My Verdict: Kenya has done it...

Mzee Mwanakijiji · Mar 8, 2013

My Verdict: Kenya has passed its most darkest hour as a nation; they have passed with flying colors! The people were given every reason to start "something" but they refused the temptation to resort to violence or boycotting of the results. The "peace" campaign that ran over several months has finally paid of. The people of Kenya are not building a nation/ a people. Yes they are divided along tribal lines but this time those lines though pronounced but were not as strong as people feared. The sentiment of 'nationhood' has prevailed, remarkably and forcefully! No party, no leader, no grudges, no fear became stronger than the feeling of what was at stake - the gains that the nation has made over these past years. The greatest challenge though is the reaction of Raila - will he prove to be a statesman that he is and concede defeat after all tallies are in? Is he going to challenge in court? Unless there is a runoff, if Uhuru wins, Raila should and must concede humbly and honorably...

Hayajamani · Mar 8, 2013

Kweli, ila Kenya ukabila unaonekana waziwazi! Nasi TZ udini, UCCM vs Upinzani sijui, tuombe Mungu.

Kobello · Mar 8, 2013

Who owns Kenya's land?
Thats the issue ..... presence of peace doesn't characterize liberty, but presence of justice.

Kijakazi · Mar 8, 2013

Mzee Mwanakijiji said:
My Verdict: Kenya has passed its most darkest hour as a nation; they have passed with flying colors! The people were given every reason to start "something" but they refused the temptation to resort to violence or boycotting of the results. The "peace" campaign that ran over several months has finally paid of. The people of Kenya are not building a nation/ a people. Yes they are divided along tribal lines but this time those lines though pronounced but were not as strong as people feared. The sentiment of 'nationhood' has prevailed, remarkably and forcefully! No party, no leader, no grudges, no fear became stronger than the feeling of what was at stake - the gains that the nation has made over these past years. The greatest challenge though is the reaction of Raila - will he prove to be a statesman that he is and concede defeat after all tallies are in? Is he going to challenge in court? Unless there is a runoff, if Uhuru wins, Raila should and must concede humbly and honorably...

Its a good thing! But Its still a wishful thinking, Mr. Raila Odinga won't go quietly. He just cant afford to do that!
There's too much Money involved. It's not Possible! Somebody some where must get his Money back!

Ab-Titchaz · Mar 8, 2013

Mzee Mwanakijiji said:
My Verdict: Kenya has passed its most darkest hour as a nation; they have passed with flying colors! The people were given every reason to start "something" but they refused the temptation to resort to violence or boycotting of the results. The "peace" campaign that ran over several months has finally paid of. The people of Kenya are not building a nation/ a people. Yes they are divided along tribal lines but this time those lines though pronounced but were not as strong as people feared. The sentiment of 'nationhood' has prevailed, remarkably and forcefully! No party, no leader, no grudges, no fear became stronger than the feeling of what was at stake - the gains that the nation has made over these past years. The greatest challenge though is the reaction of Raila - will he prove to be a statesman that he is and concede defeat after all tallies are in? Is he going to challenge in court? Unless there is a runoff, if Uhuru wins, Raila should and must concede humbly and honorably...

While I want to agree with you I respectfully disagree on the highlighted part. Everyone in Kenya and I mean
everyone...has the right to due process. So if Raila feels aggrieved and he has evidence to proove any wrong
doing in this election, then he has every right to go to court rather than 'humbly and honorably conceed'.
Thats why his supporters love him....coz he always stands for what is right and on the side of justice.

Let posterity judge him if he was a statesman or not but to fight for justice and to stand against impunity
he must. That is the calling for which he was ordained for.

I humbly state my opinion.

Ab-Titchaz · Mar 8, 2013

Kobello said:
Who owns Kenya's land?
Thats the issue ..... presence of peace doesn't characterize liberty, but presence of justice.

Well stated Kobello. And on the same breath, 'The abscence of war does not necessarily mean peace.'

Kijakazi · Mar 8, 2013

Ab-Titchaz said:
While I want to agree with you I respectfully disagree on the highlighted part. Everyone in Kenya and I mean
everyone...has the right to due process. So if Raila feels aggrieved and he has evidence to proof any wrong
doing in this election, then he has every right to go to court rather than 'humbly and honorably conceed'.
Thats why his supporters love him....coz he always stands for what is right and on the side of justice.

Let posterity judge him if he was a statesman or not but to fight for justice and to stand against impunity
he must. That is the calling for which he was ordained for.

I humbly state my opinion.

Mkikuyu hawezi kukubali kutawaliwa na Mjaluo piga Ua, Mtazunguka kote, mtaongelea Demokrasia mnavyotaka, lkn mwisho wa siku, Mkikuyu hawezi kukubali, hata jeshi lenyewe haliwezi kumtii Bw. Raila Odinga akitangazwa mshindi!

The Boss · Mar 8, 2013

Ab-Titchaz said:
While I want to agree with you I respectfully disagree on the highlighted part. Everyone in Kenya and I mean
everyone...has the right to due process. So if Raila feels aggrieved and he has evidence to proof any wrong
doing in this election, then he has every right to go to court rather than 'humbly and honorably conceed'.
Thats why his supporters love him....coz he always stands for what is right and on the side of justice.

