Wako wapi Mashujaa wa Uhuru wa Tanganyika?



Kila siku unaambiwa uweke Historia ya Tanganyika ambayo wewe unaijuwa...matokeo yake unajificha chini ya kibao cha Mbuzi kisha unatokeza kichwa tu na kukosoa na kukashifu za wenzio...
 
Nafikiri haijarishi mababuzetu waliipigania uhuru wa nchi hii walikuwa ni wa dini gani au kabila fulani . Kwa maono yako walifanya hivyo kwasababu tu walikuwa waisilamu? I don't think so. Your argument holds no substance. Nivizuri tuwakumbuke na kuwaenzi ipasavyo.
 
Ukisoma hiyo habari hakuna kitu kipya hata kimoja. Niwatanabiashe wakubwa kuwa hizi ni mbinu za kukwepa hoja. Ule uzi wa Islam's role../ unaoendelea Mohamed Said anakabliwa na mambo ya kujibu. Hii ni ku divert attention tu.

1. Imedhihirika kuwa kuna wazee walifanya Matambiko. Kwa mujibu wa dini hilo ni kosa 'shirk'. Kwa mujibu wa Mohamed Said hawa ni sehemu ya wazee walionyima fursa na kusahaulika. Kwa mujibu wa wadau kwanini Mohamed anachagua muda wa makundi? Ametakiwa aeleze wapi makala za wapigania uhuru waliofanya matambiko?
Je si sehemu ya wapigania uhuru?

2. Imebainika kuwa Nyerere alipewa pesa, mboga na makapu ya misaada ya chakula. Kwa mujibu wa wadau, Mohamed ameombwa aeleze nani aalikuwa anamnunulia Nyerere sigareti?

3. Kuna paper mbili za karibuni zinaeleza kuhusu K.Sykes. Moja inasema yeye ni mwanzilishi wa AA, nyingine inasema ni katibu mwanzilishi wa AA. Wadau wanahoji mbona kuna flip flops kila paper inapotoka? Na inakuwaje chama kimeanza na katibu tu! wapi rais wa chama?

4. Kasema waislam walipigania uhuru. Wadau wanauliza ushahidi wa wazee hao kuhusu kauli hiyo upo wapi?
Kuna ushahidi kuwa walipigania uhuru kumkomboa mwafrika.

5. Kasema wazee hawaenziwi. Wadau wakauliza medali zinatoka Mohamed anataka waenziwe kwa kitu gani.

6. Kasema role ya Mshume ni kubwa kuliko ya Kyaruzi Vedastus, wadau wanauliza lini mshume aliongoza chama hata kwa dakika 10 kiasi cha kuwa na CV ya kisiasa kumzidi Dr Kyaruzi?

Wadau wanasubiri majibu, ghafla nyuzi kama ile ikiwa na rangi ya chanikiwiti badala ya hudhurungi inaibuka tena.

 

Ilitakiwa wewe uje na historia yako unayo ijua ili tulinganishe kati ya wewe moh'd said ni ipi historia ya kweli,punguza kucopy na kupaste.
 
Ungedai UISLAM kupuuzwa ingekua uhuru uliopiganiwa ungekuwa dhidi ya shetani ili tuipate pepo ningekuelewa, lakini uhuru huu wa tanganyika mtu ajisifie au asifiwe kwa uislam au ukristo wake!!!!! dini ina nini na uhuru wa nyama!!!!!
Hii kiu ya SIFA inatutia ujuha sasa.
 
Tunashukuru sana mzee mohamed said kwa kututoa ukungu, mungu awarehemu wazee wetu mashujaa waliotangulia mbele ya haki
 
Nani anajua mchango wa mzee Lameck Makalanga Bogohe, moja ya watu waliopendekeza jina la TANU, ingawa walikuja kutofautiana na mwalimu baadaye, na kuwekwa kizuizini?

 

Nakubaliana na wewe huyu jamaa unfortunately hata katika familia yake kuna wakristo lakini he is always biased against wakristo pengine kwasasbabu za kifamilia yake!!! Anapozungumzia wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika kwa mfano kutoka mkoa wa Dododma anamzungumzia sana Ali Ponda lakini hazungumzii mchango wa watu kama Edward Mwangosi!!! Waulize wazee wa Dodoma kama wakina Job Lusinde wakueleze mchango wa huyu mzee katika harakati za kugombea uhuru.
 

Kuhudhulia mazishi sio ishara ya kugushwa sana na msiba husika; watu wengi wanahudhulia mazishi kwa kutaka publicity na unafiki!!! Nyerere alionesha mapenzi kwa rafiki zake wakati wa uhai wao na sio baada ya kufa; na ndio maana hawa watoto wa Mwapachu , Sykes na wakina Bomani aliwapa vyeo kwa sababu ya michango ya wazazi wao ingawa wengine wao leo wanadhani wamefika hapo walipo kwa juhudi zao pekee!!!
 
