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Hatma ya Mbatia kisiasa

Discussion in 'Uchaguzi Tanzania' started by mpenda, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. mpenda

    mpenda JF-Expert Member

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    Jamani vipi kuhusu huyu Mbatia, matokeo haya yana implication gani kwake kisiasa?? :thinking::thinking::thinking:
     
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    Apumzike kwa amani
     
  3. Albedo

    Albedo JF-Expert Member

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    Kwishnei
     
  4. Kachanchabuseta

    Kachanchabuseta JF-Expert Member

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    ndo anaamia ccm
     
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    Kagalala JF-Expert Member

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    Mimi nadhani Mbatia uvuto wake kisiasa umeshapungua sana. Anachotakiwa kufanya ni kuungana na chama kingine cha upinzani chenye nguvu kama CHADEMA au CUF ajaribu tena
     
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    alibugi step kugombea DAR na hasa Kawe. Bora angeenda kwa mzee wa kilalacha. Apumzike tu
     
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    Hivi alipata kura ngapi kule Kawe??

    AIBU kubwa kwa kiongozi anayejiita ati ni wa ''kitaifa''. Unajua ni design ya viongozi kama akina Mbatia wanaotia doa na kudhalilisha upinzani. Well, sasa arudi kundini kwake kwa amani - CCM
     
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    Hivi aliwahi kuwa nao?
     
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    Malunde JF-Expert Member

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    Aendelee kusoma alama za nyakati, nani ajuaye yawezekana siku moja akaibuka.Ushauri wa kutafuta chama chenye nguvu waweza kumsaidia
     
  10. mpenda

    mpenda JF-Expert Member

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    jamani vipi hali ya mbatia kisiasa?? mi naona angedrop siasa sasa.. abaki na ngo:thinking::thinking::thinking:
     
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    Akae na Gwijima labda atasaidika
     
  12. admissionletter

    admissionletter Senior Member

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    Siasa zetu kwa sasa ni kama 'left' na 'right'. Sasa yeye kwa sasa anaonekana kama yuko 'katikati' kwa hiyo upinzani wanamuona ni kibaraka wa CCM na CCM wanamuona ni sehemu wa upinzani (hata kama anajipendekeza kwao CCM). Kwa hali kama hii utatuzi wake anaujua mwenyewe mbatia
     
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    Anahitaji kukomaa. He is immature.
     
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    [QUOTE=Kagalala;1206733]Mimi nadhani Mbatia uvuto wake kisiasa umeshapungua sana. Anachotakiwa kufanya ni kuungana na chama kingine cha upinzani chenye nguvu kama CHADEMA au CUF ajaribu tena[/QUOTE]

    Ni kweli kabisa. Kuna haja sasa ya hivi vyama vya siasa kuunganisha nguvu. Kuna maeneo ambayo wangeweza kushinda vizuri sana lakini wameishia kugawana kura na hivo kuipa ushindi CCM. Mfano mzuri ni Tarime.

    Tatizo ni kwamba nani ahamie kwa mwingine lakini naona kinachowaumiza kichwa ni swala la ruzuku, uchu wa madaraka na ubinafsi uliojikita kwa vingozi wa vyama hasa hivi vyama vidogo pia. Kuna vyama kama TLP, Jahazi Asilia, PPT, UPDP, NRA na vinginevyo ambavo hata udiwani havijapata, ingekua busara sasa kwa vyama kama hivo kuunganisha nguvu na kuunda chama kimoja ambacho kitakua na nguvu lakini pia uzoefu wa kisiasa haswa ukizingatia kwamba tayari wameshashiriki uchaguzi mara kadhaa na wameona hali halisi. Sioni busara ya kuendelea kukaa kwenye chama ambacho kwa mara nne mfululizo katika uchaguzi mkuu wanashindwa hata kupata mbunge mmoja au hata asilimia 3% ya kura zote zinazopigwa na wananchi.

    Ni busara sasa kwa viongozi wa vyama kuondoa aibu na ubinafsi sasa na kuona wataweza vipi kuunganisha utaalam, uzoefu, rasilimali ili kuleta mapinduzi ya kweli dhidi ya CCM.
     
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    Hata kama akienda ccm ni sawa ni kuchukua kapi kuweka kwenye mchuzi, afanye biashara au akasome kumalizia bachelor yake aliyokatishwa chuo kikuu mwaka 1992
     
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    admissionletter Senior Member

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    Ndio mageuzi yalipoanza alikua mjenga hoja mzuri sana na confidence. Alianza toka mwanafunzi chuo. Hapa mwishoni ndio kapoteza mwelekeo
     
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    R.I.P...J.Mbatia.
     
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    Ni kweli kabisa. Kuna haja sasa ya hivi vyama vya siasa kuunganisha nguvu. Kuna maeneo ambayo wangeweza kushinda vizuri sana lakini wameishia kugawana kura na hivo kuipa ushindi CCM. Mfano mzuri ni Tarime.

    Tatizo ni kwamba nani ahamie kwa mwingine lakini naona kinachowaumiza kichwa ni swala la ruzuku, uchu wa madaraka na ubinafsi uliojikita kwa vingozi wa vyama hasa hivi vyama vidogo pia. Kuna vyama kama TLP, Jahazi Asilia, PPT, UPDP, NRA na vinginevyo ambavo hata udiwani havijapata, ingekua busara sasa kwa vyama kama hivo kuunganisha nguvu na kuunda chama kimoja ambacho kitakua na nguvu lakini pia uzoefu wa kisiasa haswa ukizingatia kwamba tayari wameshashiriki uchaguzi mara kadhaa na wameona hali halisi. Sioni busara ya kuendelea kukaa kwenye chama ambacho kwa mara nne mfululizo katika uchaguzi mkuu wanashindwa hata kupata mbunge mmoja au hata asilimia 3% ya kura zote zinazopigwa na wananchi.

    Ni busara sasa kwa viongozi wa vyama kuondoa aibu na ubinafsi sasa na kuona wataweza vipi kuunganisha utaalam, uzoefu, rasilimali ili kuleta mapinduzi ya kweli dhidi ya CCM.
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    Ya, ni kweli hivi vyama vidogo vidogo ambavyo vimekuwa around toka uchaguzi uliopita na havijafanya chochote cha maana ni heri wangejiunga na wengine. Tukirudi kwenye hoja ya Mbatia, naona tatizo lake ni hilo hilo kwamba akiwa kwenye chama anataka yeye ndio awe kinara ndio maana inakua vugumu kujiunga na wenzake. Tatizo hili Mrema na Cheyo wanalo vile vile
     
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    Arudi CHADEMA ili ajengwe na kuimarika kabla ya 2015!
     
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    Ya, ni kweli hivi vyama vidogo vidogo ambavyo vimekuwa around toka uchaguzi uliopita na havijafanya chochote cha maana ni heri wangejiunga na wengine. Tukirudi kwenye hoja ya Mbatia, naona tatizo lake ni hilo hilo kwamba akiwa kwenye chama anataka yeye ndio awe kinara ndio maana inakua vugumu kujiunga na wenzake. Tatizo hili Mrema na Cheyo wanalo vile vile[/QUOTE]

    Suala la Ruzuku inawaumiza vichwa vyama vyote vya Siasa. Halafu Cham,a cha cheyo kina wanachama? Au ni yeye peke yake?
     
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