'Who created God' is an Illogical Question!

[Kiranga]

Na Mimi nataka nijue kama ulinielewa au hukunielewa.

Kuhusu nini?

Unataka nitafsiri ndoto uliyoisahau?

 

[Hb wa Ilala]

To debate on a huge topic like this which is metaphysical one needs multiple knowledge where as bigbang and evolution being some of them!

You will be foolish to ignore such facts!!

We are discussing whether there is o there is no God!! For theist we have God as our point of reference ( locus of stand) then to atheists, what is your locus of stand? Let's start from there unless you guys would want to extract the what *you think* are weaknesses to prove the non existence of The Almighty God!

Come on!! Let's go toe by toe! You ask then I answer and when I ask just answer unless you will be a filter jus like other typical atheists!

..for atheists Its science and Facts

 

[Hb wa Ilala]

Mnajua rafiki zangu ndio sababu Biblia inavyoanza haianzi kumtambulisha Mungu, kwa sababu; kuna jamaa yetu humu anapenda kutumia ligic, logic na common sense inakuambia hakuna kilichojitengeneza, "ukiona vyaelea vimeumbwa". Unahitaji elimu kubwa sana sana ili uhoji kama kalamu ninayoitumia (kumbuka kalamu sio key board) ilijitengeneza au kuna mtu aliibuni. sasa jamani kwa akili yetu kubwa 'Great thinkers!) tunashindwa kuona kwamba simple bacteria ni complex kuliko computer na hapo hatujaangalia higher animals. Well unaweza niambia mimi ni mwanasheria hayo mambo yabayolojia nayajulia wapi: basi angalau chagua mfumo mmoja kenye mwili wako hivi kweli kamera itengenezwe na mtu halafu jicho liwe sababu ya big bang. Hapo hapo labda kuna wataalam - wanjimu hapa: matokeo ya big bang ni universe moja ya units zake ni galaxy, leo uniambie chaos (bang, be it big or small) can it result in order what I see in the universe is order and not chaos. Order comes only from an ordered head. Sasa wewe unataka proof gani Yesu akasema kizazi cha zinaa kiahitaji ishara hamtaipata isipokuwa iashara ya Yona: Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

Mungu yuko tayari kujidhihirisha kwa wanyenyekevu ukija kwake kwa kiburi atakutazama tu, hana hasara hata sote tukimkana yeye hawezi kujikana, ndugu wewe ndio unamhitaji Mungu na si vinginevyo, upendo wake kwetu ni upendeleo (favor) na si udhaifu!

..If God is that Complex why does he want us to understand Him kama haeleweki???

 

[Kiranga]

..If God is that Complex why does he want us to understand Him kama haeleweki???

Imani ya kuwepo Mungu ina contradictions nyingi sana.

Contradictions huonesha uongo.

Imani ya kuwepo Mungu ni imani ya uongo.

 

[Hb wa Ilala]

Imani ya kuwepo Mungu ina contradictions nyingi sana.

Contradictions huonesha uongo.

Imani ya kuwepo Mungu ni imani ya uongo.

..after deep pondering nimeanza kuona Hili its Just a phenomenon

 

[Kiranga]

..after deep pondering nimeanza kuona Hili its Just a phenomenonView attachment 422343View attachment 422344View attachment 422345

Hahaha. Contradictions left right and center.

 

[UHURU JR]

Imani ya kuwepo Mungu ina contradictions nyingi sana.

Contradictions huonesha uongo.

Imani ya kuwepo Mungu ni imani ya uongo.

Kipi kinafanya ijulikane imani ya uwongo na ya kweli?

 

[UHURU JR]

Kuhusu nini?

Unataka nitafsiri ndoto uliyoisahau?

Kuhusu nilichokieleza.

 

[Hb wa Ilala]

Kipi kinafanya ijulikane imani ya uwongo na ya kweli?

..uwezo wa Kutoa maJibu Yakinifu na toshelefu yanayokidhi maswali Yanayoulizwa na watu

 

[UHURU JR]

..uwezo wa Kutoa maJibu Yakinifu na toshelefu yanayokidhi maswali Yanayoulizwa na watu

Kwahiyo imani ya kuamini mungu yupo ni ya uwongo kwa kushindwa kutoa majibu yakinifu?

