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Watu wa mungu siko zote hawana ushahidi wa kile wakisemacho ama wakiabuducho,ndo mana hawajaweza mpaka sasa kuthibitisha uwepo wa mungu.
Hapo ndipo mzizi wa fitina ulipo mkuu..tukidadavua hivi vitabu vilitoka wapi hasa...na je_hawa mitume na hasa Yesu na Mohamad ni kweli waliwahi kuishi ama ni story kama za Ng,wanamalundi na maajabu yake.....tutafikia hitimisho.
You cannot answer it, unless you believe in God, and not just any god, but God as said in the Bible!how can we get something from nothing?,
You will be the first person since creation to explain anything without God and get it, let me see!Watu wengi hasa wenzetu WANAOAMINI katika dini na MUNGU/MIUNGU huwa hawatuelewi kabisa kuhusu hili.
Nitajaribu leo kufafanua kwa kina(kadri nijuavyo mimi) kwa faida ya wengi,kuhusu,KUAPATA KITU PASIPO KITU.(sina uhakika kama ni tafsiri sahihi). Karibuni....
Evolution does not even attempt to explain origin of everything, so true, though its a lie by itself, you are right on what it attempts to do. To explain how simple life "evolved" into complex life forms. The problem is life is complex by itself so there is no such a thing as simple life. Experiments have failed to produce single life, because life is complex. The word is oxymoron!Katika nyanja ya Evolution,ina maanisha ni jinsi gani unaweza kupata Immense complexity and diversity and beuty and elegance of life,na zaidi ya hapo,inaonesha ni jinsi gani unaweza kupata Powerful Illusion of design ambayo uhai unaonesha,ambayo ninaweza sema sio kutoka katika HAKUNA(nothing),(not quiet from nothing)ila kutoka katika Extreme Simplicity.
Kabla ya Darwin kufanya utafiti uliopelekea kila kitu kuwa wazi,ilikuwa ni vigumu sana kuamini/kueleza jinsi gani unapata/kuna Vitu kama Ubongo,macho,miguu,mabawa ya ndege,n.k.Ilikuwa n ngumu sana kujua vipi unaweza kupata vitu vilivyo vizur machoni na vyenye mpangilio maalumu vinavoonekana kama vimepangwa(designed).
Darwin alitoa confidence na kuonesha kuwa kinachoonekana ni ugumu wa ufahamu wa kupata kitu pasipo kitu,alisove na waliofuata pia walikuw wakiendeleza kazi yake tangu kipindi kile.
Nothing i not substance, its absence of everything. So if you have a single thing, then its not nothing. And so you can never have anything out of absence of everything....impossible. something have to be there for you to have something. Ex Nihilo nihil! I see you jumping into world of philosophy. I assure you, soon you will contradict yourself!@@@@But what is NOTHING,and how can we have something from Nothing...
See, I said it. How do you get everything out of absence of everything? Is this magic or what? Out of nothing comes nothing, period!Ni kwel kabisa,kwamba The Universal came from nothing due to what we know about the Universal up to this time,here is the proof of my above Arguments.
Hey, stop it! Nothing by definition is absence of all things. How can that be unstable? You are assuming that nothing is something which can be unstable. And since nothing is not something and you are assuming nothing is something... what are you saying? I warned you before!""Nothing is UNSTABLE,that empty space is UNSTABLE,
This is voodoo not science. Where did you get this from? By the way empty space is NOT nothing. So even if I grant your voodoo here, its not creating from nothing. Space is something by definition and not absence of all things!Laws of mechanics combined with GRAVITY will tell you that,if you have Empty space there and you wait for the long enough,particles will be CREATED
Another voodoo here. If you take a frog, and wait long enough it will turn into nice sweet princess. Mama Deborah Mwenda called them tales. So here you are telling a tale for grownups!,and if you wait more enough,empty space will allways produce a UNIVERSAL full og MATTERS, So NOTHING is unstable (sijui kama naeleweka hapa).
So you are saying empty space is nothing? Are you dumb in any other area, sir/madam? Space is not nothing, its something. You life in time-space-matter universe and you do not call time nothing, nor do you call matter nothing. So why space? Space is not nothing and space did not create anything. Are you attributing Creation of the universe to space?The case here is NOTHING (Empty space),creating something (Universal /Earth).
