No negotiations with FDLR, says US envoy

[WAZIWAZI]

UR Not INFORMED, Nenda kasome tena uelewe.

wewe na ben wako soma hapa alafu mniambie. Huyo Aloys na JK inaonekana wana mawazo yanayofanana na kibinadamu zaidi kukaamezamoja ndio uungwana.


However, Aloys Mahwa, the Executive Director of the Interdisciplinary Genocide Studies Centre (IGSC) in Kigali, believes the proposal of the US sending in troops may not necessarily work, and instead blames the continued presence of the militia to lack of political will from the DRC government and the United Nations.
“We have seen US troops intervene in several countries, but we are yet to see tangible results of their interventions, so we cannot count on that. There are over 20,000 UN peacekeepers in DRC who have not only been reluctant to push out the FDLR, but have decided to let the group operate, which is a sign of lack of will. The US can only support through imposing influence on both the DRC and the UN peacekeepers,” he said.

 

[WAZIWAZI]

Duh..Unapinga msimamo uliotolewa na Marekani?Naona mmeachana na ajenda mnamjadili Ben tu.

nani akujadili wewe sisi tunakuelimisha uwe na mawazo ya kiungwana sio mambo yako ya kutembea na sumu mfukoni ukawadhulu wanaopinga mawazo finyu ya Dj Zero Mbowe.

 

[MtamaMchungu]

Kama ni kupiga kura .Jk ameshindwa Kagema ameshinda kwa kupata kura 2 .Jk ameshindwa kusuluhisha bunge la katiba kwa kutoana jasho .ni sembuse atasuluisha Rwanda waliotoana damu !?

Yote hayo hayaondoi ukweli kuwa vita sio suluhisho la vita. Ni kutengeneza a vicious cycle of violence and vengeance. We unadhani hao FDLR hawana legitimate concerns and interests? Unadhani hawana sympathizers ndani na nje ya Rwanda?

 

[MUKAMASIMBA]

Kwa Vyovyote namini SADC hawapo tayari Kupigana na FDLR , Nadhani ni wakati sasa Wamarekani wenyewe waje Kupigana nao na sio majeshi ya SADC.

Mkuu hapo umeliona kwa uhakika,hawa SADC walikua na mipango mingine kabisa wasingeweza wapiga washirika wao.

 

[JokaKuu]

Mkirua,

..kwenye statement yake Feingold katoa "dozi" kwa Burundi, Congo, na Rwanda.

..kuhusu FDLR amesema wanapaswa ku-surrender mwisho wa mwaka huu vinginevyo watabamizwa. huo pia ndiyo msimamo wa Tanzania, South Africa, Malawi, na jumuiya nzima ya SADC.

..kuhusu FDLR:

Ambassador Feingold said the FDLR must “meet the same fate” as the M23 rebel group and the Alliance of Democratic Forces — two other rebel groups that have operated in the eastern DRC.

..Hapa kawalima Rwanda:

Feingold also expressed concern about political developments inside Rwanda, Burundi and the DRC, saying that while Rwanda can claim very impressive achievements in development and economic growth, the US believes that “respect for human rights and opening space for opposition voices is essential.”

He confirmed that the US has had “candid conversations” with President Paul Kagame regarding Rwanda's record on press freedom and democratic rights, saying the issues were raised in talks with Kagame in Washington on Monday.

..DRC na Kabila nao wamepewa dozi hapa:

The US has also urged DRC President Joseph Kabila to respect the two-term limit enshrined in his country's constitution. US Secretary of State John Kerry reminded President Kabila of that obligation in a meeting in Washington on Monday, but the DRC leader offered no assurance that he would abide by the term limit provision. Mr Kabila's second five-year term is scheduled to end in 2016.

