Yaliyojiri kwenye kikao cha rais Uhuru na Raila kule ikulu

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Taarifa zinasema kwamba Uhuru alimualika Raila na kumuuliza kinaga ubaga nini hasa alichokua anakitaka na yapi matatizo ya IEBC. Raila akampa orodha ya matakwa yake, ambayo Uhuru akaghairi baada ya kuona baadhi ya hayo mambo yanahitaji mabadiliko makubwa kikatiba na lazima wahusishwe wadau wengine.

Hii hapa orodha ya baadhi ya matakwa kwa mujibu wa taarifa niliyoambatanisha kwenye huu uzi
- Kuondolewa kwa makamishna wote tisa wa tume ya uchaguzi, IEBC
- Kubuniwa kwa cheo cha Waziri mkuu
- Kufutwa kwa mahakama kuu (Supreme court)
- Uwezo wa vyama kuwafuta magavana wasioendana na sera za vyama vyao


President Uhuru Kenyatta feels opposition leader Raila Odinga is trying to bully and intimidate him into accepting major constitutional changes, multiple sources within the presidency say.

Raila has said several times that the President last Tuesday initially agreed to talks on the IEBC but abruptly changed his mind.

When Uhuru invited Raila and his Cord co-principal Moses Wetang’ula to State House last Tuesday, the President wanted to hear exactly what the opposition wanted concerning removal and reform of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission.

“He was surprised when Cord introduced a long list of constitutional changes. The President felt Jubilee and Cord are not the only custodians of the constitution. He, therefore, decided to call off the meeting,” a source familiar with the meeting said.

The opposition has been holding weekly demonstrations against the electoral commission, which it says is biased in favour of Jubilee. It demands the commission be dissolved and reconstituted.

Monday's demonstration was the fifth and it turned bloody in Kisumu, where one man was shot dead, bringing the death toll in Kisumu to four since the last demo. At least six suffered gunshot wounds.

Yesterday the Star learnt opposition chiefs had told Uhuru they want the country to decide whether the Supreme Court was necessary because, they argued, it has failed to deliver justice and inspire confidence.

Established by the constitution, the highest court determines election petitions in cases of disputed presidential results. The opposition has been unhappy with the court since it rejected Raila’s presidential challenge. The court led by Willy Mutunga ruled Uhuru was the victor by a narrow margin.

Cord also told the President it was necessary to review the constitutional guarantee of five-year terms for governors. Cord proposes that political parties be given powers to recall any governor who, once in office, supports another party.

The constitution says a governor can only be removed for gross violation of the constitution, commission of a crime under national or international law, abuse of office and physical or mental incapacity,

Some governors, such as Alfred Mutua of Machakos, have openly rebelled against the parties on whose tickets they were elected.

Cord leaders also told Uhuru that a parliamentary system, with an executive Prime Minister, is best for the country.

Raila yesterday led another round of anti-IEBC demonstrations in various cities. In Kisumu, one person was shot dead and at least six others suffered bullet wounds. Injuries occurred after police opened fire to disperse crowds.

Police did not break up demonstrations in Nairobi, though Cord supporters burnt tires in Kibera as Raila and Wetang'ula repeated that they had struck a deal with Uhuru over dialogue to end the IEBC deadlock.

Kisumu protesters had blocked roads with burning tyres and were heading to the electoral body offices when police intervened. They used tear gas followed by live bullets.

The police shot dead three people last month in a similar anti-IEBC demonstration in Kisumu.

Police have said they were acting in self-defence.

Yesterday Interior PS Karanja Kibicho said six supermarkets were looted and protesters tried unsuccessfully to burn Kondele Police Station.

"We are not dealing with people who mean well. If all they want electoral reforms, why are they destroying private property? The police were very restrained in their response and we asked them to allow demonstrators to picket. But look at what we ended up with," Kibicho said.

In Kisumu, six-year old Jeremy Otieno Adongo was wounded by a bullet in his back at the family house at Kasule, Manyatta Estate. He was rushed to Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Teaching and Referral Hospital where the bullet was removed. He is in stable condition.

