"Rwanda: The Untold Story": questions for the BBC

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A deeply flawed BBC documentary on Rwanda's genocide raises serious questions over the corporation's ethics and standards.

"There is no reasonable basis for anyone to dispute that, during 1994, there was a campaign of mass killing intended to destroy, in whole or at least in very large part, Rwanda's Tutsi population… That campaign was, to a terrible degree, successful; although exact numbers may never be known, the great majority of Tutsis were murdered, and many others were raped or otherwise harmed." [
International Criminal Court for Rwanda, 16 June 2006]

It is not often a documentary comes along that totally reattributes the historical reality of a genocide in a mere one hour. Indeed the BBC programme
Rwanda: the Untold Story, broadcast at prime-time on 1 October 2014, managed this in a record ten-minute section of its airtime.Twenty years of scholarly research by academics such as Gérard Prunier, Linda Melvern, Mahmood Mamdani,Howard Adelman, Jean-François Dupaquier, Jean-Pierre Chrétien and Allan Thompson (to name just a few) was pushed aside.

Thousands of witness interviews for the
International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR), archived documents and judgements were made equally redundant.

So were many official reports by the United Nations Security Council in
1994 and 1999; the African Union; and human-rights groups - especially the landmark work by Alison des Forges at Human Rights Watch and Rakiya Omarat African Rights.

Instead, the BBC entrusted the exposure of the "true" story of the genocide to two American academics, Allan Stam and Christian Davenport, who had travelled to Rwanda in 1998 and
found everyone they spoke to telling the same story about the genocide. This, they decided, was not because people were recounting what had actually happened but because they had been brainwashed or frightened into a massive cover-up.

Standing in front of a scientific-looking multi-coloured "results" map of Rwanda, they flashed up impressively scientific-looking statistics of troop movements across Rwanda in 1994 to prove their point. In essence, they alleged that instead of 800,000 Tutsi deaths there were only around 200,000. Even more incredibly, they proposed at least 800,000 Hutus had been killed at the hands of the Rwandese Patriotic Front (
RPF), as they pushed the genocidal Rwandan army and Hutu militias from the country.

The accepted death-toll figures by researchers such as
Gérard Prunier, Alison des Forges and Marijke Verpooten's forensic examination in 2005 are simply dismissed. As indeed are all legal judgments from the ICTR where hundreds of investigators, scholars and acute legal minds have worked for two decades.

Edward Herman and David Peterson were to use the "results" in their book
The Politics of Genocide, published in 2010. It was swiftly discredited by scholars who ridiculed both the methodology of the research and its suspected underlying motivation. For example, Gerry Caplan, author of the African Union report Rwanda: the preventable genocide, criticised Herman and Peterson as being part of an ideologically driven core of genocide-deniers, genocide-revisers and opponents of the current Rwandan government.

The main aim of this small group, Caplan
argued, was to shift the blame for the tragedy to theirbête noir Paul Kagame, the current Rwandan leader, who has become for them (and some western media) a figure of intense, almost pathological, dislike. The BBC film certainly reflects this view.

The constant thread throughout the hour-long film was the desire to denigrate Kagame, through a cast-list of eight long-time enemies of the Rwandan leader. There was no balancing view, no attempt to analyse in depth or understand the history that brought Rwanda to the events of 1994. Instead viewers were treated to crushing tabloid accusations, pithy soundbites from the selected group of carefully chosen interviewees, sly insinuations and slo-mo shots of the Rwandan leader looking suitably diabolical.

There was no new "untold" evidence to back up claims. Here was a chance for the highly complex, emotionally-charged Rwandan story to be considered on prime-time television. Instead it was reduced to a good vs evil parody that left anyone with knowledge of the country and its history, who surely included many genocide survivors in Europe, with a feeling of frank disbelief and anger.

What's untold

The event many see as the trigger for the genocide is the shooting down of the plane of President Juvenal Habyarimana on 6 April 1994. The film's cursory "explanation" for what happened was based on the claim by a single RPF defector, now in France, that he
heard Kagame order the destruction of the plane.
The programme also cited the report by French judge Jean-Louis Bruguière, published in 2006. This report has long since been
derided for relying on half a dozen Rwandan defectors, many of whom swiftly went public to say that their statements had been corrupted to meet Bruguière's requirements, and that they had been promised French visas should they comply with his wishes.