Let posterity judge him if he was a statesman or not but to fight for justice and to stand against impunity
he must. That is the calling for which he was ordained for.

I humbly state my opinion.

Huu uchaguzi hauwezi kuitwa free and fair
kuna a lot needs to be addressed

Mzee Mwanakijiji · Mar 8, 2013

The way I see it is that.. blame the ICC... and the US... the Kikuyu came to defend one of their own...i think if Raila had been indicted by the ICC there would have been enough sympathetic votes...

Ab-Titchaz · Mar 8, 2013

Mzee Mwanakijiji said:
The way I see it is that.. blame the ICC... and the US... the Kikuyu came to defend one of their own...i think if Raila had been indicted by the ICC there would have been enough sympathetic votes...

Mkuu,

mzima ulipo? Mwenzio nipo kazini na umeanza kunigusa pabaya....:A S shade:

Pretty soon I will start an ICC thread as I usually do and I hope to see you there.

First and foremost ICC imeingiaje humu katika hii mada mkuu?...and why should they be blamed in the 1st place?..or even the US?

...what do you mean by the kikuyu came to defend their own?...about what?

TIQO · Mar 8, 2013

Wao wamechagua Uhuru sisi tulichagua Kikwete matokeo yake tumeyaona na wao wataona matokeo yake kama hawajarudi enzi za KANU sijjui.

BAK · Mar 8, 2013

Mhhh! Blame ICC!!!!....I beg to differ with your assumption....uchaguzi umechakachuliwa hakuna la zaidi.

Mzee Mwanakijiji said:
The way I see it is that.. blame the ICC... and the US... the Kikuyu came to defend one of their own...i think if Raila had been indicted by the ICC there would have been enough sympathetic votes...

ZeMarcopolo · Mar 8, 2013

Kijakazi said:
Mkikuyu hawezi kukubali kutawaliwa na Mjaluo piga Ua, Mtazunguka kote, mtaongelea Demokrasia mnavyotaka, lkn mwisho wa siku, Mkikuyu hawezi kukubali, hata jeshi lenyewe haliwezi kumtii Bw. Raila Odinga akitangazwa mshindi!

Hii inasound too extreme. Kwanini iwe presumed kuwa wao ni bora zaidi? Mbona kuwa wengi wameajiriwa na makampuni ya mtu wa kabila lingine na maisha yanasonga...

ZeMarcopolo · Mar 8, 2013

Nadhani katika uchaguzi huu tukiziweka mada well focused kwenye threads tutakuwa na mijadala very educative.

Tai Ngwilizi · Mar 8, 2013

Mzee Mwanakijiji said:
My Verdict: Kenya has passed its most darkest hour as a nation; they have passed with flying colors! The people were given every reason to start "something" but they refused the temptation to resort to violence or boycotting of the results. The "peace" campaign that ran over several months has finally paid of. The people of Kenya are not building a nation/ a people. Yes they are divided along tribal lines but this time those lines though pronounced but were not as strong as people feared. The sentiment of 'nationhood' has prevailed, remarkably and forcefully! No party, no leader, no grudges, no fear became stronger than the feeling of what was at stake - the gains that the nation has made over these past years. The greatest challenge though is the reaction of Raila - will he prove to be a statesman that he is and concede defeat after all tallies are in? Is he going to challenge in court? Unless there is a runoff, if Uhuru wins, Raila should and must concede humbly and honorably...

Yes. I think the voters have been doing their best. How they've achieved such a great turn out is something we Tanzanians should learn from.

kitalolo · Mar 8, 2013

Ab-Titchaz said:
Well stated Kobello. And on the same breath, 'The abscence of war does not necessarily mean peace.'

Ni kweli maana hata hapa Tanzania Hatuna vita lakini pia hatuna amani bali tuna woga na hofu ya vita

JiweLinaloishi · Mar 8, 2013

The Boss said:
Huu uchaguzi hauwezi kuitwa free and fair
kuna a lot needs to be addressed

sure especially tume inapoahidi matokeo ndani ya 24hrs then wanapata vigugumizi visivyokwisha inatia shaka sana,
kuendelea kuchelewesha matokeo ni kuzidi kuiweka amani ya wakennya matatani

TIQO · Mar 8, 2013

Jiwe Linaloishi said:
sure especially tume inapoahidi matokeo ndani ya 24hrs then wanapata vigugumizi visivyokwisha inatia shaka sana,
kuendelea kuchelewesha matokeo ni kuzidi kuiweka amani ya wakennya matatani

Wanajitahidi kutumia akili ya interejinsia

Fukuyama · Mar 8, 2013

Haya let wait and see the ultimate end

MABAGHEE · Mar 8, 2013

There is a lot to suspect about the credibility of the results. Some of the results that have not been announced are those from Nairobi and Rift valley. I am wondering as to why results from Nairobi and Rift Valley constituencies came late given the fact that transport and communication networks in those areas is good. Was there any rigging? Just think about it? Kikuyu and Kalenjin bwana!

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