The ICC just like the IMF and World Bank will Only Bring Trouble

[Akwaba]

External justice just as external economic policies are doomed to fail. The policies advocated by those who love the ICC follow a similar thought pattern to the policies advocated by World Bank and IMF neo-liberalists. I fear the outcome will be the same a lot of good intentions that produce suffering. In the not so distant past most African countries had a very poor capacity at managing their economies. They had insufficient well trained economists. The financial controllers in most finance departments were inept or corrupt. The financial control mechanisms were lacking or ignored. Some of these issues are still present even today. However, confronted with this perceived incapacity of African countries to manage their own economic affairs the international community came to the rescue through the IMF and World Bank. These institutions prescribed various form of what we call neo-liberal economic policies. The core of the principle was massive deregulation and laissez faire economics. The market will handle everything. Today after much suffering, unnecessary death due to poverty the world in general and Africa in particular has come to understand that these policies do not work in Africa. The IMF and World Bank failed so badly for many reasons however the most salient is that they are external actors. Even though, they had many Phd's and years of economic experience, they were unable to understand the workings of the current African economic predicament. Their understanding was purely academic and biased with prejudice. It is for this same reason that the economic policies of Asia and their economic outcome are called the Asian Miracle. The name shows the western economists total lack of comprehension of the simple economic mechanisms that brought about this transformation. It did not fit their school of thought.


However, these external economists were not only fooled by their belief in their theories there was something a bit more sinister afoot. There was the belief that the African was unable to manage his/her economic affairs. There was a perception that African would forever be incompetent at managing anything and advocating correct policies and therefore an external organization needed to come in as the savior. In this case the saviors were the IMF and World Bank. The western countries acting through these organization dictated to sovereign countries how they should manage their affairs. As I make this argument some will dismiss economics as not as important as human rights. I say economics are the foundation of human rights. Go and speak about human rights to a bunch of starving people on an island while they are engaged in survival through cannibalization. As such the mismanagement of African economies by the African governments was a great crime. However, the greater crime was the forcibly imposed western economic mismanagement.


The neo-liberal policies persisted for so long precisely because they were imposed by external actors. As such they broke a cardinal rule of democratic representation. The managers of the system were in no way accountable to the people being managed. In essence it was another form of dictatorship. In the case of the ICC it would be dictatorship through treaty. In the case of the IMF it was dictatorship through financial monopoly. In a normal system they would have been voted out. In most respected democracies all judges are either elected or appointed by elected officials. All bureaucrats are supervised by elected officials. In essence the will of the people is paramount. This system of checks and balance is what ensures that perverse outcomes do not persist. However in the case of the IMF the democratic representation of the African countries was practicality non-existant. The representation was in no was commensurate with the population of these countries. It is a system similar to the initial United States democratic dispensation where only land owners were allowed to vote. Today we all understand that to be unfair and unacceptable however in the international stage these forms of dictatorship persist and we endure the negative outcomes.


No only did the IMF and World bank lack proper representation they were also distant actors. They have country representatives in addition to teams that visit for a mere 2 – 4 weeks expecting to gain the insights required to manage countries. The country representatives serve as ambassadors while the expert teams in the West create policy. The distance produced a certain separation from reality, with theory taking the place of reality. The separation is what made some rather smart people advocate some rather stupid things. A local actor could easily see that these developing countries lacked capacity. In essence liberalizing the economies would not really bring innovation and competition and dynamism because their were no local actors to innovate. There was no local capital to compete. The importance of many of these factors is made obvious by how quickly the global economy collapsed when liquidity was slightly reduced. In many African countries liquidity is practically non-existant. There was talk of investors magically coming in and addressing all the problems in liberalized economy. However, investors are some of the most easily scared people in the World. They love investing in sure things. This is why the United States and many western countries support nascent technologies with government subsidized loans and or grants. Solar power, fuel cells, high speed trains, and even the highly profitable oil sectors and semiconductor sector have benefited from some form of government largesse.


In the case of the ICC we once again have external actors, with limited democratic representation trying to impose a remedy on Africa filled with good intentions. These external actors are basing their action on theory. The theories are in essence European and in some cases conflict with accepted United States democratic principles. For examples in the United States, you cannot be prosecuted under any circumstances according the to constitution for expressing your opinion in free speech. However, in Germany certain forms of speech are an offense. In essence the ICC is even trying to impose a certain format of democracy that has not even gained universal acceptance among respected democracies.


The ICC is built on the premise that if it does not fill the void in the African justice system there will never be Justice. The belief is that Africans are incapable of creating a functioning justice system where crimes are punished without favor and therefore and external savior is needed. The thinking is identical to the manner in which the IMF and World Bank historically behaved.


