Tanzania would rather be in Southern Africa, it seems

[Mungi]

As if expelling Banyarwanda was not enough, Tanzania has been in focus the last few months for some decidedly anti-integrationist statements and actions.


When Dar is not slapping arbitrary charges on other East African Community citizens for daring to step onto its territory, it is behaving like a jealous regional sibling bent on making life as difficult as possible for everyone else.

When the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport caught fire recently, all regional airports chipped in to help with passenger traffic except, officials claim, for Tanzania's airports, which were immediately closed to Kenyan traffic.

When Kenya had a big food shortage two years ago, Tanzania immediately banned maize sales to Kenya, citing its own food insecurity. A week later, Dar sold the maize to Uganda. And last year, Kenya expressed interest in buying any excess natural gas from Tanzania's vast Songo Songo fields.

Dalliance
The Tanzanian response was curt: The gas is for domestic consumption only and is not for sale. This sounded like a good domestic policy until Tanzania went ahead and sold the gas to the Chinese.

The pattern that emerges is one of Tanzania walling itself away from the rest of the region, perhaps informed by its dalliance with the Southern African Development Community, a South-Africa-run group that rivals the East African Community, for Dar's attentions.

Amusingly, Tanzania, like Kenya and the rest of the EAC, is desperately poor. In fact, slightly worse. One would have imagined that opening up its borders to investment and skills from across the region, like Kagame's Rwanda has done, would be a no-brainer.
But when Kenyan tour agents began selling Mt Kilimanjaro trips to Europeans, who first sunbathe in Kenya before going to Tanzania, Tanzanians asked Kenyan tour agents to stop using photos of "its" Mt Kilimanjaro on their brochures!

 

[OmaryBabu]

its better to be there eac is no longer profitable to us

 

[Kiyoya]

As if expelling Banyarwanda was not enough, Tanzania has been in focus the last few months for some decidedly anti-integrationist statements and actions.


When Dar is not slapping arbitrary charges on other East African Community citizens for daring to step onto its territory, it is behaving like a jealous regional sibling bent on making life as difficult as possible for everyone else.

When the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport caught fire recently, all regional airports chipped in to help with passenger traffic except, officials claim, for Tanzania's airports, which were immediately closed to Kenyan traffic.

When Kenya had a big food shortage two years ago, Tanzania immediately banned maize sales to Kenya, citing its own food insecurity. A week later, Dar sold the maize to Uganda. And last year, Kenya expressed interest in buying any excess natural gas from Tanzania's vast Songo Songo fields.

Dalliance
The Tanzanian response was curt: The gas is for domestic consumption only and is not for sale. This sounded like a good domestic policy until Tanzania went ahead and sold the gas to the Chinese.

The pattern that emerges is one of Tanzania walling itself away from the rest of the region, perhaps informed by its dalliance with the Southern African Development Community, a South-Africa-run group that rivals the East African Community, for Dar's attentions.

Amusingly, Tanzania, like Kenya and the rest of the EAC, is desperately poor. In fact, slightly worse. One would have imagined that opening up its borders to investment and skills from across the region, like Kagame's Rwanda has done, would be a no-brainer.
But when Kenyan tour agents began selling Mt Kilimanjaro trips to Europeans, who first sunbathe in Kenya before going to Tanzania, Tanzanians asked Kenyan tour agents to stop using photos of "its" Mt Kilimanjaro on their brochures!

How dare you admire my wife Mmh!-Hey Mr arrogant keep away from wife!@#*

 

[Ndahani]

Usanii wa watu wa East Africa hautusaidii sisi kama Taifa. Naamini wanachokitafuta ni ardhi yetu na sio ushirikiano.Na watatumia migongo yetu kupata wanachotaka.

 

[Mkereketwa_Huyu]

Simple common sense. How is EAC profitable to Tanzania? There's nothing there for us, we are better off without EAC, it is a fact! Plus, with Rwanda nonsense of interfering with Congolese politics....it is just a matter of time before Kagame is over thrown or killed. Uganda too is not safe with Kony looming thereabouts. Kenya is playing catch up with Al Shabab vigilantes. Time will tell, but this EAC is doomed to die due to the current instability in the region. Get rid of Kagame and Museveni and have a stable government in those countries then think about integration, without that bye bye EAC and thank you Tanzania for opting out early.

 

[Sibonike]

As if expelling Banyarwanda was not enough, Tanzania has been in focus the last few months for some decidedly anti-integrationist statements and actions.


When Dar is not slapping arbitrary charges on other East African Community citizens for daring to step onto its territory, it is behaving like a jealous regional sibling bent on making life as difficult as possible for everyone else.

When the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport caught fire recently, all regional airports chipped in to help with passenger traffic except, officials claim, for Tanzania's airports, which were immediately closed to Kenyan traffic.