Wikileaks subsequently
showed Bruguière's none-too-subtle political agenda. The judge is currently under investigation for perjury, withholding evidence and obstruction of justice in other cases he handled.

Unsurprisingly, there is no mention of the more recent independent and meticulous
report in 2012 by the investigating judge Marc Trévidic that showedclearly the missiles were fired from an area controlled by extremist Hutu units of the presidential guard; nor of research in 2008 by the UK's Cranfield University that came to the same conclusion.

Instead another academic is extensively cited: the Belgian professor and vociferous opponent of Kagame,
Filip Reyntjens. Again, no mention of the fact that he was a long-term advisor to Habyarimana and has not been in Rwanda for twenty years. All this is a mockery of supposed investigative journalism.

The two main beneficiaries of the film are high-profile RPF defectors: Theogene Rudasingwa and General Kayumba Nyamwasa. Their views are unchallenged and taken, in effect, as gospel. No attempt is made to explore their own backgrounds and current political ambitions. Nyamwasa was
head of Rwanda's army after the genocide, and was accused both of trying to build a separate power-base within the military and of involvement in a series of corruption scams and illegal land-grabs while in office.

Rudasingwa was said to be implicated in a lucrative financial scam while employed in the office of the president. Rwanda's zero tolerance of corruption, as
witnessed byTransparency International, makes it unsurprising that both fled the country rather than face the charges against them. The two men, along with two other defectors (Patrick Karegeya and Gerald Gahima), founded an opposition party in exile, the Rwanda National Congress [RNC], in 2010 aimed at unseatingKagame.

Nyamwasa's RNC is alleged to be allied to the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda [FDLR] in the
borderlands of eastern DRC and Rwanda. The FDLR is made up of many genocidaire who fled to the region after the RPF pushed them from Rwanda, and has become synonymous with terrorising the local population over the past fifteen years, including the mass rape and murder of tens of thousands of innocent civilians. Its leader Sylvestre Mudacumura iswanted at the ICC for gross human-rights violations.

FDLR atrocities inside Rwanda in recent years have left scores dead and injured from grenade attacks, with the RNC implicated in assisting funding and supply of arms to the group. Both Nyamwasa and Rudasingwa were sentenced in their absence by Rwandan courts - in Nyamwasa's case not to life imprisonment (as the film affirms) but to twenty-four years for corruption, misuse of office, and threatening state security. Rudasingwa was given the same sentence in absentia.

The film features numerous such factual inaccuracies, misleading generalisations and omissions. There is no mention of the genocidal pogroms that caused hundred of thousands of Tutsis to flee between 1959 and 1972-73; nor of the fact that the RPF chose a military path back into Rwanda in 1990 precisely because Habyarimana had consistently blocked the peaceful return of the refugees to their homeland; nor of the genocidal massacres of thousands of Tutsis in 1990-93 by Habyarimana's army and militia.

The two terrible
Congolese wars (1996-97, 1998-2003) are explained in a few short sentences though the motivation of the belligerents involved the highly complex interplay of six countries and dozens of militias, and originated in the border camps that were filled with genocidaire as well as innocent Hutu refugees. Both United Nations and Amnesty International reports have testified that these camps had become a launchpad for a planned re-invasion by the genocidal interim government and its forces.

What next?

The ethics of the BBC programme makers are extremely questionable. There was no evident attempt to talk to Tutsi survivors or survivor groups. The Rwandan organiser who assisted the film crew in practical arrangements was told it was purely a film about the twentieth commemoration; months afterwards he was called suddenly by the BBC producer, told the film was highly controversial, his life could be in danger, and that he should flee. The very serious implication is that the documentary makers were prepared to put his life, and that of his wife and children, in danger, without ever mentioning this to him until too late.

The site
director of the genocide memorial at Murambi, Gaspard Mukwiye - who tends the place and the memories of its 50,000 Tutsi victims, and is himself a Tutsi survivor - was also persuaded into taking part in a film that effectively denied his acute suffering and personal loss, still vividly etched on his face. It should be noted the "repressive" regime the film portrayed gave the BBC complete open access to its media archives and to film wherever and whatever it wanted.

