Mind u the Kenyan govt has about half ownership of KQ so its obvious if Uhuru intervenes..He has on protecting We the public that has 25% plus Rostam's 17%. Just like Uhuru intervened with KQ's debt saga n swapped with a stake for ur local banks to avoid receivership or just like Uhuruto instigated NMG to fire Gado, the same can happen here! Uthamaki thing! BTW I really loved the Magufuli's dadeline to Vodacom to migrate to our national data center. Huu ujinga wa Mpesa Tanzania kutumia server za Kenya haukai sawa kabisa!
This is the stupidity at highest order never eve seen ,since I joined JF
Na ikifa? Mana tunachoogopa hapa ni kilichotokea tanalec, kibogold na vingine...
Mpuuzi w2ewe
sasa Voda ikififa na ikanunuliw ana safaricom at cheap price at the same kuna wabongo wna hela zao na srekalki kodi itapata wapi?
hivi unafikir ni ngapi tumepoteza kwa kufa general tire? serengeti je ?
wewe tafuta cha kufanya nimeomba success story ya any Tanzanian company under a Kenyan! Hujanijibu! Mie sio level yako!Mind u the Kenyan govt has about half ownership of KQ so its obvious if Uhuru intervenes..
Hahha sasa kama anaprotect amkatae CEO on what grounds kwa mfano.?
Unataka kusema mashirika yote yalokufa nchini chanzo ni wakenya?..issues run deeper than kenyans...tujitathmini
Kama ni mfutialiaji wa mambo unaweza kuwa na mifano mingi ya serikali kubwa duniani zilivyo block manunuzi au take over ya makampuni binafsi (strategic ones) haswa ujio au uingizi wa wageni ambao serikali inaona kwa namna flan itaathiri maslah mapana ya nchi. Sina uhakika kama Vodacom inaangukia ndani ya makampuni ya aina hii ila nilitaka kukufahimisha yu kuwa serikali yaweza mda wowote kupiga kura ya veto kwa makampuni binafsi yalipo ndani ya nchi husika (angalia mfano wa google na uchina.. Angalia mfano wa Rais trump kupiga marufuku kampuni ya Uchina kununua kampuni kubwa ya utengenezaji semi conductors iitwayo LATTICE.. Mifano iko mingi tu)
42% ipo chini ya Watanzania still!Mbaya zaidi hujafanya utafiti. Safaricom na Vodacom wote wanamilikiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na baba mmoja ambaye ni Vodacom Group SA. Hivyo usemacho hakiwezekani labda wawili hao kumerge operations.
Mifano unayotolea ya General Tyres na Tanelec ni tofauti sana na case ya Vodacom. Hayo mawili yalikuwa mashirika ya umma na serikali ikayabinafsisha kwa mapenzi yake.
Kaka kuna economic intelligence.. Kwann USA wabail out private financial institutions.. Kwann Qatar wafanye same thing?!
Once kampuni inapokuwa kubwa sana.. Hata kama ni yako inaanza kubeba public interest.. Inalipa kodi kubwa, inaajiri watu wengi nk. Yote haya ni muhimu na yanabidi yalindwe na taifa.
Mchezo wanaoufanya wakenya ni mchezo common.. Kama anavyozungumza Geza Ulole.. Wanaletwa katika makumpuni ya kitanzania kwa lengo moja kama sio mawili..
Mosi kuua ushindani wa kibiashara ..kwa mfano Safaricom vs Vodacom.. Na pili kuhamishia ajira Kenya. Unapoua makampuni yetu kwa kuweka uongozi mbaya au ule unaodhamiria kuua..unasababisha watanzania kukosa ajira ..kisha unapunguza uzalishaji hivyo kuongeza imports of (service/goods).. Either way ni hasara kwa Tanzania na faida kwa Kenya..
Kama rais anapaswa kuingilia kama anahisi public interest zinakuwa matatani.
Hujanielewa pia Safaricom inataka kununua Vodacom. A thing I don't support! I don't want a repeat of EA Brew story at Vodacom. With oil and gas economy coming up, we should not allow our treasured companies be led by strangers!Tunachanganya mambo. Sekta ya mawasiliano ina mazingira tofauti na kile alichopresent Gezaulole. Pili safaricom na Vodacom wanamilikiwa na mtu mmoja wakioperate kwenye two distinct markets hivyo operations zao haziingiliani kwa kiasi kikubwa.
Tatu waliotolewa mfano walikuwa ni dominants kwenye soko Afrika Mashariki hivyo kuwadistabilize kulileta faida kwa washindani.
