Papa Francis: There are limits to free expression

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Ishmael said:
So, your deity is now a KING. Do you know that Allah has no comparison?
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dogo , I will show you in the Bible as well, Psalm 47:7; For God is the King of all the earth; sing to him a psalm of praise. Psalm 103:19 Yahweh has established his throne in the heavens. His kingdom rules over all.
These verses state in a simple way the attribute of God which theologians call his "sovereignty." God is King, enthroned "over," not "in" or "among," the affairs of his creation. Moreover, these scriptures and others make it clear that God is the only true King of all things.
BTW, dogo why don't you answer my questions. Did Jesus experience a same-sex relationship? For some people, the Bible is clear: Jesus had a gay partner. For generations, scholars have debated the meaning of the line in the Gospel of John (13:23), which states: ‘Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.' While most believe it refers to a platonic love between Jesus' follower and cousin, John, others see the love between the men as a romantic partnership.

My second question; Was Jesus Crazy? Mark 3:21; When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, "He is out of his mind."
 
Adiosamigo said:
dogo , I will show you in the Bible as well, Psalm 47:7; For God is the King of all the earth; sing to him a psalm of praise. Psalm 103:19 Yahweh has established his throne in the heavens. His kingdom rules over all.
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So, Allah is now the King and the Father of Jesus. The God of the Bible is the Father. Why, do you say Allah has no Son?, if Allah is the same God of the Bible?

To my knowledge, Allah has no ability to be a Father, in contrast, Allah can only have a son through Allat.


One of the names of the God of Islam 'Allah' is the kings of King. In Arabic ‘AL-MALEK.' The book of Revelation says on chapter 17 verse 14, "They will make war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings-and with Him will be His called, chosen and faithful followers." Jesus is the King of Kings.


One of the names of the God of Islam ‘Allah' is the Guide-"AL-HADI." Which's English meaning is The Door/Gate. Did Jesus say that He is the Gate? Yes. In the Gospel of John 10;9 tells us Jesus said, " I am the gate; whoever enters through Me will be saved. He will come in and go out, and find pasture."
My second question; Was Jesus Crazy? Mark 3:21; When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, "He is out of his mind."
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One of the names of the God of Islam ‘Allah' is The Light which in Arabic is "Al-NUR." Did Jesus say that He is the Light or He is the AL-NUR? Yes. In the Gospel of John 8;12 says, " I am the Light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." All these verses are clearly proves that Jesus is Allah according to the Koran and no Muslims can deny this truth. (For readers references please check the Gospel of John. 10;9/15;1/6;35 and 10;11).

For these reason I suggest you my dear Muslims make your decision now. Do not leave it for tomorrow. It may be too late. The door for repentance can be shut and you will live in everlasting regret and suffer punishment. Please do not try to knock the back door because you have to come through the front door and that door is Jesus Christ-AL-HADI.
 
Ishmael said:
So, Allah is now the King and the Father of Jesus. The God of the Bible is the Father. Why, do you say Allah has no Son?, if Allah is the same God of the Bible?
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The Bible tells us that God has several Sons, and yet none of them were ever considered God. Old Testament, Job, Chapter 2:1
 Once again the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them.

Ishmael said:
To my knowledge, Allah has no ability to be a Father, in contrast, Allah can only have a son through Allat.
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Qur'an 39: If Allah had intended to take a son, He could have chosen from what He creates whatever He willed. Exalted is He; He is Allah , the One, the Prevailing.



Most Christians think Jesus claimed to be God. Ask most of them who know their Bible, "Where does the Bible say Jesus claimed to be God?
 Even Prophet Muhammad is the Guide Qur'an 17:94-95; And what prevented the people from believing when guidance came to them except that they said, "Has Allah sent a human messenger?"
There are three verses in the Qur'an which mention the Prophet as a light. Qur'an 5:15; Allah said: "From Allah has come to you a Light and a Book manifest." "He [the Prophet] was named a Light because of the clarity of his case and the fact that his Prophecy was made manifest, and also because of the illumination of the hearts of the believers and the knowers of Allah with what he brought."
 
Ndugu yangu, waislam wanaheshimu uhuru wa dini nyengine, muislam hampingi mkristo kuisoma biblia hata kama inapingana na Quran, ukisema waislam wanakashifu wanaposema yesu si mungu ni sawa na kuwambia wasisome Quran. Wanasema yesu si mungu kwa sbb ndivyo Quran inavyosema na wakristo wanasema yesu ni mungu kwa kufuata biblia yao. Kwa hiyo hakuna anayemkashifu mwenzake au wote wanakashifiana. Hata hivyo uchokozi wanaofanyiwa waislam si maandiko ya biblia. Jee biblia inasema kumchora mtume ni sahihi, jee inasema watu kuzuiliwa kuvaa hijab, ni sahihi? Nadhani ni muhmu kuheshimiana Imani ili tuishi kwa usalama. Maswali ya uhuru wa kujieleza yasikiuke haki za wengine. Uhuru wa kweli ni ule usio na madhara kwa wengine vyenginevyo hata wauzaji wa madawa ya kulevya waachiwe tu watumie uhuru wao wa kufanya biashara waipendayo
 
