Huyu Jamaa anajidai ni "much know " Sana,alafu anapenda kutanguliza matusi Sana hata kama mtu anatia maoni yake binafsi,cha msingi ni kumpuuza tu!Acha umama, huwezi jibu hoja bila kufanya personal attacks...kila mtu aha uhuru wa kuchangia maoni yake vile anaona inafaa...
By theway JPM kaingiaje hapa?and if you didnt know plan ya kwanza ya mzee mkapa na wenzie 2002 ilikua ni kupita isaka ili ku accomodate mradi wa kabanga Nikel, u can even refer speach ya JK alivyotembea mradi wa SGR after JPM died.
Once again jifunze kuheshimu maoni ya wenzio ht km hukubaliani nayo bila kufanya personal attack, ukion huwezi unaweza pia ku skip maoni yao, sio lazima uyajibu.
Mangosha utawajua tu hata wapewe vivid evidence ya sababu ya kwanini Burundi wametaka Uvinza Msongati badala ya Isaka-Keza watabisha! Uzuri JPM wa kulazimisha mambo hayupo! BTW neno ujuaji si tusi!Huyu
Huyu Jamaa anajidai ni "much know " Sana,alafu anapenda kutanguliza matusi Sana hata kama mtu anatia maoni yake binafsi,cha msingi ni kumpuuza tu!
Dada Geza pungunza mihemko ya period...tafta document inaitwa East Africa Railways Master Plan, Final report ya 2009 utakuta kuna The Isaka-Kigali Line with a Link from Keza-Musongati...hii study iliandaliwa 7yrs kabla ht JPM hachaguliwa kua raisi...hii habari ya kusema JPM alilazimisha umeitoa wapi au ndo period inakusumbua?Mangosha utawajua tu hata wapewe vivid evidence ya sababu ya kwanini Burundi wametaka Uvinza Msongati badala ya Isaka-Keza watabisha! Uzuri JPM wa kulazimisha mambo hayupo! BTW neno ujuaji si tusi!
Sasa kama partners ni Burundi na Tanzania na mteja ni Burundi na anasema anataka mzigo ufike Msongati ambapo makao makuu ya serikali na mji mkuu Gitega ni hapo huku reli ya SGR inayoenda Kigoma itahudumia pia Bujumbura na DRC kupitia lake Tanganyika, hiyo masterplan ya mbinafsi JPM is rendered null and void! Halafu usitukane maana najua kutukana pia!Dada Geza pungunza mihemko ya period...tafta document inaitwa East Africa Railways Master Plan, Final report ya 2009 utakuta kuna The Isaka-Kigali Line with a Link from Keza-Musongati...hii study iliandaliwa 7yrs kabla ht JPM hachaguliwa kua raisi...hii habari ya kusema JPM alilazimisha umeitoa wapi au ndo period inakusumbua?
Ushauri ukiwa MP take your timeoff, u look stupid mbele za watu.
Tafta document inaitwa East Africa Railways Master Plan, Final report ya 2009 utakuta kuna The Isaka-Kigali Line with a Link from Keza-Musongati...hii study iliandaliwa 7yrs kabla ht JPM hachaguliwa kua raisi...hii habari ya kusema JPM alilazimisha umeitoa wapi
1st. Master plan report iliandaliwa na EAT Community (inchi zote 5) mwaka 2009 at that time JPM alikua waziri wa Ardhi utasemaje hio report ya JPM, who was he to influence hio report at that point in time?Sasa kama partners ni Burundi na Tanzania na mteja ni Burundi na anasema anataka mzigo ufike Msongati ambapo makao makuu ya serikali na mji mkuu Gitega ni hapo huku reli ya SGR inayoenda Kigoma itahudumia pia Bujumbura na DRC kupitia lake Tanganyika, hiyo masterplan ya mbinafsi JPM is rendered null and void! Halafu usitukane maana najua kutukana pia!
