Fear over EAC's future as Tanzania is sidelined again!

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Fear over EAC's future as Tanzania is sidelined again

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Kenyan president Uhuru Kenyatta ( left) has signed a pact with Uganda and Rwanda to remove travel barriers among the three countries in efforts to make it easier for entrepreneurs to operate across borders. PHOTO | NATION MEDIA GROUP.


By Muthoki Mumo

In Summary


  • The first of the tri-lateral talks took place in Entebbe in June when Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni hosted President Uhuru Kenyatta and Rwanda's Paul Kagame to a summit that saw the three countries commit to vast investments in rail and oil infrastructure.
  • An official with the ministry of Foreign Affairs who asked not to be named in order to speak freely on the matter, said that although Burundi and South Sudan had attended the meeting in Mombasa, they were not among the main repartees of the negotiations.

That Tanzania has been left out of a series of regional talks on infrastructure and trade is raising questions about it's place in the East African Community.

Responding to media inquiries, Kenya's State House said that
Tanzania had not been invited to the summits.


The Kenyan Government said Tanzania's absence was not a problem because the talks were primarily concerned with easing transport logistics within the "Northern Corridor".

"They were not invited because at the moment we are dealing with the Northern Corridor. This was about the Port of Mombasa and the infrastructure that feeds the Northern Corridor," said Secretary of Communication Manoah Esipisu. This transit corridor links landlocked South Sudan, Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi to the Port of Mombasa.

The first of the tri-lateral talks took place in Entebbe in June when Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni hosted President Uhuru Kenyatta and Rwanda's Paul Kagame to a summit that saw the three countries commit to vast investments in rail and oil infrastructure.

On Wednesday, it was Kenya's turn to host its neighbours in the second infrastructure summit, a forum to measure progress made since the June meeting. This time round, however, the summit was expanded to include Burundi and South Sudan. The two countries will now "be part and parcel of the projects".Tanzania was the only member of the East African Community (EAC) missing in Mombasa. The country's absence becomes even more conspicuous when one considers that South Sudan is yet to be accepted as an EAC member.

Tanzanian Government officials who spoke to the Sunday Nation said the country did not get an invitation to attend either of the meetings.

"I have just confirmed that we were not invited to Mombasa just like we were not invited to the meeting in Entebbe," said Tanzanian Government Spokesperson Asah Mwambene in a telephone interview on Thursday. Mwambene did not comment on any specific projects undertaken by the summit, adding that any projects touching on Tanzania's interests would be addressed through the "proper forums in the EAC".

An official with the ministry of Foreign Affairs who asked not to be named in order to speak freely on the matter, said that although Burundi and South Sudan had attended the meeting in Mombasa, they were not among the main repartees of the negotiations.

The ministry of Foreign Affairs official said Burundi and South Sudan had expressed interest to be part of the summit.

Therefore, he argued, the summit had technically not overlooked Tanzania by admitting new members within its ranks.

However, during the meeting last week, heads of state were quick to remedy this. Ministers were directed to make provisions "to integrate the Republic of Burundi and the Republic of South Sudan into the Summit". Further, the two countries are to be included in the technical committees steering the projects proposed by the summit.

In June, Rwanda, Uganda and Kenya agreed to jointly invest in a high-speed railway network to link the three countries. There are also talks to build an oil refinery in Uganda and to extend a pipeline that had been planned to link Kenya and South Sudan to Kampala and Kigali. Kenya, Uganda and Rwanda have also vowed to harmonise customs tax collection efforts at the Port of Mombasa.

During the meeting in Mombasa, the five countries in attendance agreed to extend the standard gauge railway to South Sudan and Bujumbura, Burundi.

However, the summit has engaged itself in more than just discussion over rail transport and oil infrastructure.

Rwanda, Uganda and Kenya adopted an agreement in which they vowed to accelerate regional integration.

Ministers from the three countries have been ordered to submit a progress report on the establishment of a single tourist visa valid in Kenya, Rwanda and Uganda by October. They are also expected to start implementing immigration policies that will see national identification cards used as travel documents by January 2014.

INITIATIVES

These are initiatives that are already being pursued by the EAC in efforts to ease the movement of goods, capital and labour within the regional economic bloc. Mr Esipisu said that although Tanzania had not participated in the summit, its government had been informed of the agreements.

