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World Cup 2010: Lampard calls for goal-line technology

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  1. BAK

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    World Cup 2010: Lampard calls for goal-line technology

    Lampard effort not given

    England's Frank Lampard joined the calls for goal-line technology after he was denied a clear goal in England's World Cup exit against Germany. A Lampard shot clearly crossed the line but was not spotted by the officials.
    "We had a meeting before the World Cup when we were told about a million different rule changes that hardly affect the game," he said.

    "The big one, the one that affects the game today, hasn't been brought in so it is a no-brainer."
    England were 2-1 down in the last 16 World Cup clash when Lampard hit the bar with an effort that, as TV replays confirmed, dropped well over the line.
    It was a pivotal moment for England, who went on to lose 4-1, as they had just pulled a goal back through Matthew Upson after falling behind to strikes from Miroslav Klose and Lukas Podolski.

    "It was a clear goal - 40,000 knew it and I knew it, but there were two people that didn't," added Lampard. "It certainly affected the game and we're bitterly disappointed."
    Disallowed goal was turning point - Lampard

    Germany keeper Manuel Neuer admitted his side were lucky not to conceded.
    He said: "I tried not to react to the referee and just concentrate on what was happening - it was difficult. I knew it was close.

    "Then I saw it on the television in the doping control office and what actually happened. I knew it was tight - probably about two metres!"
    Fifa has consistently refused to entertain the idea of using goal-line technology and video replays, a position underlined less than four months ago by the International Football Association Board.

    "The door is closed. The decision was not to use technology at all," said Fifa general secretary Jerome Valcke in March, shortly after the handball by Thierry Henry that secured France an equaliser against the Republic of Ireland in a World Cup qualifier.

    "Technology should not enter into the game, it was a clear statement made by the majority of the IFAB," added Valcke. "Let's keep the game of football as it is."

    But Ex-England skipper Alan Shearer said: "All the managers and the stars of football are calling for it. Not everyone can be wrong, can they?"
    Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp said Sepp Blatter, president of world governing body Fifa, should be "embarrassed".

    He added: "In the modern world we've got technology, let's use it."

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    So we don't need goal line technology then Mr Blatter. You should look at Frank Lampards goal and resign tonight


    Instead of going in at half-time all-square, Fabio Capello's side were left to contemplate a 2-1 deficit, and their woes increased when Thomas Muller struck twice after the break to wrap up victory for Germany.

    Redknapp added: "We've all seen it on the replay - it was just amazing. That was a clear-cut goal and it was absolutely vital to England and it wasn't given.

    "Technology has got to come into games, we've seen that today."
    Redknapp's sentiments were echoed by both the England manager Fabio Capello and Shearer.

    "It was the most important moment of the game," said Capello. "Where is the technology? Instead we are talking about goal or no goal."

    Shearer added: "It was over [the line] by a good yard, it was not even close.
    "In fairness to the assistant, he cannot be in line with it because of where the ball has come from. It has come from the edge of the box so he can't be in line with it."

    Few associated with England would share that view after events in Bloemfontein, but Germany could be forgiven a sense of schadenfreude.
    The latest incident echoed the famous moment in the 1966 World Cup final between England West Germany when the second of Geoff Hurst's three goals was adjudged to have crossed the line after coming off the bar. England went on to win the game 4-2.

    Regrettably for England, the referee on this occasion, Jorge Larrionda of Uruguay, did not show the latitude of his 1966 counterpart Gottfried Dienst.
  2. BAK

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    FIFA hawana pa kukimbilia kuhusu issue hii. Hawawezi kupingana na wachezaji wa sasa, wa zamani, makocha, wapenzi na washabiki wa kandanda duniani kote. Let's preserve the reputation of Football by introducing instant replay as soon as possible.
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    It is about time

    Jamie Trecker is a senior soccer writer at FoxSoccer.com. A working journalist for 25 years, he covers the Champions League, European soccer and the world game

    Updated Jun 27, 2010 5:47 PM ET

    June 27, 2010 may go down as the day when soccer was forced to grow up.

