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Haya ni majibu kwa thread: Papa aiomba msamaha Rwanda kwa Mapadre kushiriki mauwaji ya kimbari 1994 by barafu. cc: Fais12
Kingsharon92
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Today the Holy Father, Pope Francis, prayed for forgiveness for the sins and failings of the church and its members in the 1994 massacres, which he referred to as genocide.
Some news outlests have interpreted this Theologically loaded statement to mean that the Pope has accepted criminal responsibility for the 1994 Rwandan massacres. This is a wrong interpretation of the Vicar of Christ's statement. Proponents of this erroneous reasoning probably lack understanding of the meaning of the Church. What's Church? Refer to Vatican 11 Documents under Lumen Gentium.
The Pope used clear terms " forgiveness, ... sin, failing ..." These terms have nothing to do with crime ( massacres or genocide) criminal responsibility and/or criminal liability.
The Holy Church cannot bear criminal responsibility, on behalf of its remember, except where any criminal liability theory applies. What happened during the 1994 massacres in Rwanda triggers no criminal liability theory for the Catholic Church. Each person that massacred people is criminally liable for his/her crimes.
What the Vicar of Christ said is the ordinary faith of the Holy Catholic Church that the Church - the living Body of Jesus Christ on earth - in its human nature constantly needs God's Grace. Whenever the Christians celebrate the Holy Eucharist, they pray or ask for forgiveness for the sins and failing of the Holy Body of Christ on earth to grow into Holiness by God's Grace. These Principles are enshrined in Vatican 11 Documents under Lumen Gentium.
As a body of Pilgrims ( all humanity), the Holy Church is beyond its declared members. Some people do not know that they, too, belong to the Holy Church yet they are members of the Holy Church. This principle is found under Nostra Aetate.
Therefore, when the Vicar of Christ prays for forgiveness for the sins and failing of the Church and it's member, the Holy Father is praying for the entire humanity i.e the Church as explained in Lumen Gentium and the Church as it relates to the entire universe; Nostra Aetate.
The Pope's prayer for forgiveness is by the entire humanity, including Kagame, to God the Father to give us the Grace we need to be better people.
The Pope's statement is not admission that the Church committed genocide. And indeed, there is no known theory in criminal law or Torts, by which the Catholic Church can be responsible for any of its member's crimes during the 1994 massacres in Rwanda.
source: Charles Kambanda, therwandan.com
THE ORIGINAL PRESS RELEASE IS HERE: Ni wapi Rwanda imeombwa msamaha hapo?
Press Communiqué: Audience with the President of the Republic of Rwanda, 20.03.2017
Today, Monday 20 March, at the Apostolic Palace, the Holy Father, Pope Francis, received in Audience His Excellency Mr Paul Kagame, President of the Republic of Rwanda. Subsequently, the President met His Eminence Cardinal Pietro Parolin, Secretary of State, who was accompanied by His Excellency, Archbishop Paul R. Gallagher, Secretary for Relations with States.
During the cordial exchanges, the good relations that exist between the Holy See and Rwanda were recalled. Appreciation was expressed for the notable path of recovery towards the social, political and economic stabilisation of the country. Likewise noted was the collaboration between the State and the local Church in the work of national reconciliation and in the consolidation of peace, for the benefit of the whole Nation. In this context, the Pope conveyed his profound sadness, and that of the Holy See and of the Church, for the genocide against the Tutsi.
He expressed his solidarity with the victims and with those who continue to suffer the consequences of those tragic events and, evoking the gesture of Pope Saint John Paul II during the Great Jubilee of the Year 2000, he implored anew God’s forgiveness for the sins and failings of the Church and its members, among whom priests, and religious men and women who succumbed to hatred and violence, betraying their own evangelical mission.
In light of the recent Holy Year of Mercy and of the Statement published by the Rwandan Bishops at its conclusion, the Pope also expressed the desire that this humble recognition of the failings of that period, which, unfortunately, disfigured the face of the Church, may contribute to a “purification of memory” and may promote, in hope and renewed trust, a future of peace, witnessing to the concrete possibility of living and working together, once the dignity of the human person and the common good are put at the centre.
