Muslim Brotherhood: 'Beating Them is the Only Way'...


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Reports from Egypt are beginning to take on a strange William Shirer “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” quality. It’s hard not to see certain similarities between the pre-Morsi Egypt and Weimar Germany where gangs of street thugs mobilized under a fanatical movement seized power and went on to murder millions. The street clashes in Egypt echo some of the German street violence between the right and the left that accompanied the rise of Hitler. And it doesn’t help that the Muslim Brotherhood was inspired and financed by Nazi Germany.


This report takes us into the ranks of the Muslim Brotherhood’s thug brigades. Perhaps the equivalent of the SA. And gives us a snapshot of the Muslim Brotherhood’s ground operation.

Inside the Muslim Brotherhood's Thug Brigades: "They Look Strange. Beating Them is the Only Way"
 
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Morsi is a political fool.

He is shooting himself in the foot, thinking that he is appeasing his Muslim radicals that supported him to rise to power.
Egyptians are basically a very complicated society, and it is now clear that Morsi will go down, and very soon, if at all he clings to a fanatical religious gang of his Muslim Brotherhood zealots.

He is now making the same mistake that Mubarak did,depending on the Military to quell unrest and opposition.
Sooner than later people will start to get killed, and thats when Morsi's head will be sought for by his own people.
 
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Morsi is not a fool...but i think egyptions are becoming fool.
No matter what is done there is going to be trouble there.
 
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Morsi is not a fool...but i think egyptions are becoming fool.
No matter what is done there is going to be trouble there.
I insist gentleman, Morsi is not only a fool, but stupid as well.
He does not seem to have grasped the essence of the "peoples" revolution last year that toppled Mubaraks' dynasty.

The main mistakes that he has made for himself are as follows
  • he had wanted to decree more executive powers on himself
  • he has closed himself in and listens only to his most loyal adivisers, the Muslim brotherhood
  • he had wanted to pass through by force a referendum meant to consolidate his powers to rule
  • he has aggrieved the dis advantaged groups in Egyptian society ie women and religious minorities
  • he has attemted to trounce democracy by sidelining the judiciary, and having the ideas of establishing the Islamic Sharia
  • he has, like Mubarak, leaned strongly on the military to stave off the wave of mass discontent against his still nascent rule, making him further unpopular
Morsi's legacy is extinct even before it started.
 
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Morsi is a political fool.

He is shooting himself in the foot, thinking that he is appeasing his Muslim radicals that supported him to rise to power.
Egyptians are basically a very complicated society, and it is now clear that Morsi will go down, and very soon, if at all he clings to a fanatical religious gang of his Muslim Brotherhood zealots.

He is now making the same mistake that Mubarak did,depending on the Military to quell unrest and opposition.
Sooner than later people will start to get killed, and thats when Morsi's head will be sought for by his own people.
You have so far missed and inshaAllah go on to miss the whole point, unless just innocently do not understand what is really going on.

So far majority of Egyptians have just been patient with these thugs who try to stop and protest anything that lead to establish an Islamic state democratically. If you remember:

1. Using military and judiciary (remaining CIA hands in Egypt) they illegally dissolved the democratically elected parliament. That was their fist step to try stopping the first pillar of the incoming Islamic state of Egypt. Mursi tactically defeated them by not protesting that and saved lives.
2. Same military and judiciary engaged in a covert attempts to try to rig the election which was out-rightly won by Mursi (Muslim brotherhood). They tried to delay the results while provoking muslims with the no. 1 above trick (dissolving the parliament). No one reacted, no chaos, but people checked every step they took. They could not hide, they had to announce results. Second pillar of the state was erected toward establishing an Islamic state of Egypt.
3. Third pillar of the state (this time an Islamic state of Egypt) is being erected, the constitution has been democratically (majority rule)drafted ready for the referendum next Saturday. They know and their masters CIA know that it is legitimate and they can not stop it except by:
a) Using military and or judiciary (remaining CIA hand) and therefore Mursi attempt was just to step in and block them was to protect and ensure the legitimate and democratic process takes it cause, nothing else. Check the history above. They did and continue doing this tricks even in Turkey.
b) Using chaos as we are witnessing now. They put claim after ridiculous claim without due care of human life. They started that oooh! Mursi has taken all powers to himself, and when Mursi let that go, they are still not happy, oooh why six people have died, Mursi killed them and therefore had to go!!! ridiculous after ridiculous claims.

All these is try to block the establishment of an Islamic state of Egypt, nothing else.

Do you know what next pillars to be transformed?? it is the judiciary and then military

May Allah SW allow this to happen. What is amazing in all this is that our true christian brothers/cousins do not understand that their religion is more protected under Islam than in any other way of life.
 
