Dar es salaam Vs Nairobi, where i would rather live.

Dar es salaam Vs Nairobi, where i would rather live.
JANUARY 10, 2015 ~ LYLAC




DAR ES SALAAM CITY

I once was irked by everything about this city that i have grown to love. The heat, the slow pace of life, the jolly people, the over eager hopeful suitors,the feigned elongated pleasantries in greetings, greasy food just to mention but a few. The first months here were intolerable. My life was back in Nairobi, family, friends, coolest joints,pubs, discos, strip clubs. I was homesick. What, with the cool and calm weather, fast paced city life i was accustomed to back home.

But the city has been good to me, it really has. I just needed time to grow and adapt and i have. Albeit east west home is best. I have learnt to call this place home. There is much to be thankful for here.

The hot and humid weather is a natural sauna that rejuvenates my skin giving it a certain glow.The ease with which money can be made and lost. The beautiful clean sandy beaches i can relax in after a hard day at work, drinking a glass or two of wine that isn’t overpriced and heavily taxed as in the case back home. The sense of security. It is often joked that a robber in Tanzania can be recognized by a Kenyan from a mile off. That they may even approach you saying naomba nikuibie. May i please rob you? Exaggerated but somewhat true


NAIROBI CITY

Every visit to Nairobi now feels weird, like am a stranger in my own land. Changes here and there that seem to deepen that sense of unfamiliarity, more of that hood slang i cant comprehend. Clutching tightly at my purse and looking over my shoulders while in the city center in case some idiot down the street is planning to grab it and gallop away with the hope of draining away the few coins i have worked so hard for in a land far away.

If i had to choose which is easiest to live in now. I would give that trophy to Dar es salaam. The Residence of peace.

Kha! huyo haijui Dar vizuri, hivi anajua kuna Watanzania ukiwatuma Dar kikazi wanaona kama adhabu na wanatamani wamalize fasta na kugeuza. Mji wenyewe joto na mifoleni unatamani utelekeze gari barabarani, lakini hata hii Nairobi nataka kuihama, bado nawaza mji wa kuhamia hapa Kenya, uliotulia bila mikimbio ya kila siku.

Dar kama kazi yako haihusu mizunguko ya mjini inakua nafuu, kwanza kama unayo ofisi maeneo ya nje nje kama Tegeta au hata Kigamboni

Kuhusu foleni dar umekuja lini? That notion soon is going to be erased

.....more of that hoodslang I can't comrehend. Sheng kiboko yao! Kama kinampita sikioni basi huyu jamaa ni mtalii tu na hawezi kamwe kujiita mkazi wa jiji la Nairobi. Ama ni jeiyaz mamorio nguyaz?

JANUARY 10, 2015 ~ LYLAC

pingli-nywee said:

.....more of that hoodslang I can't comrehend. Sheng kiboko yao! Kama kinampita sikioni basi huyu jamaa ni mtalii tu na hawezi kamwe kujiita mkazi wa jiji la Nairobi. Ama ni jeiyaz mamorio nguyaz?

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Wivu unakusumbua dar kiboko ya nai

Lewis254 said:

JANUARY 10, 2015 ~ LYLAC

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Much much more better now

MK254 said:

Kha! huyo haijui Dar vizuri, hivi anajua kuna Watanzania ukiwatuma Dar kikazi wanaona kama adhabu na wanatamani wamalize fasta na kugeuza. Mji wenyewe joto na mifoleni unatamani utelekeze gari barabarani, lakini hata hii Nairobi nataka kuihama, bado nawaza mji wa kuhamia hapa Kenya, uliotulia bila mikimbio ya kila siku.

Dar kama kazi yako haihusu mizunguko ya mjini inakua nafuu, kwanza kama unayo ofisi maeneo ya nje nje kama Tegeta au hata Kigamboni

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Huyo ni mkenya sio mtanzania. Tulia sindano ikuingie

lwiva said:

Wivu unakusumbua dar kiboko ya nai

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Eti Wivu? Naona wivu kwasababu ya Dar, kivipi? Kuna mambo ya kubishana bana, nimefika Dar mara kadhaa, ila sijakuwa na mazoea kiasi cha kuwa na dhana flani kuhusu mji wenu. Joto kama la Mombasa, na yale mandhari ya kawaida kwenye miji iliyo ufukweni, hayo yapo wazi. Nairobi ni mji wa aina nyingine. Hayo kando mji wenyewe tena ni 'mji na nusu'! Naona mzungu mwenyewe ametaja kuhusu Nairobi na 'coolest joints, pubs, discos and strip clubs, pia cool and calm weather and fast paced life'. You get the idea, Nairobi never sleeps. I love Nairobi!

