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Tony254 · Oct 31, 2020

The best 007 said:
Msaidie mwenzako mniambie ina uwezo wa kubeba watu wangapi hiyo stadium yenu yenye jukwaa moja [emoji3][emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]

Tatizo sio idadi ya jukwaa tatizo ni capacity ya jukwaa. Nyie mnaweza hata kuwa na jukwaa kumi na sisi tuwe na moja na stadium yetu ibebe watu wengi kuwashinda. Kwa hivyo wacha kusema eti yenu ina jukwaa mbili. That doesn't matter. Wewe leta capacity ya hio swimming pool yenu. Najua inabeba watu mia moja.

Kasarani aquatic stadium inabeba 2,000 people bila kufinyana kulingana na bodi inayosimamia stadia zote hapa Kenya.

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Nyayo National Stadium

Strategically located at the Uhuru highway, Langata and Aerodrome roads junction, this home of champions is a multipurpose sports complex consisting the Main Stadium, an Indoor Arena, a Handball court and an Aquatic Centre.

i) Main Stadium

Main Features

30,000 seater

FIFA approved standard size football pitch – home to several national and international matches

Hosts large gatherings, including concerts, national celebrations, meetings and crusades

2 VIP lounges, a boardroom

Internet enabled media centre.

Floodlights for night events

b) Aquatic Centre

Main Features:

Spectator terraces for 2000 pax

50 x 25 m Swimming pool

Open to Public all week

Trained lifeguards

c) Indoor Gymnasium

Main features

2500 capacity

Snack bars are within the gymnasium

Fully covered indoor arena and can host:

Basketball
Boxing
Badminton
Martial arts
Social functions
Any other indoor games

Computerized scoreboards

Floodlights

d) Handball and Volleyball Training Courts

Main features

Terraces for 1500 capacity

Standard Open air Court– Ideal for training

Available for both sporting and social events

Ndio hii link:

Nyayo National Stadium

www.sportskenya.org

Nyie hamna aquatic stadium. Kubali yaishe.
Halafu pia nina swali. Nyie mna handball and volleyball training courts? Kama mnayo basi tupe capacity ya hio court kwa sababu yetu ni 1,500 people.

Halafu mna indoor gymnasium ambayo kunachezwa basketball, badminton? Kama mnayo tupe capacity yake. Yetu ina capacity ya 2,500. Kubali hamna yaishe. Kama mnayo weka evidence kama vile mimi nimeweka. Hii sijaitoa kwenye Wikipedia, hii imetoka direct from bodi ya serikali inayosimamia stadia zote Kenya. Mimi nimeweka evidence, wewe weka yako wacha. Usisongeze goal post.

The best 007 · Oct 31, 2020

Tony254 said:
Tatizo sio idadi ya jukwaa tatizo ni capacity ya jukwaa. Nyie mnaweza hata kuwa na jukwaa kumi na sisi tuwe na moja na stadium yetu ibebe watu wengi kuwashinda. Kwa hivyo wacha kusema eti yenu ina jukwaa mbili. That doesn't matter. Wewe leta capacity ya hio swimming pool yenu. Najua inabeba watu mia moja.

Kasarani aquatic stadium inabeba 2,000 people bila kufinyana kulingana na bodi inayosimamia stadia zote hapa Kenya.

Our Facilities
Nyayo National Stadium
Category: Facilities

Nyayo National Stadium

Strategically located at the Uhuru highway, Langata and Aerodrome roads junction, this home of champions is a multipurpose sports complex consisting the Main Stadium, an Indoor Arena, a Handball court and an Aquatic Centre.

i) Main Stadium

Main Features

30,000 seater

FIFA approved standard size football pitch – home to several national and international matches

Hosts large gatherings, including concerts, national celebrations, meetings and crusades

2 VIP lounges, a boardroom

Internet enabled media centre.

Floodlights for night events

b) Aquatic Centre

Main Features:

Spectator terraces for 2000 pax

50 x 25 m Swimming pool

Open to Public all week

Trained lifeguards

c) Indoor Gymnasium

Main features

2500 capacity

Snack bars are within the gymnasium

Fully covered indoor arena and can host:

Basketball

Boxing

Badminton

Martial arts

Social functions

Any other indoor games

Computerized scoreboards

Floodlights

d) Handball and Volleyball Training Courts

Main features

Terraces for 1500 capacity

Standard Open air Court– Ideal for training

Available for both sporting and social events

Ndio hii link:

Nyayo National Stadium

www.sportskenya.org

Nyie hamna aquatic stadium. Kubali yaishe.
Halafu pia nina swali. Nyie mna handball and volleyball training courts? Kama mnayo basi tupe capacity ya hio court kwa sababu yetu ni 1,500 people.