Nafikiri mdingi kashindwa kufanya analysis na kujua kama hizi porojo zake jamii inazisikiliza au lah...

Ila always kelele za chura huwa hazimzuii ng'ombe kunywa maji....

Hizi si porojo ni historia ya kweli yaliyo jiri na wasomaji wapo wengi wewe ukiwa mmojawapo, sioni tatizo lolote ,au una mengine ya kuhoji zaidi ya hili?
 
Asante ndugu Mohd Said kwa kweli ni burudani kujua taifa letu la Tanganyika lilitoka wapi.

Ni muda muafaka kuifufua Tanganyika yetu.
 





Yaani mpaka kichefuu chefu!
Watu wa aina kama hii ya Mohamed Said hawana tofauti na Al-Shabab.Kila kitu ni dini na ni vigumu kwao kuelewa na hawatapata kuwa na uelewa mpaka kiama chake maana kuna chuki ndani yake!

Mohamed said hao unaowaita wapigania uhuru wa Tanganyika (Waisilamu) labda usema walikuwa wanataka uhuru wa Bandari Salama -Dar Es Salaamu maana sijapata kusikia pakizungumzwa watu hao kuizunguaka Tanganyika katika harakati ya kudai Uhuru zaidi ya porojo za hapa Bandari Salama.

Lakini mbaya zaidi umewasahau Wazee wa Tanganyika kwa ujumla wao walistahili hicho unachozungumzia yaani kutambuliwa kila moja kwa nafasi yake toka vita ya Maji Maji na si hii porojo za watu 12 na tena bila haya unawaita waisilamu.

Tafuta watu wa aina au wenye Imani ya Al-shabab labda watakuelewa!(Shetani kwa kwenda Mbele)



 

Huyu hapo chini ni mimi nikikifanyia uchambuzi kitabu cha John Iliffe nikijiuliza mbona katika
siasa siwaoni Wakristo?

Watu hawa waliishi katika Tanganyika ya mwanzo wa karne ya ishirini.

Ulikuwa ndiyo mzao wa akina Kleist Sykes, Ali Juma Ponda, Hassan Taufik Suleiman na wengineo...
Vipi wewe haihangaishi ubongo wako?
Au uanaona ni sawa tu?


Kitabu hiki kina habari za maisha ya Watanganyika 12 ambao waliishi miaka ya mwanzo ya karne ya ishirini wakati wa utawala wa Wajerumani hadi kufika kwa Waingereza. Katika kitabu hiki kitu kimoja kinachojitokeza dhahiri ni kuwa wazalendo wote walioshiriki katika kutafuta Uhuru wa Tanganyika walikuwa Waislam. (Kleist Sykes, Ali Ponda na Hassan Suleiman) wao maisha yao yalijikita katika siasa za ukombozi wa Tanganyika kutoka ukoloni wa Waingereza wakati wenziwao Wakristo Canon Kolumba Msigala, Pastor Yohane Nyagava na Bishop Jeremiah Kissula) historia ya maisha yao ilikuwa katika nyanja za utumishi wa kanisa.
 

Bulesi,
Nakuwekea hapa habari za Edward Mwangosi na Job Lusinde
kama nilivyoandika katika kitabu changu :

The Founding of TANU in Central Province 1955:
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[TD]''...Tabora began to participate in active politics in 1945 when the African Association was introduced to the township from Dodoma through the efforts of Edward Mwangosi.

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Mwangosi's stand was that Makererians were very important to the party as they would provide the required leadership.
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[TD]A total of about forty people attended the meeting including the Makererians, among them Job Lusinde, later to become minister, and Amon Nsekela, later to hold important posts in the government including Tanzania's High Commission to Britain.

Hassan Suleiman and Ali Ponda did not turn up for the meeting.

While they were assembling for the meeting, the officer-in-charge of the Community Center told them that he had received orders from the District Commissioner that the meeting should be cancelled and people dispersed immediately.

Alexander Kanyamara who was a wealthy African in Dodoma and a personal friend of John Rupia, now TANU Vice-President, called for the postponement of the meeting because of the absence of Hassan Suleiman and Ali Ponda-the TAA top leadership in Dodoma.

Due to this reason and the intimidating order from the DC, the meeting was cancelled without fixing a date for another meeting.
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[TD]The following morning Taratibu was arrested by the police and taken to the DC's office, the present Prime Minister's office.

Hassan Suleiman was there amicably chatting with the DC, Mr. Smith.

The DC started to interrogate Taratibu by asking him if he spoke English.