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You have so far missed and inshaAllah go on to miss the whole point, unless just innocently do not understand what is really going on.

So far majority of Egyptians have just been patient with these thugs who try to stop and protest anything that lead to establish an Islamic state democratically. If you remember:

1. Using military and judiciary (remaining CIA hands in Egypt) they illegally dissolved the democratically elected parliament. That was their fist step to try stopping the first pillar of the incoming Islamic state of Egypt. Mursi tactically defeated them by not protesting that and saved lives.
2. Same military and judiciary engaged in a covert attempts to try to rig the election which was out-rightly won by Mursi (Muslim brotherhood). They tried to delay the results while provoking muslims with the no. 1 above trick (dissolving the parliament). No one reacted, no chaos, but people checked every step they took. They could not hide, they had to announce results. Second pillar of the state was erected toward establishing an Islamic state of Egypt.
3. Third pillar of the state (this time an Islamic state of Egypt) is being erected, the constitution has been democratically (majority rule)drafted ready for the referendum next Saturday. They know and their masters CIA know that it is legitimate and they can not stop it except by:
a) Using military and or judiciary (remaining CIA hand) and therefore Mursi attempt was just to step in and block them was to protect and ensure the legitimate and democratic process takes it cause, nothing else. Check the history above. They did and continue doing this tricks even in Turkey.
b) Using chaos as we are witnessing now. They put claim after ridiculous claim without due care of human life. They started that oooh! Mursi has taken all powers to himself, and when Mursi let that go, they are still not happy, oooh why six people have died, Mursi killed them and therefore had to go!!! ridiculous after ridiculous claims.

All these is try to block the establishment of an Islamic state of Egypt, nothing else.

Do you know what next pillars to be transformed?? it is the judiciary and then military

May Allah SW allow this to happen. What is amazing in all this is that our true christian brothers/cousins do not understand that their religion is more protected under Islam than in any other way of life.
Please answer me , why Morsi is using the army to protect his power(not the Muslim Brotherhood) if he was so popular!
 
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Morsi, what exactly do you want?
 
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He came into power through religious fanaticism. Now the fanatics are coming back to their senses. He has started to Assad them
 
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Please answer me , why Morsi is using the army to protect his power(not the Muslim Brotherhood) if he was so popular!
Simple, the judiciary and the army are next in this transformation. So the army is transfroming itself to protect the nation as it transforms toward establishing an islamic state of Egypt, and your suggestion that they protect Muhammed Mursi as such they used to be used to protect Mubarak by the CIA, is absolutely not true to a farcical magnitude.

Are you aware that there was also a conter-protest march by Muslims (Muslim brotherhood) which was attended by about two million people which probably you are not shown in your manipulative TV screens? This was just a tip of the iceberg if compared by a few of about ten thousand even if they fill up your TV screens and kept repeated every 10 minutes. It is stil few of about 10 thousands who will eventually one day regret (if they are truthful) when Islam is established and provide protection and the walfare to all including them who protest and conspire against its establishment.

What does popularity mean to you?
How many seats do Muslim parties (Muslim brotherhood and Salfists) hold in the parliment? Who did elect them? Tanzanians or Egyptians?

Who did the people of Egypt chose as their president? secularist or a Muslim? In what process did they elect both above pillars of the state? Wasn't it democratically (rule of free people)?

Who suffered and oppressed most during the iron fist rule of the puppet Mubarak? Do you know that Mursi any many others were at one time imprisoned druing Mubarak? Do you know that Muslim Brotherhood was banned during those times?

Here they are (Muslim Brotherhood and the Salafis) lead their people of Egypt toward realising their Islamic dream at which all people (Muslims and non-Mulisms: so long as they do not engage in evil) will be protected.

Islam is popular in Egypt and Mohammed Mursi is popular in Egypt, and keep on denying that is just wasting of time and breath, especially at this time. Wake up !!! the World is changing.
 
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Simple, the judiciary and the army are next in this transformation. So the army is transfroming itself to protect the nation as it transforms toward establishing an islamic state of Egypt, and your suggestion that they protect Muhammed Mursi as such they used to be used to protect Mubarak by the CIA, is absolutely not true to a farcical magnitude.

Are you aware that there was also a conter-protest march by Muslims (Muslim brotherhood) which was attended by about two million people which probably you are not shown in your manipulative TV screens? This was just a tip of the iceberg if compared by a few of about ten thousand even if they fill up your TV screens and kept repeated every 10 minutes. It is stil few of about 10 thousands who will eventually one day regret (if they are truthful) when Islam is established and provide protection and the walfare to all including them who protest and conspire against its establishment.

What does popularity mean to you?
How many seats do Muslim parties (Muslim brotherhood and Salfists) hold in the parliment? Who did elect them? Tanzanians or Egyptians?

