Bible's verses contradictions

nyabhingi · Jun 3, 2017

Bst1 said:
Genesis 2:20-22

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

hiyo ni genesis 2,genesis 1 inasema adam na eve wote waliumbwa kwa wakati mmoja

26 Then God said, “Let us make human beingsa]">[a] in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth,b]">[b] and the small animals that scurry along the ground.”

27 So God created human beingsc]">[c] in his own image.
In the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

28 Then God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground.”

29 Then God said, “Look! I have given you every seed-bearing plant throughout the earth and all the fruit trees for your food. 30 And I have given every green plant as food for all the wild animals, the birds in the sky, and the small animals that scurry along the ground—everything that has life.” And that is what happened.

31 Then God looked over all he had made, and he saw that it was very good!

And evening passed and morning came, marking the sixth day.

Elungata · Jun 3, 2017

philos said:
First and foremost there is no book which is called Bible. In Greek language any book is a "Biblos", still Bible is the collection of several books, the canon of the Bible, say 72 or 73, there are reformers who reduced them to 66. The Jews themselves maintain the SEPTUAGIN.

There is NO contradiction whatsoever in the Bible. Contradiction means doing and not doing one thing at the same time.

The Bible is NOT God, neither God is the Bible. The Bible is the human initiative inspired by the Holy Spirit to understand God.

For example, The Book of Genesis have two accounts on the creation of man, this is because in the Yahwistic tradition they had different stories on the beginning of human being. There are those who favors the feminist approach - man and woman were made together, and there are those who favors male dominion - man was created first. At the end they agreed to incorporate both stories in the Bible.

In Hebrew tradition a question is answered by a question eg Jesus was asked are you a King of Jews, he answered by asking are you saying by yourself or someone has told you? Jesus was also asked is it legal to pay taxes? he answered by asking whose image is in the coin? etc etc.

The Bible is the book of faith and never a book of questions and answers!(Kiongozi cha mwalimu)

mbona husemi kuwa hawa yahwist walikuwa wanaabudu mungu aliyeitwa YHWEH.

Na hao Eloist walikuwa na mungu wao alieitwa El.

Na kwamba Elohist walikuwa wamebase israel kingdom,
mji mkuu ukiwa samaria.

Na hao Yahwist wakibase judeh kingdom mji mkuu ukiwa ni jerusalem,

na kwamba baada ya israel kingdom kutekwa na waasyria na hayo makabila 10 kutawanywa hapo ndo waliunganisha maandiko na kujaribu kuyayafanya yanatoka source moja,

lakini tatizo ndo hivyo wakawa wanasahau baadhi ya vifungu kuvi edit na hivyo vifungu ndo vinapingana kwasababu vilitoka vyanzo viwili tofauti

nyabhingi · Jun 3, 2017

Stefano Mtangoo said:
Its a wonder someone who believes we are nothing but molecules tries even to reason. Let me help you, you cannot reason more than chemicals in laboratory or monkeys in the jungle can. Accoding to your worldview you are nothing but an ape. So your whole questions on "contradictions, "defend" and "fail" are meaningless. You do not have any base to ask let alone reason.

Trying to reason (using the laws of logic for example) or infer morality (that contradiction is a bad thing) implies you are special creating with morality and mind to reason. All the two are things your worldview cannot account for. So there is no contradiction in your worldview nor there is anything bad or good (so you shouldn't be ranting about "bad" thing namely contradiction in the Bible)

In short your worldview is self destruct and as such you steal my Biblical worldview to make sense of such words as "contradictions, "defend" and "fail" which makes no sense according to your beliefs.

So stop ranting about things that makes no sense in your worldview and stop stealing foundations from Biblical Christianity and trying to use them to disprove the same. You make no sense in your argument at all.

You talked about contradiction and I clearly showed your deception and now you have jumped to a different topic? Oh! Yeah! Am already used to people like you who makes gazillion of rabbit trails that leads to no where.

Just know that your original post is deceptive and that as I have shown you have no ground to reason at all!

you are so damn goodat writing essays,why don't you want to say something on this plagiarism of christianity?