Halafu mna indoor gymnasium ambayo kunachezwa basketball, badminton? Kama mnayo tupe capacity yake. Yetu ina capacity ya 2,500. Kubali hamna yaishe. Kama mnayo weka evidence kama vile mimi nimeweka. Hii sijaitoa kwenye Wikipedia, hii imetoka direct from bodi ya serikali inayosimamia stadia zote Kenya. Mimi nimeweka evidence, wewe weka yako wacha. Usisongeze goal post.

Tumalizane hapa kwnz , naomba umwambie dada yenu Teargass kwmb hyo pool yenu yenye jukwaa moja haina capacity ya 5k seats zen tuendelee niwapige sindano zengine, mana km mtaendelea kuongopa hv ctakuwa na haja ya kudiscuss upuuzi huu [emoji116][emoji116]

Teargass said:
Sema tu hujui maana ya aquatic stadium ufundishwe. This one here is the only aquatic stadium in East and Central Africa with a capacity of 5,000 seats.
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The best 007 · Oct 31, 2020

Hiki hapa ni kijiji cha michezo yn michezo yote iko hapo, show me kijiji cha michezo huko kunako nchi kame yenye njaa [emoji116][emoji116][emoji3][emoji3]

The best 007 · Oct 31, 2020

The best 007 said:
Hiki hapa ni kijiji cha michezo yn michezo yote iko hapo, show me kijiji cha michezo huko kunako nchi kame yenye njaa [emoji116][emoji116][emoji3][emoji3]View attachment 1616413 View attachment 1616414

Only in Tanzania [emoji121][emoji121][emoji3][emoji3][emoji3]

Tony254 · Oct 31, 2020

The best 007 said:
Tumalizane hapa kwnz , naomba umwambie dada yenu Teargass kwmb hyo pool yenu yenye jukwaa moja haina capacity ya 5k seats zen tuendelee niwapige sindano zengine, mana km mtaendelea kuongopa hv ctakuwa na haja ya kudiscuss upuuzi huu [emoji116][emoji116]

Hii ni debate ya facts. Mimi nimekuwekea facts kutoka direct from website ya bodi ya serikali inayo manage stadia zote Kenya. Nimeprove capacity ya Aquatic stadium yetu, nimekuwekea hadi link. Sasa wewe leta evidence ya capacity ya hio swimming pool yenu. Sitakubali ubadilishe goal post. Ulisema infrastructure yoyote ambayo iko Kenya lazima Iwe Tanzania. Sasa weka evidence au ukubali kushindwa maana sijawahi kukuona ukikubali kushindwa. Wewe unakuanga correct kila siku.

Tony254 · Oct 31, 2020

Tony254 said:
Geza Ulole hii interview ya Kenyan transport secretary ambayo imefanyika hii wiki, is very informative kuhusu strategies zinazotumika kupunguza jam Nairobi

Geza Ulole baada ya kutazama hio hapo juu unaweza kutazama hii pia ukipata muda. Huyu jamaa anafanya mambo

Geza Ulole · Oct 31, 2020

Tony254 said:
Geza Ulole baada ya kutazama hio hapo juu unaweza kutazama hii pia ukipata muda. Huyu jamaa anafanya mambo

Good plans but most of them r overcharged, the reason their procurement is never open. For instance just like ur SGR, ur express highway is too expensive in comparison to similar projects around the World!

I am trying to figure out how much did ur used DMUs cost unfortunately it is extremely hard to do a comparison as that deal has few comparison! Will u bring up the French deal for comparison as u mentioned of them doing the same!

BTW I laughed to see ur NAMATA AG avoiding a comparison of Nairobi BRT to Dar BRT, can u also enlight me more on ur BRT as I heard line 3 (no km mentioned) is to cost over Kshs 40 bln with electric buses! really?

Nicxie · Oct 31, 2020

The best 007 said:
Kwasababu ww ni mkenya basi upumbavu umeumbiwa ngj nikuache na ujinga wako wa kufosi fosi mambo ila ukweli unaujua endelea kupingana na ukweli mpuuzi we.

Eti capacity ya 5000, ukiniletea ushahidi wa hyo pool yenye jukwaa moja kuingiza watu 5k natoka Jf fala wee.

Tuletee yenu yenye inaingiza watu elfu hata moja

Tony254 · Oct 31, 2020

Geza Ulole said:
Good plans but most of them r overcharged, the reason their procurement is never open. For instance just like ur SGR, ur express highway is too expensive in comparison to similar projects around the World! I am trying to figure out how much did ur used DMUs cost unfortunately it is had to do a comparison as that deal has few comparison! Will u bring up the French deal for comparison as u mentioned of them doing the same! laughed to see ur NAMATA AG avoiding a comparison of Nairobi BRT to Dar BRT, can u also enlight me more on ur BRT?

