DRC, Sudan want to join EAC

nomasana said:

companies gani? nakumatt is kenyan owned has held off shoprite from investing in kenya, safaricom successifully repelled vodacom from kenya(at the time the majority shareholder in safaricom was the kenyan govt) olympia capital holdings successifully repelled a south african company from investing in it and olympia capital went and invested in south africa. kenya airways(the pride of africa) competes with SA in africa. kenol/kobil is still competing with engen, actually kenol/kobil is doing better since the competion began, now they even have branches in ZAMBIA!!!! equity bank and kenya commercial bank are successifully competing witht the big multinational banks in kenya. and yes i left out the EABL vs SAB fight that EABL won. its thriving in the heat of the competition(that is what kenyans do) while the tanzanians melt like plastic. thats why it will take half a century before tanzania economy is on equal footing with kenya.

show me the tanzanian list of tanzanian owned companies that have successifully competed with SA companies. i am wating

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You are right about one thing, Tanzanians shouldn't be afraid of competition. But let me ask you are question. Generally speaking do you think Kenya is better off than Tanzania? Are the common wananchi in Kenya better than those in Tanzani? If Kenya was in another regional block i.e. West Africa, North Africa, Southern Africa towards South Africa, Namibia Botswana will you still be saying the same things?

Tumaini made a good point. How many of those "Kenyan companies are owned by Kenyans. The few elite Kenyans who hold the economy of the country are mostly those families in government, the Mois, Kenyatas, Odingas et al. There is a huge gap between the rich and the poor.

Kuhusu Kenya Airways please go to the company website and see it's shareholders and see how "Kenyan" it is. Let me help you please go here

http://www.kenya-airways.com/home/a..._information/shareholder_profile/default.aspx

Read the data then come back and talk.

So before you talk about a company being Kenyan look at the composition of shareholders. You will see that the largest shareholders are foreigners or the government let by the elite goons.

Mzalendohalisi said:

Wamalize vita kwanza!

Je ni Southern Sudan au Sudan yote na North?

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Unaanza sasa Mzalendohalisi Umeambiawasudan sio south sudan upo Mkuu Mzalendohalisi?

DRC will never Join EAC and it doesn't want or need EAC. There is only one country that DRC have respect for in EAC and that is TZ.


Kenya don't own anything in their country; Everthing is either Arabs, Indians and British and Odinga, Kenyatta and Mois.

In DRC presidents don't own anything , the land belongs to Kongolese people, No foreigner owns land in Kongo.

Keep in mind that Kongolese people will never share their country with Tutsi dominated Rwanda and Uganda.

I don't know anything in DRC media that stated that DRC is interested in EAC. DRC is too big to begg for a Union.

Kekuye said:

Wachina wanapokuja kuwekeza na kuvuna rasilimali Angola, DRC, Sudan na kwinginepo hawasemi nchi hizo zimalize vita kwanza. Sisi majirani ndiyo tunatafakari kuwa wamalize migogoro yao kwanza kisha tushirikiane nao. Ninafikiri tulitakiwa tutawaogope wachina zaidi kuliko Sudan na DRC kujiunga EAC.

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Mchina yupo Mbali sana na DRC na Sudan iweje awatake wamalize migogoro ambayo hata ikiendelea haitamuathiri? Sisi tupo karibu sana na hawa jamaa, kumbuka matatizxo ya DRC, yamesababisha wakimbizi wengi kumiminika Kigoma na kuleta athari kubwa ki-ulinzi, kijamii, kimanzingira na kiuchumi. Wamelize matatizo yao then tutawakaribisha, lakini sio North Sudan

Kama tunaungana kwa hiari yetu kwa lengo la kukwamua nchi zetu kiuchumi, ni jambo jema inafaa hata Africa nzima iungane. Ila kama tunaunganishwa na mabepari toka magharibi ili kutuweka pamoja nguvu kazi yetu na rasilimali zetu kisha kutunyonya kiurahisi kwa kutumia wingi wetu kama soko lao, basi hakuna haja ya kuungana.

hata wengine wengi kutoka sehemu mbali mbali wanakaribishwa!

