American Election 2016: Kicks off in Lowa


Here's the thing about Rubio.

He is a US Senator from Florida - a major swing state in presidential elections.

Chances are, if he becomes the nominee, he will probably win his home state.

He also speaks Spanish.

He can go into those Latino neighborhoods especially in the swing states of Nevada and Colorado and campaign in Spanish - which could be a huge leg up.

Youth is also on his side. I'm sure he'll milk that fact to the hilt.

He'll probably be saying 'don't send the Clintons back to the White House'.

It's still too early, though.

Anything can happen between now and November.

And I agree with you. She needed to win Iowa with a bang.

Now she'll be heading to New Hampshire with a not so impressive win [that is if she ends up winning].

Donald Trump didn't do that well, either.
 

Hillary doesn't scare off Latinos with anti-immigrant rhetoric.

Marco Rubio wants to deport illegal immigrants, even those with kids born in America. He wants to "secure the border" first.

He can't do that without dividing Hispanic families.

27 million Hispanic voters will vote for a safer candidate who will not deport their loved ones or make it harder to sponsor family members.

Hillary supports Obama's stand: Legalize undocumented immigrants as soon as possible and ending family detentions.

Last election, Hispanics gave 70% of their votes to Obama.

The game lies with the swing votes.
 

Okay, maybe you are right.

But let remind you the GOP doesn't need 70% of the Latino vote to win the White House.

They just need G.W. Bush's numbers [44%]. Mitt Romney got about 23%.

I don't think Rubio will do worse than Romney.

And mind you, these candidates do pivot when it comes to the general election because they have to appeal to a much wider electorate.

Moreover, not all Latinos are for illegal immigration.
 
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You all talk like Clinton will easily lose the election to the Republicans if Rubio wins the candidacy simply because he is a minority, you also forget that Rubio candidacy could make many Conservatives stay home come election day especially Trump and Cruz supporters simply because they consider him to be not so conservative enough..Marco Rubio will surely have an uphill task to rally conservatives behind him.
 

You are right that Rubio might not need 70% of their votes but more in the range of mid-40's to take the White House.

However, the Republican candidates scare the shit out of the poor minority voters, be it Latino or Black.

Many struggling Americans want a big government at the moment. They are scared that the Republicans will cut spending on social programs once they get to the White House.

People are still hurting and the economy has not fully recovered. In Hillary, they see safe and compassionate hands.

My money is on her but I hear you though.
 

But, if many Americans really were that scared, then how come the GOP is the majority party in both chambers of Congress?

Congress is actually where the laws are made. The POTUS doesn't make laws. The POTUS can't cut spending all by him or herself.

So if that were really true [scared] then I don't think the GOP would have the majority in Congress because people would not have voted them in in the first place.

Right now there are 31 Republican governors to 18 Democrats and there is one independent. So they even dominate when it comes to state and local politics. How come they do if folks are so scared of them?

See, the electorate is not made up of only minority voters. So Hillary might pander to minority voters but in doing so she could very well be alienating a large chunk of the voting electorate.

She can't win on minority votes alone. That's why I said when one becomes the nominee they pivot to the middle [from being extreme left or right]. In the US you can't govern from either extremes. You govern from the middle.
 

I don't know who is going to win.

And I don't know if conservatives will sit out the election just because Rubio is not conservative enough. You are just conjecturing.

But last I checked G.W. Bush was not a dyed-in-the-wool conservative and he won twice.

Don't you also think the dislike that conservatives have for the Clintons could motivate them to come out in droves?

What about independents? Do you know for certain which way they will break?

I don't know for sure how those critical independents will vote. Maybe you do. Do you?
 
Mhhh bila shaka nizam ya republican
 
Tokyo40 said:
Ni muda muafaka wa kuwa na Raisi wa kwanza wa Kike Marekani baada ya kuwa na Raisi wa kwanza aliyochanganya Mzungu na Mwafrika.

Na kwa uzoefu, hamna anayemfikia.

Hispanics ndiyo watakayembeba.
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Sidhani na marekani kua na rais wa kike bado sana na democrat wakijichanganya imekula kwao
Nina imani na tedy Cruz wa repablican
 
Hillary Clinton narrowly wins Iowa Democratic caucus over Bernie Sanders, 49.8%-49.6%. Seems like the Clinton machine is in trouble again!.
 
