Here we go again: Men blamed for menopause

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Hot flushes, night sweats, mood swings - menopause and its side effects can all be blamed on men, experts suggest. Evolutionary geneticists from Canada’s McMaster University say men’s tendency to choose younger mates meant fertility became pointless for older women. In PLOS Computational Biology, they say this eventually led to the menopause. But another expert had said that was the "wrong way round" and men chose younger women because older women were less fertile.

Preferential mating

Researchers have long been puzzled as to why it appears that human are the only species where females cannot reproduce throughout their lives. Previous theories had proposed a "grandmother effect". This suggests that women lose their fertility at an age where they might not live to see a child grow, and instead are available to care for younger women’s children. The menopause was therefore seen as the block to older women from continuing to reproduce.

But this latest theory suggests things work the other way around, and that it is the lack of reproduction that has given rise to menopause. Using computer modelling, the team from McMaster's concluded "preferential mating" was the evolutionary answer - men of all ages choosing younger women as partners. That meant there was "no purpose" in older women continuing to be fertile.

Prof Rama Singh, an evolutionary geneticist who led the study, said men choosing younger mates were "stacking the odds" against continued fertility. He told the BBC: "There is evidence in human history; there was always a preference for younger women." Prof Singh stressed they were looking at human development many thousands of years ago - rather than current social patterns.

'Evolved response'

In the UK, the average age for women to go through the menopause is now 52 even though the average woman goes on to live for another 30 years. Prof Singh said this extended longevity - plus later childbirth - could potentially alter the timing of the menopause, over a significant period of time.

"The social system is changing. There are women who are starting families later, because of education or a career." He suggested this trend would mean those women would have a later menopause, and those genes would be passed on to their daughters "with the possibility of menopausal age being delayed".

However Dr Maxwell Burton-Chellew, an evolutionary biologist in the department of zoology at the University of Oxford, challenged the theory. "The authors argue that the menopause exists in humans because males have a strong preference for younger females. "However, this is probably the wrong way round - the human male preference for younger females is likely to be because older females are less fertile.

"I think it makes more sense to see the human male preference for younger females largely as an evolved response to the menopause, and to assume that ancestral males would have been wise to mate with any females that could produce offspring.” He added: "Evolutionarily-speaking, older females faced an interesting 'choice': have a child that may not reach adulthood before your own death, or stop reproducing and instead focus on helping your younger relatives reproduce."

BBC News - Men 'to blame for the menopause'
 
interesting story. i guess this gives credence to the saying ''wanawake wanazeeka mapema''. are human females biologically pre-disposed to menopause at midlife age? i wasn't aware other mammals keep reproducing throughout their lives.
 
I think female humans go to menopause because that is their "natural" life expectancy. I would go with the first theory that claims that there is no purpose for them having kids if they won't live enough to see them grow. So don't worry EMT, men going to younger girls is the result of their old partner's inability to conceive and not the other way round.
Extending our life expectancy to 80 might not extend the fertility period because it doesn't seem natural to me. from -say-60 most humans retire from any activity and become more or less dependent on people or the system, kwa kweli to me there is no point living that long, let alone having babies.
 
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don't you wish to reach this age
 
EMT A human female typically has about 400,000 follicles/potential eggs, all formed before birth, only several of these eggs will be matured during her fertile age and these are just 480 eggs.
sasa twende hivi kimahesabu assume the lady matures at age of 12 that means she will be discharging a minimum of single egg each month, fikiria pia this lady ataanza kuzaa akiwa na 25 yrs so hadi kufika 25 toka kwenye 12 kuna mayai yapatayo 13 *12= 156 atakuwa tayari ameshapoteza.
yai moja litachavushwa so kama akizaa mara 5 ni mayai 5. atazaa watoto hawa wa5 ndani ya miaka 10 hivyo kwenye miaka hii kumi atakuwa amepata menstruation kila mwaka kwa miezi 6 tu ambayo nayo itakuwa imetumia mayai 6*10=60 hapa sasa utakuwa una jumla ya mayai 216 yatakuwa yametumiwa kwa njia ya hedhi na 5 kwa kua watt. kwa hiyo jumla ni mayai 221. toa kwenye 480 unapata 259 ndio yanabaki.
tuje sasa binti huyu toka anaanza kuzaa na miaka 25 atamaliza kwa miaka 35 minimum. wakati anamaliza miaka 35 atakuwa na jumla ya mayai 259 tu ambayo ni wastani wa miaka 21 mbele so ukijumlisha kwenye miaka yake 35 atakuwa na miaka 56. inamaana kwamba this lady will have no eggs at the age of 56 maximum. and thats where menopouse marks its beggining.

kwa maana hiyo who ever is saying that walaumiwe wanaume he is wrong as Mungu mwenyewe aliumba hivyo and mind you the remaing follicles are used as a nutrient supplier to the succsessful eggs, the do nourish the matured eggs. plus nourishing the ovaries.
 
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Mungu apishe mbali, God forbid!

why saying so Mwali it is written in the holy scriptures that for many ages i will feed you and that you shall live to see the goodness of the lord,
 
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I think menopause (inability to conceive and not psychological aspect) is more of depletion of eggs from one's ovary. I think it is correct to assume that women who had children have their menopause later than those who never had children.

As is possible to have early 'surgical' menopause, its also probably possible to delay menopause by few years by having additional eggs in the ovary banks before depletion.

But if we resort to mother nature, menopause is a natural way guarantee mother-child caring in human.

This menopause which is lacking in males is probably linked to divorce at the very senior age e.g Lyudmla Putin just divorce to Putin at age 55 (likely menopause age). Over 60 percent of divorces are initiated by women in their 40s, 50s or 60s — the menopause years — according to a recent survey conducted by AARP Magazine.
Is this nature imbalance??
 
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