Cost comparison SGR Kenya vs SGR Tanzania

Bantugbro · Jan 26, 2020

Aisee jamaa akisema hela ipo hua anamaanisha kweli ipo...

Ndege moja ya mizigo tayari iko ktk mipango, sema sasa itabidi waongeze ziwe mbili ili sisi wakulima tuweze kupeleka mboga na maua ktk masoko ya mbali kirahisi zaidi...

Tenda ya Phase 3, 4 & 5 zitatangazwa kwa pamoja very soon. Ujenzi utaanza Mwanza na Makutupora simultaneously watakuja kukutana Isaka...

Ikumbukwe kuwa urefu wa Phase 3 zilizobakia ni kama sawa na urefu wa Phase 2 za kwanza (tofauti ya 37 km only), so cost wise gharama ni kama sawa au bit less given the terrain.

Geza Ulole said:
Hapo kuna $300 mln Barrickgold wamesaini juzi! Hawa majamaa hawajui GoT ina mfuko maalum wa ujenzi ambapo kila mwezi Tshs 2 bln zinawekwa humo! Then kuna jamaa wa Airtel wanatoa the same amount $1 mln/month kama agreement ya kulipa hasara walioipatia TTCL ambayo inaenda kwenye ujenzi health fund inayojenga hospitali!

Ushauri
Kwa hiyo $300mln, mimi namshauri aanzishe another phase ya SGR construction esp. Mwanza to Isaka! Au anunue cargo aircraft mbili! Au ajenge wagon ferries nyingine kama 8 hivi kwa ajili ya Lake Tanganyika na Lake Victoria na 2 cargo ships for Indian ocean!

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Kanya · Jan 26, 2020

Bantugbro said:
Kumbe hujui kuwa lengo letu ni kubeba Nickel yetu kule Kabanga mines pamoja na heavy metals za DRC na Burundi?

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he he..reli yenu itaishia either in the Rwanda TZ border or in an inland depot in Rwanda hizo zingine ni hopeful dream ambazo si realist.There's NO way Burundi na Congo zitajenga their portion of that sgr but that said I'm looking at it this way, Max tonnage is 17m per year..why all that big an axle load of 35 whereas 25 can do the same work of hauling that nickel Hope you see my point..

Geza Ulole · Jan 26, 2020

Kanya said:
he he..reli yenu itaishia either in the Rwanda TZ border or in an inland depot in Rwanda hizo zingine ni hopeful dream ambazo si realist.There's NO way Burundi na Congo zitajenga their portion of that sgr but that said I'm looking at it this way, Max tonnage is 17m per year..why all that big an axle load of 35 whereas 25 can do the same work of hauling that nickel Hope you see my point..

If u know maths that maximum 17mln tonnage was either changa la macho or a mixture of Mungiki n Chinese cooked data in Kenya's SGR!

mng'ato · Jan 26, 2020

Bantugbro said:
Aisee jamaa akisema hela ipo hua anamaanisha kweli ipo...

Ndege moja ya mizigo tayari iko ktk mipango, sema sasa itabidi waongeze ziwe mbili ili sisi wakulima tuweze kupeleka mboga na maua ktk masoko ya mbali kirahisi zaidi...

Tenda ya Phase 3, 4 & 5 zitatangazwa kwa pamoja very soon. Ujenzi utaanza Mwanza na Makutupora simultaneously watakuja kukutana Isaka...

Ikumbukwe kuwa urefu wa Phase 3 zilizobakia ni kama sawa na urefu wa Phase 2 za kwanza (tofauti ya 37 km only), so cost wise gharama ni kama sawa au bit less given the terrain.

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Ni kweli mkuu akisema hela ipo hua ipo kweli kweli si unaona tangu 2015 mpk leo anaajiri graduates wengi saaana kila mwaka,watumishi wanapandishwa madaraja na increments wamelipwa tangu aingie madarakani,wastaafu wanalipwa pesa fasta tu(mifuko ya hifadhi ina mapesa mengi saaana).

Inshort akisema hela ipo ni kweli ni nyingj mnoooooo.

dodge

Bantugbro · Jan 26, 2020

Hahaha,
Acha miundombinu ijengwe kwanza, ukiangalia kazi aliyofanya utaona ni jinsi gani tulivyokuwa nyuma...

mng'ato said:
Ni kweli mkuu akisema hela ipo hua ipo kweli kweli si unaona tangu 2015 mpk leo anaajiri graduates wengi saaana kila mwaka,watumishi wanapandishwa madaraja na increments wamelipwa tangu aingie madarakani,wastaafu wanalipwa pesa fasta tu(mifuko ya hifadhi ina mapesa mengi saaana).

