chikutentema
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Jamani Urusi ni moja kati ya nchi zenye misimamo tata, mara nyingi mi uwa nipo side ya Urusi kwa kuwa Mmarekani mi simpendi kutokana na mambo yake. Daima nchi inayokuwa kinyume na Magharibi (NATO) mimi huwa upande wake. Ila kwa hili la Islamic state kama si wapiganaji wa kutengezwa na US basi kwa mara ya kwanza naweza kuwa kinyume na Urusi kama atawaunga mkono. Msimamo wa Urusi ni upi? China nayo msimamo wake ni upi?
Mkuu, mimi ni muumini wa siasa za ujamaa, nikiwa na maana nawasapot akina Karl max, na wafuasi wake wote mpaka Mao, na Baba wa taifa letu Nyerere.
Urusi ndiyo iliyoweka wazi kuhusu ISIS kuwa ni Israel/American made.
Tatizo la nchi za kijamaa huwa hawataki kuingilia maswala ya nchi nyingine kabisaaaa. Ingawa ukweli wanauona.
Putin ni clever as much as Obama. Ndo maana officially hajasema yuko upande gani lakini picha kamili anayo. Kuna bomba la mafuta linataka kujengwa kupitia syria mpaka Israel. Sasa wanataka kuweka utawala puppet Syria ili mradi huo ufanyika kwa ukamilifu. Assad yuko kinyume nao kabisa. Kwa hiyo ISIS/ISl wanaandaa mazingira tu, lakini hizi airstrike ni kwa ajili ya serikali ya Assad.
Mimi pia ni mlengo wa kijamaa . Mimi ni muumini wa siasa Kali kama akina kimilsun
Kweli mmekutana akili zinafanana aseee! Kwa akili zenu urusi na china ni wajamaa? teh! teh! Eti na tanzania ni wajamaa hadi kwenye katiba inasomeka hivyo, maweeeee!
Ebwana urusi ni watu wenye msimamo awajabainisha lakin kama watakuwa pamoja na madhwalim hao ambao mwanzo walikuwa wakiwapa silaha kule siria
Kweli mkuu mimi mwenyewe ni muumini wa Marxism theory. Kiukweli Hata mimi sina uhakika kama kweli hawa ISIS wapo kinyume na US, kwani mwanzo walikuwa wana-support ya Marekani na mamburura wenzake(Uingereza, Ufaransa na Israel) kwa hoja kwamba Assad alitumia silaha za sumu, leo hao hao wamekuwa maadui zake. Shame on #US na #NATO wote. Bado niko Upamnda wa Urusi.
Kwa akili zako unadhani urusi itakuwa upande wa ISIs? Hilo swali hata mtoto mdogo atakujibu... Usijitoe akili
Puttin is a clever boy.
Aliwaambia tokea mwanzoni USA na washirika wake ya kwamba wasiwape silaha wale waasi wanaopigana kuiangusha serikali ya bashar al assad lakin marekani hakuskia.
Kwa kuwa lengo lake kubwa lilikuwa ni kuangusha utawala wa assad basi alichofanya ni kuendelea kuwapa hao waasi silaha kisha baadae akakitengeneza kiini macho hiki cha isis km vile alivyokatengeneza kiini macho cha alqaeda kisha akakipa umaarufu na kutangaza kuwa anapigana nacho kwa kuwa kinapandikiza siasa kali.
Lakin ukiangalia kwa umakij muasisi wa hii drama yoote ni mwenyewe mmarekani kwa interests zake.
Puttin na Assad ni washirika.
Puttin so far hawez kuona assad anaanguka kisha mmarekani aweke utawala wale kwa hilo hayupo tayari.
Wewe jiulize.
1.Hawa Isis wanapigana ili kuiangusha serikali ya Assad syria.
2.Marekani hapo hapo anapambana kuiangusha serikali ya syria.
Ila anachofanya ni kuwapiga isis at the same time kuwapa silaha waasi wengine anaowaita ni moderate rebels wapigane na isis in the ground war and at the same time waasi hao hao wapigane na Assad.