First you say empty space is nothing itself, few inches later it becomes product of nothing (there by implying it is not the nothing itself). Why should we take anything you say seriously if you contradict yourself in virtually all you try to explain here?But ist the empty space nnothing(wengi mtasema no ),Lakini ngoja nikuoneshe pia kwamba EMPTY SPACE nayo inaweza ikawa product ya nothing,na hapo nadhan hakuta kuwa na swali tena.
Hapa nakuja katika laws za kifizikia,ama NATURAL FUNDAMENTAL LAWZ,
Ambzo zinaelezea kiundani jinsi ambavo kanuni na misingi ya kuwepo hewa tupu,space na mazingira ya utokeaji wa kila kitu kinachohitajika kufanyika kwa kitu husika(sina haja ya kuchima sna ntapoteza maana ya uzi,waweza uliza katika mjadala na nitajibu.),@@@@
Half nothing ... thank you!Nothing niimanishayo katika upande wa Evolution sio,Completely nothing,lakini ni kutoka katika resonable complicated beginning ambayo ilikuwa ni first self replication molecule(maana completely nothing imesha tengenza UNIVERSAL na sasa ni evolution .).
"I don't know, but I will explain to you" is stupidy way of answering anything.Lakini tukumbuke kwamba Natural selection haiwezi kwenda kama hakuna genetics.,na hilo ndo tatizo ambalo halijasoviwa.Namaanisha hadi sasa hakuna anayejua Genetics zilivoanza.Lakini tunajua kwamba Kanuni za chemistry lazima zianzishe self replicating molecules,Kisha EVOLUTION inatake place.
You have no single idea about Genetics. Your writings says so!Na kuanzia hapo sasa,aina zote za diversity na viumbe kama mimi na wewe ndo tukawa into existence,lakini haya yote lazima yaanze na GENETICS,hapo mapungufu ya chemistry yanaonekana,lakini kabla hatujailaumu chemistry kwa kukosa ufumbuzi wa genetics inabidi tuanze na physics !
1. What exploded?Uhai katika dunia ulianza miaka 3.5bilion ilopita,katika kipindi cha Cambrian explosion.
Katika mika 4.5bilioni ilopita, ambayo ni kadirio la umri wa dunia, hakukua na bacteria.So katika miaka 3.5bilion ilopita uhai ukaanza taratibu katika dunia kutokana na Nitrogen ,Helium Hydrogen pamoja na hewa nyingine ndogo ambazo zilitokea katika spaces/sky baada ya Explosion.
No no no! what we say is, God did it and you who do not want that truth try to make a voodoo explanation of how things came. I mean compare what you believe and what I believe and see who is dumb hereBaadhi ya watu husema,We don't understand the origin of life on Earth ,so GO,D must done it!(kamba hatuelewi mwanzo wa uhai katika Dunia,kwa hiyo lazima mungu ndo alihusika).SI KWEL,.....
You are right. God is unaffected with whatever happens to science. God created Laws that govern science. We have uniformity (cornerstone of science) because God upholds the universe. How do you get science in random chance universe that you believe in? I mean how sure are you that same test tube is not going to randomly increase its temperature or that tomorrow 100 centigrade will somehow randomly become as cold as -1?Ninachojua mimi,mapungufu yaliyopo katika Sayansi hayamuumbi Mungu,wala hayasababishi Awepo
All athesists are just like you. They love to make strawman's argument. Your god i not omniscient so need to learn thru tria and error. Such is not the God I worship, creator of heaven and earth. Jehovah knows ALL things, and so does not need any improvement. He does what He pleases so does not need counsel. He is so powerful, Almighty that test tubes and human mind cannot contain Him. Your god is man made and does not exist.Sayansi inakuwa kila kukicha.Kama ni hivo basi atakuwa ni MUNGU wa mapungufu,(GOD OF GAPS),ambaye anaonekana tu katika few remaining Gaps in our understandings.
That have never changed God made your body. Even your hands are his handiwork. So whats your point?Nikukumbushe pia kabla ya Darwin na wengine,uhai na uwepo wetu,Miili na jinsi ifanyavyo kaz ,ilikuwa inaonekana kama miracles.Hakuna aliyeweza kusema nini ni nn na kila kitu ilikuw akaz ya mungu.