Taratibu replied that in the negative.

Speaking in English, Hassan Suleiman told the DC that he was the TANU secretary in Dodoma.

The DC Mr Smith accused Taratibu of forming an illegal organisation and for calling an unauthorized meeting at the Community Center the previous day which was likely to disrupt peace.

Without fear Taratibu replied that he had the mandate to call for a meeting because he was a member of a legally registered political party.

Taratibu fished out his black and green TANU card from his pocket and showed it to the DC. Mr. Smith asked Hassan Suleiman whether he too possessed a TANU card.

Hassan Suleiman had none.

Hassan Suleiman and the DC conversed in English for some time after which he asked both of them to write statements.

After writing his statement Taratibu was allowed to go home.

It is believed that at that time the only TANU members in Dodoma was Taratibu and Alexander Kanyamara who had bought his card in Dar es Salaam.
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[TD]When the Makerere graduates, who Mwangosi had put much faith in organizing the party, learned about Taratibu's ordeal with the DC Mr Smith, they were scared.

They decided to lie low and continue with their academic pursuits at the Kikuyu Secondary School.

Haruna Taratibu and Omari Suleiman now decided to change tactics; they called for a secret meeting at night in the house of Swedi bin Athman.[1]

The meeting decided that Taratibu should go to TANU headquarters in Dar es Salaam and talk to Julius Nyerere himself on the problems facing TANU in Dodoma.

Mahdi Mwinchumu who was TANU member in Dar es Salaam volunteered to accompany Taratibu to the party headquarters since he was known by the leadership there.

Said Musa, another member of the secret committee, also volunteered to accompany Taratibu and Mwinchumu to Dar es Salaam.

On departure day, Job Lusinde went to see the secret delegation off at the railway station.

Lusinde told the delegation that Makererians were in support of all the decisions taken by the secret committee.[/TD]
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Bwana Bulesi,
Ikiwa hujatosheka na habari hizi nifahamishe.

[1] Another version of the founding of TANU in Dodoma is that a meetimg of other patriots was called
in which Seif Waziri Kasembo attended in the house of Salim Omari, who was also present, together
with Fulka Mwinchumu Kinyozi, Swedi Athmani Kagulu, Bakari Omari, Fundi Issa, Mzee Magwila, Manywele
Bushiri, Mzee Ibrahim Sururu Mahusi Selemani, Omari Selemani, Nassoro Mussa, Athmani Nyange and others.
It seems there was rivalry between the two groups because in a paper made available to the author by Seif
Waziri Kasembo it is stated that Haruna Taratibu assumed leadership in Party affairs without the consent of
other patriots. Interesting is the fact that some of the names mentioned by Kasembo appear in both Taratibu
and Suleiman's narration. But the two groups, that of Taratibu and that of Kasembo, came to accommodate
each other because eventually, after office bearers had been elected, Kasembo provided his house as the first
TANU office in Dodoma. Kasembo's father, Waziri Kasembo, was once president of the African Association in
Dodoma.
 

Nguruvi,
Hivi haijakupitikia kuwa mimi naburudika hapa JF?

Hebu panga vyema maswali nikujibu.

Unachanganya mambo mengi na ukifanya hivyo mnakasha
unakorogeka.
 
Nyerere ataendaje kwenye msiba wa soko4 wakati yeye ndio alimnaniliu!

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Nawasikitikia sana vijana wanaoendelea kudanganywa na huyu kiumbe aitwae Mohamed Said,

Kwawale wasiojua historia nawaomba msiwe wavivu na kuishia kuzisoma hizi ngano tu,

Tumieni mda wenu vizuri kusaka maandishi mengine ya kujenga uelewa wenu katika historia ya nchini yetu,

Ni ajabu uongo uleule kuendelezwa kwa mlango wa nyuma huku vijana wakiendelea kushangilia bila kujua madhara yake,
 
Kila siku unaambiwa uweke Historia ya Tanganyika ambayo wewe unaijuwa...matokeo yake unajificha chini ya kibao cha Mbuzi kisha unatokeza kichwa tu na kukosoa na kukashifu za wenzio...
Ni haki ya msomi yeyote kukosoa kazi ya mtu mwingine bila kujali kama yeye ameandika kazi yoyote au la!
 
Ilitakiwa wewe uje na historia yako unayo ijua ili tulinganishe kati ya wewe moh'd said ni ipi historia ya kweli,punguza kucopy na kupaste.
Kama hamzijui kanuni za kisomi kwanini mnajichomeka? Kwanini msikae pembeni mkawa watazamaji tu! Msiwe mnajitahidi kumtetea mzee wenu kwa hoja dhaifu kama hizi kwani mnazidi kumzamisha kwenye matope.
 
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