Finally, there was an exchange of views about the political, social and regional situation, with attention to those places that are suffering conflicts and natural calamities. A particular concern was expressed for the large number of refugees and migrants in need of help and support from the international community and from regional structures.
source: Press Communiqué: Audience with the President of the Republic of Rwanda
Kingsharon92
kwenda21
Gerasmus
eliakeem
https://www.jamiiforums.com/members/kwenda21.214166/
Today the Holy Father, Pope Francis, prayed for forgiveness for the sins and failings of the church and its members in the 1994 massacres, which he referred to as genocide.
Some news outlests have interpreted this Theologically loaded statement to mean that the Pope has accepted criminal responsibility for the 1994 Rwandan massacres. This is a wrong interpretation of the Vicar of Christ's statement. Proponents of this erroneous reasoning probably lack understanding of the meaning of the Church. What's Church? Refer to Vatican 11 Documents under Lumen Gentium.
The Pope used clear terms " forgiveness, ... sin, failing ..." These terms have nothing to do with crime ( massacres or genocide) criminal responsibility and/or criminal liability.
The Holy Church cannot bear criminal responsibility, on behalf of its remember, except where any criminal liability theory applies. What happened during the 1994 massacres in Rwanda triggers no criminal liability theory for the Catholic Church. Each person that massacred people is criminally liable for his/her crimes.
What the Vicar of Christ said is the ordinary faith of the Holy Catholic Church that the Church - the living Body of Jesus Christ on earth - in its human nature constantly needs God's Grace. Whenever the Christians celebrate the Holy Eucharist, they pray or ask for forgiveness for the sins and failing of the Holy Body of Christ on earth to grow into Holiness by God's Grace. These Principles are enshrined in Vatican 11 Documents under Lumen Gentium.
As a body of Pilgrims ( all humanity), the Holy Church is beyond its declared members. Some people do not know that they, too, belong to the Holy Church yet they are members of the Holy Church. This principle is found under Nostra Aetate.
Therefore, when the Vicar of Christ prays for forgiveness for the sins and failing of the Church and it's member, the Holy Father is praying for the entire humanity i.e the Church as explained in Lumen Gentium and the Church as it relates to the entire universe; Nostra Aetate.
The Pope's prayer for forgiveness is by the entire humanity, including Kagame, to God the Father to give us the Grace we need to be better people.
The Pope's statement is not admission that the Church committed genocide. And indeed, there is no known theory in criminal law or Torts, by which the Catholic Church can be responsible for any of its member's crimes during the 1994 massacres in Rwanda.
source: Charles Kambanda, therwandan.com
THE ORIGINAL PRESS RELEASE IS HERE: Ni wapi Rwanda imeombwa msamaha hapo?
Press Communiqué: Audience with the President of the Republic of Rwanda, 20.03.2017
Today, Monday 20 March, at the Apostolic Palace, the Holy Father, Pope Francis, received in Audience His Excellency Mr Paul Kagame, President of the Republic of Rwanda. Subsequently, the President met His Eminence Cardinal Pietro Parolin, Secretary of State, who was accompanied by His Excellency, Archbishop Paul R. Gallagher, Secretary for Relations with States.
During the cordial exchanges, the good relations that exist between the Holy See and Rwanda were recalled. Appreciation was expressed for the notable path of recovery towards the social, political and economic stabilisation of the country. Likewise noted was the collaboration between the State and the local Church in the work of national reconciliation and in the consolidation of peace, for the benefit of the whole Nation. In this context, the Pope conveyed his profound sadness, and that of the Holy See and of the Church, for the genocide against the Tutsi.
He expressed his solidarity with the victims and with those who continue to suffer the consequences of those tragic events and, evoking the gesture of Pope Saint John Paul II during the Great Jubilee of the Year 2000, he implored anew God’s forgiveness for the sins and failings of the Church and its members, among whom priests, and religious men and women who succumbed to hatred and violence, betraying their own evangelical mission.
In light of the recent Holy Year of Mercy and of the Statement published by the Rwandan Bishops at its conclusion, the Pope also expressed the desire that this humble recognition of the failings of that period, which, unfortunately, disfigured the face of the Church, may contribute to a “purification of memory” and may promote, in hope and renewed trust, a future of peace, witnessing to the concrete possibility of living and working together, once the dignity of the human person and the common good are put at the centre.
Finally, there was an exchange of views about the political, social and regional situation, with attention to those places that are suffering conflicts and natural calamities. A particular concern was expressed for the large number of refugees and migrants in need of help and support from the international community and from regional structures.
source: Press Communiqué: Audience with the President of the Republic of Rwanda
