The rise and fall of Colonel Muamar Gadaffi

NATO politically bankrupt: Historian
Fri Jul 8, 2011 2:42PM




"The only policy that NATO has is murder, political assassination; it is a level of barbarism which we haven't seen in the past several hundreds of years," American author and historian Webster Tarpley told Press TV on Friday.

"It is the sign of political bankruptcy of NATO," Tarpley said.

He noted that the Western alliance's bombings of the North African country has caused "a tremendous humanitarian emergency" and resulted in the death of many civilians.

The analyst pointed out that the military alliance has gone beyond its UN mandate and is harming civilians instead of protecting them.

"NATO (forces) are attacking food storage depots,... [They]...have set up a kind of blockade along Libyan sea coasts which have nothing to do with the no-fly zone," he said.

Tarpley said the coastal blockade is preventing Libyan fishermen from going out into the sea, which is their main source of food.


He added that the war in Libya would have ended a long time ago, had it not been for the NATO's intervention.

Tarpley supported Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov's statement that NATO's campaign in Libya has reached a stalemate, adding that daily reports of revolutionaries making advances in the North African country come from "Aljazeera and other highly unreliable media sources."

The UN Resolution 1973 adopted in March authorized countries to take all measures necessary to protect Libyan civilians from the ongoing fight between forces loyal to Libya's embattled ruler Muammar Gaddafi and revolutionaries.

Four months into the war, anti-Gaddafi troops have been making limited progress.

PressTV - NATO politically bankrupt: Historian
 
kutokana na gharama za simu miaka ya 90 africa ilikuwa inailipa ulaya kwa kutumia settlite yao ya Intelsat dola 500 kwa mwaka,
gadafi aliamua kuinunulia africa setilite ili kuondokana na gharama kubwa inayoilipa ulaya kwa mwaka,
hayo mabomu tunayoyaona leo libya ni hasira za wazumgu kuwanyima dola 500 kwa mwaka!

mambo hapa si mafuta tu kama wengi wanavyodhani-USA na LIbya washakuwa na migogoro tangu zamani-sasa ukichnganya past crisisis na kwa kuwa rais bado ni yule yule tu aliekuwa anawasumbua tangu zamani-ni lazima wang'ang'anie kumtoa-ndio maana Obama alisema..."it is USA policy,Gaddaf to go..."sasa wao wanachanganya ugomvi wao wa mwanzo,mafuta walionayo na sababu nyingine-then wanafight huku wakiona kuwa wao watashinda na watakuja faidika
UNAWEZA ANGALIA HISTORIA NDOGO YA USA NA LIBYA TANGU MIAKA YA 8O's
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Bombing_of_Libya_(1986)
1986 Berlin discotheque bombing -
 
Very good mkwawa,Gadaf muda alio kaa lazima wamchoke haijalish alifanya mangap kwa wananch wake manake sie kikwete miaka sita lakin tunataman angelitoka hata leo tu,yaani viongozi wa Africa wanashangaza angalia kikwete anasababisha tuichukie nchi yetu kwasababu ya umeme,na siku tukiandamana kwasababu ya umeme atfute pa kwenda manake na iman itakua mpaka kieleweke tumechoka naahad za uongo.
 
do you know how much the west wastes on aid in afrika annually? 500 mil fedha kichele! Get a life..
Ivi katika 2011 bado kuna watu wanaoamini eti wazungu "wanaisaidia Africa". The West has never "wasted" money in Africa. They have always gained, unfortunately!
 
Pamoja na hayo kuna suala la mafuta, haja ya kuwadhibiti magaidi na islamic fundamentalists
 
France appeared on Sunday to shift its position on the Libyan uprising, suggesting that there could be no military solution and that Muammar Gaddafi loyalists and Libyan rebels should begin direct negotiations.

However, Paris also said its objective was still that Libyan leader Gaddafi must eventually leave power -- a condition virtually certain to be rejected by a hitherto defiant Gaddafi. The rebel leadership, for its part, has insisted that Gaddafi must leave power before talks can even begin.

French Defence Minister Gerard Longuet told local television on Sunday that it was time for both sides to sit round a table to reach a political compromise.

France says time for political solution in Libya | News by Country | Reuters
 
A Libyan business delegation loyal to embattled ruler Muammar Gaddafi has travelled to Israel and held meetings with senior Israeli politicians.


It was not immediately clear why the pro-Gaddafi delegation visited Israel but according to Israeli sources, the Libyans travelled to Israel in a bid to repair the tarnished image of their nation and ruler.

The Libyan delegation of four businessmen has reportedly met with Israel's opposition leader Tzipi Livni, who had expressed support for anti-Gaddafi protesters when a popular uprising began against his rule.