A one-year-old child was critically injured after police tear-gassed their house in Migosi. Two other youths, Omondi Nyamor and Daniel Okello, are in critical condition after they were beaten by police, reporters said.

A student at Highway Secondary school, Joseph Njoroge, was shot in the leg in the city centre.

The man who was shot dead was not immediately identified. He was shot in Car Wash Estate.

Those with gunshot wounds are Dickson Afira (abdomen), Calvin Ochieng (chest), Steve Okumu (thigh) and Ranington Ochieng (thigh). Another person was shot at Kisumu Bus Park.

Another person who was critically injured was rushed to Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Teaching and Referral Hospital, with a bullet wound to the abdomen.

Six people were undergoing surgery at Kisumu County Hospital, where a doctor, who decline to be identified, confirmed they all had gunshot wounds.

Business came to a standstill and Kisumu became a ghost town. Tumaini and Naivas supermarkets were looted and destroyed. Street families broke into Naivas supermarket and carted away gas cylinders.

Windows of Tumaini Supermarket in Kondele were smashed.

Protesters lit bonfires and blocked major roads in the lakeside city as gunshots rang out. rent the air.

Meanwhile, some Cord MPs yesterday announced that if Jubilee ignores dialogue calls, escalated protests will be held twice a week, on Monday and Thursday.

Addressing a press conference at Cord's office at Capitol Hill in Nairobi, Machakos Senator Johnstone Muthama said the protests could also be stepped up to four times a week.

He said they could be increased to four times a week.

"If Jubilee will not dialogue with us as we have proposed, demonstrations will go on," Muthama said.

Siaya Senator James Orengo protests will only when talks begin.

He dismissed those calling on Cord to use Parliament

to initiate IEBC reforms. Cord wants all nine commissioners out.

"These demonstrations will not stop anytime soon, unless dialogue begins. In this new constitutional dispensation, power rests with the people Negotiations should start out of Parliament. Most reforms in history started out of Parliament," he said.


Why Uhuru cancelled dialogue with Raila
 
If CORD wanted more in private but were publicly using IEBC wich is a genuin concern to many kenyans on its integrity..... then if I was Uhuru..... and raila has just shown me his cards..... my next move would be to rally my party MPs to remove IEBC commisioners and tell raila to shush now that they have been removed constitutionally... then anything Rao demands after that will be used against him....

But since Uhuru ako na kiburi and Rao is Baba..... this thing is not ending anytime soon
 
If CORD wanted more in private but were publicly using IEBC wich is a genuin concern to many kenyans on its integrity..... then if I was Uhuru..... and raila has just shown me his cards..... my next move would be to rally my party MPs to remove IEBC commisioners and tell raila to shush now that they have been removed constitutionally... then anything Rao demands after that will be used against him....

But since Uhuru ako na kuburi and Rao is Baba..... this thing is not ending anytime soon

But are you aware about 166 MPs have begun the process of getting rid of IEBC commissioners.


About half of the National Assembly members have committed to help end the IEBC stalemate. Mukurweini MP Kabando wa Kabando, who is one of the conveners of the caucus that brings together MPs from across the political divide, confirmed that 166 out of the 349 MPs had signed up to the initiative that seeks to chart the way forward in unlocking the IEBC impasse. "I can confirm that by Friday last week, we had 166 MPs. We are confident that more will join as we make efforts to resolve the matter as patriotic Kenyans. We will constantly update the public on the progress," Mr Kabando said. The MPs met last week at a Nairobi hotel and came up with resolutions, among them collection of views on how to reform the IEBC. The initiative is co-convened by Ugenya MP David Ochieng who exuded confidence that the MPs will make progress.
Read more at: 166 MPs sign up on initiative to help end IEBC stalemate
 