Ndugu Ishmael ikiwa tunatafsiri hivyo kuwa Mungu ni nuru so kila mwenye nuru pia ni Mungu tunakosea. Mfano inasemwa Mungu anaona na anaskia jee kila mwenye sifa hizi atakuwa mungu pia? Kuna sifa unique za Mungu ambazo hawezi kuwa nazo ila Mungu, mfano hazai, hakuzaliwa, hali, halali, haumwi, hafi, hachoki, hadhuriki ....so hata kiumbe akiwa na baadhi ya sifa za mungu kama kuona,kuskia, kuwa nuru,kuwa mfalme....ikiwa kiumbe huyo hana hizi sifa unique hawezi kuwa mungu.
 
Ndugu yangu, waislam wanaheshimu uhuru wa dini nyengine, muislam hampingi mkristo kuisoma biblia hata kama inapingana na Quran, ukisema waislam wanakashifu wanaposema yesu si mungu ni sawa na kuwambia wasisome Quran. Wanasema yesu si mungu kwa sbb ndivyo Quran inavyosema na wakristo wanasema yesu ni mungu kwa kufuata biblia yao. Kwa hiyo hakuna anayemkashifu mwenzake au wote wanakashifiana. Hata hivyo uchokozi wanaofanyiwa waislam si maandiko ya biblia. Jee biblia inasema kumchora mtume ni sahihi, jee inasema watu kuzuiliwa kuvaa hijab, ni sahihi? Nadhani ni muhmu kuheshimiana Imani ili tuishi kwa usalama. Maswali ya uhuru wa kujieleza yasikiuke haki za wengine. Uhuru wa kweli ni ule usio na madhara kwa wengine vyenginevyo hata wauzaji wa madawa ya kulevya waachiwe tu watumie uhuru wao wa kufanya biashara waipendayo
 
Tuko pamoja mkuu.. TENA Isitoshe tukio lenyewe ni tukio la kigaidi!! HAPA ni sawa na ku-justify ugaidi.
Kwanza wamejuaje huyu ni muhammad mpaka wakaamini kuwa ni yeye haswa?
 

Bunch of malarkey
 
You are missing something here. What I mentioned is some of your deity's 99 Names.

1. Jesus was the first one to say that He is AL Malik,
2. Jesus was the first one to say He is Al Nur
etc etc etc

Muhammad never said in the Quran that he is AL Malik, Never said he is AL Nur, Never said he is Al Had, et al. What Muhammad said in the jibrils book is this, he is a Warner and not even a prophet of God.

Jesus has all of God's attributes. Jesus created. Jesus is omniscient, Jesus is omnipresent, Jesus is omnipotent, etc etc. Muhammad is not omniscient, Allah is not omniscient, et al, to wit.
 
Mkuu Adiosamigo, naona bado upo kwenye Game. Jana ulishindwa kuelezea uongo Kwenye Quran kwamba viumbe wote wameumbwa kwa Pair wakati BACTERIA, VIRUS hawakuumbwa kwa pair. Pia nikakwambia habari ya jua kuzama kwenye tope, ukaleta habari ya bahari wakati haijaandikwa

Leo nakuachia hii Assignment nyingine.
Quran inasema kuna nguzo zisizo onekana zimeshikilia mbingu, yaani zamani hawakuwa na knowledge ya Universe, walivyokuwa wanaona wingu wanadhani limeshikiliwa na kitu kutoka chini

Qur'an 13:2

It is Allah who erected the heavens without pillars that you [can] see; then He established Himself above the Throne and made subject the sun and the moon, each running [its course] for a specified term. He arranges [each] matter; He details the signs that you may, of the meeting with your Lord, be certain.
 

Islam is the fastest growing religion in Europe, America, Asia and Africa. Pale Msikiti wa Kichangani kila siku Wakristo wake kwa waume wanaslimu. Chuki haita wasaisaidia chochote, Someni Uislamu muuelewe. Proganda zenu za Ugaidi zinazidi kuwafanya watu wawadharau na kujiunga na Uislamu.
 
lancanshire said:
Basi sawa ngoja tuchore punda tumuite ni mama eltontz naona itakua imekaa poa si hafanani mamayako.
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Kwa mtu ambaye ni positive thinker; ni poa tu kwa sababu hakuna uhusiano wa moja kwa moja na isitoshe sitakuwa peke yangu dunian niliye na jina hilo; kwa hiyo utakuwa unarefer yupi???.
 
Mkuu Adiosamigo hebu kimbia kiongozi wangu maana sioni kama una hoja za msingi zaidi ya kubwabwaja tu,nahisi upeo wako ni mdogo kuenenda na hii mada Kakende anakupiga za uso sana.
 
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Dah!!,nina wasiwasi na akili ya huyu jamaa inawezekana sio mzima khaaa!!
 