According to Israel Channel 2 News, the Libyans gave Livni a CD containing a personal recorded message from Gaddafi.

They also met with Kadima lawmaker Meir Sheetrit and Jews of Libyan origin in Netanya.

The Libyan delegation's visit has caused a dispute between Israeli interior ministry and foreign ministry with each blaming the other for granting visas to the Libyans.

The Libyan delegation obtained visas from the Israeli embassy in Paris after gaining approval from Israeli security services.

Meanwhile, unconfirmed reports suggest that the embattled Libyan ruler might seek asylum in Israel.

Israel's Channel 2 News last year interviewed two Israeli Jewish women of Libyan origin who claimed to be relatives of Gaddafi.

"The story goes that Gaddafi's grandmother, herself a Jewess, was married to a Jewish man at first. But he treated her badly, so she ran away and married a Muslim sheikh. Their child was the mother of Gaddafi", said Rachel Saada, who claimed to be a distant relative of Gaddafi.

Should their story be true, which would make Gaddafi a Jewish, then Israel would be obligated by its own laws to grant him asylum.

Libya has been the scene of intense fighting between government troops and revolutionary forces since mid-February.

Tripoli and some western provinces remain under Gaddafi's control while the revolutionaries hold Benghazi, most of the east and several western cities.

The deadly conflict has left thousands of people dead and many others wounded.

Revolutionary forces want an end to Gaddafi's decades-long rule.

Source:PressTV - Libyan govt. delegation visits Israel
 
Walalahoi wa "bondeni" waandamana kupinga mabomu ya NATO Libya!

 
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the French defence minister said on Monday that it was time for the rebel Council to come to the negotiating table with Gaddafi's administration.

"Our envoy to [Nicolas] Sarkozy said that the French president was very clear and told him 'We created the [rebel] council, and without our support, and money, and our weapons, the council would have never existed'," the newspaper quoted Saif al-Islam as saying.

"France said: 'When we reach an agreement with [Tripoli], we will force the council to cease fire'," the newspaper quoted Gaddafi's son as saying.

Gaddafi regime 'in talks with France' - Africa - Al Jazeera English
 
The crisis is man made, the problem is AU and African leaders who play double cross game. However, with this situation, Gaddafi should make strong decision to quit, to avoid further punishment of Libyans.
 
Hypocrites at work!

After all this bombings and unnecessary loss of life they are now talking of a polityical solution? Why didn't they start with negotiations in the first place?
 
Ufaransa eti wanataka mazungumzo ya Democracia sasa hivi ila D.c hawamtaki Gaddafi awepo madarakani ila hawatomkamata.Baada ya AU kutowaunga mkono na uvamizi wao huo,Wazungu ni wanafiki.
 
Rosemarie, kwanza hongera kuanzisha thread ya mambo ya maana hata kama jukwaa silo.

Pili hoja ya satelite ni kweli, ila sio dola 500 kwa mwaka, ni dola 500 kwa mwaka, ni dola laki 5!, Yaani ni 500,000.

Ila sio hivyo tuu, ametaka kuanzisha muungano wa Africa, United States of Africa ili Afrika iwe na nguvu kuliko Marekani, alipanga kuanzisha Bank of Africa na African Monetary Fund ili bara Africa tusiyategemee haya mashirika makubwa ya fedha ambayo ni ya kibeberu.

Kufuatia mipango hiyo, Marekani na kimada wake Uingereza wakaamua Gadafi lazima aondoke!.

Its very sad Waafrika hatulioni hili na tunawaacha wafanye wanavyotaka!.

Viongozi wengi wa Afrika ni wanafiki ile mbayaaaaaa, hawaoni ama wanaona kwa kuwa wanajali matumbo yao, ubinafsi umewajaa mpaka wanatia hasira. Gadafi ameachwa peke yake hakuna wa kupigia kelele unyama na uharibifu unaotendwa na hawa manyang'au kule Libya.
 
TUZIDI KUPATA UKWELI KILICHOWAPELEKA LIBYA ......

Laaska News July 5,2011
Alexei Chernichenko

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U.S. President Barack Obama has clinched a secret deal with opposition leaders in Libya regarding the extradition to the United States of the longest-surviving organizer of the 1988 Lockerbie bombing, former Libyan secret agent Abdelbaset Al-Migrahi. He was sentenced to life in Britain but was later allowed to return to Libya.

According to the UK media, the essence of the deal is as follows: after the Libyan rebels occupy Tripoli, they are to seize Al-Megrahi and hand him over to the U.S. forces. He will then be deported to a neutral Arab country and from there to the United States to stand trial. During a pre-trial investigation, Al-Megrahi will hopefully uncover proof of Muammar Gaddafi’spersonal involvement in the Lockerbie case.