Further, EAC countries have adopted the principle of asymmetry which says that nations may adopt various measures on integration at varying speeds depending on their domestic, economic and political status. This means that countries that participated in the summit are empowered to accelerate the adoption of certain integration measures without the say-so of their partner states.

Tanzania's absence from the summit may, nevertheless, emphasise the perception that the country is a lone ranger in the region's economic integration despite hosting the EAC's headquarters.

The country has often taken a cautious stance on some integration measures.

There have also been trade-related tensions between Tanzania and other countries in the EAC. Kenya, in particular, has often taken issue with Tanzania's regulations over work permit fees.

The EAC secretariat last week sought to allay fears of a rift within the Community. During a press briefing in Arusha, EAC secretary- general, Dr Richard Sezibera, said trilateral and bilateral trade talks between some of the partner states would not weaken or break the community.

"The secretary-general of the East African Community said the community is not against having bilateral or trilateral arrangements among partner states in the overall context of the regional integration," read part of a statement from the EAC.

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Fear over EAC's future as Tanzania is sidelined again

prezos.jpg


Kenyan president Uhuru Kenyatta ( left) has signed a pact with Uganda and Rwanda to remove travel barriers among the three countries in efforts to make it easier for entrepreneurs to operate across borders. PHOTO | NATION MEDIA GROUP.


By Muthoki Mumo

In Summary


  • The first of the tri-lateral talks took place in Entebbe in June when Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni hosted President Uhuru Kenyatta and Rwanda's Paul Kagame to a summit that saw the three countries commit to vast investments in rail and oil infrastructure.
  • An official with the ministry of Foreign Affairs who asked not to be named in order to speak freely on the matter, said that although Burundi and South Sudan had attended the meeting in Mombasa, they were not among the main repartees of the negotiations.

That Tanzania has been left out of a series of regional talks on infrastructure and trade is raising questions about it's place in the East African Community.

Responding to media inquiries, Kenya's State House said that
Tanzania had not been invited to the summits.


The Kenyan Government said Tanzania's absence was not a problem because the talks were primarily concerned with easing transport logistics within the "Northern Corridor".

"They were not invited because at the moment we are dealing with the Northern Corridor. This was about the Port of Mombasa and the infrastructure that feeds the Northern Corridor," said Secretary of Communication Manoah Esipisu. This transit corridor links landlocked South Sudan, Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi to the Port of Mombasa.

The first of the tri-lateral talks took place in Entebbe in June when Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni hosted President Uhuru Kenyatta and Rwanda's Paul Kagame to a summit that saw the three countries commit to vast investments in rail and oil infrastructure.

On Wednesday, it was Kenya's turn to host its neighbours in the second infrastructure summit, a forum to measure progress made since the June meeting. This time round, however, the summit was expanded to include Burundi and South Sudan. The two countries will now "be part and parcel of the projects".Tanzania was the only member of the East African Community (EAC) missing in Mombasa. The country's absence becomes even more conspicuous when one considers that South Sudan is yet to be accepted as an EAC member.

Tanzanian Government officials who spoke to the Sunday Nation said the country did not get an invitation to attend either of the meetings.

"I have just confirmed that we were not invited to Mombasa just like we were not invited to the meeting in Entebbe," said Tanzanian Government Spokesperson Asah Mwambene in a telephone interview on Thursday. Mwambene did not comment on any specific projects undertaken by the summit, adding that any projects touching on Tanzania's interests would be addressed through the "proper forums in the EAC".

An official with the ministry of Foreign Affairs who asked not to be named in order to speak freely on the matter, said that although Burundi and South Sudan had attended the meeting in Mombasa, they were not among the main repartees of the negotiations.

The ministry of Foreign Affairs official said Burundi and South Sudan had expressed interest to be part of the summit.

Therefore, he argued, the summit had technically not overlooked Tanzania by admitting new members within its ranks.

However, during the meeting last week, heads of state were quick to remedy this. Ministers were directed to make provisions "to integrate the Republic of Burundi and the Republic of South Sudan into the Summit". Further, the two countries are to be included in the technical committees steering the projects proposed by the summit.

