EA infrastructure race: Trio opening up big lead

EA infrastructure race: Trio opening up big lead

Demarco said:
It is,and you're not wrong but why use word infrastructure while you can use airport? what is your motive ?You were in position to use the word airport instead of infrastructure.
For what I see you try to make impression of something more than airport when you use the word Infrastructure ; airport, roads, railroad, bridges .....
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Okay, thanks.
 
Kimweri said:
In Tanzania Airports are not seen as such by the government, the ministry of infrastructures (UJENZI) is a separate ministry with the ministry of communications and such such which if am not mistaken overseas Airports. This is why most Tanzanians would put an asterik in your thread, which doesn't necessarily mean your definition is wrong, its just referred in a different way in TZ.

but with the Gist of your topic, There is no Gap at all, TZ is doing just fine for a poor country, refer comments posted before with developments in Airports under construction throughout the country ( and i just focused on the shiny parts) if i had to go raw i would even include Songwe in Mbeya,which can now officially take in Dreamliners, as if anyone sane will fly a dream liner to mbeya.
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Alright, we are in the same page then. Note that i' am not denying that Tanzania is doing a lot of work elsewhere which i stongly commend. That is the way to go for East Africa. Anything done anywhere in the region is a plus for all.
 
bulldog said:
walete hoja nyingine tuwaumbue. Nitakuwa nakumention kila sehemu watakayoleta upotoshaji
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maisha yako yatakuwa upweke mtupu , running after kenyans sababu mtz hana lakuleta kwa meza. Thats the most damaging symptom ya inferiority complex syndrome. Badala ya kuuza chako kazi ni kuponda vya wenyewe sababu umeshindwa ndipo you prove a point. You can fool a few people but you cant fool all the people all the time. I am thinking on the next project to occupy you poor tz man. I will always and kenya will always keep you busy.
 
lawmaina78 said:
Ok..ok.. what is the source of this vitriol, I only mentioned that a decent airport is a good source for FDI and in your juvenile response you've gone into a barrage of comparing our FDI with yours. Obviously, Tanzania being a huge country with so much resources has ability to attract more FDI. It's so funny to see how obsessed you guys are as far as Kenya is concerned, so many years later, you still playing catch-up.

I'd pity myself to be a citizen of such a resourceful country for so many years and its only vision and mission is to overtake a small neighbor like Kenya. That country of yours requires some aggressive approach to how things are done, otherwise you'll torment yourselves for so many years to come, since overtaking us is still elusive. Hundreds of articles have been written for many years in Tanzania how you guys will overtake Kenya, a simple Google search can show you the obsession to overtake us.

Note that, Kenya is not just idling around, we have massive mega projects that are being handed over to private sector in order fast-track them.
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Hang on wait a second. Are you telling me that waltham and lawmaina78 are the same person?because i have never conversed with lawmaina78 in this particular thread before.
If what i think it is what i think it is then the secret is out.

No one is Obsessed with Kenya, if am not wrong, this thread was brought forward by a Kenyan guy, who thought lies still had its place in these forums. I once told you and your Kenyan crews, stop with the lies,JF will be just fine for you.

In green, i see you reluctantly agreeing to concede the point that Tanzania leads Kenya in terms of FDI inflows, after assuming you could put it otherwise and folks here could let it slide.NOT anymore mate.
 
waltham said:
nawaonea huruma watz.wametawaliwa akili hawajiamini kabisa. Habari sahihi kwake lazima mzungu amwandikie. Kuna wasoma waafrica ata hapo tz uganda na kwingineko africa wazuri kuliko mzungu. Ndipo utaona kila sekta ya uchumu tz wageni ndio kutawala ikiongoza s.a wanaoiabundu kiasi cha kujichukia. Kwa tz s.a ideas na products ndiyo mpango mzima.
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Don't play victim you serial liar, cooking data is not a cover up for your incompetency. yes we have very capable individuals in EA,you can even fool Bloomberg, but do not think for a minute such yada yada will fly across here in JF.

You lied, you were caught red handed for manipulation of information, as a respectable individual owe the mistakes, don;t start the deflections.you sir/madam are beyond pathetic.
 