Una maana gani unaposema kazi ya Mungu? care to give references?Amini nakuambia hata mwaka 300AD,watu walikuwa wakiamini vitu kama Tsunami,Floods,Volcanic eruptions,Earthquake n.k ilikuwa kaz ya MUNGU,kama adhabu.
Uh! You seem to be ignorant person that s a way too pride to accept facts.Lakini leo vinaelezeka na kutabiriwa na mamlaka za hali ya Hewa na onyo linatolewa . Nachotaka kusema hapa ni kamba sayansi ,,inakuwa,, na itafumbua kila kitu.
I don't buy to that argument too. Its stupid argument to make.Kwangu mimi huwa naona kama n dalili za udhaifu ninaposikia kauli mfano,,""I DONT UNDERSTAND IT,THEREFORE GOD DID IT"" this is the kind of lazy argument.It doesn't help anything,but it leaves opens, since it doesn't explain even where God came from.
Big fat lie, Darwin did not do that. Prove me wrong with data. Actually Darwin said the oppositeKitu kikubwa alichofanya Darwin ni kuonesha ama kujuza ni jinsi gani unaweza kupata God like things/complex things (like humani Brain) kutoka katika omni nothing.
To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.
Ngoja nikusaidie. Common ancestor maana yake wote tulikuwa na mzazi mmoja. Yaani mzazi wako wa kwanza alikuwa bakteria. Kwa hiyo wewe na sokwe mnachangia wazazi wa mwanzo.Ngoja niongelee kidogo CONCEPT YA EVOLUTION,maana najua ntaulizwa mbona manyani hayabadiliki siku hiz..
Watu wengi wanadhani kwamba EVOLUTION,inaonglea/inahusu manyani/masokwe kumzaa ama kugeuka binadam,!,ni hiv,Miaka kama milioni 25,ilopita Human being(watu) walikuwa""Common Ancestor "",NA MONKEYS ,CHIMPANZEE ,GORILLAZ n.k.!
Hili ndo jambo gumu watu kuelewa,Kwa kiswahili ni kwamba ,HATUKUWA MANYANI WALA MASOKWE BALI TULISHARE BAADHI YA TABIA ,VITU,UMBO,MWONEKANO n.k.,huwa napata shida sana kuelezea jambo hili.So 25,yearz ago our ancestors might have look like monkey,gorillaz,or chimpanzees.Narudia,tena neno MIGHT HAVE LOOK LIKE,NOT THEY WERE MONKEYS !Mnachonishangaza ni kuwa:
1. Hamsemi miaka millioni 25 mmeipata kwa rekoki gani? Maana hakuna historia ya kubabia babia
2. Nani alikuwepo akaandika hiyo historia? Maana hiyo siyo observational science, ni history!
So its all sheer speculations that people choose to believe!
hata hivo uchunguz unaonesha tuko na ufanano wa karibu zaidi na CHIMPANZEE kuliko chimpanzee walivo na ufanano na gorillaz ama monkeys.Look careful airplanes below and tell me which evolved from another?
Je,evolution inaendelea?,hili swali ningelipata bila shaka,jibu ni NDIO,...I agree, but not in real world but in evolutions' imaginations!
Inaendelea lakini its too slow for us to see,kumbuka tunaishi kwa miongo michache na pia evolution its too slow to be noted easy .If it was not observed in past because it was too slow to be observed and now cannot since its too slow... how comes you call it science? You cannot observe it anywhere and anytime, why don't you call it religion?
Yes its something you guys believe by blind faith, a religion!
We can see it in Bacteria only too visibly ,because thats y,ant-biological resistance is such a big problem and more immensely important medical problem.Take this ,if the doctors at the time of invention of penicillin which Darwin wishes about them,they would been able to predict that resistance to ant-biotic.refers the book known as,, THE SCIENCE OF DARWINIAN,, MEDICINE .another vivid example of the continuation of Evolution is just look ok history,try to observe the physical appearance of the people live in 14c,15c or even 7century,you may not a lot of differences comparing to us.That is called adaptation, and is not evolution. That does not prove that men evolved from apes nor that we had common ancestor. Its just a display of self defense intelliegence. Go and ask people who have brains and will tell you intelligence must come from intelligent agent not blind random chance!