When Kenya had a big food shortage two years ago, Tanzania immediately banned maize sales to Kenya, citing its own food insecurity. A week later, Dar sold the maize to Uganda. And last year, Kenya expressed interest in buying any excess natural gas from Tanzania's vast Songo Songo fields.

Dalliance
The Tanzanian response was curt: The gas is for domestic consumption only and is not for sale. This sounded like a good domestic policy until Tanzania went ahead and sold the gas to the Chinese.

The pattern that emerges is one of Tanzania walling itself away from the rest of the region, perhaps informed by its dalliance with the Southern African Development Community, a South-Africa-run group that rivals the East African Community, for Dar's attentions.

Amusingly, Tanzania, like Kenya and the rest of the EAC, is desperately poor. In fact, slightly worse. One would have imagined that opening up its borders to investment and skills from across the region, like Kagame's Rwanda has done, would be a no-brainer.
But when Kenyan tour agents began selling Mt Kilimanjaro trips to Europeans, who first sunbathe in Kenya before going to Tanzania, Tanzanians asked Kenyan tour agents to stop using photos of "its" Mt Kilimanjaro on their brochures!

Mungi please be serious. For ages, maize, sugar and whatever have been smuggled from Tanzania to Kenya through those "Panya" routes. Are you not aware of the fact Tanzania has been feeding Kenya for so long? What Tanzania is trying to do is make the whole business profitable to Tanzania as a country.

When you burned your Airport (You clearly know what I mean - your Pattin business), Tanzania was one of the countries that opened its airports to rescue the situation. Now you are denying this.
You want our gas from Songosongo and it seems Tanzania has no right to choose where to sell and get more benefits. Such rights exclusively belong to the "might Kenya"
Most of the Kenyan exports are in fact coming to Tanzania though we are quite capable of getting the same items from elsewhere. You can't see this and how Kenya is benefiting. Should Tanzania stop this, you are going to shout as usual.
You have been advertising Mt Kilimanjaro as your own. Cheating unsuspecting tourists who come to Kenya knowing Mt Kilimanjaro and Serengeti National Park are in Kenya. Mind you, this amounts to declaring war against Tanzania. Idi Amin was doing the same with respect to Kagera. Let me remind you that Tanzania is more than capable of fighting and easily defeating Kenya should we decide enough is enough. Better weapons do not necessarily guarantee victory in a war.
When Tanzania was busy assisting our brothers and sisters in Mozambique, Angola, Namibia, Zimbabwe in their struggle for Independence, Kenya was busy doing business with the boers who were killing our brothers and sisters in those countries. How many wars has Kenya fought apart from the recent Somalia incursion?
The Museveni who want to be the first EAC president by hooks and crooks would not be there if he had not started his war efforts from Tanzania. After teaching Amin a lesson, we were in a position to make and unmake Uganda. Had the Nyang'au been in that position, who knows what will be of Uganda today. Now you are the "most willing" of EAC. Go ahead long as you do not insult Tanzania as you are doing.
Tanzania cannot build a road and hotels in Serengeti. But there are more in Hotels in Masai Mara that is smaller than Serengeti. Again Tanzania cannot harvest soda ash from Lake Natron why Kenya has been doing so for more than 100 years now.
We shall reach a point where we will simply say, inatosha.

 

[Getstart]

The author of the article is deliberately misinforming some facts to suit his/her intent. Tanzania did not close its airports during the Jomo Kenyatta Int. Airport fire, they were available for use as required in the industry!

 

[LordJustice1]

Kama Wakenya, Waganda na Wanyarwanda wanahitaji Tanzania kuwa kwenye EAC wangemwalika Rais Kikwete hata kwenye kikao cha kuweka ratiba ya ku-draft EAC Federation Draft Constitution, badala yake wamewaalika South Sudan ambao si wanachama! Yaani mipango ya ndani ya nyumba yako badala ya kupanga na mkeo, unatafuta mke wa jirani kupanga naye mipango bila hata kumjulisha mkeo! As long as they don't need us let them go ahead and stop complaining like a child who has a cup full of milk in his hand while cryng for milk!

 

[murutongore]

As if expelling Banyarwanda was not enough, Tanzania has been in focus the last few months for some decidedly anti-integrationist statements and actions.


When Dar is not slapping arbitrary charges on other East African Community citizens for daring to step onto its territory, it is behaving like a jealous regional sibling bent on making life as difficult as possible for everyone else.

When the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport caught fire recently, all regional airports chipped in to help with passenger traffic except, officials claim, for Tanzania's airports, which were immediately closed to Kenyan traffic.

When Kenya had a big food shortage two years ago, Tanzania immediately banned maize sales to Kenya, citing its own food insecurity. A week later, Dar sold the maize to Uganda. And last year, Kenya expressed interest in buying any excess natural gas from Tanzania's vast Songo Songo fields.