    After years of increasingly absurd arguments against using technologies widely embraced by other sports, FIFA saw their reticence come back to bite them as major blunders affected two games Sunday in the knockout round.

    The entire world watched as the “human factor” cost a major European nation a goal this afternoon in Bloemfontein— and arguably that team a legitimate shot at a place in the next round. The only people in the world who didn’t know that Frank Lampard scored for England against Germany to tie the game up before the half at 2-2, were the referee and his assistant in the German half of the field.

    In the evening, Mexico was sunk by a clearly offside goal scored by Argentina’s Carlos Tevez, and despite a touchline conference between ref Roberto Rosetti and his assistant Paolo Calcagno, that goal was allowed to stand.

    Replays rapidly showed how wrong these calls were. The players knew it. The coaches knew it. The Jumbotron operator knew it. My aunt in Rhode Island, some 10,000 miles from the stadium, knew it. And according to the BBC, during the halftime intermission, the referees found out about it — and were devastated by it.

    So if these blunders can be discovered so rapidly by replay, why isn’t soccer using it?
    Because it is against one of the cardinal rules of the world game.

    Soccer is a sport that pretends TV does not exist except when it comes time to sell the rights. FIFA has fought violently against adding replay and using goal-line technology, going so far as to spin out increasingly bizarre experiments — such as the ill-fated five-man officiating crew and the microchipped ball — in an effort to counter the now almost universal feeling that it is time the sport joined the rest of the world.

    Why such resistance?

    Some of FIFA’s misgivings about introducing replay are reasonable: They have watched our NFL make a fetish of the camera, and rightly note that a running-time game cannot be halted to allow official review. There is also a justified fear that if FIFA allow stoppages in play, it would change the essential nature of the game and possibly open the door for television companies to demand timeouts for advertising.

    While they are right on resisting TV interference, that doesn’t mean replay couldn’t or shouldn’t come into the game. Other leagues, the NHL being the notable example, do not stop play while “missed” goals are reviewed. Sunday, the fourth official certainly could have reviewed Lampard’s goal while play continued, then signaled the referee to blow the whistle and restart from the center circle. After all, the officials now can communicate with one another thanks to their headsets — even if many suspect that the crew does not use them.

    FIFA’s argument against that simple notion is, bluntly, absurd. They openly fret about the “loss of authority” from their man in the middle, as if somehow the honor of an official is more important than getting the calls correct. Since fans do not show up to see the officials, and since so much money is riding on the modern game, it’s difficult to take that claim with a straight face. And is the fourth official under such a workload on the sidelines that he couldn’t peek at a TV?

    Goal-line technology is also well-tested — again, in other sports. It’s not infallible — the red light did not come on for Patrick Kane’s Stanley Cup-winning goal this month, but the TV replay clearly confirmed the score— but it is highly accurate. It’s difficult to imagine in an age in which baseballs can be tracked at over 100 mph and hockey pucks can be seen at 80 to 90 mph, that a soccer ball traveling 75 mph cannot be.

    The truth is that until this World Cup there was no real will from FIFA to make changes that would level the playing field. As the Americans discovered against Slovenia, if you are not a “big power,” you don’t always get the big calls. FIFA’s president, Sepp Blatter, has claimed that this is part of the charm of the game.

    Now that the founders of the game have been hijacked, one suspects that such “charm” appears grating, and that conversations in FIFA headquarters in Zurich will become more insistent.

    It’s about time.
  4. Nyani Ngabu

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    I co-sign without any reservations whatsoever. How FIFA can ignore this from here on out is beyond me
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    FIFA dig in over technology demands

    1 hour, 4 minutes ago

    JOHANNESBURG (AFP) - FIFA has steadfastly refused to act on calls to introduce technology to arbitrate on contentious decisions after refereeing mistakes marred Sunday's two last 16 matches at the World Cup.

