The Lesson Africa can learn from China!
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Fikiraduni,
Umetoa changamoto safi sana. Ndiyo, tufanye nini ili na sisi tuelekee huko walikofikia Wachina? Kwanza tuimarishe elimu. Tuwekeze zaidi kwenye elimu na shule zetu kuliko tunavyofanya sasa. Pili tuimarishe kilimo. Tulete mapinduzi katika kilimo ili wakulima wetu waweze kuondokana na subsistence farming. I do not know how to do it but it is one of the things that needs to be done. Tanzania ina neema ya ardhi yenye rutuba. Nasikia jirani zetu (Wakenya) wanasubiri tu mipango ya Jumuiya ya Afrika mashariki ikamilike wazamie Tanzania. Hatuna sababu ya kununua chakula kutoka nje. Na muhimu zaidi ni industrialization, hasa katika viwanda vya manufacturing. We need to produce even essentials ambazo mpaka leo tunanunua kutoka Kenya. Tanzania is a big market. Na hizi industries zisiwe tu katika miji mikubwa. With good roads mtu anaweza kuweka kiwanda chake popote tu. Kwa hiyo orodha ni ndefu. I am heartened kwamba serikali inashughulikia infrastructure za barabara. With good all weather roads utaona maisha ya Watanzania yakibadilika polepole.
Umetoa changamoto safi sana. Ndiyo, tufanye nini ili na sisi tuelekee huko walikofikia Wachina? Kwanza tuimarishe elimu. Tuwekeze zaidi kwenye elimu na shule zetu kuliko tunavyofanya sasa. Pili tuimarishe kilimo. Tulete mapinduzi katika kilimo ili wakulima wetu waweze kuondokana na subsistence farming. I do not know how to do it but it is one of the things that needs to be done. Tanzania ina neema ya ardhi yenye rutuba. Nasikia jirani zetu (Wakenya) wanasubiri tu mipango ya Jumuiya ya Afrika mashariki ikamilike wazamie Tanzania. Hatuna sababu ya kununua chakula kutoka nje. Na muhimu zaidi ni industrialization, hasa katika viwanda vya manufacturing. We need to produce even essentials ambazo mpaka leo tunanunua kutoka Kenya. Tanzania is a big market. Na hizi industries zisiwe tu katika miji mikubwa. With good roads mtu anaweza kuweka kiwanda chake popote tu. Kwa hiyo orodha ni ndefu. I am heartened kwamba serikali inashughulikia infrastructure za barabara. With good all weather roads utaona maisha ya Watanzania yakibadilika polepole.
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Kyoma,
Sio wewe nakutana sana na Jasusi. Nime ku mention specifically kwasababu sijawahi kusikia jina hilo huko nyuma na kwenye forum nyingine. Kyoma huko siji napita tu ndugu yangu, unataka simu yangu iibiwe?!
Halafu kwanini Ukiwa unatoka Dar kwenda mikoani Upande wa kulia umeendela ki majengo na ki infrastructure kuliko upande wa kushoto? Halafu ni wizara ya kilimo tu ndio ipo wilaya ya Temeke. unajua hilo?
Jasusi, nafahamu unaweza kutusaidia kufanya ka summary baada ya watu kuleta maoni yao hapa, kuna mengine (kuwekeza)hayahitaji barabarampaka iwe nzuri, na uwekezaji uwalenge wazawa, wawezeshwe, nisingependelea aje mwekezaji kutoka nje awekeze milioni 30Tzs eti mwekezaji!!! nataka level hiyo ya uwekezaji iwe kwa wabongo tu. Nico ilifanya kizuri ila namna ya kuwekeza ndio ninatofautiana nao.
Utaanza na mikakati ya Elimu, kuwapeleka nje wapate "kuiba" teknolojia
Utakuja kwenye namna ya kuraise capital na kuwatumia hao wataalamu
Kisha implementation.
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Sio wewe nakutana sana na Jasusi. Nime ku mention specifically kwasababu sijawahi kusikia jina hilo huko nyuma na kwenye forum nyingine. Kyoma huko siji napita tu ndugu yangu, unataka simu yangu iibiwe?!