Askari Kanzu said:
Haisaidii kitu. Naona umebamizwa na jamaa mpaka umechanganyikiwa. Unajifanya mjanja kumbe hujui lolote. Unajiaibisha mbele ya jamii!
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emotional outbursts. dont answer kelele toka kwa mtungi tupu kimaarifa.
 
Kimweri said:
Hang on wait a second. Are you telling me that waltham and lawmaina78 are the same person?because i have never conversed with lawmaina78 in this particular thread before.
If what i think it is what i think it is then the secret is out.

No one is Obsessed with Kenya, if am not wrong, this thread was brought forward by a Kenyan guy, who thought lies still had its place in these forums. I once told you and your Kenyan crews, stop with the lies,JF will be just fine for you.

In green, i see you reluctantly agreeing to concede the point that Tanzania leads Kenya in terms of FDI inflows, after assuming you could put it otherwise and folks here could let it slide.NOT anymore mate.
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Have seen your posts elsewhere man, and I know you are better than stooping so low into juvenile tactics of your fellow guys who have nothing but salivate on everything you saying here. They have no brains of their own.

Now back to the topic at hand, this thread was brought by a Kenyan yes, but have you made any efforts to counterpoint the article he quoted. Instead, and just like your fellow citizens, you jumped into a barrage of vitriol before reading what the whole discussion was about.

Overtaking Kenya shouldn't be the only vision you guys have, you must begin opening and desist from introversion, you should wake up to a reality that, every mile you're making and no matter how hard you will be at us, we will always somehow directly or indirectly benefit and still propel us further. I've been to that country and have involved myself in several mega projects, I can tell you for a fact, the more your country develops, the more it's of huge benefits to Kenya.
 
lawmaina78 said:
Ok..ok.. what is the source of this vitriol, I only mentioned that a decent airport is a good source for FDI and in your juvenile response you've gone into a barrage of comparing our FDI with yours. Obviously, Tanzania being a huge country with so much resources has ability to attract more FDI. It's so funny to see how obsessed you guys are as far as Kenya is concerned, so many years later, you still playing catch-up.

I'd pity myself to be a citizen of such a resourceful country for so many years and its only vision and mission is to overtake a small neighbor like Kenya. That country of yours requires some aggressive approach to how things are done, otherwise you'll torment yourselves for so many years to come, since overtaking us is still elusive. Hundreds of articles have been written for many years in Tanzania how you guys will overtake Kenya, a simple Google search can show you the obsession to overtake us.

Note that, Kenya is not just idling around, we have massive mega projects that are being handed over to private sector in order fast-track them.
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How many times do i have to post the source of my data?

i will repeat again since 2007-2013 here are the FDI inflows in terms of Millions of dollars

Tanzania
2008-$1 383M
2009-$953 M
2010-$1 813 M
2011-$1 229 M
2012-$1 800 M
2013-$1 872 M

Average FDI inflows for the past 6 years is $1.508B

Kenya
2008-$96 M
2009-$115 M
2010-$178 M
2011-$335 M
2012-$259 M
2013-$514 M

Average FDI inflows for the past 6 years is $279M

comparison of Kenya and Tanzania FDI inflow performance for the past 6 years is Tanzania brought in 5.4 times more FDI inflows compare to Kenya, Need i Say more?

see for your selves page 208 of the report:http://unctad.org/en/PublicationsLibrary/wir2014_en.pdf

come again lawmaina78 or should i say waltham as it seem its the same person using multiple ID's. You can invite your friends to help you this one, but there is no way you will dig yourselves out of the lies you created.
 
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lawmaina78 said:
Have seen your posts elsewhere man, and I know you are better than stooping so low into juvenile tactics of your fellow guys who have nothing but salivate on everything you saying here. They have no brains of their own.

Now back to the topic at hand, this thread was brought by a Kenyan yes, but have you made any efforts to counterpoint the article he quoted. Instead, and just like your fellow citizens, you jumped into a barrage of vitriol before reading what the whole discussion was about.