Who did the people of Egypt chose as their president? secularist or a Muslim? In what process did they elect both above pillars of the state? Wasn't it democratically (rule of free people)?

Who suffered and oppressed most during the iron fist rule of the puppet Mubarak? Do you know that Mursi any many others were at one time imprisoned druing Mubarak? Do you know that Muslim Brotherhood was banned during those times?

Here they are (Muslim Brotherhood and the Salafis) lead their people of Egypt toward realising their Islamic dream at which all people (Muslims and non-Mulisms: so long as they do not engage in evil) will be protected.

Islam is popular in Egypt and Mohammed Mursi is popular in Egypt, and keep on denying that is just wasting of time and breath, especially at this time. Wake up !!! the World is changing.
Brother, its quite clear now that Morsi is a dissapointment to the Egyptian revolution, he has dissapointed many, and not only in Egypt.

He was expected to bring a fers air of democracy to the Arab world, and now he has been branded a " morden day Paharaoh", just like Mubarak-a dictator.

There is no harm in folllowing his Muslim Brother hood backer but it should be a democratic and popula move.
The notion that you are suggesting , eti CIA plot is nonsense in this modern day and age.

Morsi is turning out to be a dictator and nothing else.
 
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Brother, its quite clear now that Morsi is a dissapointment to the Egyptian revolution, he has dissapointed many, and not only in Egypt.

He was expected to bring a fers air of democracy to the Arab world, and now he has been branded a " morden day Paharaoh", just like Mubarak-a dictator.

There is no harm in folllowing his Muslim Brother hood backer but it should be a democratic and popula move.
The notion that you are suggesting , eti CIA plot is nonsense in this modern day and age.

Morsi is turning out to be a dictator and nothing else.
I like and wish that I could answer you and continue with discussion, but, unfortunately, I see no substance in what you have said, since I have addressed everything and more about what you say, unless you did not read properly and you are fighting against your soul for not accepting where Egypt is heading.

Parliament is in place, Muslims have won 358 seats(Muslim Brotherhood 235 and Salafis 123) against non-Muslims only 73 seats. Election was democratic

President is in place, Mohammed Mursi, a Muslim form Muslim Brotherhood movement by 51.7% of the vote while Ahmed Shafiq (a secularist)48.3% of the vote. Election was democratic. If you memory works well, the two arms that worked for the White House/CIA/Pentagon in Egypt since the time of Mubarak, the military and judiciary known as (Supreme Council of the Armed Forces) tried to frustrate and to rig the election by delaying and also illegally dissolved the legitimately and democratically elected parliament. Mursi, Muslim Brotherhood and all Muslims persevere with patients, no chaos no street protests and lives were saved by that patients. If you also remember, after Musri was given his deserved victory, he recalled the parliament back, and guess what! who conducted street protests against Mursi accusing him and Muslim Brotherhood of disobeying the judiciary (Supreme Council of the Armed Forces):- Armed forces!!!! into politics!!! was for dissolving the legitimately and democratically elected parliament democratic move? Actually what they did was ruled unconstitutional !!! unconstitutional even to the Mubarak constitution, but still these same thugs protested against Mursi and Muslim Brotherhood that they must obey the army by making an unconstitutional action of dissolving the parliament

Constitutional referendum is tomorrow. The reason all this protest is nothing less that just an attempt to stop and undermine the process of transformation that Egypt is currently going thru, why ??? no any other reason except just because Islam is winning, people are choosing Islam and abandon secularism. They know in freedom people are choosing Islam. They know for sure that, not only that majority of people gave their views "for" it (Islamic constitution) but also will vote for it at the referendum. They come up with a nonsense claim that it is being rushed, what a ****!!! this is the process and it is moving. Can we stop our constitution reform process in TZ currently taking place until for example people change their views and vote "for" not against Muungano?? or for example cancel the process now because most people give their views "against" a particular aspect that "chama tawala" au "chama upinzani" do not like? Can we? No, once the need for a constitutional reform is determined, and president select a panel led by "Jaji Warioba" and the panel is given the mandate, time period and go ahead, that is it, the process will be moving non-stop unless the country stop, simple.

Next reform is judiciary and then Military to complete pillars of the state, an Islamic and democratic (although you find this hard to swallow)state will be complete and serve the people (all people, Muslims and non-Mulsims) equally according to the Shariah.

It is up to those enemies of Islam and those who have been blinded and brainwashed and hate Islam to come to terms with this reality. Let those with clear minds learn and they will find the beauty under Islam lies ahead to the surprise that all these too much lies spoken and conspiracy staged are just empty lies and mere fabrications.

What of these don't you understand?
 