UR BRT is miles ahead of ours and that is why he did not want to compare our BRT with your BRT.

We have already started constructing BRT paved road on a pilot basis. The pilot will be a few kilometres long. I don't know the exact number of kilometres though. You can hear them talking about it several times in that interview. It will start from Clayworks (which is in Thika road) and will end in Kenyatta National Hospital (in Upperhill). Construction started one or two months ago. Construction will end in June next year. If you go to Thika road right now, you will see construction going on.

Geza Ulole · Oct 31, 2020

Tony254 said:
UR BRT is miles ahead of ours and that is why he did not want to compare our BRT with your BRT.

We have already started constructing BRT paved road on a pilot basis. The pilot will be a few kilometres long. I don't know the exact number of kilometres though. You can hear them talking about it several times in that interview. It will start from Clayworks (which is in Thika road) and will end in Kenyatta National Hospital (in Upperhill). Construction started one or two months ago. Construction will end in June next year. If you go to Thika road right now, you will see construction going on.

I find Kshs 40bln for a 20km Line 3 to be damn expensive! Unless it will have metro trains/trams too running parallel to BRT lane! Sijui huwa mnakosea wapi!

In comparison to our Dar BRT phase II

Dar es Salaam — China Civil Engineering and Construction Corporation has been awarded a tender to construct a $160 million second phase Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) project.

Construction of the 20.3km road would include two flyovers of 24m width and length of 150m each, 29 bus terminals, a control centre and a garage.

The project is expected to start this month and will be completed in 36 months.

Tanzania: Chinese Firm Wins U.S.$160m Tender for Phase 2 of BRT

China Civil Engineering and Construction Corporation has been awarded a tender to construct a $160 million second phase Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) project.

allafrica.com

Nicxie · Oct 31, 2020

Kevin85ify said:
The DMUs an inside look included.

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Renovation of foot bridges and paths leading to Nairobi central station in the CBD

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This place was an eyesore and chaotic. Thank God someone has given it the attention it desperately needed. Long overdue

BlietzKrieg · Oct 31, 2020

Tony254 said:
Tatizo sio idadi ya jukwaa tatizo ni capacity ya jukwaa. Nyie mnaweza hata kuwa na jukwaa kumi na sisi tuwe na moja na stadium yetu ibebe watu wengi kuwashinda. Kwa hivyo wacha kusema eti yenu ina jukwaa mbili. That doesn't matter. Wewe leta capacity ya hio swimming pool yenu. Najua inabeba watu mia moja.

Kasarani aquatic stadium inabeba 2,000 people bila kufinyana kulingana na bodi inayosimamia stadia zote hapa Kenya.

Our Facilities
Nyayo National Stadium
Category: Facilities

Nyayo National Stadium

Strategically located at the Uhuru highway, Langata and Aerodrome roads junction, this home of champions is a multipurpose sports complex consisting the Main Stadium, an Indoor Arena, a Handball court and an Aquatic Centre.

i) Main Stadium

Main Features

30,000 seater

FIFA approved standard size football pitch – home to several national and international matches

Hosts large gatherings, including concerts, national celebrations, meetings and crusades

2 VIP lounges, a boardroom

Internet enabled media centre.

Floodlights for night events

b) Aquatic Centre

Main Features:

Spectator terraces for 2000 pax

50 x 25 m Swimming pool

Open to Public all week

Trained lifeguards

c) Indoor Gymnasium

Main features

2500 capacity

Snack bars are within the gymnasium

Fully covered indoor arena and can host:

Basketball

Boxing

Badminton

Martial arts

Social functions

Any other indoor games

Computerized scoreboards

Floodlights

d) Handball and Volleyball Training Courts

Main features

Terraces for 1500 capacity

Standard Open air Court– Ideal for training

Available for both sporting and social events

Ndio hii link:

Nyayo National Stadium

www.sportskenya.org

Nyie hamna aquatic stadium. Kubali yaishe.
Halafu pia nina swali. Nyie mna handball and volleyball training courts? Kama mnayo basi tupe capacity ya hio court kwa sababu yetu ni 1,500 people.

Halafu mna indoor gymnasium ambayo kunachezwa basketball, badminton? Kama mnayo tupe capacity yake. Yetu ina capacity ya 2,500. Kubali hamna yaishe. Kama mnayo weka evidence kama vile mimi nimeweka. Hii sijaitoa kwenye Wikipedia, hii imetoka direct from bodi ya serikali inayosimamia stadia zote Kenya. Mimi nimeweka evidence, wewe weka yako wacha. Usisongeze goal post.

