Ethiopia, please join the East African Community

Wacha1 said:

You can ratify everything you want but at the end of the day each country will carry its own burden. M7 bado anang'ang'ania madaraka, JK ndio imetoka hiyo his time is up, hawezi hata kuonyesha sura baada ya Escrow . Hivi kweli Tanzania bado wana hamu na Escrow nyingine kutoka kwa manyang'au? I doubt it!

Watu walikuwa wanatolea mfano EU kuungana sasa yako wapi, wako njia panda tayari kuna mataifa yanataka kujiondoa kutokana na sera mbovu mbovu. Wengine wanafikiria matumbo yao tu hawafahamu you need to work hard wherever you are to achieve same goals. Kama Kenya ardhi yote kubwa iko mikononi mwa kenyatta et al ina maana waliobaki waje kwenye jumuiya wafaidike na ardhi ya Tanzania? Ngojeni vita baridi tu.

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Within EAC, each country carries its on individual burden while EA collectively carries the burden of EAC.

On terms limits, I think they are overrated. Not to say that I don't want them. Liberia And Sierra Leon wameshindwa kukumbana na ebola na wako na vingozi waliochaguliwa kidemokrasia na hizo term limits. Lakini ebola ikifika Uganda kama hapo kitambo kidogo, M7 will deal with it like a piece of cake. Hii sio kumtetea M7 kwa kila jambo. Kenya hatukuwai fikiria kuwa Moi atawai toka madarakani.

EU closely resembles a confederation where there are no protections for small countries like Greece from powerful countries like Germany as is the case within the USA federation.

Land is just but one of the factors of production, very few people in the US own land. A good number owns intellectual property worth lots of money. This should not be taken to mean that I don't want land justice in EA countries because land is a controversial issue in all EA countries. I don't think anyone would want to make it an EAC issue.

Kwa hiyo Liberia ingekuwa na dicteta Ebola isingewasumbua???
Nigeria wamepambana na Ebola wana dikteta? Ghana iko west afrika na ebola haijatia mguu ...nao wana dikteta?
Botswana wanafanya vizuri kiuchumi...nao wana dikteta...?
Kwa mtaji huu Africa tuna safari ndefu...

IAfrika said:

Within EAC, each country carries its on individual burden while EA collectively carries the burden of EAC.

On terms limits, I think they are overrated. Not to say that I don't want them. Liberia And Sierra Leon wameshindwa kukumbana na ebola na wako na vingozi waliochaguliwa kidemokrasia na hizo term limits. Lakini ebola ikifika Uganda kama hapo kitambo kidogo, M7 will deal with it like a piece of cake. Hii sio kumtetea M7 kwa kila jambo. Kenya hatukuwai fikiria kuwa Moi atawai toka madarakani.

EU closely resembles a confederation where there are no protections for small countries like Greece from powerful countries like Germany as is the case within the USA federation.

Land is just but one of the factors of production, very few people in the US own land. A good number owns intellectual property worth lots of money. This should not be taken to mean that I don't want land justice in EA countries because land is a controversial issue in all EA countries. I don't think anyone would want to make it an EAC issue.

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andreakalima said:

Nyumba kubwa unatetea Nchi yako hata kama ni uongo?

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Uongo upi? nimejifunza patriotism baada ya kugundua kuwa watu wana chuki binafsi na Tanzania...na bila kujua watanzania wanawasaidia kufanikisha hilo...

Mimi kwenye kuponda naponda...penye uwongo wa wazi natetea...

Ndio maana nilimponda Tibaijuka kuchukua 1m USD japo ni wa nyumbani...lol...

Lakini sio watu fulani humu hakuna zuri wanaloliona kwa nchi yao...
Huko ni kukosa uzalendo....

Kuna siku wakaka wawili walikuwa wana discuss Tanzania mimi nawasikiliza kwa chati...
Mmoja mganda...mwingine wa Ethiopia...
Mganda anatutetea...wa Ethiopia anaponda...
Sikuchangia sababu hawakunikaribisha...tulikuwa kwenye trip moja ndefu walikuwa karibu yangu kwenye bus...nawajua wote ilikuwa ni group trip...
Yani yule mEthiopia alinishangaza sana...eti anashangaa Tanzania kuleta wanafunzi wa master kwa pesa yake kusoma chuo alichosoma yeye master...walisomea uchumi...
Nikajiuliza...nikasema huu sasa ni wivu...kama haoni umuhimu wa Tz kusomesha wachumi wake vyuo vya nje..yeye anafanya nini kwenye vyuo vya ughaibuni...what is the difference yeye kusomeshwa kwa scholarship na Tz kujisomeshea watu wake???