Vodacom TZ na Safaricom si washindani hivyo kuwadestabilise Vodacom kutawapa hasara zaidi wamiliki wake (unfortunately ndio wamiliki pia wa Safaricom kwa kiasi). Mchezo wowote wa kumdondosha Vodacom TZ kutafaidisha makampuni ya Kitanzania hasa Tigo (Millicom Tz owned by Waholanzi v. Manji) na serikali ya Tanzania kupitia TTCL na Airtel (kumbuka hawa ni washindani ambao mistake yoyote itawaongezea market share).
42% ipo chini ya Watanzania still!
Look even if 5% the bottom line is we should fend off acquisition by Safaricom n to do so we should not let a Kenyan run Vodacom.Watanzania wapi? Hisa za Watanzania Vodacom ni less than 25%. Au unahesabia na Milambo (part of Calvary Holdings is Jersey registered company not Tanzanian) ambao kwa sasa ni Kenya based?
40% ya hisa zilizokuwa floated DSE zilinunuliwa na The South Africa’s Public Investment Corporation (PIC). Ukipiga hesabu hisa za Watanzania ni less than 25% of all shares issued by Vodacom.
Geza Ulole hili la kwamba Safaricom anataka kuinunua Vodacom TZ ni hearsay kutoka kwako. Hata hivyo kama nilivyosema wote ni partly owned by Vodacom Group SA. Iweje Safaricom imnunue Vodacom TZ? Who is selling his stake? Kama Milambo Holdings ndio wanauza their last share sawa however hata wakiuza hazitanunuliwa na Safaricom bali Vodacom Group SA ambae ni baba wa Safaricom na Vodacom TZLook even if 5% the bottom line is we should fend off acquisition by Safaricom n to do so we should not let a Kenyan run Vodacom.
When Tanzanians learn that a degree is just there to show you have reasonable intelligence then we will learn that learning begins AFTER university. Vodacom is not looking for degrees, they are looking for competence
The CEO of Safaricom (an extremely succesful Telecom x10 Vodacom Tanzania, has no degree) . Degree ndio italeta profits?
Robert Collymore - Wikipedia
Mbaya zaidi hujafanya utafiti. Safaricom na Vodacom wote wanamilikiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na baba mmoja ambaye ni Vodacom Group SA. Hivyo usemacho hakiwezekani labda wawili hao kumerge operations.
Mifano unayotolea ya General Tyres na Tanelec ni tofauti sana na case ya Vodacom. Hayo mawili yalikuwa mashirika ya umma na serikali ikayabinafsisha kwa mapenzi yake.
Kwani hili sio jukwaa la kufikisha maoni yake? Huu mtindo wanaotaka kufanya hawa waKenya ni kama ule wa kuiua General Tyres Tz ili YANA tyres iweze ku-take overSasa si umwambie Magufuli? Unatuambia sisi ndio tufanye?
Don't you know kwamba manji ana own 17%+25% za DSEWatanzania wapi? Hisa za Watanzania Vodacom ni less than 25%. Au unahesabia na Milambo (part of Calvary Holdings is Jersey registered company not Tanzanian) ambao kwa sasa ni Kenya based?
40% ya hisa zilizokuwa floated DSE zilinunuliwa na The South Africa’s Public Investment Corporation (PIC). Ukipiga hesabu hisa za Watanzania ni less than 25% of all shares issued by Vodacom.
Utawainuaje wanaolazimika kupigania mkate wao kwa kogopa nissan nyeupe? Acha tufe tu. Tukipona awamu nyingine labda Mungu atainua wazalendo wa ukweli. Ngoja tuendelee kukamilisha kuziba midomo na akili zetu ili tuishi.Kukiwa na watanzania kama hawa 500 tu wenye uzalendo na wanaoweza kuona mambo kwa jicho la tatu hakika nch yetu itasogea mbele
Do you hear them? How can you expect positive results from your rival in the supposedly competing business arena?Stop crying wolf and first develop your local capacity to take over such corporate entities! As long as you don't have local expertise,more foreigners will head them!
Binafsi sidhan kama kwel tumeshindwa kumpata Mtanzania atakaye weza kuiongoza taasis hiyo kubwa ya Vodacom Plc. Hao wezi wakikenya hawana nafasi kwa sasa katika taifa letu na ukizingatia ndo mahasim wetu kiuchum.Kwani hili sio jukwaa la kufikisha maoni yake? Huu mtindo wanaotaka kufanya hawa waKenya ni kama ule wa kuiua General Tyres Tz ili YANA tyres iweze ku-take over
Maneno mazito sana.Why should Sylvia Mulinge be rejected as Vodacom's Managing Director
Towards our agenda 2025, nation interests for Tanzania should come ahead of anything as farequested as regional strategic decisions are concerned. Unfortunately, the British owned companies don't see how their careless moves can put our national interests at disadvantage. This is out of a reality that their skewed mentality has repetitively given leverage to Kenyan nationals at the expense of Tanzania's regional prospects with detrimental effects on our economic welfare as a result.