In June, Rwanda, Uganda and Kenya agreed to jointly invest in a high-speed railway network to link the three countries. There are also talks to build an oil refinery in Uganda and to extend a pipeline that had been planned to link Kenya and South Sudan to Kampala and Kigali. Kenya, Uganda and Rwanda have also vowed to harmonise customs tax collection efforts at the Port of Mombasa.

During the meeting in Mombasa, the five countries in attendance agreed to extend the standard gauge railway to South Sudan and Bujumbura, Burundi.

However, the summit has engaged itself in more than just discussion over rail transport and oil infrastructure.

Rwanda, Uganda and Kenya adopted an agreement in which they vowed to accelerate regional integration.

Ministers from the three countries have been ordered to submit a progress report on the establishment of a single tourist visa valid in Kenya, Rwanda and Uganda by October. They are also expected to start implementing immigration policies that will see national identification cards used as travel documents by January 2014.

INITIATIVES

These are initiatives that are already being pursued by the EAC in efforts to ease the movement of goods, capital and labour within the regional economic bloc. Mr Esipisu said that although Tanzania had not participated in the summit, its government had been informed of the agreements.

Further, EAC countries have adopted the principle of asymmetry which says that nations may adopt various measures on integration at varying speeds depending on their domestic, economic and political status. This means that countries that participated in the summit are empowered to accelerate the adoption of certain integration measures without the say-so of their partner states.

Tanzania's absence from the summit may, nevertheless, emphasise the perception that the country is a lone ranger in the region's economic integration despite hosting the EAC's headquarters.

The country has often taken a cautious stance on some integration measures.

There have also been trade-related tensions between Tanzania and other countries in the EAC. Kenya, in particular, has often taken issue with Tanzania's regulations over work permit fees.

The EAC secretariat last week sought to allay fears of a rift within the Community. During a press briefing in Arusha, EAC secretary- general, Dr Richard Sezibera, said trilateral and bilateral trade talks between some of the partner states would not weaken or break the community.

"The secretary-general of the East African Community said the community is not against having bilateral or trilateral arrangements among partner states in the overall context of the regional integration," read part of a statement from the EAC.

Fears over EAC

I say this is a natural consequence of policy short-sightedness from the Tanzanian elite who keep thinking they are living in the 19th century with its nation state nonsense. I say well done to the three countries for, Tanzania cannot be allowed to continue to put a spanner into works of the EAC for jingoistic and empty nationalistic slogans, at the same time they allow the Mzungus and the Chinese to do whatever they want in the country, but they are suddenly becoming 'nationalists' when it concerns their neighbours, particularly the Kenyans.

The dangers of this ill~informed policy are: the first thing any investor will look at is how big the market is. So Tanzania will massively loose out when it comes to investments. Having natural resources is only part of the attraction; besides everybody nowadays seems to have some natural resources!

Second: in this atmosphere of undeclared enmity with neighbours, it is easy for a war to break out than when you have cosy relations with your neighbours. I am thinking of what will happen in DRC.

The Tanzania elite is a lazy and unlettered in history lot. All what they want is to continue keep their grip on a hapless uneducated majority of Tanzanians. They fear that with an open relationship with neighbouring countries that are doing better (with less resources) they will lose this subservient obedience from their 'subjects'.

Fine, now you have buggered up the EAC, COMESA ....! You better join the EU! Or, you better strengthen your loose SADCC and see if the Malawis and Botswanas will be cosier to you than the Kenyans and Ugandans. Tanzania has a lot of common with those two than will ever be with people with names like Hepufwekunye or whatishisname guy of Namibia!
 
Blah! blah! blaaaahh! let them go! dictactor museven, Fashist Kagame and icc suspect kenyatta!! shame on them!!
 
Tanzania keeps on with its development programs.Speed 120!. Nothing to fear!. Those kitchen party meetings will not distort us from our goals.
 
