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Bungeni: Waziri Membe aiponda taarifa ya Wenje aihusisha na JamiiForums

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Tumaini Makene, Aug 6, 2012.

  1. Tumaini Makene

    Tumaini Makene Verified User

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    Kasema ni wahuni wachache walioitengeneza!

    Taarifa yenyewe katika JF ni hii hapa: http://www.jamiiforums.com/jukwaa-la-siasa/216505-waingereza-wamnanga-rais-kikwete.html

    Sehemu ya hotuba ya Wenje, ambayo Membe anadai imetolewa JF. Asijochua Membe ni kwamba hawezi kupata details hizo kwenye mtandao wa Gazeti la The Guardian la Uingereza, kwa sababu mjadala huo ulifungwa. Ofcourse ukitembelea mtanda wao wana tabia ya kufunga comments za mjadala fulani.

    Lakini kinachodhihirika hapa ni kwamba kabla ya Kambi ya Upinzani Bungeni kutoa hotuba yake leo bungeni, Membe hakuwa informed kabisa na jinsi wazungu wale (si wawili tu kama alivyosema Membe) walivyomnanga Rais wa Jakaya Kikwete.

    Yaani katika discussions zote zilizoibuka wakati ule wazungu wakitoa maneno makali juu ya rais wetu, serikali hii haikuwa na habari, Membe hakuwa na habari, mpaka leo iliposomwa bungeni! Mbona ilijadiliwa kuanzia katika mtandao huo, kisha ikaja hapa JF, kisha kwenye forums zingine nyingi.

    Lakini pia Membe kaonesha mapungufu na uwezo mdogo katika kujibu hoja za wapinzani kulinda hadhi ya Rais Kikwete na Tanzania kwa ujumla nje ya nchi. Badala ya kujibu hoja, akakimbilia kutumia fallacies kibao...eti source ya Wenje ni JF, so what is wrong with the source katika hili kwa mfano?
     
  2. Ralphryder

    Ralphryder JF-Expert Member

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    Ni ya kuchongwa tu taarifa hiyo!
     
  3. Mungi

    Mungi JF Gold Member

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    Nilichokipenda ni kuwa membe naye ana browse Jf. Nadhani hata brazake anabrowse pia
     
  4. Kigogo

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    hahaa JF kila mtu ana tembelea
     
  5. cjilo

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    ni taarifa gani hiyo jamani?
     
  6. Sangarara

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    Iweke hapa Binafsi sijaiona.
     
  7. Mungi

    Mungi JF Gold Member

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  8. Edson

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    ni member huyo tangu march mwaka huu
     
  9. zumbemkuu

    zumbemkuu JF Bronze Member

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    Hiyo taarifa hata mimi nilijua tu kuwa ni ya kupikwa.
     
  11. SMU

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    Hiyo link ina uhusiano gani na Wenje?
     
  12. Sizinga

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    Acha tu aiponde lakini ukweli umeshapatikana na unajulikana kwa kila mtanzania aayefuatilia siasa za nchi hii...

    Maelezo yake(Wenje) kwamba ubarozi wa china unavuja kipindi cha masika na pia wanadiplomasia wetu huko china wanavunja sharia kwa kutembelea na gari zilitumika zaidi ya miaka 10 wakati sheria za China haziruhusu, hii utasema ni uropokaji?

    Utawezaje kuhakikisha sharia za nchi hazivunjwi na raia wa china wakati sie tukiwa kwao tunazivunja sana...na ndio maana project za hapa bongo mpaka wanaohesabu vifusi kwenye barabara ni wachina...

    LOL Shame Membe!!
     
  13. Invisible

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    Mkuu,

    Si kama inahusiana na Wenje, bali Wenje alisoma maoni ya Waingereza dhidi ya Rais wetu; lakini kauli ya Membe kama ya Radhia Sweety, hawajaangalia SOURCE LINK na kufikiria.

    Membe kakiri kuwa Guardian walifanya coverage ya JK vema akiwa Davos, jambo jema! Lakini kusema uki-google habari yenyewe unaishia JamiiForums ni kutoelewa search engines zinafanyaje kazi.

    Maoni hayo yapo tovuti ya Guardian mpaka dakika hii na unaweza kuyaona kwenye link hii: Davos 2012: Day two, as it happened | Business | guardian.co.uk
     
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  14. Mimibaba

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    Siku hizi Wenje ni muingereza. Halafu JF GreatThinker tunafikirishwa na Mawaziri dhaifu wanaovalia njuga JF kujiokoa. Give me a Break with hawa mawaziri wa ukoo wa Dhaifu JK
     
  15. Edson

    Edson JF-Expert Member

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    hayo yalikuwa ni maoni ya waingereza kwenye gazeti la the guardian. ..humu ndani(jf) hayo maini yaliletwa na mdau aliyeyasoma huko the guardian...membe anasema hayo ni maneno ya jf na yameanzia jf?!!! kweli!!???
     
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    Umeondoa kitufe cha Like. Maelezo yako mazuri ila sijui kama hawa makanjanja wanaelewa kitu lililopo ni kujihami hata ukimtaja jina lake, kwanza atalikana baadae kimya maana kesha jigundua amechamsha.
     
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    zumbemkuu JF Bronze Member

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    aisee! ni upepo tu utapita.
    serikali chakachuzi siku zote huchakachua taarifa hata zile ambazo hazichakachuliki, binafsi sijamuelewa membe, sijui alikusudia nini kusema nini eti taarifa yenyewe inapatikana JF.
     
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    Hapa ndo nami nimeshindwa kuelewa kama Membe alisoma hoja yenyewe na alielewa sababu ya watanzania kuhoji rais wetu kunangwa.

    Kauli hii ilinishangaza, nikahisi labda kaambiwa tu, hajasoma! Kama alisoma basi alipitia bila kutafakari kwanini mantiki ya hoja hii, au aliisoma akiwa na majibu yake kichwani!
     
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    username yake ni ipi mkuu..
     
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