Halafu kwanini Ukiwa unatoka Dar kwenda mikoani Upande wa kulia umeendela ki majengo na ki infrastructure kuliko upande wa kushoto? Halafu ni wizara ya kilimo tu ndio ipo wilaya ya Temeke. unajua hilo?Jasusi, nafahamu unaweza kutusaidia kufanya ka summary baada ya watu kuleta maoni yao hapa, kuna mengine (kuwekeza)hayahitaji barabarampaka iwe nzuri, na uwekezaji uwalenge wazawa, wawezeshwe, nisingependelea aje mwekezaji kutoka nje awekeze milioni 30Tzs eti mwekezaji!!! nataka level hiyo ya uwekezaji iwe kwa wabongo tu. Nico ilifanya kizuri ila namna ya kuwekeza ndio ninatofautiana nao.
Utaanza na mikakati ya Elimu, kuwapeleka nje wapate "kuiba" teknolojia
Utakuja kwenye namna ya kuraise capital na kuwatumia hao wataalamu
Kisha implementation.
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Fkiraduni,
Mshikaji vipi hapa, mbona wajibu kabla ya maswali yenyewe?...
Unajua ni kweli kila kona dunia nzima Kusini (South) iwe ya mji ama taifa ni sehemu ambayo iko nyuma kwa kila kitu. Sababu haijulikani na ndoo maana watu husema kumenikalia kushoto. Ukitoka Dar kwenda mikoani kushoto kwako ni south na ndio balaa zote ziko huko! Marekani miji yote usije tokea ukaishi south ya mji! hatari tupu.
Kuhusu swala la China ndugu yangu, mimi na wewe hatuwezi kubadilisha kitu kwa sababu BWM aliisha peleka watu China kuangalia jinsi jamaa hao walivyofanikisha na report kamili ilifikishwa kwake. Hiyo report inamhukumu yeye na sio kumsaidia kama ilivyokuwa report ya Warioba. Ziara ile imebaki historia kwa sababu alizosema Mzee ES.... wazee waliotakiwa kusimama na kuhakikisha sera mbovu hazipiti wamelala wenyewe usingizini na wamefungwa kamba za shingo utadhani mbuzi malishoni.
Hakuna kitu cha ajabu kabisa kwa China kufanikiwa na kama sisi tungeweza kutumia mirathi yetu - kwa kuanzia tu tungekuwa mbali kidogo. Mikoa ya Pamba yote ilikuwa na viwanda vya nguo lakini ilikosa mali ghafi, uzalishaji wa pamba ulipungua sana kwa sababu Tanzania tulitegemea soko la nje kuuza pamba yetu. Tazama basi ktk soko la nguo China, Afrika imeshika nambari mbili ktk waagizaji wake wakubwa na sasa hivi China imeshika namba moja kwa uzalishaji wa pamba (mali ghafi) ikifuatiwa na Marekani na India. Afrika tumetupwa nje kabisa kwa sababu pamba yetu pamoja na kuwa madhubuti na msemo wa kihuni Original lakini hakuna uhakika wa supply... mwaka hadi mwaka,pamba yenyewe adimu kupatikana kwani wakulima wetu maskini sana. Leo hii asilimia kubwa ya mashamba ya pamba miaka ya 70 ni mashamba ya mazao ya chakula. Wakulima can't afford life kusubiri mavuno ya mwaka mzima kupata malipo ya kazi ngumu. Na hadithi hii ipo ktk kila zao la kuuza...China walikuwa ktk position kama yetu na wameweza ku-reverse kutokana na kuwepo na UWAZI ndani ya chama tawala, wataalam na wanafunzi wa vyuo vikuu, Leo hii wananchi wake wana-enjoy matokeo.
Kwa hiyo hakuna njia ndugu nadhani ushauri mzuri kwetu sisi ni kuendelea kobomoa haya maswala na kuyaweka wazi. Uamuzi upo mikononi mwa hao vingunge aliowataja Mzee ES. Hawa ndio wazee wanaotakiwa kusema enough is enough... huu upuuzi wa kuuza mirathi umefikia mwisho wake.. NO MORE!
Mshikaji vipi hapa, mbona wajibu kabla ya maswali yenyewe?...
Unajua ni kweli kila kona dunia nzima Kusini (South) iwe ya mji ama taifa ni sehemu ambayo iko nyuma kwa kila kitu. Sababu haijulikani na ndoo maana watu husema kumenikalia kushoto. Ukitoka Dar kwenda mikoani kushoto kwako ni south na ndio balaa zote ziko huko! Marekani miji yote usije tokea ukaishi south ya mji! hatari tupu.