mulisaaa said:

Huyo ni mkenya sio mtanzania. Tulia sindano ikuingie

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Nimejua ni Mkenya kwa uandishi wake, na ndio maana nikasema haijui Dar vizuri huyo. Unajua Wakenya tukija Bongo kikazi huwa hatuna muda wa kuzurura Dar na kuijua ipasavyo, maana unabanwa na kazi halafu kwa sababu hauna wenyeji au hata wanaokufahamu, hivyo aidha unabaki ndani muda mwingi au unakwenda sehemu moja moja, hivyo unaweza ukasifia sifia.
Lakini kuna wale tumefaulu kukatiza maeneo, tumeingia kotekote, kwanza kipindi nilikua napiga konyagi aisei hiyo Dar nilitamba, hamna lolote unaweza ukaniambia kuihusu. Nilikua nafahamika kama rais wa Nairobi, kuna maeneo ninaweza nikakutuma kwa mfano pale Riverside Ubungo ambapo huwa wana burudani za usiku uwaulize MaDJ kama wanamfahamu rais wa Nairobi, lazima wananikumbuka sana.

Japo Dar ina kaunafuu fulani kwa Wakenya haswa kwenye maofisi, hamna kupelekeshwa jinsi huwa tunapelekeshwa huku, Wabongo huwa hawatilii mkazo kwenye mambo ya muda, timelines, milestones, deliverables kwenye miradi, yaani mradi unaweza ukachelewa lakini hawaonyeshi kujali, wapo wapo tu. Jamaa ukijaribu kumpelekesha anakuambia usilete Ukenya huku, tunafanya mambo Kibongobongo, hivyo na mimi nalegeza na kula bata ilmradi maisha yaende.

Hela zenu ndio madafu, mradi wangu wa kwanza jamaa aliniwekea mamilioni mezani kama kishika uchumba (down-payment), aisei nikajiona tajiri sana kwamba nimeingia kwa nchi ya maziwa na asali, niligutuka pale nilipozibadilisha ziwe kwa shilingi ya Kenya, nusra nilie machozi maana zilimezwa zote hata bora ningekaa nazo tu nizione manoti manoti ya Kibongo.

Mtukumbuke na sisi wa tandale kwa mfuga mbwa, Dar uchafu tu Heri nirudi zangu Dodoma

Maisha ya jiji hua yanapurukushani sana, Dar joto na foleni ndio mwiba sina experience na Nai, Ila kama hukai mbali na ofisini kwako basi raha utaipata...

Vyakula vingi vitamu muda wote vyapatikana..starehe zipo mob...Dar tamu sana nikipata likizo nawaza nije Nai one time nadhan kuna baridi flan kama Arusha na nyama choma zakutosha haha

tuusan said:

Maisha ya jiji hua yanapurukushani sana, Dar joto na foleni ndio mwiba sina experience na Nai, Ila kama hukai mbali na ofisini kwako basi raha utaipata...

Vyakula vingi vitamu muda wote vyapatikana..starehe zipo mob...Dar tamu sana nikipata likizo nawaza nije Nai one time nadhan kuna baridi flan kama Arusha na nyama choma zakutosha haha

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Jinsi huwa unacomment kuhusu Kenya, kumbe hujapafika Nai
Anyway welcome, waulize mabwenyenye wenye hela zao Arusha maana wengi huja Nairobi kula bata na kugeuza, kuna kabaridi fulani hivi kama Arusha, lakini sio kama kule Ngorongoro ambako niliganda noma noma kwa baridi.

Anyway hapo umenena nilichokua nakisema kwamba raha ya Dar huwa pale kama kazi yako haihusu mizunguko ya mjini, kwamba ukitoka kwenda kazini ni hatua chache na itakuchukua kama dakika kumi, na pia vile vile wakati wa jioni ukirudi nyumbani.
Lakini kama unategemea kila siku utoke Ngongo la Mboto uje Posta na kugeuza kila jioni ndio utakoma.