Overtaking Kenya shouldn't be the only vision you guys have, you must begin opening and desist from introversion, you should wake up to a reality that, every mile you're making and no matter how hard you will be at us, we will always somehow directly or indirectly benefit and still propel us further. I've been to that country and have involved myself in several mega projects, I can tell you for a fact, the more your country develops, the more it's of huge benefits to Kenya.
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Having lived with people who admit their mistakes faster than they made them and actually correct them makes me very irritated when a person is caught red handed yet decided to lie in front of everyone's face.

You referred to my reply as if i had replied to you before in this thread while i had not, the only Kenyan i replied to apart from the thread starter has been waltham. I just pointed out an obvious fact yet you are acting all childish, don't get me started in this.better surrender and move on. I really don't care if the two of you share a bed or are the same person.

This topic was started with a wrong assumption,and it has since been clarified with the thread starter, nothing against anyone.it was pointed out that TZ was doing nothing regarding the airport situation which i happily clarified that this was under a separate ministry and it has done a good enough job for the capacity at their disposal.

The reason this thread has gotten this far is because the boy waltham put forward false claims, which i was very kind to correct, but he assumed i didn't know better and pushed back based on made up facts.

Please don't call Malaria projects Mega projects, as far as am concerned there is no mega projects involving Kenyans, and my Mega in TZ we are referring to a $11B port, $2B gas pipes $3B Iron mine etc, these $300M projects like the BRT are mostly large projects. So which project were you involved in?please do not lie.This path is always short.

and finally, its true that a developed TZ is of advantage to every country in EA and Africa at large.
 
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kimweri said:
how many times do i have to post the source of my data?

I will repeat again since 2007-2013 here are the fdi inflows in terms of millions of dollars

tanzania
2008-$1 383m
2009-$953 m
2010-$1 813 m
2011-$1 229 m
2012-$1 800 m
2013-$1 872 m

average fdi inflows for the past 6 years is $1.508b

kenya
2008-$96 m
2009-$115 m
2010-$178 m
2011-$335 m
2012-$259 m
2013-$514 m

average fdi inflows for the past 6 years is $279m

comparison of kenya and tanzania fdi inflow performance for the past 6 years is tanzania brought in 5.4 times more fdi inflows compare to kenya, need i say more?

See for your selves page 208 of the report:http://unctad.org/en/publicationslibrary/wir2014_en.pdf

come again lawmaina78 or should i say waltham as it seem its the same person using multiple id's. You can invite your friends to help you this one, but there is no way you will dig yourselves out of the lies you created.
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are we going back to the same tired story. Upuuzi mtupu. Nimekwambia mara kwa mara kenya kwa hiyo fdi you are boasting about ya tz kenya ni no. 3 contribution. Kama sivyo kama unavyokosa usingizi roaming google leta contrary report denying that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Kimweri said:
How many times do i have to post the source of my data?

i will repeat again since 2007-2013 here are the FDI inflows in terms of Millions of dollars

Tanzania
2008-$1 383M
2009-$953 M
2010-$1 813 M
2011-$1 229 M
2012-$1 800 M
2013-$1 872 M

Average FDI inflows for the past 6 years is $1.508B

Kenya
2008-$96 M
2009-$115 M
2010-$178 M
2011-$335 M
2012-$259 M
2013-$514 M

Average FDI inflows for the past 6 years is $279M

comparison of Kenya and Tanzania FDI inflow performance for the past 6 years is Tanzania brought in 5.4 times more FDI inflows compare to Kenya, Need i Say more?

see for your selves page 208 of the report:http://unctad.org/en/PublicationsLibrary/wir2014_en.pdf

come again lawmaina78 or should i say waltham as it seem its the same person using multiple ID's. You can invite your friends to help you this one, but there is no way you will dig yourselves out of the lies you created.
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I asked for the source of your vituperation not data. Wasting your keystrokes to compare FDIs of a small and semi-arid nation like Kenya against a huge fertile and resourceful country like Tanzania goes to show how much work needs to be done in your ability to comprehend the issue here......and this explains why you guys are still playing catch up, because all you do day in day out is singing about how blessed Tanzania is, but still lethargic at every approach.
 
lawmaina78 said:
I asked for the source of your vituperation not data. Wasting your keystrokes to compare FDIs of a small and semi-arid nation like Kenya against a huge fertile and resourceful country like Tanzania goes to show how much work needs to be done in your ability to comprehend the issue here......and this explains why you guys are still playing catch up, because all you do day in day out is singing about how blessed Tanzania is, but still lethargic at every approach.
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When you express yourself in English you sound like an illiterate!
 
kimweri said:
having lived with people who admit their mistakes faster than they made them and actually correct them makes me very irritated when a person is caught red handed yet decided to lie in front of everyone's face.