Presence of INTELLIGENT DESIGNER ?,
This logic is too low and poor!,
Well if explain intelligence by intelligent designer, God, is low and poor logic what about explosion making order?
To me when Jumbo Jet explodes we don't get little jets but disaster. Yours is poor, low, insane and dangerous way of reasoning. You can't be serious that a simple car can arise itself but complex human DNA arose by chance.
I an prove that there is NO Intelligent designerwhat proves that there is no intelligent designer?
1. DNA have coded language - We know language requires intelligence
2. Logic (which you refer) requires universal reference system which is beyond humans (for humans to be under it) so it demands Transcendental Logical Being, that is God
3. You can reason intelligently, do you? How can chemicals randomly acting on each other produces such person as you?
The only way to "prove" absence of Biblical God is suppressing the truth in unrighteousness. Is turning blind eye at what God have put as evidence and embrace stupid and dangerous religions such as evolution! No other way is available!
1,There is no EVIDENCES ON THAT ARGUMENT
2.BY HIS RESPONSIBILITY.
Plainly stupid argument unworthy of response!
This person God of tje JUDAISM ,CHRISTIANS,ISLAMS has nothing to do with the God who cares about us.Uninformed guy like you is likely to get confused.
Allah is not same as Jehovah, Creator God. All evidence of Creation point to right Creator and Owner of the Universe, Jehovah. He and He alone is God and He is not Allah!
And you say He does not care about us? You are such ungrateful person. Though you deny Him right here, He have given you His oxygen and even hands to write your foolish arguments. But that is not all. You have broken His laws, lying, stealing, lusting et al, and piles yourself His wrath. Instead of just punishing them (since you have no way to escape it) He came in the Person of Jesus, lived perfect life and dies a shameful death at the Cross, at the hand of those whom He created. Why Becaue He cared and loved som much that He agreed to pay price of all who will agree and forsake their sins and follow Him. He rose again and is preparing a place for those who will accept his offer of salvation.
Though He gives ou life, you deny Him. Though He paid the fine, you reject His gift and you try to make Him look like a careless monster. Though He makes heaven for all who accepts the gift of Salvation, you reject Him and hate Him.
What an ungrateful being you are!
This universe is not the same perfect universe that God made. Adam sinned, putting whole world under the Curse of God. We have even advanced in sin in our generations, destroying the creation of God day after day. So Its all our faults and have nothing to do with God, the faultless perfect God!Na katika uwanja wa Sayansi ,tukisema kama mapungufu yaliyopo yahusiane na mungu,hatuta muhusisha mungu nafsi!,,The same God created lawz of physics ?. Na kama katika Sayansi kukihitajika kuwa na Mungu,basi atakuwa DIASTIC GOD,And he is very very different from the Gods of religion ,na huyu ndiye aina ya kitu tunatumia muda kumuelezea.
You seem to lack basics in major areas you try to argue:Intelligence inakuja baada ya muda mwingi baada ya EVOLUTION,starting from nothing as we know and then chemistry takes over,Biology,.
1. Life comes only from life (Basic Biology Law)
2. Intelligence comes from Intelligence (Basic Law in Intelligence)
3. Information comes only fom Intelligence (Basic law in Information)
Get educated!
Kwa hiyo katika dunia kunaweza kuwa na Gods like humani being.Nakubali kwamba kunaweza kuwa na life forms than us,ambao tukikutana tutabidi tuwapigie magoti LAKINI WATABAKI KUWA ZAO LA MUENDELEZO(the product of the process ),of evolution devlpmt.they will not be GOD,S In the sense that having created the laws of physics,or tje universal or life!.
Let me end up here,karibun...
I will say thank you for proving Romans 1 right. Here I quote for those who does not know it!
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; [SUP]19 [/SUP]because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. [SUP]20[/SUP]For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: [SUP]21 [/SUP]because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, [SUP]23 [/SUP]and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: [SUP]25 [/SUP]who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
What I can advise you what I always advise atheist and other non-christians, and by this I do not mean profesing Christian but true ones.
Soon or later you will have to pass thru door of death and meet righetous Judge of the Universe: The God you vehemently deny He exists. The beuty side of it is you don't have to believe for Him to exist so you will meet Him anyway. And He will judge you according to the ins of your heart as well as you deeds. You will be sentenced to Hell...all without believing in it. You will believe it when you are in there, for there are no atheists in Hell!
