SGR Ethiopia one and a half years later.

ur drainage is poor! a reason sections collapsed ! look at this..



from this



n compare with..


 
Geza Ulole said:
ur drainage is poor! a reason sections collapsed ! look at this..



from this



n compare with..


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You are trying too hard man!!! The first pic is from phase 1 back in 2016 during construction, The second pic is for phase 2A during construction in 2018?



Do you know why the Ethiopian trained derailed??

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Lost $10 m due to derailed rail caused by flooding. Talks underway with insurance companies.

Earned $54 m since it went operational

Railway corp complains of night time robbery of spare parts from the rails
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It was because of flooding! Excessive Flooding brought rocks and silt to the drainage system, once the drainage was filling up the rocks ended up on top of the high speed railway.... If the rail was on high embankment this would have never happened..




You can expect the same thing on your SGR if you ever find yourselves in an unprecedented rains, which is bound to happen in the future!
 
so far this has happened at SGR Kenya!

 
Mvua kubwa imeshanyesha Tanzania na kusababisha mafuriko lakini hamna sehemu ya reli iliyoharibika.
Wewe huwezi kuwazidi akili watu wa Denmark waliodesign wala Wakorea wanaosimamia mradi.
 
kilam said:
Mvua kubwa imeshanyesha Tanzania na kusababisha mafuriko lakini hamna sehemu ya reli iliyoharibika.
Wewe na Kafrican hamuwezi kuwazidi akili watu wa Denmark waliodesign wala Wakorea wanaosimamia mradi.
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so far 3 people have died in Kenya as far as SGR accidents related to poor drainage system!



Two SGR workers killed after culvert collapses on Naivasha line


A section of SGR at DK 31 Mtito Andei site/FILE

Two people died after a culvert along the SGR line collapsed in Mai Mahiu, Naivasha on Monday.
Four other workers were injured after they were buried in the culvert.
A worker who declined to be named said the section was weak following rains in the area over the past week.




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He said they heard a loud bang, followed by screams as the section caved in and buried the workers.
"They were six and we managed to retrieve four who were rushed to hospital but the other two had died before we could rescue them," he said.
The worker said they victims did not have helmets or protective gear.
"Had the contractor provided safety gear, the lives would have been saved. We challenge the government to direct them to provide the same to us," he added.
Area OCS Ezra Sambu said the injured workers will be transfered to Kijabe Mission Hospital.
He said they are investigating the incident to establish if there was negligence.
The incident comes a week after 150 workers from the Pipeline camp downed their tools to protest risks associated with their job.

They said they are being forced to ride in open construction trucks, which they termed dangerous.
The contractors have now provided them with a mini bus.

Two SGR workers killed after culvert collapses on Naivasha line

Two people died after a culvert along the SGR line collapsed in Mai Mahiu, Naivasha on Monday.Four other workers were injured after they were buried in the culvert.A worker who declined to be named said the section was weak following rains in the area over the past week.He said they heard a loud...
www.the-star.co.ke
 
kilam said:
Mvua kubwa imeshanyesha Tanzania na kusababisha mafuriko lakini hamna sehemu ya reli iliyoharibika.
Wewe huwezi kuwazidi akili watu wa Denmark waliodesign wala Wakorea wanaosimamia mradi.
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Hata sisi tumekua na mafuriko mengi zaidi! Alafu ukiangalia picha na video nyingi za SGR Tz, Utaona wanaanza na kujenga drainage hata kabla kueka reli, Manake wanajua mvua kidogo bila drainage kila kitu kitafagiliwa!!!!! Tofauti na upande wa Kenya ambapo drainage ndo kitu cha mwisho (2nd last, last ni kupanda nyasi) manake wakishaeka slop protection hata bila drainage hakuna risk yoyte kwa reli... Huko kwenu drainage ikifeli basi walio juu ya reli waanze kupiga dua manake mwisho wa dunia!

And BTW, nyinyi mvua ikianza kunyesha mnafurusha virago vyenu Hadi pale mvua itakapoisha, tofauti na huku mchina huendelea kuchapa kazi juu ya tuta hata kama Kuna mafuriko!