Dalliance
The Tanzanian response was curt: The gas is for domestic consumption only and is not for sale. This sounded like a good domestic policy until Tanzania went ahead and sold the gas to the Chinese.

The pattern that emerges is one of Tanzania walling itself away from the rest of the region, perhaps informed by its dalliance with the Southern African Development Community, a South-Africa-run group that rivals the East African Community, for Dar's attentions.

Amusingly, Tanzania, like Kenya and the rest of the EAC, is desperately poor. In fact, slightly worse. One would have imagined that opening up its borders to investment and skills from across the region, like Kagame's Rwanda has done, would be a no-brainer.
But when Kenyan tour agents began selling Mt Kilimanjaro trips to Europeans, who first sunbathe in Kenya before going to Tanzania, Tanzanians asked Kenyan tour agents to stop using photos of "its" Mt Kilimanjaro on their brochures!

If you ask any Tanzanian what is the economical gain from SADC, they won't tell you because there is NON. SADC is a political organization while the EAC is an economic one, and as I know tanzania very well, they like to go to meetings just to get their per diems and thats it. When it comes to implementation, they always find excuses. SADC is a South Africa run organization and Tanzanian want to play second fiddle to the south african. there is a saying that when one tire is punctured you remove it and replace it with another one and move on.

 

[LordJustice1]

Usanii wa watu wa East Africa hautusaidii sisi kama Taifa. Naamini wanachokitafuta ni ardhi yetu na sio ushirikiano.Na watatumia migongo yetu kupata wanachotaka.

Yaani tumpe dikteta Kagame ardhi yetu? He should go to hell!

 

[Mungi]

Usanii wa watu wa East Africa hautusaidii sisi kama Taifa. Naamini wanachokitafuta ni ardhi yetu na sio ushirikiano.Na watatumia migongo yetu kupata wanachotaka.

Mkuu Ndahani, I can agree with u Tz to pool out of EAC regional Economic and political integration, and focus on SADC, so what do you think Tz as a country will benefit from SADC? Ngoma iko hapo

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[Rock City]

I said before that, Tanzania should declare NO to EAC as per my signature below.

 

[bornagain]

As if expelling Banyarwanda was not enough, Tanzania has been in focus the last few months for some decidedly anti-integrationist statements and actions.


When Dar is not slapping arbitrary charges on other East African Community citizens for daring to step onto its territory, it is behaving like a jealous regional sibling bent on making life as difficult as possible for everyone else.

When the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport caught fire recently, all regional airports chipped in to help with passenger traffic except, officials claim, for Tanzania's airports, which were immediately closed to Kenyan traffic.

When Kenya had a big food shortage two years ago, Tanzania immediately banned maize sales to Kenya, citing its own food insecurity. A week later, Dar sold the maize to Uganda. And last year, Kenya expressed interest in buying any excess natural gas from Tanzania's vast Songo Songo fields.

Dalliance
The Tanzanian response was curt: The gas is for domestic consumption only and is not for sale. This sounded like a good domestic policy until Tanzania went ahead and sold the gas to the Chinese.

The pattern that emerges is one of Tanzania walling itself away from the rest of the region, perhaps informed by its dalliance with the Southern African Development Community, a South-Africa-run group that rivals the East African Community, for Dar's attentions.

Amusingly, Tanzania, like Kenya and the rest of the EAC, is desperately poor. In fact, slightly worse. One would have imagined that opening up its borders to investment and skills from across the region, like Kagame's Rwanda has done, would be a no-brainer.
But when Kenyan tour agents began selling Mt Kilimanjaro trips to Europeans, who first sunbathe in Kenya before going to Tanzania, Tanzanians asked Kenyan tour agents to stop using photos of "its" Mt Kilimanjaro on their brochures!

Another Rwandese propaganda, we had enough of you and now we are tired of your propaganda

 

[utantambua]

A simple misunderstanding between Rwanda and Tanzania condemns the fate of EAC. If regional blocks, the likes of EAC, are bound to fail, a United States of Africa is a pipedream that will never materialise. Africa is devoid of statesmen that can take us there.

 

[MWILI NYUMBA]

I’m sure by100% that the source of this ---- prapaganda is from some lunatic in one of the mental asylums in Kigali.Great thinkers don’t waste your time to discuss this shitt!

 

[Kwetunikwetu]

If you ask any Tanzanian what is the economical gain from SADC, they won't tell you because there is NON. SADC is a political organization while the EAC is an economic one, and as I know tanzania very well, they like to go to meetings just to get their per diems and thats it. When it comes to implementation, they always find excuses. SADC is a South Africa run organization and Tanzanian want to play second fiddle to the south african. there is a saying that when one tire is punctured you remove it and replace it with another one and move on.