Asklepios healed the sick, raised the dead, and was known as the savior and redeemer.
Hercules was born of a divine father and mortal mother and was known as the savior of the world. Prophets foretold his birth and claimed he would be a king, which started a search by a leader who wanted to kill him. He walked on water and told his mother, "Don't cry, I'm going to heaven." when he died. As he passed he said, "It is finished."
Dionysus was literally the "Son of God", was born of a virgin mother, and was commonly depicted riding a donkey. He healed the sick and turned water to wine. He was killed but was resurrected and became immortal. His greatest accomplishment was his own death, which delivers humanity itself.
Osiris did the same things. He was born of a virgin, was considered the first true king of the people, and when he died he rose from the grave and went to heaven.
Osiris's son, Horus, was known as the "light of the world", "The good shepherd", and "the lamb". He was also referred to as, "The way, the truth, and the life." His symbol was a cross.
Mithra's birthday was celebrated on the 25th of December, his birth was witnessed by local shepherds who brought him gifts, had 12 disciples, and when he was done on earth he had a final meal before going up to heaven. On judgment day he'll return to pass judgment on the living and the dead. The good will go to heaven, and the evil will die in a giant fire. His holiday is on Sunday (he's the Sun God). His followers called themselves "brothers", and their leaders "fathers". They had baptism and a meal ritual where symbolic flesh and blood were eaten. Heaven was in the sky, and hell was below with demons and sinners.
Krishna had a miraculous conception that wise men were able to come to because they were guided by a star. After he was born an area ruler tried to have him found and killed. His parents were warned by a divine messenger, however, and they escaped and was met by shepherds. The boy grew up to be the mediator between God and man.
Buddha's mother was told by an angel that she'd give birth to a holy child destined to be a savior. As a child he teaches the priests in his temple about religion while his parents look for him. He starts his religious career at roughly 30 years of age and is said to have spoken to 12 disciples on his deathbed. One of the disciples is his favorite, and another is a traitor. He and his disciples abstain from wealth and travel around speaking in parables and metaphors. He called himself "the son of man" and was referred to as, "prophet", "master", and "Lord". He healed the sick, cured the blind and deaf, and he walked on water. One of his disciples tried to walk on water as well but sunk because his faith wasn't strong enough.
Apollonius of Tyana (a contemporary of Jesus) performed countless miracles (healing sick and crippled, restored sight, casted out demons, etc.) His birth was of a virgin, foretold by an angel. He knew scripture really well as a child. He was crucified, rose from the dead and appeared to his disciples to prove his power before going to heaven to sit at the right hand of the father. He was known as, "The Son of God".

mlimilwa · Jun 3, 2017

chuma cha mjerumani said:
ok baki ulivyo.

Hiyo ya kwanza inaonyesha mungu kaumba MTU mke name MTU Mme.

Hiyo ya Pili inaonyesha mungu kamtengeneza MTU kutoka kwa MTU mwingine.
Hapo ndipo kwenye utofauti.
Kwanza unatakiwa ujue ,kuumba ni kujenga kitu ambacho hakikuwepo kabisa.

Kutengeneza ni kulekebisha kitu ambacho tayari kimejengwa na unafanya ukarabati tu.

Kwahiyo hapo wakwanza kaumba watu wawili to fauti na hapo namba 2.mmojawapo katengenezwa.

xbs · Jun 3, 2017

Bst1 · Jun 3, 2017

nyabhingi said:
hiyo ni genesis 2,genesis 1 inasema adam na eve wote waliumbwa kwa wakati mmoja

26 Then God said, “Let us make human beingsa]">[a] in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth,b]">[b] and the small animals that scurry along the ground.”

27 So God created human beingsc]">[c] in his own image.
In the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

28 Then God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground.”

29 Then God said, “Look! I have given you every seed-bearing plant throughout the earth and all the fruit trees for your food. 30 And I have given every green plant as food for all the wild animals, the birds in the sky, and the small animals that scurry along the ground—everything that has life.” And that is what happened.

31 Then God looked over all he had made, and he saw that it was very good!

And evening passed and morning came, marking the sixth day.

Mimi sio mtaalam wa Biblia ila navyofahamu ni kuwa Genesis chapter two imeelezea creation process in detail na hapo ndo inaonyesha Adam aliumbwa kwanza akafuata Eva.

doup · Jun 3, 2017

nyabhingi said:
nani aliumbwa kwanza?adam au eva?

Kwa hii namba 1. naona hakuna kukinzana chapter 2 inafafanua chapter 1 nani alianza kuumbwa.

nyabhingi · Jun 3, 2017

Bst1 said:
Mimi sio mtaalam wa Biblia ila navyofahamu ni kuwa Genesis chapter two imeelezea creation process in detail na hapo ndo inaonyesha Adam aliumbwa kwanza akafuata Eva.

basi genesis one waliumbwa wote kwa pamoja..read for youself

Elungata · Jun 3, 2017

Hata ukisoma habari ya noah nako kuna vyanzo viwili narration inatofautiana,
ukisoma habari za musa na joshua.