companies gani? nakumatt is kenyan owned has held off shoprite from investing in kenya, safaricom successifully repelled vodacom from kenya(at the time the majority shareholder in safaricom was the kenyan govt) olympia capital holdings successifully repelled a south african company from investing in it and olympia capital went and invested in south africa. kenya airways(the pride of africa) competes with SA in africa. kenol/kobil is still competing with engen, actually kenol/kobil is doing better since the competion began, now they even have branches in ZAMBIA!!!! equity bank and kenya commercial bank are successifully competing witht the big multinational banks in kenya. and yes i left out the EABL vs SAB fight that EABL won. its thriving in the heat of the competition(that is what kenyans do) while the tanzanians melt like plastic. thats why it will take half a century before tanzania economy is on equal footing with kenya.

show me the tanzanian list of tanzanian owned companies that have successifully competed with SA companies. i am wating


Wewe Nomasana, kama ni hizo hela zilizoibwa kwenye Kenya Govt Treasury na dubious tenders walizopewa viongozi wakubwa wa Kenya na kwenda kuanzisha Nakummatt and the likes, kwa watanzania we r not interested in that kind of achievement. Najua kwenu u r ready even to kill for money, that's not our culture. Hata hivyo, subiri kidogo, iko siku Bank M, Ngurdoto Hotel, EA Hotel, Kibo Hotel, ANBEM na makampuni mengine tusiyoyajua, maana wanaficha will be repelling competitors like a crazy, lakini je, at whose expense is that achievement u r cherishing is realized. Ni shule/nyuo, hospitali au bara bara ngapi zingejengwa iwapo fedha zisingeibwa na hao mafisi. It looks like Fisadi Mkapa would have been a hero in your country, angezaliwa kwenu, he fits into a Kenyan culture, for us it was a curse.

nomasana said:

now sice there are countries with weak economies that tanzanians can advantage of, every tanzanian want to join with them but when kenyans are trying to do the same to tanzanians then somehow that is not fair.

nyinyi watanzania ni kigeugeu sana.

its a dog eat dog world. kenyans are coming to tanzania to exploit the tanzanian economy because the tanzanians are incapable of exploiting their own economy.

tanzanians will exploit the weaker economies of other countries. thats the way things are.

its a dog eat dog world and kenyans are coming to tanzania.

tanzanians are a bunch of hypocrites and the responses on this thread prove it.

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What w r interested in as TZs is the win win bussiness. Not to go to plunder Congo and make her people suffer. Nyie kama *** we don't fit historically. And we will never welcome to you. We can fit with all others except Nyang'aus, however, you may come at your own risk. There r a lot of things you need to sort out first, before thinking of uniting with cool headed people like Tanzanians. Baba/Babu zetu walipigania Uhuru na nyinyi mnataka kuja kufaidi matunda ya Uhuru hivi hivi, land less people nyie!. I don't even get u whn u say "u r coming to Tanzania". **** have always been coming to Tanzania, but how? with your Kipande/Gipande as wanted. Si tuliwapiga chini. Without a work permit? won't u have to struggle and pay for it? To grab our god land, r u allowed! If u sneak in illegally, that's ur problem, not my problem! TZs don't respect Kenyans, that's a fact, a mkora don't deserve respect, period! It's been always like that, now and forever, period! Pass a word to Smatta too!

Kanyabwoya said:

companies gani? nakumatt is kenyan owned has held off shoprite from investing in kenya, safaricom successifully repelled vodacom from kenya(at the time the majority shareholder in safaricom was the kenyan govt) olympia capital holdings successifully repelled a south african company from investing in it and olympia capital went and invested in south africa. kenya airways(the pride of africa) competes with SA in africa. kenol/kobil is still competing with engen, actually kenol/kobil is doing better since the competion began, now they even have branches in ZAMBIA!!!! equity bank and kenya commercial bank are successifully competing witht the big multinational banks in kenya. and yes i left out the EABL vs SAB fight that EABL won. its thriving in the heat of the competition(that is what kenyans do) while the tanzanians melt like plastic. thats why it will take half a century before tanzania economy is on equal footing with kenya.

show me the tanzanian list of tanzanian owned companies that have successifully competed with SA companies. i am wating


