PlanckScale
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- Sep 28, 2008
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You have made my day on this topic....Science tuko nyuma,wao wanategemea science na sisi tunategemea imani,licha ya kwamba wao wanjidai kama miungu watu kwa maana kwamba science ni uwezo wao wa kiungu na sisi ni kuwa na imani tu,Africa tunahitaji mabadilio makubwa sana licha ya kwamba si rahisi kwa kizazi hiki kubadilika moja kwa moja lakini ni lazima tupande mbegu zenye kutengeneza mazingira mazuri for the next generation.
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I could not help but thinking I was reading my own thoughts. I am amazed by how similar your thinking is to mine on this issue. Duuh, unanitisha mwanangu...
Just because some of you think that you don't need God doesn't mean that Africa doesn't.
Kwa nini mungu mwenye upendo atengeneze dunia yenye shetani? Au kwa nini mungu mwenye upendo aruhusu mazingira yanayoweza kusababisha kuwepo kwa shetani? Ina maana mungu alipotengeneza dunia alikuwa hana uwezo wa kutengeneza dunia nzuri zaidi ambayo haina shetani? Kama hakuweza basi si mungu muweza yote, kama aliweza basi si mungu mwenye mapenzi yasiyo kikomo, kwa sababu katengeneza dunia yenye kishawishi licha ya kuweza kutengeneza dunia isiyo kishawishi.
Kama mungu ni mwenye haki watoto wadogo wanaouawa bila hatia haki yao inatoka wapi? Wayahudi milioni sita waliouawa na NAZI haki yao iko wapi? Mababu zetu waliochukuliwa utumwa kwa mamia ya mamilioni na wengine kujitupa baharaini, wengine kupigwa vibaya, wengine kuhasiwa, wengine kuchomwa moto haki yao iko wapi? Umeshaona sinema za "Escape From Sobibor" "The Killing Fields" "Hotel Rwanda" "The Devil Came on Horseback" ? Hizi ni picha tu, ukweli wenyewe ulikuwa mbaya kuliko hizi picha.Josip Stalin aliuwa watu wengi kuliko Hitler, wale Cosacks aliowaua mpaka population pyramid ya Soviet Union ika collapse haki yao iko wapi? yule mtoto mdogo anayegongwa na gari wakati akienda kanisanai haki yake iko wapi?
Ili kumnyang'anya authority ilibidi ampe kwanza, huyu mungu inaonekana hayuko responsible, amempa kichaa rungu, kampa shetani authority sasa shetani ana wreack havoc mungu anashindwa kum control!
Kwa nini mungu aliye righteous aingie makubaliano na shetani in the first place? Huyu mungu atakuwa way below President Ronald Reagan wa Marekani aliyesema "we do not negotiate with terrorists".Mungu ana negotiate na shetani? Kwa nini? Kwa sababu anamuogopa au vipi? Hata kama anampenda cha kumfanya ni kumbadilisha, siyo ku negotiate naye.
Katika scenario ya mungu mwenye kuweza yote na kujua yote bina damu hana will, binadamu anaishi katika Calvinistic predestination tu, living as a two bit actor in god's great play, either that or god is not all knowing and therefore not all powerful. Huwezi kuwa na binadamu mwenye free will na mungu anayejua kila kitu, it is a contradiction, a sure fallacy.
This is a sad case of blaming the victim, na wale watoto wasiojua kitu wanaozaliwa katika umasikini na kufa kwa kwashiokor je? Wale wenye mi nzi kibao inawazonga mdomoni, wasioweza hata kupata maziwa ya mama zao kwa sababu mama wenyewe hawana afya na inabidi kutembea maili kumi kutafuta maji, nao walichagua suffering? Kwa nini mungu anaachia mambo mabaya yawatokee watu wema/wasio hatia? Je mungu hana uwezo wa kuwasaidia au hajali?
And just because some Africans think that Africa needs God, that does not mean that Africa need God.
Heck, some Africans think that Africa need colonialism, or Santa Claus, does that make it so.
Your statement does not prove anything.Can you engage the forum by addressing the matters presented?
My intention was not to prove anything, it was to make a statement which I did and that is my way of addressing the matter. The right to think that Africa needs santa or colonialism is theirs and so is mine. Our views might not suit yours, deal with it
I mean when lenses were not invented all persons in those generations did not believe that there existed other things which can not seen by human eyes; so dear a human brain can not explain in explicity why things seems to be like what you claim to be these are the satanic manifestation to prove wrong what are the intensions of our loving God sasa labda nikwambie hivi in life there are truth, facts and hypotheses, zamani scientists tulikuwa tukifanya testing ya hypotheses tuna sema either reject or accept null hypotheses siku hizi tuna sema fail to reject because we can not substantiate the fact that something is so meaning that there are truth and truth so what is truth, God's word are truth and all humanbeings words are facts based on experience as we go on with innovations we come into understanding that our theories (facts) are not static they change as we come near to the truth so far we have a proof of many laws, theories and hypotheses being discarded the good example ni hii economic crisis and that prove to us our brains do not have enough capacity to reveal the exact truth but we operate through iteration towards the truth direction and some even go to the opposite sometimes we round there (supposing we have a mean of fact with a confidance interval) then what is truth to us is how our precition is compared to the truth according to the author of creation being God or any you would want to name. So far the truth is proved by one person that he died and he rose as he said; if you read history then you would appreciate Jesus existed and that he rose becuse its documented if so then either of this is true about him wheather was lunatic or wise because what is documented about him no other humanbeing has ever done or claimed to have done before his existence. Suppose we propose he was lunatic then those who do not believe him wouldnt have bothered to document those stories but if the second is true then he has proved that god exists if you are neutral then something is wrong with your brain for everything takes a position and we have a law which states that fact and so you woul'd be an outlier in our data and according to science we can omit and still carry on with our propositions.
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