Acha kujidanganya wasiokuwa na dini ndio wanazdi kuwa wengi kuliko wenye dini,shetani ndiyo mwenye wafuasi wengi,unajigamba uislam unakuwa wakati mnazaliana sana kwa makusudi mpate wanajeshi wa kupigania jihad na pili ukizaliwa kwenye uislam lazma ufe muislam bila ya hvyo adhabu yake ni kifo,watu wako kwenye uislam kwa sababu ya hofu hakuna kitu kingine,kuslim au kubadilisha dini hyo ni kawaida kwa watu lakn kwenye upande wenu imekuwa shida hapo ndio unapona kuna tatzo kwenye dini,we jipe moyo kuna wakristo wanaslim,hv unavoona hapa Tanzania kuna uislam au waislam,kama ni uislam hapa Tanzania hakuna kuna watu tu wanaojiita waislam na trend inavyoenda kila siku unazidi kupoteza nguvu,kungekuwa na uislam tungeshayaona ya Nigeria
 
Ishmael said:
Bunch of malarkey
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dogo; You're just making excuses to protect that self delusional bubble you live in. Oh, that's hilarious but you come across as very angry, pretty psychotic. What hypocrites, you are so terrified that someone might expose your delusion. Christians are paranoid freaks who are always afraid of the truth.
 
Wakutu said:
Dah!!,nina wasiwasi na akili ya huyu jamaa inawezekana sio mzima khaaa!!
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Hata mungu wenu mmesema hana akili iwe mimi, hebu jisomee mwenyewe hapa bibilia za kiyendawazimu zinasema nini. Marko 3:20-21, [SUP]20 [/SUP]Yesu akarudi nyumbani. Umati wa watu ukamfuata tena, hata yeye na wanafunzi wake wakashindwa kula chakula. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Ndugu zake walipopata habari walikuja kumchukua kwa maana watu walikuwa wakisema, "Amerukwa na akili."
Sijui hii aibu mtaificha wapi, kuna mtu mwenye akili anamuita Mungu wake hana akili, ajabu kweli kweli.
 
Wakutu said:
Mkuu Adiosamigo hebu kimbia kiongozi wangu maana sioni kama una hoja za msingi zaidi ya kubwabwaja tu,nahisi upeo wako ni mdogo kuenenda na hii mada Kakende anakupiga za uso sana.
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Hahaha wacha, nadhani unaota kama dogo Kakende , anaweza kwenda kwa point, kuna maswali yangu anayakimbia. Lakini mimi sijakwepa hata swali lake. Nimewauliza wakristo wote mnasema kwenye bibilia zenu Yesu hana akili, mankimbia hamjibu nimewauliza Yesu mnasema ni shoga kwenye bibilia zenu mnakimbia. Sa we mungu wako vipi awe hana akili na awe shoga? Marko 3:20-21, [SUP]20 [/SUP]Yesu akarudi nyumbani. Umati wa watu ukamfuata tena, hata yeye na wanafunzi wake wakashindwa kula chakula. [SUP]21 [/SUP]Ndugu zake walipopata habari walikuja kumchukua kwa maana watu walikuwa wakisema, "Amerukwa na akili." Tazama pia Yohana 13:23 [SUP]23 [/SUP]Mmoja wa wanafunzi ambaye Yesu alimpenda sana alikuwa amekaa karibu sana na Yesu.
Hapo wanasema huyo mwanafunzi wake alikuwa anapendwa sana na Yesu, tena walikuwa wanalala naye kitanda kimoja. Tazama Marko inasema nini ; Marko 14:52; Kulikuwa na kijana mmoja aliyekuwa anamfuata Yesu akiwa amevaa shuka. Nao wakajaribu kumkamata. 52 Lakini yeye akaponyoka, akaiachilia ile shuka, akakimbia uchi
 
dogo Kakende , nimeisha kujibu maswali yako hakuna nilicho kwepa. Wewe unasema Bacteria, Virus hawakumbwa kwa pair una dallli gani kama hawana pair? Elimu gani walio ifanya mpaa wakathibitisha havina pair? Mara ngapi ma researcher wanapotea step afu baadaye wanakiri wamekosea. Mimi na swali moja tu hapa The bible also says bats are birds, insects have only four legs and rabbits chew cud, hapo mungu wakikristo alirukwa akili au? Did the Bible Writers Commit Biological Blunders?
 
Al Ukhti Al Aziza Fil Islam, Miss Mamu; Hata bibilia zao zinasema Yesu si Mungu, hawa wakristo hawana tu akili ni wagumu wakufahamu na wabishi tu, dalili hi hapa. Matayo 24:36 Lakini, juu ya siku au saa hiyo, hakuna mtu ajuaye itakuja lini; wala malaika wa mbinguni, wala Mwana, ila Baba peke yake ndiye ajuaye 1. Matthew 24:36 No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only. Here Jesus makes a distinction between what he knows and what the God knows.
 
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