Kweli I 'm suprise! Since 1961 Uhuru hadi sasa bado tunazorota na kutambatamba, Tunahaha haha !! Yaani hatuna politicians wa kuamua msimamo yetu (TZ). Nchi za jirani zinasonga mbele maendeleo ya wenzetu yanashimiri, uchumi wao unakua katika kiwango maridhia time2time mf. Kigali kwa sasa inaitwa SINGAPORE/GENEVA Of AFRICA. !!
Sasa siye tumebaki kujishauri kiuzembe tu, eti kuhama hama mara ooh COMESA mara SADCC,EAC nk... hatujashika kimoja na kukitunza au kukiendeleza, Tunatumia fedha nyingi katika kigeugeu chetu tuna filisi mfuko wetu bila kufaidika.
Tunapoze muda mwingi katika siasa za ndani zisizo leta manufaa kwa wananchi, Tumeshindwa kutokomeza Umasikini kwa kudai visingizio mbalimbali " EXCUSES ARE THE NAILS USED TO BUILD A HOUSE OF FAILURE " hatuna sababu zozote za kutufanya tusichangamkie kiufanisi na nguvu kujitetea ndani ya umoja huu na tuchukuwe nafasi ya mbele kuongoza kiushujaa!! Tuache woga wetu ni miaka mingi tumepoteza, Tujipange vizuri tuangalie masilahi yetu nini? na wapi na tuamue. " YES WE CAN "
Good luck and longlive Tanzania.
 
==> Uhuru is a KILLER.....ICC & the world know tht..

==> Museveni... is a USELESS, HYPOCRITE &
poor minded DICTATOR...

==> Kagame...purely ARROGANT DICTATOR....killed
former Rwanda & Burundi presidents..by
bombing airplane, killed DRC president Laurent
Kabila....killed Prof. Mwakyusa in Dar es Salaam..
killed many..many...now the Head of M23....still
continue to Kill...kill..kill..in DRC....one Man
Kagame again is going to DESTROY EAC....just
joined EAC 3 yrs ago...now EAC is dying....


CONCLUSION...

Tanzania....with Most respectable President JK....HATUTISHIKI....HAYATUHUSU, HATUWSHITAJI ..HAWA NI WAHUNI...WANAFIKI...MANINA ZAO WASIJE TENA KUKOMBA MSAADA KWETU.....SISI
NDIO TUMENUFAIKA SANA...NENDENI ARUSHA MTAJUA...
==> Economically...hatutapata hasara kwani Uganda...95% ya mizigo yao ilikuwa tayari inapitia Mombasa....Rwanda ni nchi ndogo...mizigo yao sio mingi kupitia Bandari ya Dar ....na roho inawauma kweli kweli....NA SERIKALI LAZIMA IANZE KUWAFUKUZA WAKENYA....UGANDA...NA RWANDA NI WENGI WANAFANYA KAZI ILLEGALLY HAPA Tanzania...hasa Kenyans...thousands working here in Tz illegally....
 
I say this is a natural consequence of policy short-sightedness from the Tanzanian elite who keep thinking they are living in the 19th century with its nation state nonsense. I say well done to the three countries for, Tanzania cannot be allowed to continue to put a spanner into works of the EAC for jingoistic and empty nationalistic slogans, at the same time they allow the Mzungus and the Chinese to do whatever they want in the country, but they are suddenly becoming 'nationalists' when it concerns their neighbours, particularly the Kenyans.
The dangers of this ill~informed policy are: the first thing any investor will look at is how big the market is. So Tanzania will massively loose out when it comes to investments. Having natural resources is only part of the attraction; besides everybody nowadays seems to have some natural resources!
Second: in this atmosphere of undeclared enmity with neighbours, it is easy for a war to break out than when you have cosy relations with your neighbours. I am thinking of what will happen in DRC.

The Tanzania elite is a lazy and unlettered in history lot. All what they want is to continue keep their grip on a hapless uneducated majority of Tanzanians. They fear that with an open relationship with neighbouring countries that are doing better (with less resources) they will lose this subservient obedience from their 'subjects'.
Fine, now you have buggered up the EAC, COMESA ....! You better join the EU! Or, you better strengthen your loose SADCC and see if the Malawis and Botswanas will be cosier to you than the Kenyans and Ugandans. Tanzania has a lot of common with those two than will ever be with people with names like Hepufwekunye or whatishisname guy of Namibia!


Taratibu kiongozi.

Kwenye red: you're wrong, very wrong. TZ is doing very well. FDI has been on the rise for the last 5 yrs.

EAC can go to HELL - as in real HELL.
 
Whichever direction it takes, the East African Community is undergoing rapid change that could change not just its identity, but its geography and alignment as well.

In all probability, it will expand northwards to include South Sudan and possibly Sudan and, with time, Somalia and maybe Ethiopia.