..hizi habari zimetoka kwenye The EastAfrican magazine ambalo ni chombo cha Kenya na Rwanda kuinanga Tanzania. Lakini hata wao the eatafrican wameshindwa kufukia-fukia kwa niaba ya Rwanda kama ilivyo ada yao. Sasa wakina Ben Saanane, naomba mnionyeshe ni wapi Feingold au Marekani amekwenda kinyume na msimamo wa JK, Tanzania, au SADC, kuhusu suluhisho la mgogoro wa DRC?

cc jMali, MUKAMASIMBA, Demarco

 

[masopakyindi]

Ben Saanane JK alishauri kwamba Rwanda na Uganda waangalie namna ya kuzungumza na waasi wa serikali zao waone namna ya kumaliza migogoro inayowakumba,hakuna sehemu JK aliwahisema kuwa FDRL wasiwe disarmed. Sasa kama marekani inasema kuwa hakuna room for negotiation ni Marekani yenyewe.Lakini kumbuka mgogoro wa DRC ni mgogoro ambao chimbuko lake ni la Wamarekani wenyewe baada ya kumsapoti Kagame kuipindua serikali ya Rwanda.Kwa hiyo Marekani inauma na kupuliza.Katiak watu ambao siwaamini ni wamarekani.

Not only that, if there is any track record of American success in solving regional conflicts( and igniting some for self interest) , try Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Libya and now Israel-Gaza.

Taliking to your enemy is the best way to solve the problems amicably.

 

[nyumba kubwa]

Huwezi jua...inawezekana hii peace ilopatikana DRC recently ime iafect US...wanataka kurikoroga tena wafaidike na madini ya uwizi...

Seeking reconciliation is the only way towards lasting peace, not extermination. After all, sio kila anchosema mzungu ni sahihi

 

[nyumba kubwa]

Hata mimi nimejaribu kusoma sijaona kama hiyo heading in reflect kilichoandikwa...nikasema labda nimesoma speed...

sana sana wamewa quote ma professor wa Rwanda ambao wanajua wakipinga msimamo wa bosi wao nini kitafuata...

Mkirua,

..kwenye statement yake Feingold katoa "dozi" kwa Burundi, Congo, na Rwanda.

..kuhusu FDLR amesema wanapaswa ku-surrender mwisho wa mwaka huu vinginevyo watabamizwa. huo pia ndiyo msimamo wa Tanzania, South Africa, Malawi, na jumuiya nzima ya SADC.

..kuhusu FDLR:



..Hapa kawalima Rwanda:


..DRC na Kabila nao wamepewa dozi hapa:


..hizi habari zimetoka kwenye The EastAfrican magazine ambalo ni chombo cha Kenya na Rwanda kuinanga Tanzania. Lakini hata wao the eatafrican wameshindwa kufukia-fukia kwa niaba ya Rwanda kama ilivyo ada yao. Sasa wakina Ben Saanane, naomba mnionyeshe ni wapi Feingold au Marekani amekwenda kinyume na msimamo wa JK, Tanzania, au SADC, kuhusu suluhisho la mgogoro wa DRC?

cc jMali, MUKAMASIMBA, Demarco

 

[MtamaMchungu]

Huwezi jua...inawezekana hii peace ilopatikana DRC recently ime iafect US...wanataka kurikoroga tena wafaidike na madini ya uwizi...

Very likely, hawa jamaa mkiwa mmesimama imara hawataki kabisa. Wanataka muwe ukingoni mwa kufeli ila msifeli kabisa

 

[Demarco]

The EastAfrican
From: http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/new...s-in-DRC/-/2558/2410238/-/qis987/-/index.html

By Kevin J Kelley, Special Correspondent

Posted Wednesday, August 6 2014 at 10:06
IN SUMMARY
Feingold also expressed concern about political developments inside Rwanda, Burundi and the DRC.