The BBC has since 2006 many times
reaffirmed its editorial guidelines, including that "we should do all we can to ensure that controversial subjects are treated with due accuracy and impartiality in all relevant output." Viewers can make up their own minds how accurate and impartial this programme is and wonder if other genocides are next on the BBC revisionist menu, subsumed under its current obsession to "break news" and controversies.

That is the best-case interpretation. It can only be hoped the corporation is not home to senior executives who actively hold malevolent views of genocide denial which they are misusing public money and privilege to promote.

Source: OpenDemocracy

https://www.opendemocracy.net/andrew-wallis/rwanda-untold-story-questions-for-bbc
 
Hayo ni maoni ya mtandao, leta yako. You can fool some people sometimes but you can't fool all the people all the time. Kagame pamoja na propaganda zake zote hapa hachomoki, ICC yamngoja.
 

Hakuna haja ya kuhangaika kujibu chochote:

Andrew wallis ni MSHAURI WA SERIKALI YA RWANDA/KAGAME. unategemea aseme nini? Huyu mtu ni sehemu ya PR machine ya Rwanda. Hivi sasa huu utumbo wake umeshakuwa re-tweeted hundreds of time na watutsi wote extremists twitter na kuwa shared vya kutosha huko facebook.
Articles za huyu "genocide scholar" huwa zinachapishwa regularly kwenye gazeti la " MSHAURI WA RWANDA " mwingine Bw. Andrew mwenda na hata ukiingia sasa hivi :http://www.independent.co.ug utakuta huu utumbo front-page. Ingia kwenye regional news utakuta kuna habari za Rwanda zaidi ya EAC nzima combined ! Hii mbinu ya Kagame ya kununua media imeshashitukiwa siku nyingi sana. Sitashangaa hapa nyumbani kwetu kama gazeti la CITIZEN linalohaririwa na RICHARD MGAMBA nalo likachapisha huu utumb o, lets watch!

Hebu angalieni akili ya huyu MSHAURI WA KAGAME, ANDREW WALLIS hapa:

Andrew Wallis, an advisor to the Kagame government, takes all of this in stride, raising and then answering a critically important question:
"The question is whether Rwanda is ready for a Western-style democracy, and the answer at this point probably is no," said Wallis. "He has been called many things, but one is for sure: Kagame is a man of immense vision, and that vision is being impressively implemented. Why must outsiders keep pushing their theories of how to run a country onto Rwanda?"
source:Ari Kohen's Blog â€" The Rwandan Election

kwa akili hizi, HUYU NDIO MTU WA KUBISHANA NA BBC?
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http://ugandansatheart.org/2010/03/05/andrew-mwenda-is-on-kagames-payroll/


cc: Gama Bongolander
 
jMali
Hahah!tatizo ni mwandishi au tatizo nifacts anazotoa, kwako wewe ni utumbo ila najua atakayesoma na kuchukua mda wa kufanya analysis atapata ukweli, on your point wapinzani wa Kagame ambao ndio huyo mwandishi amequote wao ndio wakusikilizwa.
Any neutral person atasikia pande zote then achukue uamuzi:
Na wana Jamiiforum vilevile watasoma thread zote then kila mtu atafanya personal analysis yakwake.
 
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Talkandtalk

hakuna facts hapo kuna analysis tu, ndio maana lazima uangalie "mtazamo" huo anautoa nani! Na nimeweka makusudi ili wana JF wamsome huyo jamaa wakijua kuwa ni ADVISOR WA KAGAME so he is already biased. Kama wewe hiyo FACT haikusumbui mimi inanisumbua.
On the other hand BBC haina bias yoyote.
 
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jMali
Namimi fact ya ku interview Kayumba na Rudasingwa ambao ni wapinzani number 1 wa Kagame, then comments zahao jamaa ndio unataka ku force watu wakubali kwamba ni revelead unquestionable truth hatutaelewana.
Nasisitiza lazima na upande mwingine usikilizwe..
Iwe analysis iwe nini cha mhimu kuna sehemu kadanganya?
 
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Talkandtalk

Tofautisha mtazamo na fact. Mtazamo ni idea za mtu, so you are right, kata vipande vyote vya rudasingwa, nyamwasa etc: je kuna utata katika the following FACTS kutoka kwenye hiyo documentary?:

1. The prosecutor's office had evidence to indict kagame in 2002, but she was removed before doing that?
2. That in 1997, UN investigative team recommended the prosecutor of ICTR to arrest kagame?
3. That former US secretary of state Warren Christopher confirms that the white house received intel on RPF mass killings in 1994!
 