Umeona ujinga wa mmarekani sasa.
Puttin is a clever boy.
Aliwaambia tokea mwanzoni USA na washirika wake ya kwamba wasiwape silaha wale waasi wanaopigana kuiangusha serikali ya bashar al assad lakin marekani hakuskia.
Kwa kuwa lengo lake kubwa lilikuwa ni kuangusha utawala wa assad basi alichofanya ni kuendelea kuwapa hao waasi silaha kisha baadae akakitengeneza kiini macho hiki cha isis km vile alivyokatengeneza kiini macho cha alqaeda kisha akakipa umaarufu na kutangaza kuwa anapigana nacho kwa kuwa kinapandikiza siasa kali.
Lakin ukiangalia kwa umakij muasisi wa hii drama yoote ni mwenyewe mmarekani kwa interests zake.
Puttin na Assad ni washirika.
Puttin so far hawez kuona assad anaanguka kisha mmarekani aweke utawala wale kwa hilo hayupo tayari.
Wewe jiulize.
1.Hawa Isis wanapigana ili kuiangusha serikali ya Assad syria.
2.Marekani hapo hapo anapambana kuiangusha serikali ya syria.
Ila anachofanya ni kuwapiga isis at the same time kuwapa silaha waasi wengine anaowaita ni moderate rebels wapigane na isis in the ground war and at the same time waasi hao hao wapigane na Assad.
Umeona ujinga wa mmarekani sasa.
You've almost speak the truth but a bit biased concerning their motives:
ISIS grew out of opportunity and the opportunity presented itself thanks to American action and inaction. The US left Iraq with an equipped army rather than a stable army, as it is run by a rather unstable government, courtesy of the US invasion. As a result, the equipments used by this rather unstable army all ended up in the hands of the "enemy combatants" such as the ISIS soldiers after these rather unstable army disbanded at the first sight of the "enemy combatants".
Iraq's leadership is to blame--but you need to look at who propped them up in the first place.
Assad's regime is in part to blame for ISIS's rise. This whole ISIS thing is a maneuver, demanded from New York as part of the Axis of Good, to oust Assad.
That makes a whole lot of sense. That's not unlike blaming a woman for being raped because she was a woman. If you didn't have the parts, you couldn't be raped, so in effect you enabled your own violation.
I would compare this to the Chinese and Russian position on Al Qaeda during the global war on terror. Both were against it, but since it didn't pose as much of an immediate threat to them, they were happy to let somebody else do the work.
China is a major investor in iraq. China don't trust US, he's afraid his troops could be manipulated by US and suffer a devastated loss, plus US criticisms on his policy concerning Xinjiang province. And perhaps scared to become major target of terrorism.
Meanwhile Russia is not happy about US intention toward Assad. Sryia (Basha alsadr is a friend of Russia) Russia wouldn't want to see his friend destroyed. But that is also among the US military motives .That's why US supports Syrian rebels
Red: you've made my day ha ha ha i love that...Thank You Comrade.
I can alomst agree with you.
Thats exactly point which i was trying to make.
Thats the game which we call our friend's Enemy is not our friend...he is our enemy too.
If Isis is fighting Assad and USA is also arming what he calls moderate rebels to fight ground war with assad.
At the same time USA is also arming moderate rebels to fight isis dont you think that this is political ponography??
Have you heard anything in your lifetime called alqaeda and isis before the west's invansion towards mideast??
Thats why we are saying isis n alqaeda is the CIA game to fool the world while USA and her allies keep on stealing barrels of crude oil in iraq n syria.
Jamani Urusi ni moja kati ya nchi zenye misimamo tata, mara nyingi mi uwa nipo side ya Urusi kwa kuwa Mmarekani mi simpendi kutokana na mambo yake. Daima nchi inayokuwa kinyume na Magharibi (NATO) mimi huwa upande wake. Ila kwa hili la Islamic state kama si wapiganaji wa kutengezwa na US basi kwa mara ya kwanza naweza kuwa kinyume na Urusi kama atawaunga mkono. Msimamo wa Urusi ni upi? China nayo msimamo wake ni upi?