Mambo muhimu yakufanya kuitoa Kenya kwenye lindi la ukabila

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Kila kukicha kenya inazidi kuzama kwenye lindi la ukabila,
Kuelekea uchaguzi wa 2017 hali inazidi kuwa mbaya.

Sasa naona baadhi ya wakenya wachache wameliona hili kuwa ni Tatizo sana
Japo hawana nguvu kwa wakenya walio wengi bao
Kwao ukabila upondani ya damu.

Naona watanzania tuwasaidie hata kwahili japo wanatuita ]Vilazza] Lakini kwahili wanapaswa watuige hata kama hawapendi.

Tanzania kabila kaziyake ni kutambikia tu hakuna lingine.

Wakenya wachache [wazalendo]
Wameleta hii

Beyond tribe: solution to Eradication of tribalism and prevention of PEV(post election violence) (2013 version)

Beyond tribe: solution to Eradication of tribalism and prevention of PEV(post election violence) (2013 version)
ABSTRACT

Singing the national anthem won’t help national integration, and neither will exhorting tribalists to end tribalism work. I’m still not convinced as to how old people will ever grow up to be non tribal, or professors get educated enough to stop being tribalists. Maybe our salvation lies in the children we are busy telling how Kikuyus,luos,kalenjins,kambas are evil in the name of democratically electing a president…

The solution to negative ethnicity/political tribalism will only be apparent when we realize where the problem lies and decide to deliberately deal with it. In my considered opinion the problem lies with our conceptualization and practice of democracy. To be sure,there is no one universal definition and practice of democracy. Indeed, Democracy as practiced by USA, Britain, India and all the other great democracies in the world differ a great deal.

However, there are two basic tenets upon which democracy hinges, viz:

1) That all the members of the society (citizens) have equal access to power.

2) That all citizens enjoy universally recognized freedoms and liberties

In a democracy, access to power is mainly through voting. Thus, ‘equal access to power’ implies an assumed equality, in numerical terms, among the various groups of members of the society competing for the same. Any numerical differences among the members of the society leads to feelings of marginalization of the smaller groups which may ultimately be exploited by some people to cause strife … the second principle will not be worth the paper it’s written on, the assumption being that once a group is denied ‘equal’ access to power their freedoms and liberties will be trampled on by the bigger group.

HERE IN LIES KENYA’S POLITICAL/ETHNIC PROBLEMS WHICH RAPIDLY MUTATE INTO SOCIAL PROBLEMS

First, the members of the society competing for power have numerical differences, such that there is this all pervasive notion that the political process is not fair; especially when it comes to the highest political office in the land, namely, the presidency. With the kikuyu at 22% of the Kenyan population and Turkana at about 1%, it’s understandable. This will always be used by politicians as an excuse to sow hatred amongst the various ‘marginalized’ groups, as it happened in 2007/2008.

Secondly, Most Kenyans equate power with the presidency. Full stop.

Thirdly, the curse (some might call it a blessing) of Kenya’s ethnic differences (cultural diversity) and its attendant numerical differences. However, one should be cognizant of the fact that homogeneity might not necessarily be a solution to Kenya’s political problems: A case in point being Somali, with citizens of same tribe and religion and endless political conflicts.


TRIBALISM
Belonging to a Tribe (ethnic group) is just one of the myriads of identities an individual has as a member of the society. It’s just like being a member of a family, a church, a university, social class etc. Belonging to a tribe is neither negative nor positive.

Identities usually turn negative only in cases of competition.

Let me give an example. If the identity called you and yours truly were in a competition, whom would you support? What of if our children were competing, would you really support mine rather than your son or daughter? Remember London Olympics 2012, which country did you support (especially in games where you had countrymen/women competing?)

Politics is essentially a competition for the power or authority to manage public resources. In a democracy, Politicians need the numbers to emerge winners. To get the numbers, a politician will appeal to members of his/her family, clan, tribe, religion etc depending on the position at stake, or the identity with the requisite numbers.