The only wise thing you could do now is stop being proud of sins, they are taking you to dangerous end. Repent and by this I mean change your mind about sin and cry out to God for mercies and forgiveness of your sins. He will forgive you and give you eternal life. He will change your heart and desies and then you will know for sure He exists.
I have taken all of my precious time to answer you for one reason, I love you. I do not want you go to hell, its terribe place. So I want you to know that the arguments you cling to are not only stupid but also very dangerous. Your eternity welfare is at stake and am obligated by that love of God to tell you the truth.
Do not be deceived, Jesus is the only way truth and life. The cloak of atheism will take you to hell and I care enough to warn you.
God bless you,
Stefano
Stefano Mtangoo umejitahidi kujibu asante.Lakini kama ilivo kwa wengi wenu mnatumia Imani kujibu maswali yasiyohusu imani huku mkiuliza maswali pale tu mnapoona Sayansi haijagusa.Lakini pale mwanadam alipoweza hamgusi.Ndo mana kuna siku nilisema hapa kwamba kama mungu wenu yupo basi atakuwa God of Gaps.Maana anaonekana pale tu mnapodhani binadam anashindwa kutatua.
Kiufupi ni kwamba,Dini haijawahi kutatua tatizo lolote katika dunia hii,zaidi ya kuleta matatizo zaidi.
...,,kijana kubali kwamba ...You need Science to understand how the World real works.Your Religion does not answer any of the difficult challenges of life,what it does is only giving hope,.Which is in real sense hopeless because there no proof of it.
you dont need science to know how the world works but philosophy and theology.
Not that i dont know what science is but we depend on thinking and reasoning ,wisdom and love of knowledge
stefano wrote everything but your blind
God is a complicated entity which requires a much more certificated explanation than a Universal which is according to modern Physics a simple entity,it has a very simple beginning,it is not a negligible beginning which is very easy to explain than something complicated as God.
Am not blind mkuu,labda we usiyejua hata Sayansi n nn
Stefano Mtangoo umejitahidi kujibu asante.Lakini kama ilivo kwa wengi wenu mnatumia Imani kujibu maswali yasiyohusu imani huku mkiuliza maswali pale tu mnapoona Sayansi haijagusa.Lakini pale mwanadam alipoweza hamgusi.Ndo mana kuna siku nilisema hapa kwamba kama mungu wenu yupo basi atakuwa God of Gaps.Maana anaonekana pale tu mnapodhani binadam anashindwa kutatua.
Kiufupi ni kwamba,Dini haijawahi kutatua tatizo lolote katika dunia hii,zaidi ya kuleta matatizo zaidi.
...,,kijana kubali kwamba ...You need Science to understand how the World real works.Your Religion does not answer any of the difficult challenges of life,what it does is only giving hope,.Which is in real sense hopeless because there no proof of it.
Am not blind mkuu,labda we usiyejua hata Sayansi n nn
Sayansi hi hii iliyo shindwa kutuonyesha wapi ilipo Malaysian Airline Flight 370?
I see, kama Sayansi imeshindwa kutuoneysha kitu ambacho ilitengeza, kivipi ufikirie Sayansi itaweza kueleza na kumwelewa Mungu?
You don't know Sayansi Free Idea.
Kwako wewe Newton alipo sema gravitation ipo, basi ukasema Sayansi hiyoo imegundua!!!, kumbe Newton just came to understand the existence of it. Newton hakugundua chochete hapo. The force was always there. I mean hata DNA ilikuwepo siku zote na sio kuwa sayansi iligundua DNA. Jifunze kufikiria kijana. SASA unataka nikuonyeshe DNA kwenye BIBLIA? Maana wakati ule tulikuwa tuwafundisheni nyie kuwa the fundamental and distinctive characteristics au qualities za mtu na au Binadamu when regarded as unchanged mlifikiri tunasema IMANI.
Pole sana mfuta mkumbo.
Stefano Mtangoo umejitahidi kujibu asante.Lakini kama ilivo kwa wengi wenu mnatumia Imani kujibu maswali yasiyohusu imani huku mkiuliza maswali pale tu mnapoona Sayansi haijagusa.Lakini pale mwanadam alipoweza hamgusi.Ndo mana kuna siku nilisema hapa kwamba kama mungu wenu yupo basi atakuwa God of Gaps.Maana anaonekana pale tu mnapodhani binadam anashindwa kutatua.