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jMali

1. The prosecutor's office had evidence to indict kagame in 2002, but she was removed before doing that?
As long as those evidence are not out, as long as Kagame was not indicted why do you force me to believe that??
2. That in 1997, UN investigative team recommended the prosecutor of ICTR to arrest kagame?
Then why they didn`t arrest him?
3. That former US secretary of state Warren Christopher confirms that the white house received intel on RPF mass killings in 1994.
Even to day those msg are still sent not only to white house but also to HRW,UN etc not all sent messages are credible,
Do you know how many reports are being sent by Rudasingwa and the likes?
 
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Mara zote napofuatilia mjadala hapo hugundua yafuatayo:
1. jMali pamoja na hoja kuwa na mantiki lakini mara nyingi huongozwa na chuki binafsi dhidi ya Kagame.
2. Hapa Tanzania kuna " wanyarwanda" wengi hawampendi Kagame kwa sababu zao binafsi. Wengi ni wanafki wanaendesha uharamia maeneo ya Kagera na Kigoma hawataki kurudi Rwanda kwa kuwa sasa mfumo mpya wa maisha hauwafai.
3. Wapinzani wengi wa kiafrika ni watafuta nafasi ya kufuja mali za umma na wakikutana na wazungu wanatafuta fursa basi watabwabwaja upuuzi ili mradi kuna promo wanapewa.
4.Wabongo wengi hata Rwanda hawajawahi kwenda hupotoshwa na stories za vijiweni.
KWANGU Mimi demokrasia ya kizungu sio muhimu wananchi masikini wanataka rais atakaewahakikishia uhakika wa kula na elimu nzuri pamoja na mahitaji mengineyo. Na hilo Kagame amefaulu kuliko wengi ambavyo hawakutarajia.
 
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king kan

Karibu sana mkuu...mimi ni mnywarwanda na kuna msemo fulani eti "waarabu wa pemba hujuana kwa vilemba"...huyu jMali ni mnyarwanda ambae ana chuki binafsi na raisi wetu Kagame. Kuhusu unyarwanda wake hilo tumeshalidhihirisha ijapokuwa bado anakataa ili aendelee kupata support ya watanzania. Watanzania wengi hawana tatizo na Rwanda wala Kagame, kwenye siasa kuna kutofautiana ila yote hayo huwa yanapita. Nashukuru kuwa umegundua kuwa jMali sio mtanzania. Naomba uendelee kuwaelimisha watanzania wengine ili wamjue for what he really is.
 
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Mkuu mimi nimeishi Kagera sana na hata sasa bado Kagera ni nyumbani. Nimekuja Rwanda mara kadhaa nimeona maendeleo kwa macho sehemu nyingi tu kama Kibungo, Kigali na maeneo kama Butare. Nimeona watu wana uhakika wa kula, kusoma, umeme usio na mashaka na hata usalama wa uhakika. Nimeona jinsi watu wa wanavyojivunia mafanikio na wanavyojiona wana bahati kuwa sehemu ya Rwanda mpya. Nilipata kumuhoji raia mmoja akaniambia " Sisi hatutaki siasa, tunaishi kwa amani na watoto wetu wanauhakika wa kusoma elimu bora hata kama wazazi wao hawana pesa". Niliwaona watu wakichapa kazi kujenga nchi.
Ukiambiwa kuna watu walikuwa pale Lukole Ngara leo ukiwaona huwezi amini, wameanza maisha upya na wanafanikiwa.
 
Andrew Wallis is biased but not Filip Reyntjens?? Extremist hutu hypocrisy. You people cant and will not rewrite history two decades down the road. We all know what happened, it's crystal clear. I dont need some stupid BBC documentary to school me on what happened.

Huyu jMali ni Habyarimana junta sympathizer, in fact he "could" be connected to that regime. I would not be surprised if his father or mother was part of that sick administration. Ana hasira sana na Tutsi more than an ordinary law abiding reconstructionist hutu ever would harbor. Huyu lazima alikimbia Rwanda akiwa mdogo baada ya baba zake kufurumushwa na majeshi ya ukombozi ya RPA.