Most People always tend to support someone with whom they have a commonality, including sharing a
 
I think the solution to eradicate tribalism in Kenya is far from external help. Kenyans irrespective of colour, Language or ethnic background should at the first place accept what they are and move on. They should introduce National reconciliation program spearheaded by elders to educate mass about the cons of tribalism. Good Kenyans, you are owed to do something for the betterment of your children and Nation as well....
 
Op dont be lazy,just post the full article.
That being said, i do not think wabongo understand this complex issue in kenyan society, going by the comments above. What's good for Paul doesn't have to work for Peter.

Before i engage properly on this, i just want to say that many other African nations grapple with negative ethnicity ,Kenya is not unique. I have witnessed first hand some very crude tribalism when stationed in Uganda. Alll in all, its inexcusable and dehumanises both the perpetrator and victim.

Point number two requires a lot more meat on it, i dunno for sure if it's workable like they do it in Nigeria (North and South alternate presidency). orina shed some more light on this one too as regards Nigeria. t-time do the same for South Africa.

Point number one is quite clear though and acceptable to me but it means changing the political system completely, and that is a herculean undertaking.
 
Op dont be lazy,just post the full article.
That being said, i do not think wabongo understand this complex issue in kenyan society, going by the comments above. What's good for Paul doesn't have to work for Peter.

Before i engage properly on this, i just want to say that many other African nations grapple with negative ethnicity ,Kenya is not unique. I have witnessed first hand some very crude tribalism when stationed in Uganda. Alll in all, its inexcusable and dehumanises both the perpetrator and victim.

Point number two requires a lot more meat on it, i dunno for sure if it's workable like they do it in Nigeria (North and South alternate presidency). orina shed some more light on this one too as regards Nigeria. t-time do the same for South Africa.

Point number one is quite clear though and acceptable to me but it means changing the political system completely, and that is a herculean undertaking.

Comrade quickly, DO you think the absolute changing of political system in Kenya will take away tribalism? I think No. The main point here is how to eradicate tribalism and have national unity as Kenyan and not as practically seems i.e. Luo, Kikuyu, Karenjeeni etc..whatever the approach, National reconciliation program is necessary to grantee better Kenya
 
Comrade quickly, DO you think the absolute changing of political system in Kenya will take away tribalism? I think No. The main point here is how to eradicate tribalism and have national unity as Kenyan and not as practically seems i.e. Luo, Kikuyu, Karenjeeni etc..whatever the approach, National reconciliation program is necessary to grantee better Kenya
Like i always say, tumia lugha unayooleewa kujieleza, utaeeleweka.

To deny the existence of ethnic groups/racial categories/visible differences is folly. You should try to be a Kenyan for a day, see it from their perspective, and not rehash stereotypes about them in your response.

We are campaigning against -ve ethnicity aka ukabila ,everywhere. Perhaps we can then engage.
 
Like i always say, tumia lugha unayooleewa kujieleza, utaeeleweka.

To deny the existence of ethnic groups/racial categories/visible differences is folly. You should try to be a Kenyan for a day, see it from their perspective, and not rehash stereotypes about them in your response.

We are campaigning against -ve ethnicity aka ukabila ,everywhere. Perhaps we can then engage.
Watu kama wewe mkishirikiana
mtaiokoa kenya
maneno mazuri
 
Like i always say, tumia lugha unayooleewa kujieleza, utaeeleweka.

To deny the existence of ethnic groups/racial categories/visible differences is folly. You should try to be a Kenyan for a day, see it from their perspective, and not rehash stereotypes about them in your response.

We are campaigning against -ve ethnicity aka ukabila ,everywhere. Perhaps we can then engage.
unajuaje kama mimi siyo Mkenya?
 
Like i always say, tumia lugha unayooleewa kujieleza, utaeeleweka.

