Eric Cartman
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- May 21, 2009
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Mfano wangu nimeuangalia, na sidhani kama una kosa. Wewe umetoa jibu kwa kusema kuwa choice will depend on the individual reasoning. Hizo individual reasonings umesema ni kama duka la ndugu, rafiki, etc. Sasa tukubalieni moja, huwezi kuanzisha biashara kwa kutegemea ndugu as wanunuzi. Unajenga biashara kutokana na wateja. Tuondoe price competition maana umesema imekuwa set na govt. Kuna vitu vingine vingi ambavyo watu wana-compete on kwa kusudi la kupata wateja. Kwa mfano, better looking environment/mandhari (eg: show rooms), better service (kupokelewa ukiingia dukani, etc), kuweka fani dukani, kuweka wauza sura, nk. My point, popote pale panapokuwa na biashara, lazima kuwe na competition. It's just there, and there is no way around it. Kama unaona ipo, i'm open to hearing them.
Set prices zinaleta kudorora kwa service na innovation. R & D is one of the most expensive sectors katika biashara, na cost yake inakuwa passed to consumers. Kwa nini basi consumer a-accept kulipa zaidi? Ni kwa sababu ya wanapata a superior product.
As i said earlier, based on the theory of evolution. Kama wewe hukubaliani na hiyo theory, hayo ni yako. It's there in existance, you only have to open your eyes to see it. Ukienda kwenye mbuga za wanyama ipo. Ukija kwenye everyday life ipo. It exists in school, it exist between companies, it exists in everything we do, including kupata mchumba, nk. We are built to compete. Sasa watu ambao wanadhani Darwin aliandika upuuzi na kusifiwa bure, hilo ni juu yao.
Ulisema earlier kuwa religious leaders would have something to say about that. Hapa hatuongelei mwanadamu ametoka wapi, tunaongelea aspect ya competition, na survival, which is a major part of that theory.
Katika mfano wako, umetoa facts zinazoangalia upande mmoja. Kwanza umesema wa pili kufungua ni kwa sababu aliona supply haitoshi. Ni yupi alifungua wakati demand na supply zipo equal? Aliyefungua baada ya hapo, ndio aliyeleta competition na sio circumstances. Maana hilo duka halijatokea tu, bali kuna mtu aliyekaa na kufikiri kuwa ataweza kwenda ku-compete na hao wengine. I would think mfano wako sio mzuri. I get your point, lakini mfano wako hauipeleki point golini.
Mkuu China na Russia are NK's closest allies, because they share common features in the international community:
1. They are all single-party states
2. They had alligned themselves together in the Korean war in the 50s,
3. They had practiced socialism together in the past. 2 failed, one is acting in a defiant manner.
4. They boarder each other, so in reality, China and Russia will be affected by NK's actions.
wewe umechagua fact moja ya u-socialism, na kuiweka mezani. Typical lawyering skill...hehehe!
I dont regard capitalism as an extreme view, it simply reflects human nature. Hizo governments zinazotoa handouts while preaching capitalism are acting/performing their responsibility. If you expect a government not to act in time of need, when do you propose it should act? There were mistakes made, the government moves in to correct them. It may correct them further by implementing laws to govern such situations. Hiyo ndio kazi ya serikali katika system.
Mh., personally i do not know what we're debating anymore but it seems your understanding of Ujamaa was bound to fail and one major concerns of yours was, we are naturally competitive, individuals.
i made my case being, it encourtered lots of resistance from the west as it did not suit their way of thinking. i'm not sure we agreed or not but it seems ur arguments have moved to our competitive nature rather than the main topic we started with. therefore im assuming i have to prove to u that we are not competitive naturally au labda im losing the plot of this debate.
OK your persistent on that theory of evolution but you have to remember it has no 100% evidence, especially the bit where it explains how life started so its pure speculation that is a fact. and that is why i said religious figures would have something to say about that. so try live 5% out on issue like this, however that is totaly entirely up to you.
about our competitive nature if your arguments are based on this theory then you haven't explored much on our history as humans, especially the history of our civilization. if you had then you'd have understood that its society that shapes us and we do not shape it.
let me give you a bit of history of our civilization its over 10,000yrs to-date, again partly speculations but based on carbon dated evidence of tools and early houses, scientist had to come to that conclusion. prior to that man lived as foragers(hunters and gathers). in late 1890 to mid 1950 anthropologist spend lots of time studying surviving bands living like this one of those were the Ju'hoansi of Kalahari in Namibia this area was protected from the invasion of mass modern thinking humans, so that to understand how these people survived in their natural habitant well guess, what they were sharers and highly against competition and individualism because the nature of survival depended much on a band things like hunting games and protection of women and children against wild animals. im giving you a short version if you want more its for u to do the research.
guess what other anthropologist studying other remaining foraigang bands such as Inuit in Alaska, Aborigine in Australia, Mbuti in Congo, etc, etc all different researchers came up with similar results they were shareres due to the natural of survival. your looking at the current world trapped under capitalism of course you'd see competition.
ps: i advice you do your research properly before harshly jumping to conclusions.i had to answer as a gesture of respect but now i'll be just an observer of JF goodkluck.
another thing i never said capitalism was an extremist view my point was ur a firm believer of the ideology that ur un willing to scrutinize its weakness, which of course is wrong nothing is perfect again evidence on the current market crush and the bailouts of the sytem be open minded regardless of the view you choose goodluck