Just thinking
 
This heading is actually misleading when you read the whole content. I think it is a case of others forging a head while allowing TZ time to make up her mind.
 
I say this is a natural consequence of policy short-sightedness from the Tanzanian elite who keep thinking they are living in the 19th century with its nation state nonsense. I say well done to the three countries for, Tanzania cannot be allowed to continue to put a spanner into works of the EAC for jingoistic and empty nationalistic slogans, at the same time they allow the Mzungus and the Chinese to do whatever they want in the country, but they are suddenly becoming 'nationalists' when it concerns their neighbours, particularly the Kenyans.

The dangers of this ill~informed policy are: the first thing any investor will look at is how big the market is. So Tanzania will massively loose out when it comes to investments. Having natural resources is only part of the attraction; besides everybody nowadays seems to have some natural resources!

Second: in this atmosphere of undeclared enmity with neighbours, it is easy for a war to break out than when you have cosy relations with your neighbours. I am thinking of what will happen in DRC.

The Tanzania elite is a lazy and unlettered in history lot. All what they want is to continue keep their grip on a hapless uneducated majority of Tanzanians. They fear that with an open relationship with neighbouring countries that are doing better (with less resources) they will lose this subservient obedience from their 'subjects'.

Fine, now you have buggered up the EAC, COMESA ....! You better join the EU! Or, you better strengthen your loose SADCC and see if the Malawis and Botswanas will be cosier to you than the Kenyans and Ugandans. Tanzania has a lot of common with those two than will ever be with people with names like Hepufwekunye or whatishisname guy of Namibia!

Ukitaka kujua kama mke bado anakupenda au la mwambie aende kwao! Utashangaa anajifanya anaondoka kisha anajirudisha mwenyewe-sitaki nataka!
Mmefanya timing wakati Watz tunampokea Obama ili kujadili mambo ya EAC. Mngemwalika Rais Kikwete muone kama asingetuma hata Waziri! Kikao cha Mombasa hakukuwa na ugeni wowote Tanzania, Kikwete hakuitwa tena, akaitwa ambaye hata si mwanachama wa EAC, South Sudan!
Fair enough! Why then complaining against Tanzania? Just go ahead and include the Al Shabaabs in EAC! WE know what is the best for our beautiful Country and we don't need Kagame et al to advise us! After all Kagame's country was part of our former Country Tanganyika, so was Burundi! So he (Kagame) is a kid who is still learning how to control his temper! When he is gone, we will probably have a matured partner from that country to partner with us in the EAC! As for now just go on with a Political Fedearation with a young boy Kagame and his brother M7!
 
I say this is a natural consequence of policy short-sightedness from the Tanzanian elite who keep thinking they are living in the 19th century with its nation state nonsense. I say well done to the three countries for, Tanzania cannot be allowed to continue to put a spanner into works of the EAC for jingoistic and empty nationalistic slogans, at the same time they allow the Mzungus and the Chinese to do whatever they want in the country, but they are suddenly becoming 'nationalists' when it concerns their neighbours, particularly the Kenyans.

The dangers of this ill~informed policy are: the first thing any investor will look at is how big the market is. So Tanzania will massively loose out when it comes to investments. Having natural resources is only part of the attraction; besides everybody nowadays seems to have some natural resources!

Second: in this atmosphere of undeclared enmity with neighbours, it is easy for a war to break out than when you have cosy relations with your neighbours. I am thinking of what will happen in DRC.

The Tanzania elite is a lazy and unlettered in history lot. All what they want is to continue keep their grip on a hapless uneducated majority of Tanzanians. They fear that with an open relationship with neighbouring countries that are doing better (with less resources) they will lose this subservient obedience from their 'subjects'.

Fine, now you have buggered up the EAC, COMESA ....! You better join the EU! Or, you better strengthen your loose SADCC and see if the Malawis and Botswanas will be cosier to you than the Kenyans and Ugandans. Tanzania has a lot of common with those two than will ever be with people with names like Hepufwekunye or whatishisname guy of Namibia!