    Fans and media around the world on Monday urged football's world governing body to react to persistent demands for the introduction of technology to adjudicate on controversial refereeing decisions.

    But FIFA's official spokesman Nicolas Maingot said the organisation's stance remained the same on the non-use of technology, even though its use is widespread in other popular global sports, tennis, Formula One, rugby, field hockey and cricket.

    "We will not open any debate on refereeing decisions at the daily media briefing, this is not the place for this and you will appreciate that I am not competent to do that," Maingot told reporters.

    Answers have been demanded of FIFA after major refereeing blunders in Sunday's Germany-England and Argentina-Mexico second-round matches, which were beamed around the world.

    Midfielder Frank Lampard had a perfectly good goal ruled out in England's 4-1 mauling by Germany in Bloemfontein.

    Lampard's shot bounced off the underside of the German crossbar in the first half and landed a yard over the goal-line but it was missed by both Uruguayan referee Jorge Larrionda and his assistant.

    Then in the following match at Soccer City, replays showed that Carlos Tevez was clearly in an off-side position when he was awarded the opening goal in Argentina's 3-1 defeat of Mexico.

    FIFA's refusal to use video technology to rule on contentious decisions in football has long been criticised with its president Sepp Blatter insisting the referee will always remain the ultimate decision-maker at all levels of the game.

    Maingot was consistently questioned at the FIFA daily media briefing on Monday about his organisation's position on goal-line technology and television replays to adjudicate on controversial off-side decisions.

    Asked by one reporter which was the appropriate place where journalists could ask questions about the use of technology, Maingot said: "We have a referee's committee and the International Football Association Board and those are bodies that are dealing with refereeing on a permanent basis.

    "There is an open media day with referees tomorrow and if there are any announcements to make in terms of refereeing either during or after the World Cup, of course, we will do that."

    Another journalist asked if FIFA were embarrassed and had become a laughing stock because they cannot stop major bad decisions from being seen in World Cup matches around the world.

    "FIFA is not working on refereeing after the case, it has been working on refereeing for many years and FIFA works in conjunction with other confederations and associations and refereeing was a global part of the game and we will continue to work on this," Maingot said.

    Another questioner said it was the duty of FIFA to urgently answer the questions that football fans around the world were asking.

    Maingot said there were no plans for FIFA president Sepp Blatter or general secretary Jerome Valcke to speak on the burning subject on Monday.

    Maingot also said FIFA was investigating why the giant video screen at the Soccer City ground showed a replay of the controversial Tevez opening goal in contravention of an understanding it had with the local organising committee.

    "There was a controversial incident shown on the giant screens at Soccer City and this should not have happened," he said.

    "It is handled by the organising committee and last night was a clear mistake and this should not happen and we will have a closer look at that."
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    Akifungwa mweusi aaaahhhh, akifungwa yeye sasa..... ni kweli lilikuwa goal but what a difference could it make?

    Hawapendi kufungwa, na leo ni zamu ya Brazili sasa..ole wao
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    Elli upo sahihi ingawa wadau wanaleta data nyingi tu - hii ni kwa sababu England ilikataliwa goli lakini kumbukeni England imecheza game 4, tathmini ya game zote ni udhaifu wa hali ya juu - lakini kwa kuwa ni Uingeleza basi hili jambo litakuwa kwenye Headlines wiki nzima duniani sababu hawa jamaa wanajua kuongea na media na kulalamika, hawakosi visingizio. Sasa hivi wanasema hilo goli ndiyo lilikuwa turning point ya ushindi wao. bado sikubaliani na Lampard nipo upande wa FIFA kwamba hizi new technologies zikiingizwa kwenye Soccer zitaharibu radha yake. itafikia hatua tuwe tunasubiri video replays na kubishana mara nne tano hivi kabla ya uamuzi Kuchukuliwa - sasa huo utakuwa mchezo gani? hii haitakuwa soka itakuwa ubishi mtupu.