Wewe Nomasana, kama ni hizo hela zilizoibwa kwenye Kenya Govt Treasury na dubious tenders walizopewa viongozi wakubwa wa Kenya na kwenda kuanzisha Nakummatt and the likes, kwa watanzania we r not interested in that kind of achievement. Najua kwenu u r ready even to kill for money, that's not our culture. Hata hivyo, subiri kidogo, iko siku Bank M, Ngurdoto Hotel, EA Hotel, Kibo Hotel, ANBEM na makampuni mengine tusiyoyajua, maana wanaficha will be repelling competitors like a crazy, lakini je, at whose expense is that achievement u r cherishing is realized. Ni shule/nyuo, hospitali au bara bara ngapi zingejengwa iwapo fedha zisingeibwa na hao mafisi. It looks like Fisadi Mkapa would have been a hero in your country, angezaliwa kwenu, he fits into a Kenyan culture, for us it was a curse.

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evidence iko wapi yakuonesha hizo hela ziliibiwa na serikali zilitumiwa kuanzisha Nakumat? you think we are dumb dont you? Nilikuambia umention anything ya maana Tanzania ina export Kenya isipokuwa Ngetwa na waganga toka Arusha, not forgetting White dent.. LMFAO. Seriously, if those companies are foreign owned, as long as they are employing Kenyans and paying Taxes to the Gvt of the day, then why should I care.

Lets not lie to ourselves that just because a company is owned by my country men is beneficial to me personally (thats communist thinking of which is retrogressive, mine is mine not ours). So pliz that rhetoric of Kenyan companies being owned by whites or whatever is crap, tuna welcome foreign investors, if you really knew how your minerals are being exported in bulk without paying any taxes then you wouldnt talk like you are talking here. masomo ni kitu cha maana sana.

Smatta, even if you were given a chance to invest in Tanzania, will you do it? Una mtaji kiasi gani? nilikwambia FID minimum kwa Tanzania Investment Centre in USD 300,000..umekwenda ukakataliwa? na ukayimwa a Certificate of Incentives, we welcome investors as well, even served under one roof!. Now you crook, u want to come na kuanza kutengeneza fake cosmetics, to kill our people, that what you want. Unajiita mfanya biashara, hela huna, hizo biashara njaa njaa, hata Watanzania wanaziweza sana! Wewe Kipindu pindu kinawamaliza kwenu Kenya, badala ya kushughulikia matatizo yenu, mnakuja ku-solve ya kwetu, hatuwahitaji, losers you. Na uangalie unapogongewa mhuri pale Horiri, usiambukize watu kipindu pindu!

nomasana said:

now sice there are countries with weak economies that tanzanians can advantage of, every tanzanian want to join with them but when kenyans are trying to do the same to tanzanians then somehow that is not fair.

nyinyi watanzania ni kigeugeu sana.

its a dog eat dog world. kenyans are coming to tanzania to exploit the tanzanian economy because the tanzanians are incapable of exploiting their own economy.

tanzanians will exploit the weaker economies of other countries. thats the way things are.

its a dog eat dog world and kenyans are coming to tanzania.

tanzanians are a bunch of hypocrites and the responses on this thread prove it.

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That is a kenyans *** slogan and it's not the world slogan as you claims. Go west or east, every nation is striving to protect the well being of her people. The world goverments are not behaving like of yours, which is corrupt, poor and comprises with toilet and scunt greedy leaders. No one is for the society. That is why your coercive organs are keeping on slaughtering you like sheep, so as to protect wenye kny (wakubwa).

Dont talk vague things, just struggle on how to keep the house in order, those businesses you are talking about are shit if the majority of you are just haunting coz of the bad founded policy. think on how to protect your all people regardless their tribes.

Actually we dont wonder on the your (kenyans) slogan, becoz this was founded by your first president, who anounced immediate after independence that...WE HAVE KILLED THE ELEPHANT, NOW LET EVERY ONE CUT A FLESH ACCORDING TO THE SHARPNESS OF HIS/HER SWORD.

UNLESS YOU ABANDON THIS SLOGAN, KNY WILL KEEP ON BEING A MAN EATING MAN SOCIETY.....