Kuhusu swala la China ndugu yangu, mimi na wewe hatuwezi kubadilisha kitu kwa sababu BWM aliisha peleka watu China kuangalia jinsi jamaa hao walivyofanikisha na report kamili ilifikishwa kwake. Hiyo report inamhukumu yeye na sio kumsaidia kama ilivyokuwa report ya Warioba. Ziara ile imebaki historia kwa sababu alizosema Mzee ES.... wazee waliotakiwa kusimama na kuhakikisha sera mbovu hazipiti wamelala wenyewe usingizini na wamefungwa kamba za shingo utadhani mbuzi malishoni.
Hakuna kitu cha ajabu kabisa kwa China kufanikiwa na kama sisi tungeweza kutumia mirathi yetu - kwa kuanzia tu tungekuwa mbali kidogo. Mikoa ya Pamba yote ilikuwa na viwanda vya nguo lakini ilikosa mali ghafi, uzalishaji wa pamba ulipungua sana kwa sababu Tanzania tulitegemea soko la nje kuuza pamba yetu. Tazama basi ktk soko la nguo China, Afrika imeshika nambari mbili ktk waagizaji wake wakubwa na sasa hivi China imeshika namba moja kwa uzalishaji wa pamba (mali ghafi) ikifuatiwa na Marekani na India. Afrika tumetupwa nje kabisa kwa sababu pamba yetu pamoja na kuwa madhubuti na msemo wa kihuni Original lakini hakuna uhakika wa supply... mwaka hadi mwaka,pamba yenyewe adimu kupatikana kwani wakulima wetu maskini sana. Leo hii asilimia kubwa ya mashamba ya pamba miaka ya 70 ni mashamba ya mazao ya chakula. Wakulima can't afford life kusubiri mavuno ya mwaka mzima kupata malipo ya kazi ngumu. Na hadithi hii ipo ktk kila zao la kuuza...China walikuwa ktk position kama yetu na wameweza ku-reverse kutokana na kuwepo na UWAZI ndani ya chama tawala, wataalam na wanafunzi wa vyuo vikuu, Leo hii wananchi wake wana-enjoy matokeo.
Kwa hiyo hakuna njia ndugu nadhani ushauri mzuri kwetu sisi ni kuendelea kobomoa haya maswala na kuyaweka wazi. Uamuzi upo mikononi mwa hao vingunge aliowataja Mzee ES. Hawa ndio wazee wanaotakiwa kusema enough is enough... huu upuuzi wa kuuza mirathi umefikia mwisho wake.. NO MORE!
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Mkandara said:
Hahaha! Mzee Mkandara hio theory yako hapo juu kali sana
. Umenifurahisha! Hio phenomenon ya laana ya kusini ni mpya aisee.Kusini mwa sehemu ni always relative to the observers point of reference. Kusini yako inaweza ikawa kaskazini ya mwingine, hivyo basi theory yako inabidi iweke bayana hio kusini ambayo haiendelei katika miji ama taifa ni kusini ya wapi? Kusini ya Russia, South Africa,Australia zimeendela kuliko kaskazini! Kusini ya Kenya imeendelea kuliko kaskazini!
Anyways labda hukua serious!
Tukirudi kwenye mada yetu, mimi sioni haja ya kutuma vijana "wakaibe" teknolojia nje kwani tayari tunao mamia ya vijana wakitanzania wako nje tayari. Kitu cha kufanya ni ku angalia sehemu nyeti na muhimu tunazowahitaji na kuwa target hawa jamaa warudi nyumbani.
Kwa mfano, kama tunahitaji mtaalam wa uchunguzi wa madawa, kuna vijana waki bongo wako Glaxo SmithKline na makampuni mengine ngangari ya madawa. tunawafwata hawa na kuwahonga warudi nyumbani tukiwahakikishia kipato kizuri e.t.c.
Unajua sasa hivi nchi kama Australia kijana wa kutoka nje aliemaliza degree ya udaktari au nurse anafatwa personally na watu wa huku, na wanam offer salary na benefits za kumfanya mtu abaki! Wanhitaji sana wauguzi! Kabla ya kuhitimu kuna ma workshop kibao na watu kibao wanakuja kuongea na graduates, ila ni wale wanowahitaji tu!
Unajua health system za UK, Australia e.t.c. ziko hatarini ku collapse endapo 3rd world nurses and doctors wataamua kurudi kwao!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4556255.stm
http://www.bnp.org.uk/articles/foreign_nurses.htm
http://globalhealthtrust.org/doc/abstracts/WG4/DovloMartineauFINAL.pdf
Lakini kama Mkandara alivyosema jamaa huko juu wamelala ni ni hovyo kabisa!
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Mzee Mkandara,
Akhsante, nimekubaliana na wewe.