MK254 you need a total of 2/3 of parliament to make IEBC out.... Istoshe after the lower house the matter is pushed to the Senate upper house and hoes through the same process and only when 2/3 of all senators agree ndio itafanywa..... Istoshe the president has to sign them off.... Which he can decide not to and use his veto powers to block the motion


Cord MPS are numbered 127 in parliament
Jubilee MPS are numbered 140
Amani MPS. Are about 56 cord needs

All cord MPS + AMANI + 1/2 of jubilee mps to support their motion to see iebc off am not sure they (166) will not do a thing to IEBC..... And mind you Kindiki and moses kuria and aden duale have a large following that elect them as parliamentary leaders kama majority leader of parliament - - so wakisema IEBC hapana hata UK can't do a thing and I think Ruto doesn't want IEBC out He and Raila are the same people who put them there....
 
MK254 you need a total of 2/3 of parliament to make IEBC out.... Istoshe after the lower house the matter is pushed to the Senate upper house and hoes through the same process and only when 2/3 of all senators agree ndio itafanywa..... Istoshe the president has to sign them off.... Which he can decide not to and use his veto powers to block the motion


Cord MPS are numbered 127 in parliament
Jubilee MPS are numbered 140
Amani MPS. Are about 56 cord needs

All cord MPS + AMANI + 1/2 of jubilee mps to support their motion to see iebc off am not sure they (166) will not do a thing to IEBC..... And mind you Kindiki and moses kuria and aden duale have a large following that elect them as parliamentary leaders kama majority leader of parliament - - so wakisema IEBC hapana hata UK can't do a thing and I think Ruto doesn't want IEBC out He and Raila are the same people who put them there....

Yeah! Sammuel999 This is messy, but I believe if we can have a combination of TNA + CORD + AMANI, the rest can follow through. However, those 166 are just a beginning, like Kabando said, more are willing to sign up.
 
But are you aware about 166 MPs have begun the process of getting rid of IEBC commissioners.


About half of the National Assembly members have committed to help end the IEBC stalemate. Mukurweini MP Kabando wa Kabando, who is one of the conveners of the caucus that brings together MPs from across the political divide, confirmed that 166 out of the 349 MPs had signed up to the initiative that seeks to chart the way forward in unlocking the IEBC impasse. "I can confirm that by Friday last week, we had 166 MPs. We are confident that more will join as we make efforts to resolve the matter as patriotic Kenyans. We will constantly update the public on the progress," Mr Kabando said. The MPs met last week at a Nairobi hotel and came up with resolutions, among them collection of views on how to reform the IEBC. The initiative is co-convened by Ugenya MP David Ochieng who exuded confidence that the MPs will make progress.
Read more at: 166 MPs sign up on initiative to help end IEBC stalemate
If only we knew how to avoid violence..... it would have been fun watching this stalemate........

Anyway, iebc commisioners integrity is genuinly in question, everyone is in agreement.. those parliamenterians made a decision based on current events, You never know, MPs from jubelee might decide to change there minds.... eg. I heard Rao on the news jana saying "the question is not if IEBC will be removed, the question is what will happen after IEBC will be removed", so am guessing when it gets close to becoming a reality that iebc is going home, since raila is the one who will be seeing as the one who caused it to happen and people felt the pressure, he will be on momentum, he will most likely demand more things like to determine who will be apointed next among other things..... the moment jubilee mps see that Rao whats to appoint his own guy, they could all just refuse to remove the current corrupt commision all together just to spite Rao. ...... I hope it doesnt go like that and it just goes well and smooth
 
If only we knew how to avoid violence..... it would have been fun watching this stalemate........