Today it is understood that African are able to manage their economies, some poorly and some quite successfully. However, this took a lot of capacity building, time and democratic dividends. At some point in time the world needs to see these external actors for what they are. They are the children of the colonialist mindset. They deprive counties of the chance to grow into vibrant democracies. The constant external interference deprives these countries of the necessary growing pains which all countries go through.


In the end Europe today has achieved its democratic credentials not by the force of external actors but through the struggles of millions of Europeans fighting for Love, Peace, and Prosperity and rejecting tyranny.

 

[Mpeni sifa Yesu]

suprisingly, only presidents/leaders turn against the ICC, ordinary African citizens still want it.

 

[Zipapa zipapa]

suprisingly, only presidents/leaders turn against the ICC, ordinary African citizens still want it.

Mkuu una ushahidi hapo kwenye red? Hii korti inakimbilia Africa tu kwanini wasishtakiwe na watu ama viongozi walioharibu kutoka dunia iliyoendelea? Kunya anye kuku akinya bata kaharisha kweli?

 

[Mpeni sifa Yesu]

Mkuu una ushahidi hapo kwenye red? Hii korti inakimbilia Africa tu kwanini wasishtakiwe na watu ama viongozi walioharibu kutoka dunia iliyoendelea? Kunya anye kuku akinya bata kaharisha kweli?

niambie ni viongozi wepi wa mataifa mengine hawajashughulikiwa, walifanya makosa lini na yepi nami nitakwambia kwanini hawajashughulikiwa.

kuhusu vile wengine wanasema ati hata marekani na israel hawajasaini mkataba wa roma, african leaders wanashindwa kuelewa kuwa, hata kama mtu hajasaini mkataba, au hata akijitoa kama kenya etc, bado tu anaweza kushitakiwa ICC, hakuna pa kukimbilia hata ukijitoa, hivyo ni kama kutwanga maji kwenye kinu.

kitu kingine ni kwamba, karibia kesi zote za waafrica zilizoko the hague zimepelekwa na waafrica wenyewe, achana na hiyo ya kenya. na hakuna hata mmoja aliyepelekwa kule kwa kuonewa, wote wamepelekwa kule hata ordinary citizen anajua walichokifanya. nakusubiri ili nikujibu.

 

[Akwaba]

The flaw with the ICC has less to do with allowing the presidents to continue serving in Office and more to do with ensuring the countries grow. Countries are very similar to people in some ways. When denied opportunities to make their own decisions and determine their path they become like children and fail to grow. In essense the ICC as its currently functioning is stunting the growth of African democracies.

Remember the case of the famous Chilean general Augusto Pinochet. I mean he committed atrocities. He was left alone for many years after he lost power however at some time the Chileans decided he must be brought to justice. When countries are able to bring to admisnister justice to their leaders they have reached a major milestone in deomcracy.

Here in the interest of the Savior mentality of the West We are being denied this chance to grow into true democracies. Instead we may become puppet democracies always waiting for the ICC to deliver us justice. We will no longer be able to protests for change in our own countries, but will be forced to go beg at various Western embassies for the saviour to help us.

In essence we will remain colonized.

The ICC may only become relevant if we become a global government with global representation. We would then need to create a global culture and set of norms which will be applicable to all. The judges would then need to be appointed and approved by the UN general assembly. This is how any decent democracy works.

 

[Mpeni sifa Yesu]

Bush na Tony Brair na Nicholus Sarkozy na David Cameron
Wameendesha Mauji ya Raia kule Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya na Bado Drone zao zimekua zinaua watu kila Mara!
Achilia mbali Bush kua nyuma ya vurugu zilizotokea Kenya mwaka2007.
Wafaransa wamekua nyuma ya mapinduzi mengi katika visiwa vya Comoro na Madagascar na Pia Us imekua nyuma ya Yale yaliyotokea Rwanda na ata DRC.
Wazungu wamekua nyuma ya mizozo na matukio yote yanayokea Dunia.
Ata katika Ile vita Kati ya Iraq na Iran, Us ilikua nyuma ya Iraq na ata zile silaha za sumu wao wa Us ndio waliompa Saadam.
Wasiangalie tu namna gani viongozi wanavyo tawala. Tunataka mataifa ya wazungu yasiwe maficho ya mabilioni ya pesa yanayoibiwa Africa na kifichwa huko kwao.
Kama haki Iwe kwa Kila kitu! Pesa zetu wanazitaka Na Hawa viongozi wetu hawapendi?

hayo yote uliyoongea ni vizuri kama ukisaidia kupata ushahidi, wewe unaonekana ni shahidi mzuri katika hayo. however, katika yote uliyoongea, kila hoja unayotoa uwe na uhakika ushahidi upo na unaoendena na makosa husika. sitetei marekani, ufaransa etc, nasema tu kuwa kama unayoongea ni kweli na unao ushahidi, basi wewe ni mtu muhimu katka kukusanya ushahidi, isijekuwa ni ulisikia toka magazetini na kwenye mitandao ya kijamii basi wewe uka establish fact hizo.