Nilitabasamu baada ya Mganda kumpa za uso....

Kama kuna investment ya kujivunia ni nchi kuweza somesha watu wake...nchi zilizotoka zime invest kwenye elimu...
Kuna tofauti kati ya kusoma kwa scholarship na kusomeshwa na nchi yako...the later ina maana kuwa umesomeshwa kwa lengo maalumu...

Malaysia wamefanya sana hili...na wanaendelea kufanya pamoja na kuwa na vyuo 'vizuri' huko kwao...

very hard for ethiopia to join eac. system of government is very different from eac. ethiopian government is extremeley protectionist because ethiopia lacks competitive privately owned businesses. the government runs almost everything. pia lazima tukumbuke culture and ethnicity plays a big part. at a personal level ethiopians would be more comfortable uniting with eritrea, somalia and north sudan once the tension in the horn dies off. culture and ethnicity is why turkey is being frustrated by the eu but officials cannot say it publicly. ingawa ethiopians are not as prejudiced as somalis or sudanese, many horn of africa peoples consider other africans inferior. we saw how southern sudanese suffered discrimination under the sudan government.

nyumba kubwa said:

Kwa hiyo Liberia ingekuwa na dicteta Ebola isingewasumbua???
Nigeria wamepambana na Ebola wana dikteta? Ghana iko west afrika na ebola haijatia mguu ...nao wana dikteta?
Botswana wanafanya vizuri kiuchumi...nao wana dikteta...?
Kwa mtaji huu Africa tuna safari ndefu...

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No where did I vouch for dictatorship, I was just highlighting a specific point that in the process of adopting this western democracy we forget everything else. In Africa it means you have won the ownership of the country. We pay 100% attention to elections and 0% to good governance. Even in the countries you mentioned governance is not that good. My point is 99% focus should be on good governance, 1% on elections.

Kusema Ukweli TZ inapiga maendeleo EA hasa katika Gesi na kusomesha watu wake. Kenya sasa wamejaa hofu nyingi kwa hili WANATUONEA WIVU

educator2025 said:

Kusema Ukweli TZ inapiga maendeleo EA hasa katika Gesi na kusomesha watu wake. Kenya sasa wamejaa hofu nyingi kwa hili WANATUONEA WIVU

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Ni kweli....halafu pia ukiangalia Tz is the largest in terms of both size and population. That means tutakuwa na a larger representation in the federal government of EA. Wakenya wameshaliona hilo na wameshaanza kudai eti size ya uchumi iwe ni kigezo pia cha kuchagua viongozi.....ha! Eti leaders (senators and MPs) shall be chosen as per economic size?!

msemakweli said:

Ni kweli....halafu pia ukiangalia Tz is the largest in terms of both size and population. That means tutakuwa na a larger representation in the federal government of EA. Wakenya wameshaliona hilo na wameshaanza kudai eti size ya uchumi iwe ni kigezo pia cha kuchagua viongozi.....ha! Eti leaders (senators and MPs) shall be chosen as per economic size?!

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Siku hizi madini yanapatikana nchi zote EA ikiwemo, rare earth na mafuta Kenya, iron ore Uganda, Tanzania, sidhani kuna mtu ana wakati kuangalia na kupatwa na wivu kwa gesi na madini ya mwingine.

Hadi sasa sijaona mahali ambapo geographical size au kiwango cha uchumi imependekezwa na yeyote kutumiwa kuchagua wawakilishi kwenye federal government . Hio haitakuwa political federation .Mambo kuhusu size ya uchumi yaliashawekwa kwenye monetary union. Kama iko tuwekee link hapa.

I like the discussion, however let'z be cool and try to share our ideas like friends without much confrontations.

Afrika ni yetu sote tuipiganie na kuitetea dhidi ya ukoloni mamboleo, rushwa na ufisadi.

God bless EAC, God bless Afrika!