MK254 said:

Jinsi huwa unacomment kuhusu Kenya, kumbe hujapafika Nai
Anyway welcome, waulize mabwenyenye wenye hela zao Arusha maana wengi huja Nairobi kula bata na kugeuza, kuna kabaridi fulani hivi kama Arusha, lakini sio kama kule Ngorongoro ambako niliganda noma noma kwa baridi.

Anyway hapo umenena nilichokua nakisema kwamba raha ya Dar huwa pale kama kazi yako haihusu mizunguko ya mjini, kwamba ukitoka kwenda kazini ni hatua chache na itakuchukua kama dakika kumi, na pia vile vile wakati wa jioni ukirudi nyumbani.
Lakini kama unategemea kila siku utoke Ngongo la Mboto uje Posta na kugeuza kila jioni ndio utakoma.

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Haha ni kweli ntajipanga nifike...tuko pamoja

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oh no! this is becoming desperate now....mimi najua kuwa kama kitu ni kizuri hakuna haja ya kushinda kujaribu ku prove...chema chajiuza au? mtafungua nyuzi ngapi wallahi? #third_world_mentality #shithole_mindset

I got tired when some tz guy tried to relate Nyerere to Black Panther😀😀😀😀😀😀mwingine akafungua uzi kufananisha Kenya Defense Forces na JKT, the equivalent of Kenya's NYS..kisha akajaribu kufananisha ukuta wa Kenya/Somali border na ukuta wa kuzuia wezi wa Tanzanite kule msituni....hahahaha...hapo ndipo niliamua kuosha mikono yangu...hawa jamaa wako desperate😀😀😀you dont need to open 20 threads za A versus B to prove anything..the truth is as clear as daylight..you dont need to squint to see it...hehe

I really loved Nairobi of the mid 70s and to mid 80s...I was a child to mid teenager(God I am old!)...We first lived in Upperhill (near Matumbato Rd) then moved to Kileleshwa...I remember it took only 25 minutes from Upperhill to City Centre..I remember Dad taking us to Uhuru Park or sometimes we would hang around the Railway Golf Club while he played..I remember running with my friends, after the ice cream man who came through the estate on Saturday...I had my 1 shilling to buy my favorite pineapple flavored one....I remember green grass and smell of trees...The City functioned from the street lights to drainage,roads were swept and Kanjo guys tended the shrubbery and generally kept things nice and clean...There were garbage collectors who collected trash (from your pipa) every week.This was a free service...Those were the golden good old days...The weather was beautiful..

Fast forward to today...I took my my young adult children to see these places I keep telling them about. That was last year...While the places I grew up are still pretty decent the City itself has lost its glory..I cannot drive in the CBD...The traffic is outrageous...It is a shame because Nairobi was cleaner and more developed than Singapore in late 70s and 80s...Nairobi was like being in Europe(we visited my aunt in UK during the same time and we didn’t see a lot of difference apart from the underground train)

I guess I am just a nostalgic middle aged man...I now see why Western countries have strict rules on building permissions...All is not lost with a good City Planner things can turn around...Maybe if PSVs could be banned from the CBD then that could help.

I miss the old Nairobi....

Pole endelea kujifariji tafuta wakenya walio ishi dar muda mrefu wengi awataki kuludi Kenya niamini

pingli-nywee said:

Eti Wivu? Naona wivu kwasababu ya Dar, kivipi? Kuna mambo ya kubishana bana, nimefika Dar mara kadhaa, ila sijakuwa na mazoea kiasi cha kuwa na dhana flani kuhusu mji wenu. Joto kama la Mombasa, na yale mandhari ya kawaida kwenye miji iliyo ufukweni, hayo yapo wazi. Nairobi ni mji wa aina nyingine. Hayo kando mji wenyewe tena ni 'mji na nusu'! Naona mzungu mwenyewe ametaja kuhusu Nairobi na 'coolest joints, pubs, discos and strip clubs, pia cool and calm weather and fast paced life'. You get the idea, Nairobi never sleeps. I love Nairobi!

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Jay456watt said:

oh no! this is becoming desperate now....mimi najua kuwa kama kitu ni kizuri hakuna haja ya kushinda kujaribu ku prove...chema chajiuza au? mtafungua nyuzi ngapi wallahi? #third_world_mentality #shithole_mindset

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Ombeni tz iwekewe vikwazo vya kiuchumi ndiyo itakuwa salama yenu vinginevyo nai tunaisahau muda si mrefu