Anyway, iebc commisioners integrity is genuinly in question, everyone is in agreement.. those parliamenterians made a decision based on current events, You never know, MPs from jubelee might decide to change there minds.... eg. I heard Rao on the news jana saying "the question is not if IEBC will be removed, the question is what will happen after IEBC will be removed", so am guessing when it gets close to becoming a reality that iebc is going home, since raila is the one who will be seeing as the one who caused it to happen and people felt the pressure, he will be on momentum, he will most likely demand more things like to determine who will be apointed next among other things..... the moment jubilee mps see that Rao whats to appoint his own guy, they could all just refuse to remove the current corrupt commision all together just to spite Rao. ...... I hope it doesnt go like that and it just goes well and smooth

That's the one million dollar question "What next after IEBC commissioners removal". Hassan will certainly go, but then we will start a crazy cycle of whom and how to appoint. This is one dark journey and very very bumpy. It's just sad there are some guys dying so so unnecessarily.
 
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Nimeshindwa kujizulia kucheka, hio place uhuru anasema hii teargas si ya China.... ni ya Afghanistan alafu ruto anadai hapana hii ni ya Lebanon, ilirushiwa Yesu akasema 'eloi eloi sabaktan'... hahahahahah
 
Taarifa zinasema kwamba Uhuru alimualika Raila na kumuuliza kinaga ubaga nini hasa alichokua anakitaka na yapi matatizo ya IEBC. Raila akampa orodha ya matakwa yake, ambayo Uhuru akaghairi baada ya kuona baadhi ya hayo mambo yanahitaji mabadiliko makubwa kikatiba na lazima wahusishwe wadau wengine.

Hii hapa orodha ya baadhi ya matakwa kwa mujibu wa taarifa niliyoambatanisha kwenye huu uzi
- Kuondolewa kwa makamishna wote tisa wa tume ya uchaguzi, IEBC
- Kubuniwa kwa cheo cha Waziri mkuu
- Kufutwa kwa mahakama kuu (Supreme court)
- Uwezo wa vyama kuwafuta magavana wasioendana na sera za vyama vyao


President Uhuru Kenyatta feels opposition leader Raila Odinga is trying to bully and intimidate him into accepting major constitutional changes, multiple sources within the presidency say.

Raila has said several times that the President last Tuesday initially agreed to talks on the IEBC but abruptly changed his mind.

When Uhuru invited Raila and his Cord co-principal Moses Wetang’ula to State House last Tuesday, the President wanted to hear exactly what the opposition wanted concerning removal and reform of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission.

“He was surprised when Cord introduced a long list of constitutional changes. The President felt Jubilee and Cord are not the only custodians of the constitution. He, therefore, decided to call off the meeting,” a source familiar with the meeting said.

The opposition has been holding weekly demonstrations against the electoral commission, which it says is biased in favour of Jubilee. It demands the commission be dissolved and reconstituted.

Monday's demonstration was the fifth and it turned bloody in Kisumu, where one man was shot dead, bringing the death toll in Kisumu to four since the last demo. At least six suffered gunshot wounds.

Yesterday the Star learnt opposition chiefs had told Uhuru they want the country to decide whether the Supreme Court was necessary because, they argued, it has failed to deliver justice and inspire confidence.

Established by the constitution, the highest court determines election petitions in cases of disputed presidential results. The opposition has been unhappy with the court since it rejected Raila’s presidential challenge. The court led by Willy Mutunga ruled Uhuru was the victor by a narrow margin.

Cord also told the President it was necessary to review the constitutional guarantee of five-year terms for governors. Cord proposes that political parties be given powers to recall any governor who, once in office, supports another party.

The constitution says a governor can only be removed for gross violation of the constitution, commission of a crime under national or international law, abuse of office and physical or mental incapacity,

Some governors, such as Alfred Mutua of Machakos, have openly rebelled against the parties on whose tickets they were elected.

Cord leaders also told Uhuru that a parliamentary system, with an executive Prime Minister, is best for the country.

Raila yesterday led another round of anti-IEBC demonstrations in various cities. In Kisumu, one person was shot dead and at least six others suffered bullet wounds. Injuries occurred after police opened fire to disperse crowds.

Police did not break up demonstrations in Nairobi, though Cord supporters burnt tires in Kibera as Raila and Wetang'ula repeated that they had struck a deal with Uhuru over dialogue to end the IEBC deadlock.