Kiufupi ni kwamba,Dini haijawahi kutatua tatizo lolote katika dunia hii,zaidi ya kuleta matatizo zaidi.
...,,kijana kubali kwamba ...You need Science to understand how the World real works.Your Religion does not answer any of the difficult challenges of life,what it does is only giving hope,.Which is in real sense hopeless because there no proof of it.
1. What exploded?
2. Where did energy to explode come from?
3. Who initiated explosion
4. How did eplosion create order? I was watching IDF exploding Rocket launching stations in Gaza and all was chaos not order. can you explain voodoo behind this explosion?
5. How did Hydrogen (that is, the gas produced by explosion) turn into all elements of Periodic table?
6. How do you get life from non-life?
I guarantee you, not one of the six question, none, is going to get a reasonable response than voodoo that time did it!
Stefano
Ishmael wew ndo mfuata mkumbo namba moja maana hata mungu unaemfuata humjui na huna uhakika kama yupo.Kiufupi ni kama umefungwa kitaamba machoni kisha unaambiwa tembea mbele.,Huku unapapasa papasa.
Nilikwambia unambie japo matatizo matatu ambayo Dini imeyatatua hadi sasa hapa duniani!.Ukashindwa!,Basi nambie mawili tu,ok basi hata moja!,.Hakuna faidi yoyote iletwayo na dini zaidi ya Vurugu na umasikini.
It seems we are going somewhere here.
Unaona jinsi unavyo endelea kujiweka kwenye hali mbaya!!!! HUU HAPA CHINI NI MSIBA KWAKOPoor thinking capacity !, Sasa nani wa kulaumiwa kati ya Sayansi na mungu wako?.Nilishakwambia kitambo kwamba Sayansi haijibu maswali yote!,Na pale panapoonekana kutokuwepo na majibu katika sayansi ndo Mnam-fix mungu wenu.mfano ni kauli yako ya sasa kwamba sayansi imeshindwa kuipata Malaysia plane.,Kwa akili zako ndogo umeona hapo jibu la kuwepo mungu ndo linakuja,poor you!.
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By Ishmael
Sayansi hi hii iliyo shindwa kutuonyesha wapi ilipo Malaysian Airline Flight 370?
I see, kama Sayansi imeshindwa kutuoneysha kitu ambacho ilitengeza, kivipi ufikirie Sayansi itaweza kueleza na kumwelewa Mungu?
You don't know Sayansi Free Idea.
Kwako wewe Newton alipo sema gravitation ipo, basi ukasema Sayansi hiyoo imegundua!!!, kumbe Newton just came to understand the existence of it. Newton hakugundua chochete hapo. The force was always there. I mean hata DNA ilikuwepo siku zote na sio kuwa sayansi iligundua DNA. Jifunze kufikiria kijana. SASA unataka nikuonyeshe DNA kwenye BIBLIA? Maana wakati ule tulikuwa tuwafundisheni nyie kuwa the fundamental and distinctive characteristics au qualities za mtu na au Binadamu when regarded as unchanged mlifikiri tunasema IMANI.
Pole sana mfuta mkumbo.
Ishmael wew ndo mfuata mkumbo namba moja maana hata mungu unaemfuata humjui na huna uhakika kama yupo.Kiufupi ni kama umefungwa kitaamba machoni kisha unaambiwa tembea mbele.,Huku unapapasa papasa.
Nilikwambia unambie japo matatizo matatu ambayo Dini imeyatatua hadi sasa hapa duniani!.Ukashindwa!,Basi nambie mawili tu,ok basi hata moja!,.Hakuna faidi yoyote iletwayo na dini zaidi ya Vurugu na umasikini.
Hayo maswali HATO WEZA KUJIBU na atajifanya wala hakuwai kuyaona na kusepa.
Free Idea, for the sake of the thread and your belief, PLEASE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
do not ASSUME WHAT YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS IF YOU COULD KNOW WHAT IT IS I THINK YOU COULDNT DARE TO RISE ASSUMPTIONS.
IS no.7 A COINCEDENCE??