On December 21, 1988 when a Pan American World Airways passenger jet crashed near the town of Lockerbie, Scotland, killing more than 270 people, mostly U.S. citizens in what was suspected to be Libya’s revenge for U.S. air bombings of Tripoli and Benghazi in 1986.

Eleven years later, Libya extradited two former intelligence officers, suspected organizers of the Lockerbie attack, to Britain, Al-Megrahi among them. In 2001, a Scottish court found him guilty and sentenced him to a life imprisonment. Later, he was diagnosed with cancer with the doctors saying that his days were numbered. In August 2009, Al-Megrahi was freed by the Scottish government on compassionate grounds and deported to Libya.

Alexei Podtserob, a senior analyst with the Institute of Oriental Studies in Moscow and a former Russian ambassador to Libya, takes a look at the prospect of Al-Megrahi’s arrest.

“A man can’t be punished twice for one and the same crime. This is a downright violation of international law. Speaking about the Lockerbie case, it was closed after West European leaders, including the Italian prime minister, the French president and many others, met with Gaddafi.

Finally, re-arresting a convict on the same charges to unearth additional proof against Gaddafi is a direct step towards aborting attempts to promote a political settlement in Libya at a time when the first signs of a tentative rapprochement between the Libyan factions began to emerge. And the last point. Al-Megrahi comes from Magarha, one of Libya’s largest tribes. Tribal solidarity is of great importance there. Thus, the move will push the Magaraha tribe to support Gaddafi.”


President Barack Obama has reportedly informed the Libyan rebels that al-Migrahi’s extradition is the main condition for further U.S. support of the Libyan opposition. British media quote senior U.S. intelligence sources as saying that Al-Megrahi did not fall into a cancer-induced coma, as many would have expected him to, but is living in his own house in Tripoli with his wife and four children.

Chanzo>>>
War in Libya:Obama’s secret Libya deal « Laaska News http://laaska.wordpress.com (laaskanews.com)
 
UJUE MPANGO WA KUITEKA AFRIKA KUPITIA LIBYA ULIVYOANDALIWA!!!
laaska News July 12,2011

The NATO-led intervention in Libya and the unrest in Syria are both steps in a decades-long plan by the US and its allies to completely reshape the face of Africa, believes independent journalist and peace activist Thierry Maysan
.

“It’s quite obvious that the USA wanted to enter war at the same time with Libya and Syria. That wish was made public by John Bolton in 2002. The plan was passed over to France and Britain, who decided to bring it to life in November last year,” the author believes.


What is called public uprising of the free-loving people are actually coup attempts staged by the Western nations
, Maysan says.
The operation in Libya in particular is marked by an astounding number of lies fed to the public, he added.

“By the time of the UN Security Council vote everyone had decided on the basis of reports submitted to the council. And the Security Council was certain that during the demonstrations in Benghazi the government killed 6,000 citizens – a terrible number. But now five months later the prosecutor at the International Criminal Court, which accused the Libyan leadership, has reduced the number… Now the prosecutor is building up his evidence on 208 victims instead of 6,000,” he pointed out.


In another example, footage was circulated by foreign TV channels allegedly showing Gaddafi’s soldiers raping women in retribution for the uprising. The video later turned out to be a rare Libyan amateur porn flick, Maysan said. The lies are meant to hide what the West wants to do in the region,
the journalist believes.

“NATO keeps lying at every stage, which is surprising, because during the war in Kosovo NATO would normally lie only to conceal its mistakes. This time it’s being done not to conceal the mistakes, but to conceal the strategy,” he told RT.

The initial plan to overthrow the government in Tripoli has now obviously failed, so now the strategy has change
d, the journalist believes.

“Western TV channels don’t speak of oppression and rebellion anymore, but of a civil war, thus trying to prepare public opinion for a declaration to divide the country into two parts: Cyrenaica on one side and Tripolitania on another, with the UN forces in between to separate the parties
,” he said.

Civilian losses are not important for those behind this plan,
Maysan says.
“From the moment it was decided to launch this operation, the lives of civilians have not been taken into account. Everything we used to see in the Middle East is not transpiring in this region. This is just a beginning. It’s just a question of re-arrangement of this region, and we are yet to see a series of wars,” he expects.

The scenario for Syria was designed in exactly the same way as the scenario for Libya, but it went in another direction,
the activist argues.

“I think some countries, Russia included, thought better of it and prevented it. That is why at the moment there is no war in Syria. Even though some Western leaders repeat every day that it is necessary to go to war,” he said.

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