My guess is that,such kind of world would be so bored
than today world
How could one enjoy the success if suffering did not exist?
Natural disasters such as tsunami or earth quakes are not evil at all Ngabu
The planet that is 100% stable,is geologically uninhabitable planet
We are living on this unstable planet as consequence of our forefather's sins
To be honest,I do not know why God allows existence of natural evils or disastersNyani Ngabu said:Mish, really? Hahaha....wow!
Yes, they very much are.
They engender so much anguish.
And by definition, evil is something that is very bad and harmful. Something that causes harm and injury. Something that is unpleasant.
You want to tell me natural disasters are good and harmless? That they don't cause harm and injury to people? And that they are pleasant things?
Seriously?
Go and re check your "rationality " find a mirror to reflect and come againGod is an idea,because he/it can be a cow,a mountain, the sun,energy, mind,it just depends on your level of comprehension.
Labda nikusaidie wewe mdhaifu wa fikra nikubaline nawe kuwa hakuna mungu ili pasiwe na huyo "designer" unayemchukia, sasa nileleze wewe ambaye umekuwa designed na "space and time " nani ali design designer wako " space and time " ?If a designer is necessary for complexity, wouldn't that designer be more complex than the designed?
And if that designer is even more complex than the designed, and a designer is necessary for complexity as mentioned above, wouldn't that designer need a designer? And that designer's designer need a designer ad absurdum ad infinitum ?
The entire concept is boggled down by an infinity of absurdities.
Idol are the created gods that you and your brothers are proclaiming...Who is your Idol? Jesus Christ or Prophet Mohammed?
How can one know evils or good out of God realm ?Mish, really? Hahaha....wow!
Yes, they very much are.
They engender so much anguish.
And by definition, evil is something that is very bad and harmful. Something that causes harm and injury. Something that is unpleasant.
You want to tell me natural disasters are good and harmless? That they don't cause harm and injury to people? And that they are pleasant things?
Seriously?
The guy is a firming the same God.Nice article Bro!
I'm theist by the way,but I want to know more about your belief system.
Firstly,you've said that there is no One-God.
I,myself I find it hard to imagine the universe without intelligent maker
Just look for moment,beautiful order of our cosmos,how your brain function,and complexity of life
All those are merely an accident?
Science can explain origin of natural law that govern our universe?
secondly,you ignored the role of bible and the christianity,but yet you've accepted the Existence of jesus,why?
M only worshiping to the One and only...the true creator of everything..the most beneficent the most mercifulWho is your Idol? Jesus Christ or Prophet Mohammed?
Hao wanaabidu hadi nyani, nyoka. Ngombe...Idol are the created gods that you and your brothers are proclaiming...
I am a free thinker.Are you Atheist?
Do you know that,strong atheism does not actually exist?
They are simply human imaginations of fear.What is God, what is Satan?
what is the purpose of God if you were to tell us please?Nope,I'm quite deep into mysticism
You know what Ngabu,nature displays the beautiful symmetrical patterns and order
To me,complexity of nature alone serve as evidence for existence of intelligent designer.Life is too complex to have happen by chance
Existence of the universe which obey mathematical laws is still most profound mystery
It's quite hard,to imagine the life without God,Ngabu!
Nani kasma mimi nimekuwa designer?Labda nikusaidie wewe mdhaifu wa fikra nikubaline nawe kuwa hakuna mungu ili pasiwe na huyo "designer" unayemchukia, sasa nileleze wewe ambaye umekuwa designed na "space and time " nani ali design designer wako " space and time " ?
If god cannot be designed by definition, then complexity does not need a designer.The highlighted question is illogical
Is illogical from the fact that,God cannot be designed by definition
If God is uncaused cause of everything,how then can he be caused?
It's like asking that,"To whom bachelor is married?
That's absurd
The entire concept is boggled down by an infinity of absurdities
You have tried to show the flaw in my argument
But you have not answered where complexity came from.
Kiranga said:Your argument that the universe has a deaigner because it is vomolex then becomes illogical under this scenario
Rational persons are appealing to intelligent designer[ID] not because they know nothing about origin of complexityNot being able to show where complexity comes from does not show it was created by god
Nani kasma mimi nimekuwa designer?
Na nikikwambia sijui jibu lakini jibu haliwezi kuwa mungu wako kama vile mtu anavyoweza kukwambia kwamba hajui square root mbiki lakini haiwezi kiwa kumi utasemaje?
Na kwa nini complexity ni lazima iwe designed?
I just shot down the case for design, you obviously did not understand what you quoted.
Kwa nini swali lako linauliza "nani" ?Wewe umekuwa designed au hata kama XY na YY ndizo zilukufanya uwepo!
Bado nataka unieleze nani alifanya yule aliyefanya wewe uwepo na yeye nani alimfanya aliyemfanya awe....
Maana msomi wewe unataka hiyo regress to infinity
Nini maana ya complexity na design kwa ufahamu wako.isije kuwa watu wanafundisha jiwe kunena 'Ukiona Kobe juu ya mti ujue kawekwa" hiyo ndiyo inabeba maana ya kuwa kilichopo ni chenye mwanzo matokeo toka kingine .
Case for design hsiwezi kufa kirahisi hivyo wewe acha kukariri...vilivyo ni kwa kuwa vimefanywa kuwa vilivyo.
God serves as our[theists] moral standard and sustainer of the worldwhat is the purpose of God if you were to tell us please?
What we know from experience and principles,especially principle of causation is that,an events need a cause
The naturalistic theory about the existence of universe,known as Big bang,does not even explain the origin of the universe ?
It's simply,explaining the development of the singularity after plack time
It does not explain where materials contained in singularity came from
Rational persons are appealing to intelligent designer[ID] not because they know nothing about origin of complexity
They are appealing to ID explanation because it's plausible and more probable than materialists explanation
Universe is finite in time,but yet it existed
So where did it come from?
" Nani " kwa maana kisababishi. Kama unajificha kwenye maneno basi chagua chochote iwe nani, kitu gani, nini , namna gani nk nk nk cha msingi eleza kilichosababisha uwepo wako kupitia XY na YY kwa muendelezo ili tupate chanzo kama kipo au kisababishi usipotaka endelea hadi infinityKwa nini swali lako linauliza "nani" ?
Unajuaje kwamba "nani" ndiyo swali sahihi?