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Donald Trump got crushed by a "Canadian"

There's an interesting point you made at Tokyo40 about Rubio with the Latino vote.
As his immigration stance is not appealing to hispanics, candidates pivot..

He started off pretty well in Iowa comparing to where he was before the Caucases, he's almost tied with Trump which I think is a good position for him, for coming primaries.
The GOP electorate is wide, he has an advantage of the youth vote(who went for Sanders in Iowa on Dem's side) he's a minority, and if he easy some of his policies to attract more of the minority vote...he good!

Albeit, so far wanasema T Cruz is in a better position financially than him, and unless the Donald get trumped somewhere along the way...I think Rubio is the one Dems really need to watch for (I could be wrong)
 
Yegomasika said:
Hillary Clinton narrowly wins Iowa Democratic caucus over Bernie Sanders, 49.8%-49.6%. Seems like the Clinton machine is in trouble again!.
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Huu uchaguzi mgumu sana kwake na huyu ni Democratic mwenzake hao Repubs sijui itakuwaje, imagine she started with almost no one seemed to want to compete with her on Democratic side and now this.
 
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worse still and probably ben would win the nominee but its hardly for americans to change their current values,ben sanders cant take the hit .,,,Democrats rare portraits....republicans are hyped and ted cruz is going to win.,,,,basically ted cruz is the next president!
 
eden kimario said:
Sidhani na marekani kua na rais wa kike bado sana na democrat wakijichanganya imekula kwao
Nina imani na tedy Cruz wa repablican
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Walisema pia Marekani ilikuwa bado kuwa na Raisi Mweusi ( at least nusu Mweusi ).

Leo Raisi wao ni Nusu Mwafrika, Nusu Mzungu.

Hillary Iowa kapita na New Hampshire, atapita Feb. 9.

Huyu Mama, anaelekea Nyumba Nyeupe pole pole.

Subiri utaona picha karibu.
 

Halafu...hivi umegundua kwamba field ya Republican candidates mwaka huu iko diverse kushinda ya Dems?

Republican wana 'Canadian', two Hispanics, an African-American, a woman, three outsiders with no political experience, etc.

Democrats wote ni caucasians.....na wote politicians😀.

By the way, tofauti ya kura za Clinton na Sanders ni ndogo mno! Babu kakataa ku concede.
 
kui said:
Huu uchaguzi mgumu sana kwake na huyu ni Democratic mwenzake hao Repubs sijui itakuwaje, imagine she started with almost no one seemed to want to compete with her on Democratic side and now this.
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I really thought the Dems were not even going to have primaries. They were just going to have a convention and on to the election.

After 8 years of Democrats being in the White House, Americans could be ready for a change.

It just seems to work that way.
 


GOP is the majority in both chambers of Congress because of the old trick in the business: redrawing congressional district lines in the state legislatures where the Republicans are in majority.

It has nothing to do with the will of the people. But to be fair, both parties practice it for political advantage to send more representatives to Washington, DC.

So much for "democracy".

It's not just the minority who are feeling the pain. Many middle class voters are forced to take in their grown up kids in their homes. Their kids can't afford to pay for their own place nor repay their college debts.

Hillary is standing for middle class values, job creation and strong financial reform. She wants to legalize undocumented workers and stop deportations which split families. She is standing for an average person, and not for Wall Street crooks.

She can't pivot more to the middle, if you ask me.

The GOP have damaged their brand by trying to cut Social Security, Medicare benefits and attacking women's health and choice issues.

I think the people will remember that come November.
 
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Okay, she should win in a landslide then. One even much bigger than Ronald Reagan's!

But I'm just wondering how in the hell did the Republicans manage to win 31 out of the 50 governorships.

Is that due to the redrawn congressional lines?

And how does that apply to the senate? Because senators are elected statewide as opposed to the house members who are elected only in their congressional districts.

I just don't see how those redrawn lines can help one win a gubernatorial or senate seat because they are voted statewide.

Am I missing something here?

In the last midterm elections [2014] the GOP regained the majority in the senate. Was that due to redrawn congressional lines too?

So the majority of the GOP governors and senators is not the will of the people?

I'm having a hard time understanding that.
 
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