Wacha kuchanganya kasarani na nyanyo,
Nyanyo has 2k
Kasarani 5k

Tony254 · Oct 31, 2020

Geza Ulole said:
I find Kshs 40bln for a 20km Line 3 is too expensive!

Yes. It is expensive. He gave two reasons for that. You can go again and confirm whether he actually said it. I don't know whether these reasons are reasonable to you or not.
1. He said it is a green field project meaning construction starts from scratch while the current one (the pilot one) is being constructed ontop of an existing road. Was your BRT green-field?
2. He said this line 3 will use electric buses. This means that electric poles have to be installed along the road. I have lived in a city in Europe that used electric buses on their BRT and there are overhead electric wires along the road and then there is a wire coming from the bus and attaching on the overhead electric wires. So the infrastructure could be expensive. Also he said the cost of the buses were already factored in that ballpark figure. He said we will save money longterm because electric buses are cheaper to run longterm. If it happens, we will be one of the first African countries to run an electric BRT bus.

Go back and listen, maybe I got it wrong. What do you think about that explanation?

Tony254 · Oct 31, 2020

BlietzKrieg said:
Wacha kuchanganya kasarani na nyanyo,
Nyanyo has 2k
Kasarani 5k

Poa. I didn't know.

Geza Ulole · Oct 31, 2020

Tony254 said:
Yes. It is expensive. He gave two reasons for that. You can go again and confirm whether he actually said it. I don't know whether these reasons are reasonable to you or not.
1. He said it is a green field project meaning construction starts from scratch while the current one (the pilot one) is being constructed ontop of an existing road. Was your BRT green-field?
2. He said this line 3 will use electric buses. This means that electric poles have to be installed along the road. I have lived in a city in Europe that used electric buses on their BRT and there are overhead electric wires along the road and then there is a wire coming from the bus and attaching on the overhead electric wires. So the infrastructure could be expensive. Also he said the cost of the buses were already factored in that ballpark figure. He said we will save money longterm because electric buses are cheaper to run longterm. If it happens, we will be one of the first African countries to run an electric BRT bus.

Go back and listen, maybe I got it wrong. What do you think about that explanation?

But why electric poles on a bus? That's old technology for buses, why not having charging points at start and end of the route just like the way it is being done in Western countries? Power storage in battery electric buses has so much advanced! Did this guys really go around the World on a benchmarking tour?

But even if u r building from the scratch i find the cost to be inflated unless u r to have 4 lanes BRT! Get me the specifics, how many flyovers is the BRT line 3 to have n how many lanes will this line 3 have? Muwe at least mnachunguza hii maneno! At $400 mln JPM can build u over 50km of a BRT!

Smart911 · Oct 31, 2020

Jitahidini majirani...

Cc: mahondaw

Tony254 · Oct 31, 2020

Geza Ulole said:
But why electric poles on a bus? That's old technology for buses, why not having charging points at start and end of the route just like the way it is being done in Western countries? Power storage in battery electric buses has so much advanced! Did this guys really go around the World on a benchmarking tour?

But even if u r building from the scratch i find the cost to be inflated unless u r to have 4 lanes BRT! Get me the specifics, how many flyovers is the BRT line 3 to have n how many lanes will this line 3 have? Muwe at least mnachunguza hii maneno! At $400 mln JPM can build u over 50km of a BRT!

He said the plan is under review. Wacha itoke tutaona.

Geza Ulole · Oct 31, 2020

Tony254 said:
He said the plan is under review. Wacha itoke tutaona.

Wacha hio maneno ame-indicate the price will only go up with that pending revision! Labda kama bus stops zenu zitakuwa kama za SGR as though unnecessary for an efficient BRT, but who knows? pretty possible in Kenya! Yaani mnaenda kuchezwa!

Kevin85ify · Oct 31, 2020

General Badi (On JK Live): We will soon have commuter trains in all directions of Nairobi metropolitan. In the next two years we plan to move 2.9 million commuters monthly. The commuter rail will be the backbone of transport in Nairobi all others will only support the commuter rail.

Teargass · Oct 31, 2020

The best 007 said:
Mbn ninyi watu ni wajinga hivi, sasa hilo c ni jina tu ukiamua unaweza ita vyovyote but quality ni ile ile, hiyo pool yenu ya jukwaa moja imehost mashindano gani ya kimataifa? Ok nasubiri mniambie ina accommodate watu wangapi ili nijue hyo ni stadium au ni utopolo, niambie ina capacity gn wapuuzi nyie, mnaita ita majina vitu bila kujua maana yake, nimewaambia yetu ina jukwaa mbili maana yake ina uwezo wa ku accommodate spectators wengi kuliko yenu, ss mniambie yenu ina capacity gn?

I think your question on the international games it has hosted has been well answered by your country people.

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