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although Tanzania Railway Limited(TRL) managing Directo Masanja Kadogosa says that the project is behind schedule by 4 percent mainly caused by heavy rains that have been witnessed in the east African nation.

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MWANAKA said:
Hawajaweka vizuri Sheria zao kulinda miundo mbinu ya reli toka lini mfugo wako ugongwe halafu uidai fidia serikali? Vituko vya Ethiopia hivyo hapa kwetu hakunaga hiyo
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Nyie ni wa kufanya mambo kwa kifua.
 
Geza Ulole said:
Hivi btn a superior drainage systems n embarkments which is the best way to preserve a railway? Learn a thing from here!

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Unatakiwa kujua embarkment ndio best way ya kukabiliana na mafuriko,drainage structures ni supportive hakuna ubishi labda useme hiyo embarkment itazingatiwa maeneo àmbayo ni prone kwa flooding,ila kama ni cross level italeta shida sana
Tazara railway uko resilient sana kwa vile embarkment yake iko high sana nadhani umepita hiyo reli kutoka Dar hadi kapili umeona
 
since when? drainage system! Holland and Denmark have all reclaimed their land using efficient drainage system!
 
Bwana254 said:
Niliota juzu tu vile reli hii ya Tz ilikwama wakati umeme ulipotea na niliona wanyama wengi wameuliwa pale Morogoro na treni ya SGR . Hii reli ya Tz ilijengwa bila fikra n mipangilio mizuri hata engine ya Uturuki haikupenda ikaanguka .
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kama hawa


CRBC raises alarm on increasing number of livestock on SGR track
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Kenya launched its first high-speed railway in June, a rail link connecting Nairobi and the port city of Mombasa, that cost about Sh327 billion/CFM

By KENNEDY KANGETHE, NAIROBI, Kenya, Oct 17 – China Roads and Bridges Corporation has raised concerns over an alarming rate of livestock accidents with the Standard Gauge Railway trains.
CRBC has told Capital FM Business that there have been more than 140 accidents along the railway line involving cows and trespasses including breach of the perimeter fence.
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The Head of Public Relations Sia Li says villagers in the area are breaking into the protecting fence to graze his cows along the tracks of the railway.

“This is dangerous as it could cause a huge accident that could affect the railway line. We are urging Kenyans living along the corridor to desist from grazing their livestock on the corridor,” Sia said.

She says most of the herders break the barrier that restricts access to the railway line.

Kenya launched its first high-speed railway in June, a rail link connecting Nairobi and the port city of Mombasa, that cost about Sh327 billion.

The railway has been designed for environmental compatibility particularly within the national parks where fencing is provided throughout the corridor along with under passages for wild animals.

The railway on construction was developed for freight and passenger traffic with freight train will having the capacity of 216 twenty feet equivalent units (TEUs traveling at an average speed of 80 kilometers per hour and they will be operated on the basis of speed, safety, and cost-effectiveness.

Each passenger train has a capacity of 1200 passengers and travels at the average speed of 120 kilometers per hour.