Mangosha utawajua tu hata wapewe vivid evidence ya sababu ya kwanini Burundi wametaka Uvinza Msongati badala ya Isaka-Keza watabisha! Uzuri JPM wa kulazimisha mambo hayupo! BTW neno ujuaji si
Mzee hii report ni nishaisoma...kinachonishangaza report zipo na zinasema kuna link ya isaka-keza-msogati...ila still kuna vilaza wanataka kuaminisha wenzao kua link ya isaka keza ni mawazo binafsi ya JPM...JPM alichofanya ni ku change that plan into a reality...Mnyonge myongeni ila haki yake mpeni.
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Download Document - East African Railways Master Plan Study - Final Report - Jan, 2009
Mzee hii report ni nishaisoma...kinachonishangaza report zipo na zinasema kuna link ya isaka-keza-msogati...ila still kuna vilaza wanataka kuaminisha wenzao kua link ya isaka keza ni mawazo binafsi ya JPM...JPM alichofanya ni ku change that plan into a reality...Mnyonge myongeni ila haki yake mpeni.
Link Ya Uvinza-Msongati kwenye hiyo ramani haionekani sio? Mangosha bwana? Aisee ni kama expection ilikuwa kila kitu kipite Isaka! Nchi nzima isimame!
With Liganga and Mchuchuma mines set to be developed...The rail will be crucial ..pia hata kwa malawi watakuwa wanapitisha mzgo wao Mtwara ...ikipandisha hadi mbeya ..basi hata mizigo ya Zambia inaweza ikawa inapitia mtwara port ...Analysis imetulia mkuu.
Pia Kuna line ya Mtwara-Mbamba Bay-Mchuchuma. Hiyo italink nyanda za juu kusini na inaweza kupanda hadi central zone via Iringa.
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Its kind of diffcult kujua kwann hawana drive kama ile ya zamani..i thought Rwanda would be easier to do the project than Burundi ukiangalia na uchumi wao .they can easily get ..it is a 571km rail.ni ki compare na cost za dar to dodoma it might cost aroud 2.5bil usd..each country has to come with ratio depending on kilometers to be coveredRwanda wamebadili mawazo nini? Mbona Isaka-Kigali SGR ime-stagnate?
The rail is very crucial and strategic for the development of Southern corridor.With Liganga and Mchuchuma mines set to be developed...The rail will be crucial ..pia hata kwa malawi watakuwa wanapitisha mzgo wao Mtwara ...ikipandisha hadi mbeya ..basi hata mizigo ya Zambia inaweza ikawa inapitia mtwara port ...
it is an opinion..naona rwanda wako wanasusua..but whatever they choose ni maamuzi yao...i think watataka Isaka Keza Kigali...which will cost 2.5bn usd or more.but i will be an advantage to us Tz ..in case Uganda wants the rail..to pass via land wataichota mpakani mwa kagera kama Tz ataona ni sawa kujenga ..Kwahiyo wewe ndo unawapangia? Sio wao based on their geopolitical influence (kutopita nchi mbili) and distance to the sea? Wacha ujuaji wao ni wateja na wanaamua wapi ipite kutokana na interests zao! Rwanda wana-interest na Mwanza pia! Swala la cost halikuhusu wacha reli itapakae huko maana hiyo ya Rwanda kupitia Keza itamvuta Uganda!
We still need to build alot of ferries pia kwenye various lakesThe rail is very crucial and strategic for the development of Southern corridor.
Zambia, Malawi na hata DRC wanaweza kutumia Mtwara Port. Hata Zimbabwe nao wanaweza kuitumia. Kwa investment kubwa iliyofanyika na upanuzi wa bandari na uwanja wa ndege wa kimataifa huko inabidi wafocus na biashara kubwa ili kurudisha hiyo thamani ya uwekezaji kwenye miundombinu.
Bandari hiyo wasiishie kwenye korosho na chuma cha Liganga na makaa ya mawe alone. Kuna potential kubwa ya kuserve SADC katika logistics. Nchi nyingi hazina miundombinu bora na ya kisasa kama TZ katika ukanda huu.
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