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sawa bwana Mzee, kisha Mungu aliagiza kipi kuhusu Wapalestina wanaoishi huko? au hakuwaumba?
Walikubali kwa maneno angalia vitendo. We mwanaume akisema anakupenda hata km kwa vitendo anachepuka bado utashikiria kuwa anakupenda?
Acha ushabiki MUNGU hadhihakiwi.
Israel kwa sasa imebaki na US tu...nae akimtema basi kaisha...EU wameshamchoka...kuna lecture niliudhuria juzi kati ya jamaa mmoja alikuwa na moja kati ya vyeo vya juu sana UN (keshastaafu maana ana miaka 80 sasa) aliulizwa swali kuhusu Israel na failure ya UN ku solve huu mgogoro...akasema tatizo ni US tu pamoja na Evangelicals...hapo sikumuelewa hao Evangelicals wanakujaje... labda mnaojua historia ya dini mtuelimishe...maana sikupata muda wa kumuuliza afafanue...
Why Evangelical Support for Israel is a Good ThingBy Abraham H. Foxman
National Director of the Anti-Defamation League
It has been said time and again that Israel is today facing the greatest crisis in years. It has also been noted that a key factor that makes Israel's situation less desperate than it might be is the fact that the United States, the world's superpower, stands up -- many times alone -- on behalf of an embattled Israel.
These realities should make American Jews highly appreciative of the incredible support that the State of Israel gets from a significant group of Americans -- the Evangelical Christian Right. In many ways, the Christian Right stands out as the most consistently supportive group of Israel in America.
In the Congress, support for Israel is strong on both sides of the aisle, among liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans. Most importantly, the issue has not been seen as one reflecting the views of a parochial lobbying group provoking significant support but also significant opposition. Rather, it is seen as above partisan politics.
Having said that, there is no doubt that Evangelical members are notably aggressive in their support, proposing resolutions and speaking out forcefully. This is especially noteworthy during the current Administration, as they are conveying their sentiments to a President who shares many of their religious and social perspectives.
Similarly, polls of American public opinion reveal, in marked contrast to similar polls in Europe, that the American people support Israel over the Palestinians by a significant margin. A key element in these consistent findings in many polls ever since the violence broke out almost 2 years ago -- is the overwhelming support for Israel among individuals calling themselves Evangelical.
On many public occasions, including at rallies and meetings, on TV and radio appearances, Evangelicals have become regulars, a pro-Israel presence alongside the Jewish community. While such support is evident from other significant parts of the body politic, support from Evangelicals is especially consistent and unreserved.
Still, there continues to be a reluctance in certain sections of the American Jewish community to welcome or encourage Evangelical support. Several factors come into play. Many mainstream American Jewish organizations have major disagreements with Evangelicals on many domestic issues -- Church - State separation, abortion, and attitudes towards gays.
ADL and other Jewish organizations have made clear in its dealings with Evangelicals that we will continue to be forceful advocates for our very different perspective on these issues before the American people, despite Evangelical support for Israel. Importantly, at no point have we heard them place any conditions on their support. There is no quid pro quo. At no point have we had to choose between our fundamental principals concerning the role of religion in America and our appreciation for their standing with Israel.
Some say that Evangelicals are behind Israel for the wrong reasons: they see Israel's existence as a necessary precursor for Armageddon and the second coming of Christ, visions which do not include a place for Jews. These religious beliefs, however, speak to an unknown future (indeed one that Jews do not envision). Meanwhile, the very real present is one in which Evangelical leaders are educating their publics about the importance of Israel's existence, security and well-being, that no amount of public relations and advertising budgets could buy.
Finally, it is said that Evangelicals have a high degree of anti-Semitism in their communities. There is no doubt that there is a history of anti-Semitism among Evangelicals, based on an old theology that Jews deserve punishment because they rejected Jesus. Today, that perspective has been superceded by the new special role of the Jews in the modern State of Israel. Indeed, Evangelical leaders such as Ralph Reed have apologized for anti-Semitism in the past and have eloquently spoken to their communities about rejecting any element of anti-Semitism.
ADL polls on anti-Semitism in America show no greater inclination of Evangelical Christians to harbor hateful views of Jews than other groups in American society. As to the one area of legitimate concern -- efforts to proselytize Jews that continues among some Evangelical ministers -- ADL and others have vigorously denounced such efforts whenever they surface.
In sum, American Jews should not be apologetic or defensive about cultivating Evangelical support for Israel. The need for support by an Israel under siege is great. Fortunately, Evangelical support is overwhelming, consistent, and unconditional. And the fears that such support will undermine our impact on other concerns that American Jews have are overblown, since we will continue, to articulate in forceful ways our significant disagreements on social issues.
Kilaza kweli wewe, eti nchi ya ahadi, ahadi yao waliambiwa wauwe watoto, wanawake, na watu wasio kuwa na hatia wala silaha ndio waikomboe nchi ya ahadi? Hiyo pesa ya nchi huru ya Palestina mwaka 1927 wakati huo Israel ilikuwa wapi?