CRBC raises alarm on increasing number of livestock on SGR track

NAIROBI, Kenya, Oct 17 – China Roads and Bridges Corporation has raised concerns over an alarming rate of livestock accidents with the Standard Gauge Railway trains. CRBC has told Capital…
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REDEEMER. said:
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Very correct.
The earnings of Kenya's SGR were below expectations ,but also unrealistic.No one except those who are highly uninformed expected the SGR to be profitable in its first year. The SGR of Kenya has a lot of potential in the sense that, compared to the Ethiopian one, it s a China Class 1,meaning it can handle a lot of freight.
In the first year, the SGR transported around 5 million of the over 30 million tonnes handled at the Port of Mombasa.Starting this year, importers, at least Kenyan ones who expect to deal with the Government in terms of supplies and tenders can only transport via the SGR(Contrary to previous reports that ALL traders are being forced to use the SGR. If you are an importer and you do not do business with the Government, you can use whichever mode of transport you wish) and that alone may double the amount of freight transported.
The bottleneck right now is at Embakasi where the Nairobi ICD is facing serious congestion issues.That is not surprising as freight grew suddenly by nearly 700%.That is why Naivasha's ICD is important.Transit cargo destined for Uganda, Rwanda and South Sudan will be collected and cleared at the Naivasha ICD,where importing nations can opt to choose to continue with rail in the case of Uganda or road for the rest.This will cut travel time by a significant margin as the train will take only around 5 to 6 hours from Mombasa to Naivasha, then the Ugandans ,Rwandans and South Sudanese can do their clearing there(instead of the congested Mombasa) and then opt to choose a mode of transport.This will cut the time for transport by several days given how trucks move slowly from Mombasa to Kampala, Kigali and Juba. Starting the journeyfrom Naivasha willl mean a much shorter travel time.
Kenyan importers will continue to face the issue of slow clearance as they have to deal with 23 agencies at Embakasi.This may change in future as the proposal to kick out 18 of the 23 agencies and leave just KPA,KRA,KEBS ,Kenya Railways and the Licensing board of the product e.g Pharmacy and Poisons board for Medicine imports has been endorsed and only KEBS, KPA and Kenya Railways will operate at the Port.
Transit importers will not as they are not subject to Kenyan agencies beyond KPA,Kenya Railways and NTSA.
As for passengers, Kenya Railways's SGR transported over a million passengers as compared to Ethiopia's 168,000,so clearly, the Kenyan SGR is performing far better on the passenger side.
As for the debt, Kenya has the Railway Development Levy which has been charging at 1.5 percent of the value of imports excluding imports from EAC. It has been in place since 2013.
The 30 billion the National Land Commission used to compensate land owners for the Nairobi-Mombasa line ALL CAME FROM THE RDL .Not a single cent came from the Chinese.
Since 2013, the Railway Development Levy has collected sh 95 billion

Railway levy nets Sh95bn in five years as Kenyans pay for the line

Money collected over the period is charged on imported cargo and footed by buyers.
www.nation.co.ke
This is set to rise as this year, the Railway Development Levy has risen from 1.5 % to 2% thus we will be collecting not less than sh 30-34 billion up from 25.5 billion collected last year.(Our imports were $17 billion in 2018. 2% of that is $340 million but I give the figure of sh 30 billion due to EAC imports being excluded from the RDL)
Given that we have to pay the Chinese 26 billion in both interest and principle every year, I think we have got it covered. Kenya thus has a tax we have been paying to cover the cost of the railway.This panic of the debt is unwarranted.Instead the focus should be on ensuring the money collected is not looted, which has happened on the Nairobi-Naivasha line where the NLC has overpaid land owners for their land , often by millions of shillings.That reduces the amount that is available for debt repayment.
As such Kenya is perfectly capable of paying for its own railway from a revenue perspective.
 
This was two years ago when the Railway line was opened.That time the underpasses for both domestic and wild animals were not complete and we had incidents of baby Elephants getting trapped in the drainage and even lions being struck. No such incidents have happened in 2019.
 
Papi Chulo said:
But the problem is, when did they build it..!???...this is how they are different from you!!!

We got no problem with diesel trains,but you can't build 'em nowadays!
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Tell me why;? You seem not to be knowing the dynamics in Train Tech. And obviously you think by being electric means modern.

ELECTRIC TRAINS ARE AS OLD AS DIESEL, EVEN OLDER.

THE FIRST WAS BUILD IN 1870S'


SO TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TWO DEPENDS ON FACTORS LIKE AVAILABILITY OF ELECTRICITY AND ITS STABILITY AND VALUE FOR MONEY.

NOT SKEWED THINKING OF SAYING ELECTRIC TRAINS ARE MODERN.




TO EDUCATE YOU MORE, ZIMBABWE LAUNCHED ELECTRIC TRAINS AS EARLY AS 1983.
THAT WAS REALLY A SHOW OFF RIGHT? JUST LIKE TZ WILL WANT TO DO.

HOWEVER THEY WENT BACK TO DIESEL AFTER REALIZING,,,,, ELECTRIC IS NOT MODERN
https://www.theindependent.co.zw/2009/10/22/its-back-to-diesel-as-vandalism-derails-nrz/

ETHIOPIA IS SHOWING THE VERY SIGNS, SOON THEY WILL BE BACK TO DIESEL.

YAANI MKENYA AKIFANYA KITU HUWA AMEPIGA MBELE VIPOA.
 
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