siku zote watatetea mtu aliyewaweka madarakani and that is the president. This was the system that Mwalimu left for us (true he did inherit partly from colonizers but it was convenient for him to keep it and thus exert control over all areas of authority) na tunaendelea nayo bila kuhoji.
Hivyo system is weak, there is no accountability na everybody is busy kissing a$$ of the powerful.
Tatizo lingine ni lack of innovative lateral thinking - hii ni kutokana na kuwa family and education system yetu ina discourage any thinking and initiative, let alone lateral thinking. We are just handed down information and we have to take it and spew it back the way that we are told.
Sasa unafikiri kuna watu kule Tanesco ambao wako katika leadership level who a) understand the problem including the source b) have worked out the solution long and short term c) are brave enough to stand up and give proper advice d) [upper management] have guts to implement it
Hapa kila mtu anajua Dr Idris is the boss he has the ear of the president (her was appointed by JK, he did not earn it in an open process, he was not vetted by the parliament)
kila mtu anaelewa that this man has a vested interest in buying Dowans nobody dares question or cross him. So they are told "find alternatives that don't work, because we have to buy Dowans equipment" so they obediently do it. They are told to 'upgrade their system' and cease LUKU services, they do it. That is why my dear friend Nyani gets exasperated and says Miafrika ndivyo tulivyo. Because we lack initiative. And even though we philosophize the reason, the truth is we do have a problem!

Nadhani nimeshaandika sana, na nitaendeleza mjadala huu baadaye kidogo na kutoa maoni yangu as to what shoud be done. Not from a technical point of view as I will not pretend to understand anything about energy policies and engineering, but in a more broader sense, to improve they way we handle such problems (it is not a crisis any more because it is persistant!) like the energy shortage.

 

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GE walikuwa moja ya sponsors wa LEON SULLIVAN SUMMIT ya Arusha. Kwa kushirikiana na USAID walifanya presentations na lobbying makini kuliko washiriki wote waliokuwepo hapo. Mimi nilishtuka sana kuwaona hapo na haswa baada ya kusikia jinsi wanavyopigia mchepuo suala la REGIONAL ENERGY POOL STRATEGIES kama ilivyo huko west africa. Kwangu mimi hii ilikuwa ni strategy ya kuingia katika mpambano wa uhodhi wa TANZANIA energy potentials kati ya Uncle SAM na makamarade wetu CHINA. Hii ikitilia maanani kuwa serikali ya Marekani ilifikia kutishia kusimamisha utekelezaji wa msaada wa MCC kama serikali/bunge hawajapitisha sheria mpya ya umeme ambayo ingeruhusu sekta binafsi kushindana sawa na TANESCO katika maeneo yote yaani utengenezaji, usambazaji na igawaji kitu ambacho kilikuwa kinapingwa na wengi wa wabunge wetu.

omarilyas

Mkuu, mi naungana mkono kabisa wabnafsishe tu hii sekta, sis tumeshinwda kujiendesha. umewahi kusikia eti TBL inasema hawana chupa za kutosha hivyo kuna uhaba wa bia nchini? Au kwamba wanafanya system upgrade hivyo hawatauza soda kwa siku 10? Cha muhimu mchakato huu wa ubinafsishaji ufanyike kwa uwazi na kusimamiwa na wataalam. Lakini pia ifanyike kama kwa TBL kwamba asilimia kubwa tuuziwe wananchi maana sisi ndo wadau wenyewe, then tutaenda katika hizo general meetings na kuwawashia moto menejmenti!
Lakini shirika la Umma... no thank yee! No more! Ni ukiritimba, inefficiency na ufisadi!