To deny the existence of ethnic groups/racial categories/visible differences is folly. You should try to be a Kenyan for a day, see it from their perspective, and not rehash stereotypes about them in your response.

We are campaigning against -ve ethnicity aka ukabila ,everywhere. Perhaps we can then engage.[/


This is a comment of silly and retarded man. I have advice to you, try hard not to be a refugee in 2017. time is a signal..
 
unajuaje kama mimi siyo Mkenya?
Huelewi baadhi ya jamii zetu hadi na kuyaandika, mfano hapo juu umetaja jamii ya kareenjeni(silifahmu hiyo).
mtazamo wako sio ya mkenya.
Maandishi yako ni ya kibongo.
 
Mkuu ukikaa na wakenya mbona hautakuja tena kuandika kuhusu kuwasuluhisha na ukabila. Nimekaa nao Zanzibar hotel ya Breeze Beach Club & SPA niwafahamu mwanzo mwisho. Kuna Wakikuyu wao ndo wanatambua mungu aliiumba Kenya kwa ajili yao, kuna Wakalenji kabila la Ruto nao wanaamini ni bora kuliko wakamba, wajaluo na waluya kwa kifupi ukabila huko ndo mahali pake
 
Huelewi baadhi ya jamii zetu hadi na kuyaandika, mfano hapo juu umetaja jamii ya kareenjeni(silifahmu hiyo).
mtazamo wako sio ya mkenya.
Maandishi yako ni ya kibongo.
Tofauti ya mkenya na mbongo ktk maandishi ni ipi?
 
Mkuu ukikaa na wakenya mbona hautakuja tena kuandika kuhusu kuwasuluhisha na ukabila. Nimekaa nao Zanzibar hotel ya Breeze Beach Club & SPA niwafahamu mwanzo mwisho. Kuna Wakikuyu wao ndo wanatambua mungu aliiumba Kenya kwa ajili yao, kuna Wakalenji kabila la Ruto nao wanaamini ni bora kuliko wakamba, wajaluo na waluya kwa kifupi ukabila huko ndo mahali pake
Upo sawa mkuu
Kikuyu hawa ndio tatizo la ukabila kenya
Ndio wao wanao ukuza ukabila kenya

Wanaona kana wao pekee ndio wanao stahili kuongoza na kuheshimika kenya
 
Wakenya wote ambao wanajitapa humu JF kuwa wao wamestaarabika ni kikuyu.
 
wahamasishwe kuona kati ya kabila moja hadi jingine. Tuseme Kikuyu ameona na Mluo basi wanapewa hela na kuhamasishwa kwenda kuishi Turkana, kwa mfano.

Serikali iweke fedha mtu akioa kabila jingine na kuhamia sehemu nyingine awezeshwe na serikali. Tatizo la Kenya nafikiri sio ukabila tatizo la kenya wanaishi Kijamii. Kuishi kijamii ndo kunazaa ukabila.

Na pia naamini hakuna national reconciliation itakayo fanya kazi kama bado wanaishi kijamii.

Yani wanaishi kijamii kama enzi zile za mtemi mirambo, mkwawa isike nk. Maadam hizi temi bado wanaziishi ukabila hautaisha.
 
wahamasishwe kuona kati ya kabila moja hadi jingine. Tuseme Kikuyu ameona na Mluo basi wanapewa hela na kuhamasishwa kwenda kuishi Turkana, kwa mfano.

Serikali iweke fedha mtu akioa kabila jingine na kuhamia sehemu nyingine awezeshwe na serikali. Tatizo la Kenya nafikiri sio ukabila tatizo la kenya wanaishi Kijamii. Kuishi kijamii ndo kunazaa ukabila.

Na pia naamini hakuna national reconciliation itakayo fanya kazi kama bado wanaishi kijamii.

Yani wanaishi kijamii kama enzi zile za mtemi mirambo, mkwawa isike nk. Maadam hizi temi bado wanaziishi ukabila hautaisha.
Maoni mazuri mkuu
 
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