Congo, Malawi, Zambia and Zimbabwe all of these countries do large businesses with Tanzania under the umbrella of SADC than a mere district called Rwanda. If we just let maize alone from one of our regions like Rukwa to come to Rwanda all of your country will be flooded ...!

 

[bansenbana]

Wakenya tatizo lenu kubwa ni ubinafsi uliokithiri. Kuhusu kukataa kuwauzia mahindi miaka miwili iliyopita, nakumbuka tulikuwa na uhaba wa mbegu za mahindi kabla ya msimu huo. Kenya ikazuia kuuza mbegu za mahindi Tanzania. Kwa bahati mbaya au nzuri??? Kenya ilikumbwa na ukame mkubwa hivyo taifa likapata njaa. Sasa mlikataa kutuuzia mbegu eti kwa kuwa hamkuwa nazo za kutosha. Mmekosa mazao mnataka tuwauzie mahindi. Hayo mahindi yatoke wapi wakati mlikataa kutuuzia mbegu?

 

[MkamaP]

Tanzania would rather be in Southern Africa, it seems

Updated Sunday, September 1st 2013 at 19:42 GMT +3

By PETER WANYONYI
As if expelling Banyarwanda was not enough, Tanzania has been in focus the last few months for some decidedly anti-integrationist statements and actions.

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When Dar is not slapping arbitrary charges on otherEast African Community citizens for daring to step onto its territory, it is behaving like a jealous regional sibling bent on making life as difficult as possible for everyone else.
When the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport caught fire recently, all regional airports chipped in to help with passenger traffic except, officials claim, forTanzania’s airports, which were immediately closed to Kenyan traffic.
When Kenya had a big food shortage two years ago,Tanzania immediately banned maize sales to Kenya, citing its own food insecurity. A week later, Dar sold the maize to Uganda. And last year, Kenya expressed interest in buying any excess natural gas fromTanzania’s vast Songo Songo fields.
Dalliance
The Tanzanian response was curt: The gas is for domestic consumption only and is not for sale. This sounded like a good domestic policy until Tanzaniawent ahead and sold the gas to the Chinese.
The pattern that emerges is one of Tanzania walling itself away from the rest of the region, perhaps informed by its dalliance with the Southern African Development Community, a South-Africa-run group that rivals the East African Community, for Dar’s attentions.
Amusingly, Tanzania, like Kenya and the rest of the EAC, is desperately poor. In fact, slightly worse. One would have imagined that opening up its borders to investment and skills from across the region, like Kagame’s Rwanda has done, would be a no-brainer.
But when Kenyan tour agents began selling Mt Kilimanjaro trips to Europeans, who first sunbathe in Kenya before going to Tanzania, Tanzanians asked Kenyan tour agents to stop using photos of “its” Mt Kilimanjaro on their brochures!

Source: Standard Digital News - Kenya : Tanzania would rather be in Southern Africa, it seems

 

[fisi 2]

many kenyans work illigally in tz.lets hunt them all n send them to their suffocating economy. Tanzania is for Tanzanians. Uzalendo mbele sasa.

 

[MkamaP]

By NICHOLAS WAITATHU
Millers have upped the ante on maize imports from neighbouring countries to sustain the local market as stock dwindle.

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Between March and August this year, millers have imported about 300,000 tonnes of maize fromTanzania and Uganda.
The imports have stabilised the price of flour, which has been edging down marginally in the past few months.
The chairman of the Cereal Millers AssociationDiamond Lalji said millers have been buying maize at between Sh2,600 and Sh3,000 per 90 kilo bag.
"Millers have exhausted all their stocks, but stable supply of maize from Uganda and Tanzania has ensured we receive enough maize, and at the same time maintain the prices of flour at affordable levels," said Mr Lalji last week.
Sustaining demand
Lalji noted that imports from the two countries play a critical role in bridging the deficit, giving millers relief at a time they can ill-afford to import maize from countries outside the EAC following the re-introduction of duty on imported maize.
"We are charged 50 per cent tax when we import maize and that is a thing that we cannot think of doing right now," said Mr Lalji. "Cross-border trade has been key in ensuring we have enough stocks to sustain the demand."
In local supermarkets, a two kilogramme fortified maize flour packet is retailing at Sh103 having decreased from a high of Sh116 in February this year.
According to the National Cereal and Produce Board ( NCPB), the local strategic grain reserve has 2.1 million bags of maize, much less than the 3 million bags required to cushion the market against shortage.
NCPB spokesperson Evans Wasike in an interview explained that stock carried over from the previous season has been sustaining the market since March this year.

Source: Standard Digital News - Kenya : Uganda, Tanzania maize imports stabilise flour prices in Kenya