Ukitaka kujua kama mke bado anakupenda au la mwambie aende kwao! Utashangaa anajifanya anaondoka kisha anajirudisha mwenyewe-sitaki nataka!
Mmefanya timing wakati Watz tunampokea Obama ili kujadili mambo ya EAC. Mngemwalika Rais Kikwete muone kama asingetuma hata Waziri! Kikao cha Mombasa hakukuwa na ugeni wowote Tanzania, Kikwete hakuitwa tena, akaitwa ambaye hata si mwanachama wa EAC, South Sudan!
Fair enough! Why then complaining against Tanzania? Just go ahead and include the Al Shabaabs in EAC! WE know what is the best for our beautiful Country and we don't need Kagame et al to advise us! After all Kagame's country was part of our former Country Tanganyika, so was Burundi! So he (Kagame) is a kid who is still learning how to control his temper! When he is gone, we will probably have a matured partner from that country to partner with us in the EAC! As for now just go on with a Political Fedearation with a young boy Kagame and his brother M7!
 
I say this is a natural consequence of policy short-sightedness from the Tanzanian elite who keep thinking they are living in the 19th century with its nation state nonsense. I say well done to the three countries for, Tanzania cannot be allowed to continue to put a spanner into works of the EAC for jingoistic and empty nationalistic slogans, at the same time they allow the Mzungus and the Chinese to do whatever they want in the country, but they are suddenly becoming 'nationalists' when it concerns their neighbours, particularly the Kenyans.

The dangers of this ill~informed policy are: the first thing any investor will look at is how big the market is. So Tanzania will massively loose out when it comes to investments. Having natural resources is only part of the attraction; besides everybody nowadays seems to have some natural resources!

Second: in this atmosphere of undeclared enmity with neighbours, it is easy for a war to break out than when you have cosy relations with your neighbours. I am thinking of what will happen in DRC.

The Tanzania elite is a lazy and unlettered in history lot. All what they want is to continue keep their grip on a hapless uneducated majority of Tanzanians. They fear that with an open relationship with neighbouring countries that are doing better (with less resources) they will lose this subservient obedience from their 'subjects'.

Fine, now you have buggered up the EAC, COMESA ....! You better join the EU! Or, you better strengthen your loose SADCC and see if the Malawis and Botswanas will be cosier to you than the Kenyans and Ugandans. Tanzania has a lot of common with those two than will ever be with people with names like Hepufwekunye or whatishisname guy of Namibia!


Kwanza wewe jamaa jifunze kuwa na adabu, and improve your diction! You have to know Tzananians know better abt what they want like other contries of the so called northern corridor who also believe know what they want. Then expand your knowledge about Tanzania's role on the formation of not only EAC but also other regional and continental integrations wakati huo ninyi mlikuwa mmejaa ubinafsi na umimi. Our elite was even ready to delay our independence so that we wait for you guys to get independence and start as a vibrant single EAC bloc. Sisi sio watoto wachanga kuhusiana na diplomasia na hizi jumuia za kikanda. If your aim of uniting and making the so called 'northern corridor' ya wahuni na watu wanaotafutwa na mahakama ya ICC is to frustrate Tz, then itakuwa imekula kwenu! But if you have good intentions God will help you, and we shall certainly learn from you. In short your hidden agenda of this forced and untimingly move (kama ndoa ya mkeka) will be key to the success or failure of your 'integration'.

Unajua roho mbaya will not take you anywhere. While you have NOT INVITED Tz in all of the meetings for reasons best known to you, you are still complaining more that Tanzania is lagging behind, sijui nini. Lagging on what exactly? Mnafanya kazi kichawi mnafanya vikao kwa vizia na kujificha halafu mnasema we are lagging behind. Kwa nn hamkuialika Tz ili muilaumu vizuri ikishindwa kushirikiana nanyi? Kwa nini mnalalamika sana?

Halafu, wewe sijui ni mu-East African gani usiyejua Kenya is among the leading trading partners with Tz, sasa unataka nini tena? Even our our political and economical integration with other neighbors from north to south is also very good, unless your ill-intention sours it.

In short, I don't understand huu muungano wa kuviziana maana hakuna ushahidi kwamba ajenda zinazozungumwa kwnye hiki kinachoitwa northern corridor integration zinatokana na Tanzania kukataa umoja. Lakini cha kushangaza hao hao wanaojadili ndio wanaonekana kulalamika saana kuhusu Tz!
 
won't lose a sleep , am pro SADC ! they can go ahead and be what they wanna be
 
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