Rwandan rebels responsible for the 1994 genocide must surrender by year's end or face “military action,” the US warned on Tuesday.
“There is a tremendous need to finish off the FDLR,” said Russell Feingold, US special envoy for the Great Lakes region. He was using the French acronym for the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda, which has been carrying out atrocities in the eastern Democratic REPUBLIC OF CONGO (DRC) since being forced out of Rwanda 20 years ago.
Ambassador Feingold said the FDLR must “meet the same fate” as the M23 rebel group and the Alliance of Democratic Forces — two other rebel groups that have operated in the eastern DRC.

M23, which the United Nations and DRC have accused Rwanda of supporting, was defeated earlier this year by “a combination of military and diplomatic efforts,” the envoy noted. A United Nations-sponsored combat brigade deployed in eastern DRC is credited with routing M23 on the battlefield. Bosco Ntaganda, the Congolese warlord from the rebel group surrendered himself for prosecution at theINTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT (ICC) in March 2013.

READ: Uganda has stopped aid to M23, but Rwanda continues, UN says
The Alliance of Democratic Forces, originally comprised of Ugandans seeking to overthrow President Yoweri Museveni's government, “has been significantly diminished,” Feingold added. He offered a guardedly optimistic overall appraisal of developments in the DRC since taking up his portfolio in June 2013.

READ: Peace in DRC elusive as armed groups still thrive
“The situation in eastern Congo has been difficult and remains difficult but it is somewhat better than a year ago,” he said at a press briefing on the sidelines of the US-Africa summit. He said that FDLR fighters would be given a chance to demobilise, but that there had to be “significant surrenders in the near future or the military option must be exercised."

READ: Confusion clouds reports of FDLR ‘surrender’
Feingold also expressed concern about political developments inside Rwanda, Burundi and the DRC, saying that while Rwanda can claim very impressive achievements in development and economic growth, the US believes that “respect for human rights and opening space for opposition voices is essential.”
He confirmed that the US has had “candid conversations” with President Paul Kagame regarding Rwanda's record on press freedom and democratic rights, saying the issues were raised in talks with Kagame inWASHINGTON on Monday.
The US has also urged DRC President Joseph Kabila to respect the two-term limit enshrined in his country's constitution. US Secretary of State John Kerry reminded President Kabila of that obligation in a meeting in Washington on Monday, but the DRC leader offered no assurance that he would abide by the term limit provision. Mr Kabila's second five-year term is scheduled to end in 2016.
Feingold also offered an assessment of political conditions in Burundi that was similar to his comments on Rwanda. “We have seen progress over the years after some extremely tragic events,” he told reporters. But he also pointed to “growing CONSTRICTION of political space” in the run-up to national elections scheduled for next year.

 

[Demarco]

Kwenye EastAfrican paper
Feingold also expressed concern about political developments inside Rwanda, Burundi and the DRC, saying that while Rwanda can claim very impressive achievements in development and economic growth, the US believes that "respect for human rights and opening space for opposition voices is essential."

Hii kitu tunaongelea hapa mara kadha wa kadha.

He confirmed that the US has had "candid conversations" with President Paul Kagame regarding Rwanda's record on press freedom and democratic rights, saying the issues were raised in talks with Kagame inWASHINGTON on Monday
Kwa hiyo issue ilitiliwa msisitizo na Uongozi wa Obama more likely Obama mwenyewe. Hizi issue zimekuwa zikisemwa hapa sana Rwanda hakuna platform ya uhuru wa habari.Nchi zetu bado mbichi ila tunatakiwa kujitahidi Tanzania kwa kiasi fulani uhuru wa habari upo japo kuwa haujakomaa kwa kiasi kikubwa ,ila hawa wezetu Rwanda uhuru wa habari na wapinzani ni mdogo sana .

The US has also urged DRC President Joseph Kabila to respect the two-term limit enshrined in his country's constitution. US Secretary of State John Kerry reminded President Kabila of that obligation in a meeting in Washington on Monday, but the DRC leader offered no assurance that he would abide by the term limit provision. Mr Kabila's second five-year term is scheduled to end in 2016.

