Nyani Ngabu
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Kwa taarifa yenu, niliwahi kumsikia hata Nyerere akichapia; Mkapa, Mbeki, Obasanjo, Moi, Museveni na wengine wengi tu!!!!!
Rais wa Tanzania anatakiwa atoke among the best of our minds.Mimi nakataa kuwa the best of our minds hawajui hata Kiingereza.
Yes, he should!! Do you always speak good (grammatically correct)English? I will give a pass to anyone whom English is their third or fourth language. It's not easy. Not easy at all. I am around native English speakers everyday who don't always speak grammatically correct English...Hata sisi wenyewe hatuzungumzi Kiswahili fasaha kila siku. Msikilize hata Mwanakijiji kwenye matangazo yake. Saa ingine ana-stumble (sijui Kiswahili chake) akitafuta (ma)neno. Au msikilize yule dada mwenye kipindi cha mapenzi bongoradio....saa ingine hata maneno ya kiswahili hayajui na matokeo anakuwa anachanganya kiswahili na kiingereza.
Kwa taarifa yenu, niliwahi kumsikia hata Nyerere akichapia; Mkapa, Mbeki, Obasanjo, Moi, Museveni na wengine wengi tu!!!!!
Jakaya Kikwete said:well, our excitement is that President Bush is at the end of his term, and the U.S. is going to get a new President, whoever that one is.
Na mimi nilishawahi kumsikia Ahmed Tejan Kabbah akiwa so eloquent nilitamani siku moja rais wa Tanzania aweze kuongea vile.
Clearly you are not equating Kikwete to Mkapa,Mbeki or Obasanjo in that department, are you? Toa reference, two wrongs do not make a right.Even if the said president's did bungle a verb or two, still it doesn't make it right for Kikwete to do the same.We demand the best in every aspect from all our leaders.
If just expressing themselves is a problem what do you expect in international negotiations which involve 3d chess underwater with no gas masks while swimming with sharks without being eaten alive?
English is the least qualifications, and we are dismissing even that!
Pundit,
..JK served as a Min' of Foreign Affairs for 10 good years. English, not swahili, is the official language of our government. He should have no excuse for not speaking good english.
Unajua tatizo letu Watanzania tunadhani kujua lugha ya kingereza ni ishara ya usomi na siku zote mtu akijua kingereza hata kama ni mbumbumbu wa kutupwa basi ataonekana msomi. Ndio maana tunaishia kuajiri illiterate kutoka West wasio na elimu ya kutosha kisa tu wanajua kingereza. Hongera JK umefanya kazi nzuri kwenye Press Conference na Bush.
Hapana bwana hili kosa ni dogo mno wala sio la kubebea bango. Wakati mwingine watz tunazidi kujishusha; mbona miafrika mienzetu huwa inapuyanga tu kiingereza tena inakosea sana tu lakini sisi tunakuwa too keen ndio maana matokeo yake tunakosa confidence ya kuongea kiingereza mbele za watu. Waangalieni wenzetu wa Nigeria wanakosea sana tu kiingereza tena pronounciation ni zero, lakni hawababaiki wanakwenda tu. Vilevile mbona tukikosea kuongea kiswahili hatu-mind vile lakini ikija kiingereza inakuwa issue, lugha ambayo to some of us ni ya tatu hata ya nne? Hapa napo tunahitaji ukombozi, uzuri wa hili tatizo kulitatua hatuhitaji dola za Bush, ni kubadilika kichwani tu basi!
Jakaya Kikwete said:well, our excitement is that President Bush is at the end of his term, and the U.S. is going to get a new President, whoever that one is.
Yes, he should!! Do you always speak good (grammatically correct)English? I will give a pass to anyone whom English is their third or fourth language. It's not easy. Not easy at all. I am around native English speakers everyday who don't always speak grammatically correct English...Hata sisi wenyewe hatuzungumzi Kiswahili fasaha kila siku. Msikilize hata Mwanakijiji kwenye matangazo yake. Saa ingine ana-stumble (sijui Kiswahili chake) akitafuta (ma)neno. Au msikilize yule dada mwenye kipindi cha mapenzi bongoradio....saa ingine hata maneno ya kiswahili hayajui na matokeo anakuwa anachanganya kiswahili na kiingereza.
..jamani kinachogomba ni CONTENT ya kile alichozungumza. hilo ni tatizo kwa mtu aliyekuwa Waziri wa Mambo ya Nje kwa miaka 10 mfululizo.
Kweli lugha ni kitu muhimu. Lakini hata siku moja sijawahi kuona Foreign press (hususan zile kutoka nchi kama Marekani au Uingereza) zikimbeza kiongozi wa taifa jingine kwa kuzungumza kiingereza ambacho si fasaha. Pia vi-grammatical error vidogo vidogo sio nongwa hata kidogo. Hata Waingereza wanavifanya. Kufanya vikosa vidogo vidogo kuwa nongwa tena kwa mtu ambaye si mzungumzaji asili wa lugha ni kuzidisha na kukuza mambo ambayo si muhimu. Ni wapi Afrika (au hata Duniani) ambapo kila kiongozi wa taifa anazungumza kiingereza fasaha mara zote?
Sasa wale wasioongea Kiingereza kabisa akina Chavez na Hu tunawaweka ktk fungu gani?
Ikiwa bado tunaamini kiingereza kizuri ndio kipimo cha uwezo basi tuna safari ndefu mbeleni... ( By the way Im sorry for my broken swahili)