Kisumu protesters had blocked roads with burning tyres and were heading to the electoral body offices when police intervened. They used tear gas followed by live bullets.

The police shot dead three people last month in a similar anti-IEBC demonstration in Kisumu.

Police have said they were acting in self-defence.

Yesterday Interior PS Karanja Kibicho said six supermarkets were looted and protesters tried unsuccessfully to burn Kondele Police Station.

"We are not dealing with people who mean well. If all they want electoral reforms, why are they destroying private property? The police were very restrained in their response and we asked them to allow demonstrators to picket. But look at what we ended up with," Kibicho said.

In Kisumu, six-year old Jeremy Otieno Adongo was wounded by a bullet in his back at the family house at Kasule, Manyatta Estate. He was rushed to Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Teaching and Referral Hospital where the bullet was removed. He is in stable condition.

A one-year-old child was critically injured after police tear-gassed their house in Migosi. Two other youths, Omondi Nyamor and Daniel Okello, are in critical condition after they were beaten by police, reporters said.

A student at Highway Secondary school, Joseph Njoroge, was shot in the leg in the city centre.

The man who was shot dead was not immediately identified. He was shot in Car Wash Estate.

Those with gunshot wounds are Dickson Afira (abdomen), Calvin Ochieng (chest), Steve Okumu (thigh) and Ranington Ochieng (thigh). Another person was shot at Kisumu Bus Park.

Another person who was critically injured was rushed to Jaramogi Oginga Odinga Teaching and Referral Hospital, with a bullet wound to the abdomen.

Six people were undergoing surgery at Kisumu County Hospital, where a doctor, who decline to be identified, confirmed they all had gunshot wounds.

Business came to a standstill and Kisumu became a ghost town. Tumaini and Naivas supermarkets were looted and destroyed. Street families broke into Naivas supermarket and carted away gas cylinders.

Windows of Tumaini Supermarket in Kondele were smashed.

Protesters lit bonfires and blocked major roads in the lakeside city as gunshots rang out. rent the air.

Meanwhile, some Cord MPs yesterday announced that if Jubilee ignores dialogue calls, escalated protests will be held twice a week, on Monday and Thursday.

Addressing a press conference at Cord's office at Capitol Hill in Nairobi, Machakos Senator Johnstone Muthama said the protests could also be stepped up to four times a week.

He said they could be increased to four times a week.

"If Jubilee will not dialogue with us as we have proposed, demonstrations will go on," Muthama said.

Siaya Senator James Orengo protests will only when talks begin.

He dismissed those calling on Cord to use Parliament

to initiate IEBC reforms. Cord wants all nine commissioners out.

"These demonstrations will not stop anytime soon, unless dialogue begins. In this new constitutional dispensation, power rests with the people Negotiations should start out of Parliament. Most reforms in history started out of Parliament," he said.


Why Uhuru cancelled dialogue with Raila


Mimi nilijua tangu mwanzo kwamba hii ya Tume ya uchaguzi ni danganya toto lkn kuna mengi zaidi na nina uhakika hata hiyo ikiondolewa kesho watakuja na madai mengine tena, kwa kifupi Raila Odinga anataka kuingia kwenye serikali kwa njia yoyote ile hivyo Kenya wajiandae tu huwo uchaguzi hautakuwa rahisi kwa maana Raila akishindwa hawezi kukubali na hapo ndipo shida ilipo...
 
MK254 told you duale Kindiki and moturi the speaker will never allow the motion hope you are watching news ya saa moja!!
 
Mimi nilijua tangu mwanzo kwamba hii ya Tume ya uchaguzi ni danganya toto lkn kuna mengi zaidi na nina uhakika hata hiyo ikiondolewa kesho watakuja na madai mengine tena, kwa kifupi Raila Odinga anataka kuingia kwenye serikali kwa njia yoyote ile hivyo Kenya wajiandae tu huwo uchaguzi hautakuwa rahisi kwa maana Raila akishindwa hawezi kukubali na hapo ndipo shida ilipo...


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