Inshort akisema hela ipo ni kweli ni nyingj mnoooooo.

dodge

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mng'ato · Jan 26, 2020

Bantugbro said:
Hahaha,
Acha miundombinu ijengwe kwanza, ukiangalia kazi aliyofanya utaona ni jinsi gani tulivyokuwa nyuma...

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Ni kweli mkuu acha wazalendo tuishi maisha haya huku tukiendelea kujenga miundo mbinu kwa kasi mkuu

dodge

THE BOILER ROOM · Jan 27, 2020

Kanya said:
he he..reli yenu itaishia either in the Rwanda TZ border or in an inland depot in Rwanda hizo zingine ni hopeful dream ambazo si realist.There's NO way Burundi na Congo zitajenga their portion of that sgr but that said I'm looking at it this way, Max tonnage is 17m per year..why all that big an axle load of 35 whereas 25 can do the same work of hauling that nickel Hope you see my point..

Duh huu sasa ubishi wewe unafikiri watasafirishaje izo heavy metals kutoka inland kwenda kwenye mataifa makubwa yenye uhitaji?! Na ndio maana tumekaa nao tuset standard moja all the way to DRC ili wapate unafuu,timely na waweze kusafirisha mzigo mkubwa zaidi kwa wkt mmoja.Hawa ni wateja wetu kwenye bandari ya Dar es Salaam.

Ngokongosha · Jan 27, 2020

Bantugbro said:
Aisee jamaa akisema hela ipo hua anamaanisha kweli ipo...

Ndege moja ya mizigo tayari iko ktk mipango, sema sasa itabidi waongeze ziwe mbili ili sisi wakulima tuweze kupeleka mboga na maua ktk masoko ya mbali kirahisi zaidi...

Tenda ya Phase 3, 4 & 5 zitatangazwa kwa pamoja very soon. Ujenzi utaanza Mwanza na Makutupora simultaneously watakuja kukutana Isaka...

Ikumbukwe kuwa urefu wa Phase 3 zilizobakia ni kama sawa na urefu wa Phase 2 za kwanza (tofauti ya 37 km only), so cost wise gharama ni kama sawa au bit less given the terrain.

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Mkuu umepata wapi hizi habari za phase 3, 4 na 5?
Kama ni kweli zitatangazwa na kuanza ujenzi mwaka huu litakuwa Jambo zuri Sana.
Kama hili likifanyika Nina uhakika 2022 tutaanza ya kuelekea kigoma, 2024 itakuwa kipande cha Moshi Arusha.

Phase 3 challenge kubwa ni kwenye bonde la ufa.
Phase 4 hakuna challenge kubwa na ni fupi Sana.
Phase 5 sijui watafuata ruti ipi, wakifuata njia ya sasa kuna mtihani kidogo ukiwa unaingia mza kuna milima, inaweza hitaji kupasua au kujenga tunnel(s).

Geza Ulole · Jan 27, 2020

Kanya said:
he he..reli yenu itaishia either in the Rwanda TZ border or in an inland depot in Rwanda hizo zingine ni hopeful dream ambazo si realist.There's NO way Burundi na Congo zitajenga their portion of that sgr but that said I'm looking at it this way, Max tonnage is 17m per year..why all that big an axle load of 35 whereas 25 can do the same work of hauling that nickel Hope you see my point..

Geza Ulole · Jan 27, 2020

Kanya said:
he he..reli yenu itaishia either in the Rwanda TZ border or in an inland depot in Rwanda hizo zingine ni hopeful dream ambazo si realist.There's NO way Burundi na Congo zitajenga their portion of that sgr but that said I'm looking at it this way, Max tonnage is 17m per year..why all that big an axle load of 35 whereas 25 can do the same work of hauling that nickel Hope you see my point..

Geza Ulole · Jan 27, 2020

Kanya said:
he he..reli yenu itaishia either in the Rwanda TZ border or in an inland depot in Rwanda hizo zingine ni hopeful dream ambazo si realist.There's NO way Burundi na Congo zitajenga their portion of that sgr but that said I'm looking at it this way, Max tonnage is 17m per year..why all that big an axle load of 35 whereas 25 can do the same work of hauling that nickel Hope you see my point..

Geza Ulole · Jan 27, 2020

Kanya said:
More fundamental differences,
1)22m ton pa Kenya vs 17m tons pa TZ
2)Herringbone Kenya vs hydroseeding tz
3)a planned 1.1m pax pa tz vs 1.6pax in 2018
4)Short term tz, 24 trains for 300 days and 20 for the remaining 65 days to allow periodic maintenance vs 26 trains throughout the year (short term 2025-2030)
5)Tz's electric vs Kenya's diesel electric.