Haiwezekani yeye kila leo ni kuwasema Tutsi na Kagame as if all Tutsi support Kagame. Hamna jema linalofanywa na Kagame, kwake kila kitu akifanyacho Kagame ni uovu,c'mon dude you are shooting yourself on your foot. Watu wanaona chuki yako na kukupuuza. Hata hii documentary ya kipuuzi (ambayo umeijua kwa kuwa nimeiandikia mimi hapa) inaongelea kwa uchache (kwa unafiki wa BBC) mazuri ya Kagame. Wewe kila leo Tutsi this Tutsi that, quit that ying yang. Hata huyo Habyarimana hakuwa anapendwa na hutu wote. Ever heard of Nordist hutu?

Only extremist hutus like you, opportunistic treasonous detractors and a handful of western hired hands (ref BBC documentary) would buy that only 200,000 Tutsi were butchered. Rudasingwa is nothing but an armchair quarterback, what does he know about war? he's an ivory tower paper flipper with an axe to grind, ungrateful bastard! Now Kayumba just amazes me. For he to sit back and somehow partake in this documentary is simply absurd. Katika watu ambao ni makatili na hardliners huyu jamaa anapitwa labda na Maj. Gen, Nziza. Had he and his faction had their way, there would be no hutu left in Rwanda. Mumshukuru sana Kagame nyie.

Najua unaogopa kurudi Kigali. Wewe kama huna damu mikononi mwako, nenda Rwanda uone kama utaitambua nchi iliyokuwa kama kijiji miaka 20 tu iliyopita chini ya uongozi "wenu" makatili ninyi.
 
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Majibu yote yako kwenye documentary.
Ps: rekebisha the way you quote, it doesn't come out right.
 
king kan

let me guess umegundua pia kuwa BBC inaongozwa na chuki dhidi ya Kagame right?
 
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kweli kabisa Rwanda kuna maendeleo. Hawa jamaa hapo kwenye picha lazima watakuwa interahamwe au FDLR. Haiwezekani wakimbie elimu ya bure, uhakika wa kula, kusoma, umeme na usalama waje KUKAA MAPORINI TANZANIA KAMA WAHAMIAJI HARAMU!! Afadhali tulivyowafukuza warudi kwako WAKAJENGEWE MAHEKALU KILA MTU LAKE, NA HAWA WATOTO WAPEWE IPAD ZA KWENDEA SHULE ZA BURE COURTESY OF THE GREAT LIBERATOR KAGAME!!





SOURCE: Tanzania returnees resettled
SOURCE: IOM aids Rwandan returnees from Tanzania - International Organization for Migration

NA HAWA WENGINE.....
IRENE MWAMFUPE JAMII: WANYARWANDA WANASWA BONGO WAKIJIUZA USIKU POLISI WAWAPA KIBANO.
 
murutongore

vile vile BBC ni mali ya Interahamwe!!
 
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Mkuu wala ucjali,huyu jmali&co yake,wala hakuna Mbongo hapo,wa tz wanamchora anavojifanyaga anavoongea eti cc watanzania cjui nn,upuuz mtupu!yy awe anaongea Kama nyinyi wanyarwanda mnavojielezea interest zenu na kwa taifa lenu!
 
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Commanche

Mkuu mm anataka anieleze japo mazuri machache yaliyofanywa na fdlr na pia mafanikio ya serikali yake tangu walipopata madaraka mpaka walipotekeleza genocide 1994!
 
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jMali

Kuna mengi tu ya kuangalia. In my view kwa sasa Rwanda as a whole is under the rule of man and the man here is PK. Kama mtu anataka kusema Rwanda kuna rule of law au western democracy sijui kama atakuwa sahihi, and am not sure whether than Rwanda needs or not. Lakini the question is not whether the country is under rule of law or rule of man, nchi imetulia. Amani na utulivu ni vitu viwili tofauti.

Main issue na ambayo mara nyingi Jmali analeta jukwaani hapa ni kuwa we should be fooled by the media that Hutus were only perpetrators and tutsis were only victims.

If you watch the video and listen to what those who were close to Kagame say, then you clearly see that Genocide has another side of story which need to be told.
 
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