As an alert, Kenyans as people are to us our natural rivals aside being corrupt and money laundering machines just like Bashir Awale a former managing Director at Standard Bank (with a $6 mln bounty on his head). While protectionists at home; on given a task, they lack comittment, competence and expertise to perform at diligence. Appointing any of them to lead a big company like Vodacom poses serious risks to its prospects.
Just like Precisionair under Kioko, a sole electrical transformers plant in the region Tanelec was put under management of Kenyan nationals at its prime, before ended up minting loses. One should not forget how Kibo Breweries met impenitent greedy and protectionist takeover by East African Breweries under its CEO Gerald Mahinda at time.
As not only a bargaining token but a trump card that subsequently ensured an immediate closure agreement with Sabmiller for any potential threat in their perceived home market after ownership exchange of Brewery plants in Moshi and Thika in what was at the time Kenyans' a bragging right in what was infamously baptized a regional "Beer war", rendered Moshi town and her peripherial residence jobless with the disappearance of most catchy beer brand "Kibo gold" from the market.
The same is a repetitive sad story about the second take over of Serengeti Breweries unfortunately, by the same East African Breweries. As a testimony, just recently the East African Breweries was put under scrutiny of Fair Competition Commission after the terms of take over were violated. Again, as a result of poor decisions taken in Nairobi that deliberately ignored conditions and agreements put forward by Fair Tanzania's Competition Commission.
After a takeover, the behind the scene ill motives were pioneered that resulted into all efforts being channelled towards improving the image Tusker brand within the Tanzanian market at the expense of a loss of market share of a more prominent Serengeti beer. Serengeti beer was intentionally rejected the same treatment within Kenya as the takeover agreement requested aside a termination of several local sports sponsorships that led to her market share plunge at home.
Prior that, it has to be remembered via relentless promotions Serengeti beer had managed to carve a niche of its own in the beer market and commanded a respect and an outmatched vibrant receptiveness to beer consumers. Even under fierce competition from Sabmiller it's market share had fairly risen and by the time of a takeover, Serengeti Breweries had already established an overall market share of 15% within Tanzania.
Unfortunately under the prohibitive control and poor management of the East African Breweries in Nairobi that market share shrank to less than 7% at the moment. To me that did not happen as a coincidence, considering the fact the poor performance was for the second time and especially after seeing the same East African Breweries is investing a $150 mln plant in Kisumu a nose and mouth from Mwanza where Serengeti Breweries is having another plant.
To me, a demise of Serengeti Breweries was meant to give an excuse for a new plant in Kisumu and trying to use instigated poor performance to shut down a plant in Mwanza, a misallocation of resources.
As never ending recurrence of similar sabotageous coincidences, the same story can be explained of Tanelec acquisition by Transcentury under CEO Kiuna Gachao. Again, a Kenyan company, Transcentury led to Tanelec's underperformance as a result of a brand new subsidiary being opened in Kenya rendering its market share being constricted and hence redundance at home while job creation in Nairobi.
The same was the unfair tactics for the most talked about Arusha dairy acquisition by Brookside that left bitter taste among diplomatic circles in the region as Uhuru happened to be that ultimate torch bearer for this company.
I have a strong feeling madam Mulinge is sent on a mission and suspiciously, is being assigned to oversee a takeover of Vodacom by Safaricom, a move that will be executed via managerial limitations towards overall company's performance that in the end will erase its competitiveness in the Tanzanian market. With a board stage-managed from Nairobi to play a second fiddle in making approvals and decisions on their favor, unhealthy managerial tactics will be instigated to discourage the much needed innovation for a company to stay relevant in the market and hence growth derailment while posing Vodacom for a smooth take over at a throw away price.
Your Excellency President JPM, with my esteem humble advice i ask your office to reject this appointment. I also beg your office to stop letting Tanzanian companies being put under any sort of influence or control by Kenyans. Kenyans as people lack merit are incompetent while corrupt and have proven failure even on the running of their own companies at home.
Think of loss making KQ under Naikuni and Nguze, Uchumi under Kipng'etich and Nakumatt under Shah e.t.c. the list of their cultural proof of embezzlement, fraud and mismanagement when given a control of any good company is undebatable and can go on and on.
It's high time to do away with giving them a chance to ruin good gains by our companies especially those public owned as their failure will be disastrous to our economy. Just like the way a renowned Tanzanian political satirist James Gado was unceremoniously shown an exit door through a political influence though he working in a public company NMG, a similar fashion treatment can save Vodacom. Enough with their shenanigans , let us put a stop to being made their experimental Guinea pigs on their project "rundown to takeover". We should always stay vigilant and remind ourselves it's purely an attempt to economical dominance at play.