Herringbone myfoot! where did u get that number 4) can u give a proof!

Two workers died after wind collapsed a section of SGR

Kenya Railways Managing Director Atanas Maina has finally talked about the Monday December 18 incident that left two Nairobi – Naivasha Standard Gauge Railway (

www.standardmedia.co.ke

Winds brought down SGR bridge at Maai Mahiu, says Kenya Railways

Two people were killed and five injured.

www.nation.co.ke

Kanya · Jan 27, 2020

Geza Ulole said:
Herringbone myfoot! where did u get that number 4) can u give a proof!

Two workers died after wind collapsed a section of SGR

Kenya Railways Managing Director Atanas Maina has finally talked about the Monday December 18 incident that left two Nairobi – Naivasha Standard Gauge Railway (

www.standardmedia.co.ke

Winds brought down SGR bridge at Maai Mahiu, says Kenya Railways

Two people were killed and five injured.

www.nation.co.ke

Your sgr ESIA final report.. Tafuta

Geza Ulole · Jan 27, 2020

Kanya said:
Your sgr ESIA final report.. Tafuta

I read whole of ESIA report and nothing like that s stated! BTW? How long did it take before u repaired this less than a year right? Naskia juzi imebomoka tena! 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 👇

😀 😀 😀 😀☝

Abunwasi · Jan 27, 2020

Teargass said:
Hehehe I said it[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Tanzanian can never and will never teach me anything concerning English. So in your whole life you have never heard of the word "Tiresome"?[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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I think you are a pinhead. Being proud about speaking white man's lingo fluently but poor local language? Soo sad.
Say it loud-' Im black and proud'

Bottas · Jan 27, 2020

Geza Ulole said:
I read whole of ESIA report and nothing like that s stated! BTW? How long did it take before u repaired this less than a year right? Naskia juzi imebomoka tena! 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 [emoji116]

😀 😀 😀 😀[emoji121]

Hiyo ni retaining wall ya Redhill road sio ya sgr ....lakini endelea kupiga punyeto

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Zigi Rizla · Jan 27, 2020

Bottas said:
Hiyo ni retaining wall ya Redhill road sio ya sgr ....lakini endelea kupiga punyeto

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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji1787]

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Zigi Rizla · Jan 27, 2020

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Teargass · Jan 27, 2020

Punctuation please, make good use of them.

Abunwasi said:
I think you are a pinhead. Being proud about speaking white man's lingo fluently but poor local language? Soo sad.
Say it loud-' Im black and proud'

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Bantugbro · Jan 27, 2020

Mkuu ,

Subiri utapata habari zote mda ukifika, si unajua kuna watu hawakawii kwenda kuanza kupiga kelele wakijua in details jinsi tulivyojipanga.

Karata tumezishika karibu kabisa na vifua vyetu, tunakwenda kwa timing kali, kama tusingekua na pesa hatukua na haja ya kujenga Stieglers kabla hatujamaliza SGR...before end of the second quater tenda zote za remaining phases zitatangazwa kwa mpigo.

Kuna kajamaa kutoka kwa jirani kanachanganya mambo, SGR hii inayojengwa sasa inaelekea Mwanza, mipango ya ile SGR branch ya kutoka Isaka ICD kwenda Rusumo border ya TZ - Rwanda yenye urefu wa 310 km ni tofauti kabisa na hii.

Branch ya SGR ya kwenda DRC na Burundi itaanzia Uvinza kigoma hadi Msongati kama 240 km hivi...

Blow to Northern Corridor as Tanzania signs deal to link SGR to Burundi, DRC

Kenya had marketed its own SGR as the cheaper and more efficient route.

www.theeastafrican.co.ke

Ngokongosha said:
Mkuu umepata wapi hizi habari za phase 3, 4 na 5?
Kama ni kweli zitatangazwa na kuanza ujenzi mwaka huu litakuwa Jambo zuri Sana.
Kama hili likifanyika Nina uhakika 2022 tutaanza ya kuelekea kigoma, 2024 itakuwa kipande cha Moshi Arusha.

Phase 3 challenge kubwa ni kwenye bonde la ufa.
Phase 4 hakuna challenge kubwa na ni fupi Sana.
Phase 5 sijui watafuata ruti ipi, wakifuata njia ya sasa kuna mtihani kidogo ukiwa unaingia mza kuna milima, inaweza hitaji kupasua au kujenga tunnel(s).

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