Hahahaaaaa hili sijuhi kwa nini wamesema kwa Kabila tuu...naona waliwalenga wote wanaomaliza muda wa vipindi viwili wasiote kuongeza muda kama katiba zao zinasema two terms only.Hapa yuko Kagame ,Kikwete na wengineo...


Kuhusu FDLR nadhani ndio msimamo wa Tanzania,na SADC kwa ujumla .
Ila Issue ya FDLR na M23 sidhani kama zinafanana sana..kumbuka Congo walikuwa wakitaka kuwadhibiti M23 wenye silaha nchini kwao na Tanzania ,South Africa na UN wakatoa msaada.Kwa upande wa FDLR wanataka kurudi Rwanda kwao washiriki maendeleo ama siasa za kwao ,of course lazima waweke silaha chini ,lazima pia waamini watakuwa salama na hii inawezekana vipi bila mazungumzo?hapa ndipo napo stuck mimi naomba mtu anielezee...maana Kagame mwenyewe alishika mtutu kupata madaraka ...

 

[LEOMWANA]

I think the US is looking forward to more instability in the region, maybe they are targeting the period when the heads of Tanzania,DRC and Rwanda will be changing their madaraka. The US should let talks lead and not violence; afterall the US has failed in many countries with similar problems.

 

[JustDoItNow]

Ben Saanane JK alishauri kwamba Rwanda na Uganda waangalie namna ya kuzungumza na waasi wa serikali zao waone namna ya kumaliza migogoro inayowakumba,hakuna sehemu JK aliwahisema kuwa FDRL wasiwe disarmed. Sasa kama marekani inasema kuwa hakuna room for negotiation ni Marekani yenyewe.Lakini kumbuka mgogoro wa DRC ni mgogoro ambao chimbuko lake ni la Wamarekani wenyewe baada ya kumsapoti Kagame kuipindua serikali ya Rwanda.Kwa hiyo Marekani inauma na kupuliza.Katiak watu ambao siwaamini ni wamarekani.

Marekani ni mashetani tu. hawana maana hata kidogo. Na wewe subiri putin kawashika pabaya sana. China naye kashamuona hana maana.

 

[JustDoItNow]

I think the US is looking forward to more instability in the region, maybe they are targeting the period when the heads of Tanzania,DRC and Rwanda will be changing their madaraka. The US should let talks lead and not violence; afterall the US has failed in many countries with similar problems.

Alafu kuna mijitu mingine humu haitumii akili. Hawajiulizi kila sehemu marekani anaposema naleta amani na demokrasia ni balaa tu. Shetani mkubwa marekani

 

[MANYEMA2013]

JK aje aseme sasa

acha cheap popularity.....acha majibu ya jumla.......umekurupuka.

 

[MANYEMA2013]

Tuache kuwa vilaza...tunafurahia nn sasa.

marekani hao hao wamekaribisha mazungumzo na al qaeda......

kusapoti hii post ni ujinga ni kusapoti kuendelea kwa vita africa

 

[simplemind]

Tusubiri amri ya wakubwa kupitia UN kupeleka jwtz kupambana na fdlr.

 

[MANYEMA2013]

JK aje aseme sasa

Tuache kuwa vilaza...tunafurahia nn sasa.

marekani hao hao wamekaribisha mazungumzo na al qaeda......

kusapoti hii post ni ujinga ni kusapoti kuendelea kwa vita africa

 

[bornagain]

Marekani ni mashetani tu. hawana maana hata kidogo. Na wewe subiri putin kawashika pabaya sana. China naye kashamuona hana maana.

Yaani hawa Wamarekani ndiyo wanaoleta matatizo dunia nzima,marais wa Africa wameitwa kunywa chai na Obama ili tu waendelee kunyonywa na sera za kiwiziwizi za Marekani na pia Wamarekani wanaogopa kasi kubwa ya nchi za Africa kufanya ushirikiano na nchi za China

 

[kdc]

JK aje aseme sasa

Duh!!! Umeelewa lakini?