sikujua kama hata Libya wanaotakiwa kulaumiwa ni marekani, ungeniambia syria ningekuelewa kwa vile wanavyowapa waasi silaha. ila kwa libya gadafi aliyekuwa anapiga raia kwa ndege kama raia wakijihami kwa silaha na kumzidi labda kwasababu walipigwa sapoti na wamagaribi hio kwa international humanitarian law (the law of warfare) is justifiable.

pia, katika yote uliyoongea kuanzia vita ya iraq na iran, affghanistan etc, unatakiwa kuelewa kuwa ICC inashughulikia makosa yaliyotokea kuanzia July 2002 tu na si kabla ya hapo. iraq na iran vilitendeka lini, vita ya afganistan ilianza lini, marekani unasema ilisaidia na kusababisha vita vya rwanda hivyo vilikuwa lini, drone hizo unazosema zinaua watu je ni halaiki na holela au hao casualties wanakuwa ni collateral damage za kawaida za kwenye vita? kati ya makosa yale matatu ya icc unafikiri hayo uliyosema yangedondokea kwenye makosa yepi na yenye element zipi za crimes?

 

[crabat]

Story ndefu lakini kwa africa ni muhimu .unataka wauwe watu wao bila ya kuulizwa?
Leo kama sio tishio la ICC kenya wangefanya tena vurugu na mauaji
Leo nchii hizi nyingi zinaogopa kuvunja haki za watu wao wakihofia kushtakiwa
Imesaidia sana liberia ivory coast siera leone cosovo na sasa kenya
Bashir wa sudan amewacha au kuounguza mauaji darfur baada ya kuona hatari ya kushtakiwa ni real
Nchi hizi haziaminiki na ndo peker ambazo zinaweza kuwa fyeka raia wao ulaya au marekani hawawezi kuwa ua hovyo raia wao
Wanaweza kuwa wauaji kwa nchi nyengine na hiyo ni uhalifu wa kivita

 

[Ntuzu]

hayo yote uliyoongea ni vizuri kama ukisaidia kupata ushahidi, wewe unaonekana ni shahidi mzuri katika hayo. however, katika yote uliyoongea, kila hoja unayotoa uwe na uhakika ushahidi upo na unaoendena na makosa husika. sitetei marekani, ufaransa etc, nasema tu kuwa kama unayoongea ni kweli na unao ushahidi, basi wewe ni mtu muhimu katka kukusanya ushahidi, isijekuwa ni ulisikia toka magazetini na kwenye mitandao ya kijamii basi wewe uka establish fact hizo.

sikujua kama hata Libya wanaotakiwa kulaumiwa ni marekani, ungeniambia syria ningekuelewa kwa vile wanavyowapa waasi silaha. ila kwa libya gadafi aliyekuwa anapiga raia kwa ndege kama raia wakijihami kwa silaha na kumzidi labda kwasababu walipigwa sapoti na wamagaribi hio kwa international humanitarian law (the law of warfare) is justifiable.

pia, katika yote uliyoongea kuanzia vita ya iraq na iran, affghanistan etc, unatakiwa kuelewa kuwa ICC inashughulikia makosa yaliyotokea kuanzia July 2002 tu na si kabla ya hapo. iraq na iran vilitendeka lini, vita ya afganistan ilianza lini, marekani unasema ilisaidia na kusababisha vita vya rwanda hivyo vilikuwa lini, drone hizo unazosema zinaua watu je ni halaiki na holela au hao casualties wanakuwa ni collateral damage za kawaida za kwenye vita? kati ya makosa yale matatu ya icc unafikiri hayo uliyosema yangedondokea kwenye makosa yepi na yenye element zipi za crimes?

Ningependa unipe maelezo Zaidi juu ya Yale yaliyotokea Libya na kwanini mataifa ya Maghalibi yasilaumiwe kwa Hilo!
Alafu Vipi Kuhusu hayo mataifa kugeuka kua maficho ya mapesa yanayoibiwa Africa? Au pesa zenyewe hazina haki ila ni viongozi tu

 

[Mpeni sifa Yesu]