Nchi ya ahadi. We huwezi kupingana na ahadi za MUNGU wa kweli. Yaliyokwenye bible lazima yote yatimie ikiwamo jurudisha ardhi yote kwa waisrael
Nchi ya ahadi. We huwezi kupingana na ahadi za MUNGU wa kweli. Yaliyokwenye bible lazima yote yatimie ikiwamo jurudisha ardhi yote kwa waisrael
Nchi ya ahadi. We huwezi kupingana na ahadi za MUNGU wa kweli. Yaliyokwenye bible lazima yote yatimie ikiwamo jurudisha ardhi yote kwa waisrael
Mkuu, hii article huenda ikajibu unauliza
Source: Evangelical Support for Israel is a Good Thing
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Nimeelewa...thanks...ingawa inabidi nitafute maana nyingine za concepts nyingi mpya zilizotumika kwenye hiyo article...
Mimi kwanza hata siwajui hao Evangelical ndio kina nani? Walokole?
Kwa hiyo huyo Mungu wako ndio anaesadia huo ushenzi wa Israel? Basi Mungu huyo kituko kweli.Na hawa wa Israeli si ndii waliomtandika nijeledi Yesu hawa! Kwa hiyo Mungu katandikwa bakora ndio akawaahidi fanyeni ushenzi mtakavyo.Walikubali kwa maneno angalia vitendo. We mwanaume akisema anakupenda hata km kwa vitendo anachepuka bado utashikiria kuwa anakupenda?
Acha ushabiki MUNGU hadhihakiwi.
{Say: We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered.} (Al-Baqarah 2: 136)
Hapo sijamuona katajwa mtungaji wa Bibilia(Paulo), lazima atakuwa shetani tu ndio sababu kawapoteza, sababu yeye ni MuIsrael:becky:
dogo hapo ndio umeonyesha ujinga wako, nyie mnamini Yesu si Issa sa Yesu jina hilo mmelipata wapi wakati lugha ya kina Yesu hakuna jina la Yesu:becky:Uislamu ni dini ya kisela.
mnaamini allah=Mungu wa kweli
mnaamini braham, moses, etc wa mbalandohuyohuyo wa masaki au wa tz ndohuyo wa Sweden. Sijui mnaita mtiume wanaaopatikana kwenye kitabu ambacho ukikojolea unageuka mjusi eti ndo haohao wanaopatikana kwenye bible takatifu!!!!!!!!!....Mnadhrau sn nyie wala nguruwe kwa siri
sawa bwana Mzee, kisha Mungu aliagiza kipi kuhusu Wapalestina wanaoishi huko? au hakuwaumba?
dogo hapo ndio umeonyesha ujinga wako, nyie mnamini Yesu si Issa sa Yesu jina hilo mmelipata wapi wakati lugha ya kina Yesu hakuna jina la Yesu:becky:
dogo unaonyesha hata shule ulikimbia hujamaliza, pole sana kamwmabie baba yako bado una chance ya kurudi kusoma asikwepe kukulipia pesa za kununua viazi asubuhi:becky:Du bado unaazimisha mtume wa john wa mbagala azima awe ndo huyohuyo wa tanga kwa sababu tu wanafanana anjina? Shidazenu mnashindwa kuchanganya akili za kichochochezi kutka misikiti kote duniani na akili halisi mlizoumbwa nazo.
Kwa hiyo kati ya mitume wenu aliyewafundisha vitu kama kuua ili uende peponi, kuoa vivulana, kuoa wake hovyo na kuzalisha watoto wa mitaani, kujitolea muhanda na uchafu wote ambao wautendao wanashika quran ni nani mwalimu wa haya yote???????
Nikuulize kitu: Unadhani mototo wa kiislamu akikojolea bibilia 100 wakristo watachoma misikiti mingapi?
Hao ni wavamizi.....ila allah anakudanganya sana. Ndo maana inaitwa nchi ya ahadi ndo pale kwani dunia imejaa mpaka wagande pale km KUPE?/?
Mgogoro ule unaendelezwa na makundi mawili, kundi la kwanza ni wale wenye maslahi ya kiuchumi na kisiasa,hawa wanajulikana. Kundi la pili ni hawa jamaa zangu wanaojifanya wana uhusiano aidha wa kiroho au wa kiukoo na Israel ili hali hawajui chochote juu ya taifa hili kwa undani ila maneno tu ya mtaani, someni mtawajua vizuri hawa watu mwarabu ni nani mpalestina ni nani, myahudi ni nani, ndipo useme sasa muisrael ni nani? . Nani anastahili nini?
Kwamba USA imeanza kuichoka Israel? Mkuu hicho kitu sahau. As a matter of fact, USA's security system imeshikiliwa na Israel be it the national economy or social security. So USA haiwezi kuiacha Israel labda ISRAEL iiache USA!!!
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