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    Ingawa pengine hata wangepewa lile goli labda lisingebadilisha matokeo. Lakini wanayo hoja....kufungwa au kufunga mara zote kuna affect wachezaji kisaikolojia. So labda wangepewa lile goli lingewapa nguvu zaidi ya kupambana na hatimaye kuwashinda wajerumani!

    Ingawa kwenye soka waingereza sio my favorite, lakini kwenye hili kwa hakika wanayo haki ya kulalamika!
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    Naam SMU, goli lile lingeweza kabisa kubadilisha momentum ya mchezo maana halftime timu zingekuwa nguvu sawa 2-2 na hivyo wa kwa mama labda kurudi na nguvu mpya. Tatizo si goli la jana tu lakini kuna controversial decisions nyingi tu sehemu mbali mbali duniani na hata katika michezo iliyopita katika WC hii ambayo inaharibu kabisa ladha ya mchezo.
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    England showed a poor game right from the group stage....wanaosema lile goli lingekuwa turning point wanatafuta kuficha aibu yao tu. German waliwazidi england kwa kiwango kikubwa sana, na washukuru |Mungu wamefungwa 4-1, binafsi kilivyoanza kipindi cha pili na kasi ya wajerumani nilijua waingereza wangefungwa hata 7-1 kama nduku zao wa Korea DPR!!

    Cha msingi warudi nyumbani London na watafakari wamekosea wapi na wajirekebishe wakija Rio d 2014 wafanye mambo!!

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    Unachosema kuhusu timu ya Waingereza ni kweli, lakini Wapenzi tumechoshwa na controversial decisions zinazoharibu mchezo kwa ujumla. Nani atapenda kuona bingwa wa kombe la dunia anapatikana kwa kufunga goli/magoli ambayo hayakustahili kuwa magoli? Nani atapenda kuona timu inakataliwa goli/magoli yake na hatimaye kukosa ushindi katika mchezo ambao walistahili kushinda.

    FIFA hawana jinsi watajibaraguza tu huku na kule lakini instant replay ni lazima iruhusiwe watake wasitake. FIFA officials hawawezi kuendelea kupinga matakwa ya wachezaji wengi wa sasa, wa zamani, makocha na wapenzi na washabiki wa mpira duniani ambao sasa wameona umuhimu mkubwa wa kuwa na instant replay ili kuhakikisha mshindi anayepatikana katika kila mechi ni mshindi halali.
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    FIFA hawana sababu yoyote ya kukataa goal-line technology unless kama kuna mabo ya kamali wanajiusisha nayo.
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    That is part of football charms. Well said. Achana na reply au video. Mtatuharibia sola letu, hasa kwa sisi huku Tukuyu ambako hata umeme hakuna!
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    Nyie huko Tukuyu mnaweza kuendelea na system iliyopo hivi sasa mpaka hapo hali ya umeme wa uhakika itakapotengemaa, lakini hakuna sababu yoyote katika mashindano makubwa yoyote duniani kama Kombe la Klabu bingwa za Afrika mashariki na ya kati, Afrika, Mataifa ya Afrika, EURO Cup, World Cup kuendelee kuwepo na controiversial decisions miaka nenda miaka rudi wakati tuna technology ambayo inaweza kabisa kumaliza utata huu ili kudumisha reputation ya kandanda duniani.
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    Am a big fan of EPL, but ain't a fan of England, i was glad kuwa wamekuwa eliminated mapema. At the end of the day it is only controversial when the Big mouthed England are get involved., ideally, isingekuwa hilo goli lao 'kukataliwa' basi wangesingizia kuwa Vuvuzelam u lah Jabulani kuwa ni reason behind their elimination. All in all, England hawakuwa na world class ya WC, wana individual talents ila hawana team play. Walikuwa kama bunch of f**ls who brought together huku kila mtu akicheza anavyojua yeye, its like, wacheza tennis, soka, basketball, netball na ndondi grouped together kucheza soka.
    They were simply outclassed.
    Soka sio Rugby bana kukawa na such replays. To hell wth them!