Ukicheki habari ya daud na goliath

etc

nyabhingi · Jun 3, 2017

doup said:
Kwa hii namba 1. naona hakuna kukinzana chapter 2 inafafanua chapter 1 nani alianza kuumbwa.

si kweli,biblia sio muvi!!!
genesis 1 inajieleza wazi kuwa aliwaumba kwa wakati mmoja,akawabariki na kuwaambia wakazae na kuongezeka...nionyeshe wapi kwenye genesis 1 mungu nasema nitaelezea nilivyoanza kumuumba adam!!!

nyabhingi · Jun 3, 2017

Elungata said:
Hata ukisoma habari ya noah nako kuna vyanzo viwili narration inatofautiana,
ukisoma habari za musa na joshua.

Ukicheki habari ya daud na goliath

etc

kwenye noah ndio vichekesho kupindukia

izazi · Jun 3, 2017

Eiyer unaharisha kwa kifupi unaongea pumba

Eiyer · Jun 3, 2017

izazi said:
Eiyer unaharisha kwa kifupi unaongea pumba

Sawa sawa mkuu....

Mtangoo · Jun 3, 2017

Al-Watan said:
Mimi si Kiranga. Kwanza tukubaliane hulo.

heheee. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, it is a whale.... sawa sio kiranga

chuma cha mjerumani · Jun 3, 2017

mlimilwa said:
Hiyo ya kwanza inaonyesha mungu kaumba MTU mke name MTU Mme.

Hiyo ya Pili inaonyesha mungu kamtengeneza MTU kutoka kwa MTU mwingine.
Hapo ndipo kwenye utofauti.
Kwanza unatakiwa ujue ,kuumba ni kujenga kitu ambacho hakikuwepo kabisa.

Kutengeneza ni kulekebisha kitu ambacho tayari kimejengwa na unafanya ukarabati tu.

Kwahiyo hapo wakwanza kaumba watu wawili to fauti na hapo namba 2.mmojawapo katengenezwa.

acha kujichanfanya bwashee wote waliumbwa kutokana na vitu.

adam kutokea kwenye vumbi
eva kutoka kwenye mbavu.

usichanganye creation na inovation.

Mtangoo · Jun 3, 2017

nyabhingi said:
you are so damn goodat writing essays,why don't you want to say something on this plagiarism of christianity?

Its hard to even argue with somebody who thinks is all that is there is materials. Then he wants us to use immaterial "laws of logic"and morality. It can't get harder than that.

until you understand you are special creation not a better ape, am out! Can't argue with such a deluded fella!

nyabhingi · Jun 3, 2017

Stefano Mtangoo said:
Its hard to even argue with somebody who thinks is all that is there is materials. Then he wants us to use immaterial "lawas of logic"and morality. It can't get harder than that.

until you understand you are special creation not a better ape, am out! Can't argue with such a deluded fella!

just like i thought,you can not dispute that,your white people bible is merely a copy and paste of ancient scripture from different countries...i am out

doup · Jun 3, 2017

nyabhingi said:
si kweli,biblia sio muvi!!!
genesis 1 inajieleza wazi kuwa aliwaumba kwa wakati mmoja,akawabariki na kuwaambia wakazae na kuongezeka...nionyeshe wapi kwenye genesis 1 mungu nasema nitaelezea nilivyoanza kumuumba adam!!!

kwangu wakati mmoja siyo nanosecond moja!
wakati mmoja inaweza kuwa siku moja au week moja au kipindi kimoja cha tukio fulani.

NB. Natumua logic tu. ndio maana nimeongelea kipengere cha kwanza tu.

philos · Jun 3, 2017

Elungata said:
mbona husemi kuwa hawa yahwist walikuwa wanaabudu mungu aliyeitwa YHWEH.

Na hao Eloist walikuwa na mungu wao alieitwa El.

Na kwamba Elohist walikuwa wamebase israel kingdom,
mji mkuu ukiwa samaria.

Na hao Yahwist wakibase judeh kingdom mji mkuu ukiwa ni jerusalem,

na kwamba baada ya israel kingdom kutekwa na waasyria na hayo makabila 10 kutawanywa hapo ndo waliunganisha maandiko na kujaribu kuyayafanya yanatoka source moja,

lakini tatizo ndo hivyo wakawa wanasahau baadhi ya vifungu kuvi edit na hivyo vifungu ndo vinapingana kwasababu vilitoka vyanzo viwili tofauti

I was answering according to the question at hand why there are seems to be contradictions! To many they think the Bible is entirely one book and was written at a certain place in given year!

Mtengwa II · Jun 3, 2017

Hizi contradictions haziwezi kuharibu uhusiano wa Mungu kwa mwanadamu! Piga sala/swala. Bible/Quran zimeandikwa na mwanadamu ingawa maneno yake mengi ni yaki-Mungu!!

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