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Is there anything good out of Muslim Brotherhood? I have researched the Muslim Brotherhood extensively. I studied nearly thirty books, and hundreds of articles, written by scholars and experts in Islamic affairs, some of whom are Muslim, and some or former Muslims. They unilaterally identify the Muslim Brotherhood as a Jihad organization whose long range intent is to establish Islam as the only accepted religion in Egypt. Bottom line: The Muslim Brotherhood will fake “moderation” in order to reach their goals. They are a powerful entity and dangerous to the World.
 
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I like and wish that I could answer you and continue with discussion, but, unfortunately, I see no substance in what you have said, since I have addressed everything and more about what you say, unless you did not read properly and you are fighting against your soul for not accepting where Egypt is heading.

Parliament is in place, Muslims have won 358 seats(Muslim Brotherhood 235 and Salafis 123) against non-Muslims only 73 seats. Election was democratic

President is in place, Mohammed Mursi, a Muslim form Muslim Brotherhood movement by 51.7% of the vote while Ahmed Shafiq (a secularist)48.3% of the vote. Election was democratic. If you memory works well, the two arms that worked for the White House/CIA/Pentagon in Egypt since the time of Mubarak, the military and judiciary known as (Supreme Council of the Armed Forces) tried to frustrate and to rig the election by delaying and also illegally dissolved the legitimately and democratically elected parliament. Mursi, Muslim Brotherhood and all Muslims persevere with patients, no chaos no street protests and lives were saved by that patients. If you also remember, after Musri was given his deserved victory, he recalled the parliament back, and guess what! who conducted street protests against Mursi accusing him and Muslim Brotherhood of disobeying the judiciary (Supreme Council of the Armed Forces):- Armed forces!!!! into politics!!! was for dissolving the legitimately and democratically elected parliament democratic move? Actually what they did was ruled unconstitutional !!! unconstitutional even to the Mubarak constitution, but still these same thugs protested against Mursi and Muslim Brotherhood that they must obey the army by making an unconstitutional action of dissolving the parliament

Constitutional referendum is tomorrow. The reason all this protest is nothing less that just an attempt to stop and undermine the process of transformation that Egypt is currently going thru, why ??? no any other reason except just because Islam is winning, people are choosing Islam and abandon secularism. They know in freedom people are choosing Islam. They know for sure that, not only that majority of people gave their views "for" it (Islamic constitution) but also will vote for it at the referendum. They come up with a nonsense claim that it is being rushed, what a ****!!! this is the process and it is moving. Can we stop our constitution reform process in TZ currently taking place until for example people change their views and vote "for" not against Muungano?? or for example cancel the process now because most people give their views "against" a particular aspect that "chama tawala" au "chama upinzani" do not like? Can we? No, once the need for a constitutional reform is determined, and president select a panel led by "Jaji Warioba" and the panel is given the mandate, time period and go ahead, that is it, the process will be moving non-stop unless the country stop, simple.

Next reform is judiciary and then Military to complete pillars of the state, an Islamic and democratic (although you find this hard to swallow)state will be complete and serve the people (all people, Muslims and non-Mulsims) equally according to the Shariah.

It is up to those enemies of Islam and those who have been blinded and brainwashed and hate Islam to come to terms with this reality. Let those with clear minds learn and they will find the beauty under Islam lies ahead to the surprise that all these too much lies spoken and conspiracy staged are just empty lies and mere fabrications.

What of these don't you understand?
Do not hide behind assumed reasons, the facts speak for themselves.
IF, and I say IF Morsi were so popular and he is reflecting the wishes of the majority of the Egyptians, then why use the army to prop his power from his beloved people.

Those Egyptians marching and demonstrating against Morsi, were they not the people that voted for him?
Isn't there betrayal here by Morsi?
 
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Is there anything good out of Muslim Brotherhood? I have researched the Muslim Brotherhood extensively. I studied nearly thirty books, and hundreds of articles, written by scholars and experts in Islamic affairs, some of whom are Muslim, and some or former Muslims. They unilaterally identify the Muslim Brotherhood as a Jihad organization whose long range intent is to establish Islam as the only accepted religion in Egypt. Bottom line: The Muslim Brotherhood will fake "moderation" in order to reach their goals. They are a powerful entity and dangerous to the World.
Thats quite a reflection.
That Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood berayed the electrolate is now very clear.
 
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Do not hide behind assumed reasons, the facts speak for themselves.
IF, and I say IF Morsi were so popular and he is reflecting the wishes of the majority of the Egyptians, then why use the army to prop his power from his beloved people.

Those Egyptians marching and demonstrating against Morsi, were they not the people that voted for him?
Isn't there betrayal here by Morsi?
were they not the people who voted for him?

Answer is No!
 

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