 

[Hb wa Ilala]

Kwahiyo imani ya kuamini mungu yupo ni ya uwongo kwa kushindwa kutoa majibu yakinifu?

..Hakika

 

[UHURU JR]

..Hakika

Mkuu hivi kwanini wapinga mungu wengi wanatokea kwenye imani ya ukristo?

Nimeuliza sana hili swali ila sijibiwi,labda wewe unaweza ukawa na jibu.

 

[Kiranga]

Kipi kinafanya ijulikane imani ya uwongo na ya kweli?

For starters, imani yenye contradiction haiwezi kuwa kweli.

 

[Kiranga]

Kuhusu nilichokieleza.

Ulichokieleza kipi? Umeelez mengi.

 

[UHURU JR]

For starters, imani yenye contradiction haiwezi kuwa kweli.

Kipi kinafanya ijulikane imani sahihi na ya uwongo?

Au hujanielewa?

 

[Kiranga]

Kipi kinafanya ijulikane imani sahihi na ya uwongo?

Au hujanielewa?

Kwa nini unafikiri ni kitu kimoja?

First thing first, ukiona imani ina contradiction ni ya uongo. Umeelewa hilo?

Kama vile kuamini Mungu ambaye anaweza yote, ana ujuzi wote na upendo wote ambaye alikuwa na uwezo wa kuumba ulimwengu ambao mabaya hayawezi kutokea, halafu akaumba ulimwengu ambao mabaya yanaweza kutokea ni kuamini contradiction.

Hivyo ni kuamini uongo.

 

[UHURU JR]

Kwa nini unafikiri ni kitu kimoja?

First thing first, ukiona imani ina contradiction ni ya uongo. Umeelewa hilo?

Kama vile kuamini Mungu ambaye anaweza yote, ana ujuzi wote na upendo wote ambaye alikuwa na uwezo wa kuumba ulimwengu ambao mabaya hayawezi kutokea, halafu akaumba ulimwengu ambao mabaya yanaweza kutokea ni kuamini contradiction.

Hivyo ni kuamini uongo.

Hivi kweli unanielewa kweli?

Ina maana usahihi wa imani yeyote ni kutokuwa na contradiction?

 

[Strictly Syrup]

Life's a struggle,In contrast with other creatures, We are given free will and higher reasoning power so as we can find answers. Through faith and trust answers will uncover themselves.

Mungu ni muweza wa yote. GOD is infinity and ultimate in power and everything.

 

[herikipaji]

Mungu yupo na hutuezi kumuelewa kwa akili na nguvu za kibinadamu za kawaida.
Hivi mnaopinga uwepo wa Mungu mnafikiri kwanini binadamu hawezi kuzuia kifo?
Unavyosafiri kwa mfano kwanini hujui kama utafika salama salimini hii inathibitisha kuwa kuna ziada ya akili za kibinadamu.
Binadamu akili zake zimeishia sehemu Fulani sasa Mungu anaanzia hapo.
MTUMIKIE MUNGU NA UMPENDE KWA AKILI ZAKO NA NGUVU ZAKO ZOTE USITENDE DHAMBI DAIMA UTAEZA KUMSHUHUDIA KATIKA MAISHA YAKO.
WENGI TUNASHINDWA KUMSHUHUDIA MUNGU, KUMJUA SABABU TUMEZAMA KATIKA MAOVU.
MUNGU NI MTAKATIFU HAPATIKANI KATIKA GIZA BALI YU HAI KWENYE MWANGA SISI TUMEZAMA KWENYE GIZA NDIO MANA HATUMUONI.

 

[Kiranga]

Hivi kweli unanielewa kweli?

Ina maana usahihi wa imani yeyote ni kutokuwa na contradiction?

Wapi nimeandika hilo?

Nikuulize wewe.

Unajua kuhesabu?

Unajua Kiswahili?

Umeelewa nilichoandika?