Ningependa unipe maelezo Zaidi juu ya Yale yaliyotokea Libya na kwanini mataifa ya Maghalibi yasilaumiwe kwa Hilo!
Alafu Vipi Kuhusu hayo mataifa kugeuka kua maficho ya mapesa yanayoibiwa Africa? Au pesa zenyewe hazina haki ila ni viongozi tu

ndugu, yale yaliyotokea libya ni kwamba, libya yalitokea mapinduzi kama yale tu yaliyotokea tunisia, aljeria na misri etc, gadafi mwanzoni alijua utani, akasambaza polisi kuzuia fujo kawaida tu, badaye akaona hadi wanazo silaha akaingia na vifaru, ndege za kivita akaanza kurusha na mabom kwa ndege, sote tulishuhudia hili. kwa hali ya kawaida, rais hawezi kuamrisha ndege za kivita kushambulia maeneo wanayoishi raia wake yeye mwenyewe ambao hawana hata ndege ya kivita moja ili walau wangeenda nguvu sawa. mataifa ya magaribi yalivyoona gadafi anatumia ndege, na mengine kama tulivyokuwa tunashuhudia kwenye luninga kila siku, yalitoa sapoti kwa waasi kwa kushambulia vikosi vya gadafi, walishambulia sio raia bali vikosi vya jeshi la gadafi na kulidhoofisha kabisa. pia waligawa silaha za kawaida kwa waasi. gadafi alizidiwa akakamatwa mzima hajafa, ipo hadi leo youtube unaweza kuangalia, lakini baada ya kukamatwa badala ya kupelekwa mahakamani kama kweli wanaona ana kosa wao walimuua coldblooded.

unatakiwa kujua yafuatayo:

1. mashambulizi ya wamagaribi kule libya yalikuwa justifiable katika mazingira ya kivita kwasababu walitaget maeneo ya wanajeshi tu sio kila eneo. hawakushambulia raia.

2. gadafi alipokamatwa, alikamatwa akiwa amevaa uniform za kijeshi na alikamatwa katika mazingira ya mapigano. pia inaonesha alisalenda baada ya kujeruhiwa, angekuwa hakusalenda angejipiga risasi yeye mwenyewe kwasababu alitembea na silaha za kila aina, kitendo chake cha kukamatwa na kuanza hata kujibizana na kujadiliana na waasi akiwalaumu kwamba kwanini wanamfanyia hivyo ni dhahidi alisalenda. katika sheria za kivita, mtu anayesalenda hatakiwi kuuawa kabisa, anakuwa mataka wa kivita. kuua mateka wa kivita unaenda kinyume na mikataba ya Geneva ya mwaka 1949 inayokataza pamoja na mambo mengine kuua mateka wa kivita. pia ICC STATUTE inakazaka kabisa kuua mateka, ukiua mateka unashitakiwa kwa makosa ya kivita /war crimes ambalo ni kosa mojawapo kati ya yale manne yaliyomo icc statute.

HII MAANA YAKE NINI? viongozi wa vikosi vilivyomkamata gadafi walitakiwa kuadibishwa icc na kushitakiwa kwa kuwa katika hali ya command responsibility kwa yule kijana aliyempiga risasi gadafi wakati amekamatwa. wanatakiwa kushitakiwa na yule kijana pia. kwanini? kwasababu hawakumuadibisha kisheria. baada ya tukio lile, viongozi wa waasi walitakiwa kumpa discipline yule kijana. kutofanya hivyo na kwa press conference walipomsifia yule kijana inamaana walimuamurisha aue au walikubaliana naye. hivyo wao pamoja na yule kijana walikuwa wanatakiwa wakamatwe wapelekwe icc. bahati mbaya, yule kijana alishauawa na yeye, ila wale viongozi wa waasi bado wapo na icc haijafanya chochote. HAPO NA MIMI NINAILAUMU ICC kwanini haijawaadibisha viongozi wa waasi?

3. NANI WA KULAUMIWA LIBYA? katika shambulizi na vita yote, kisheria, hakuna article hata moja ambayo wamagaribi walivunja ili kuwafanya wakamatwe kupelekwa icc. ila walibya wenyewe walivunja. ni waasi wa libya ndio walitakiwa kukamatwa kushitakiwa icc. hivyohivyo na syria, waasi pia wanastahili kukamatwa na kupelekwa icc, kwasababu tumeona wamerusha makombora yao mara nyingi tu na kudondokea kwa raia wakati mwingine ikisemekana wanafanya hivyo ili ijulikane ni majeshi ya serikali ndio yamefanya. pia assad na viongozi wenzake wanastahili kabisa kupelekwa icc.

KWA MAANA HIYO, kwa yale yaliyotokea libya, wamagaribi hawashitakiki icc. pia, icc haihusiani na makosa ya rusha/wizi wa pesa kama ulivyoeleza hapo kuwa mapesa yanafichwa huko ulaya, hilo sio kosa ndani ya icc statute. just google icc statute pdf you will get the statute, soma, mle ndani kuna makosa matatu tu ambayo sasaivi yanashitakika, matatu tu. mauaji ya kimbari, mauaji ya halaiki na makosa ya kivita. kosa la uvamizi halijaanza kufanya kazi hadi mwaka 2017. hivyo huwezi kusema NATO wlaivyovamia libya au popote pale washitakiwe kwa uvamizi nchi nyingine, kosa hilo halijaanza kufanya kazi.