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WAZUNGU what do you think of them?

Discussion in 'International Forum' started by Game Theory, Mar 6, 2008.

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    Game Theory JF-Expert Member

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    Either kazini au sehemu mbali mbali...baada ya kukaa nao,kusoma nao na kufanya kazi nao i they wont sieze to come up with some interesting and no so interesting things. hebu tupeane mbinu za kudeal na hawa watu.

    Mimi naweza kusema kuwa nakaribia kuwa graduate wa hawa binadamu so you got qns plse ask
     
  2. Steve Dii

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    You seem to hold the answer but you went ahead and asked anyway, the very thing you attempted to blast Asha Abdalla with on the thread slating Prezzo's son.

    Back to issue Game...

    I'am not sure where you are reaching with your question bruv (as I think there is a racialism tone to it- something I'm strongly against), nevertheless, I can't resist myself having a go, thus my brief lame undertake on this issue would be:

    1. Biologically - They are human beings just like you and me (in principle of living organisms, or better still, primates!)

    2. Socially - They team up with their peers, friends and family in sorrow and happiness, with same emotions and conversely similar apathy like you and me, but only in a different economical environment from what is readily perceivable in Tandahimba or Buguruni Kwa Manyani.

    3. Culturally – Quite different from us, minor similarity but with strong will to adopt others' for enthusiasts and those compelled.

    4. Ingenuity – To tamper with nature for own (humanity or lineage sake) benefit regardless of the consequence, but keeping record in the way. (us – sorry will discuss in different thread, I promised Nyani Ngabu and Masanja …:) )

    5. Systemic – High regard to law governing systems, developmental and for own subsistence, in short; they are transformational activists. (In contrary, many exceptions in the current under 18 generation – call it: generation Youtube, generation MP3, generation Facebook !!)

    6. Fantasy – Unusual fantasies and weird desires prevalent in society. Tolerated and easily achievable, but with catastrophic outcomes where uncontrolled, unregulated or unnoticed.

    7. Ethics – Business, moral, institutional, etc vary accordingly!

    8.

    9.

    (NOTE: this is neither an attempt to give clear learned differences nor similarities for that matter; rather, a shortlist of concise observable things that I personally encountered albeit fleetingly in my life)


    SteveD.
     
  3. zomba

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    Hakuna cha mzungu wala muhindi wala mwafrika.

    wote ni binaadam natumejaaliwa lugha na ukabila ilitufahamiane tu. Mbora kati yetu ni yule mcha Mungu.
     
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    Duh,

    Wazungu gani unaowaongelea? Urban Liberals, Conservatives,Hill Billy White Trash, Neo-Nazis etc etc?

    Is there a common thing among all wazungu's apart from the color of their skin? Is this a gross overgeneralization?

    Do you also believe that, "black people are this" "black people are that" "black people love chicken and watermelon"?
     
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    Ukiachilia mbali rangi yao ya ngozi, wako sawa na sisi kwa kila kitu, ni binadamu tu kama sisi, sijui kwanini wewe unawaona special kiasi hiki hadi kuwaanzishia thread?
     
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    Of course they do love chicken and watermelons, and collard greens, etc. etc....
     
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    Wameendelea na kustaarabika kuliko sisi

    Hivi bila wazungu Nyerere angeweza kuwa Mtanganyika wa kwanza kweli kupata digrii?
     
  9. Pundit

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    I like neither watermelon nor collard green, and yet my skin is black.How do you explain that?
     
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    Nyani Ngabu Platinum Member

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    Who said it is each and everybody?

    Tanzanians elected Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete as the fourth president of the United Republic of Tanzania. Is this also a gross over-generalization? I never voted to elect him.....how do you explain that?
     
  11. Steve Dii

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    You are a blackman who happened to like chicken but neither watermelon nor collard green!! :)
     
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    So the overgeneralization does not hold.
     
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    Na wale ma hillbilly rednecks wameendelea na kustaarabika kuliko sisi? Sisi ni nani?

    Hizi overgeneralization za "sisi" "wao" "wazungu" "weusi" zinakuwa stretched too far.Tell me something about Neo-Nazis, Hill billy rednecks, urban liberals naweza kukusikiliza, ukiniambia kuhusu "wazungu" utakuwa umegeneralize too much to make any sense, you need to be more specific to qualify any argument.
     
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    Bana eeh...hapa kinachuzungumziwa ni ujumla wa jamii na sio individuals...

    Sisi kama jamii na wao kama jamii...get it?

    Mfano mdogo na mzuri....Marekani ni nchi tajiri kushinda nchi zote...does it mean every American is well off..? No...
     
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    "Sisi kama jamii" in this context is an illusion to be pursued but never attained.Kama hata huwezi ku define mweusi ni nani unawezaje kufanya comparison?

    Analogy yako ya Marekani hai apply kwa sababu kuna a strict definition ya Marekani ni wapi na nani ni Mmarekani.Katika issue ya "wazungu" neno lenyewe Caucasian lina debate sasa kama huwezi kufanya definitions utafanyaje comparisons?

    Watu wa Albania wanachukuliwa kuwa ni wazungu, je wameendelea kuliko "weusi"?
     
  16. Nyani Ngabu

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    What do you mean I can't define mweusi ni nani? Yaani race ya mtu na yenyewe inahitaji definition....come on man..

    Sasa naona una-complicate mambo kwa makusudi ku-shift debate wakati subject matter haiko ambiguous...

    Come with a better tactic than that....
     
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    Define mweusi ni nani, or for that matter mweupe ni nani.
     
  18. Nyani Ngabu

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    Mweusi ni mtu mwenye negroid features....
    Unataka pia ni define negroid features ni nini?
     
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    yeah, negroid features ni zipi? maana bila hizo definition yako haijatimia. Ni kama vile umesema a meter is a unit of length whose prototype is kept in Paris bila kuelezeas hiyo prototype ikoje.

    Now if you give me something definitive kama "distance traveled by light in a vacuum in 1/299,792,458 of a second." that will be definitive.
     
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    Negroid features are characterizes by dark skin pigmentation, thick lips and noses, coarse (velcro type) hair......is that enough?
     
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