You referred to my reply as if i had replied to you before in this thread while i had not, the only kenyan i replied to apart from the thread starter has been waltham. I just pointed out an obvious fact yet you are acting all childish, don't get me started in this.better surrender and move on. I really don't care if the two of you share a bed or are the same person.

This topic was started with a wrong assumption,and it has since been clarified with the thread starter, nothing against anyone.it was pointed out that tz was doing nothing regarding the airport situation which i happily clarified that this was under a separate ministry and it has done a good enough job for the capacity at their disposal.

The reason this thread has gotten this far is because the boy waltham put forward false claims, which i was very kind to correct, but he assumed i didn't know better and pushed back based on made up facts.

Please don't call malaria projects mega projects, as far as am concerned there is no mega projects involving kenyans, and my mega in tz we are referring to a $11b port, $2b gas pipes $3b iron mine etc, these $300m projects like the brt are mostly large projects. So which project were you involved in?please do not lie.this path is always short.

And finally, its true that a developed tz is of advantage to every country in ea and africa at large.
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unajua ujinga hauna dawa kamwe. You are so childish in your juvenile tz assumption you can never be wrong na tz haiwezi kuwa nambari mbili lazima kwa lolote iwe no.1. Nakwambia tena na tena historia kati ya kenya na tz ipo wazi, tz inferiority complex is well known akijadili mada na mkenya ni ubishi na historical emotions but i thought you are above that and be sober debating. Alas! I was wrong. Nyani ni wale wale tu, msitu ndio tofauti.
 
waltham said:
kawaida ya mtz ni blowing horn for nothing na trying to prove a point na emotions kibao. Hawezi akaingia kwa sober debate na a kenyan. Just bwaga your facts and let them speak for themselves. Inferiority complex for ever.poor tz
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wewe kijana hujambo?.ni siku nyingi "sijakutia machoni".habari za huko machakos?.
 
Kimweri said:
Having lived with people who admit their mistakes faster than they made them and actually correct them makes me very irritated when a person is caught red handed yet decided to lie in front of everyone's face.

You referred to my reply as if i had replied to you before in this thread while i had not, the only Kenyan i replied to apart from the thread starter has been waltham. I just pointed out an obvious fact yet you are acting all childish, don't get me started in this.better surrender and move on. I really don't care if the two of you share a bed or are the same person.

This topic was started with a wrong assumption,and it has since been clarified with the thread starter, nothing against anyone.it was pointed out that TZ was doing nothing regarding the airport situation which i happily clarified that this was under a separate ministry and it has done a good enough job for the capacity at their disposal.

The reason this thread has gotten this far is because the boy waltham put forward false claims, which i was very kind to correct, but he assumed i didn't know better and pushed back based on made up facts.

Please don't call Malaria projects Mega projects, as far as am concerned there is no mega projects involving Kenyans, and my Mega in TZ we are referring to a $11B port, $2B gas pipes $3B Iron mine etc, these $300M projects like the BRT are mostly large projects. So which project were you involved in?please do not lie.This path is always short.

and finally, its true that a developed TZ is of advantage to every country in EA and Africa at large.
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Would you take a deep breath, count to ten and go back through the thread. There was a mature discussion going on between adults before you bumped in with your combative attitude. Somebody asked why article on EA infrastructure was mostly about airports, I responded by saying it's good for FDI and there you came in somersaulting with your ego.

As for our projects in Tz, doesn't matter what you want to see, what is important to me and most of us is the fact that, there are Tanzanians out there who are less discriminative and always working hand in hand with Kenyans. And the more that country and rest of EA develops, the more it's good for aggressive Kenyans. We are crisscrossing the entire region and engaging in every feasible deal, while your likes are busy hating and obsessing. You must also wake up to a reality that there are so many Indians and Chinese who are partnering with Kenyans in so many projects around EA.
 
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