Nyamgluu, Ndio maana nikasema "kuiba", haikuwa na direct definition ya neno kuiba.
Halafu mbona watu kitu kikiwa kimekaa vibaya wanasema kimekaa kushoto?, Mkandara yupo right.
Mengine yote tupo pamoja.
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Akhsante, nimekubaliana na wewe.
Nyamgluu, Ndio maana nikasema "kuiba", haikuwa na direct definition ya neno kuiba.
Halafu mbona watu kitu kikiwa kimekaa vibaya wanasema kimekaa kushoto?, Mkandara yupo right.
Mengine yote tupo pamoja.
FD
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Mzee Bob,
Ukweli uko hapo kwenye viongozi wa juu, tunacho kila kitu waChina walichonacho, maneno yote ya Uchina yako kwenye kamati kuu ya chama chao bro! Mwenyekiti hatoi uamuzi wa mwisho bila ya kushauriana na wenziwe, line of succession kwa viongozi wao ni very clear siku zote akitoka nani ataingia nani, na hao wote waliopangwa kwenye line ni viongozi walipimwa na kuchujwa kwa uangalifu mkubwa kwa kuzingatia uwezo na elimu, matokeo yake ni kuwa hakuna mwanya wa kiongozi mmoja kutumia ujanja ili apande, au kuchukua madaraka bila ya kupitia system kichama na kisheria,
halafu wana kamati yao moja inaitwa ya maadili, hao ndio hawana mchezo kabisa jina lako haliwezi kwenda kamati kuu bila ya kupitia hawa na hawa tabia ni ile ile ukweli tu, US mwenyewe ameinua mikono kwa hawa waChina amejaribu kila njia kuwarubuni baadhi yao, lakini wapi wazee wao hawahongeki bro, waliwaambia waUS kuwa watatoa maamuzi yenye manufaa kwa waChina tu, US wakae pembeni na wasubiri kufanya nao biashara tu! kama hawataki waondoke, the next thing waChina wanaenda kununua boeing 100 kule Sieattle, US kwa kutumia CASH!
WaTanzania tunaweza hii jeuri as long as tuko radhi ku-sacrifice mambo yasiyokuwa ya muhimu kwa maisha yetu kama ya harusi za ajabu na mzishi ya ajabu bongo siku hizi, na ndivyo waChina walivyofanya wakatukanwa na West wee! Leo who has the last lough! Tumefikia mahali hata mtoto mdogo kupata kipa imara tu watu lazima wale wanywe kama vile ni mwisho wa dunia unakuja! Ni kujinyima na kuwa na trusted viongozi maana hapa bongo watu wanaweza kujinyima lakini wajuu wakawachezea, yaani inarudi pale pale kwenye uongozi mbovu!
Ukweli uko hapo kwenye viongozi wa juu, tunacho kila kitu waChina walichonacho, maneno yote ya Uchina yako kwenye kamati kuu ya chama chao bro! Mwenyekiti hatoi uamuzi wa mwisho bila ya kushauriana na wenziwe, line of succession kwa viongozi wao ni very clear siku zote akitoka nani ataingia nani, na hao wote waliopangwa kwenye line ni viongozi walipimwa na kuchujwa kwa uangalifu mkubwa kwa kuzingatia uwezo na elimu, matokeo yake ni kuwa hakuna mwanya wa kiongozi mmoja kutumia ujanja ili apande, au kuchukua madaraka bila ya kupitia system kichama na kisheria,
halafu wana kamati yao moja inaitwa ya maadili, hao ndio hawana mchezo kabisa jina lako haliwezi kwenda kamati kuu bila ya kupitia hawa na hawa tabia ni ile ile ukweli tu, US mwenyewe ameinua mikono kwa hawa waChina amejaribu kila njia kuwarubuni baadhi yao, lakini wapi wazee wao hawahongeki bro, waliwaambia waUS kuwa watatoa maamuzi yenye manufaa kwa waChina tu, US wakae pembeni na wasubiri kufanya nao biashara tu! kama hawataki waondoke, the next thing waChina wanaenda kununua boeing 100 kule Sieattle, US kwa kutumia CASH!
WaTanzania tunaweza hii jeuri as long as tuko radhi ku-sacrifice mambo yasiyokuwa ya muhimu kwa maisha yetu kama ya harusi za ajabu na mzishi ya ajabu bongo siku hizi, na ndivyo waChina walivyofanya wakatukanwa na West wee! Leo who has the last lough! Tumefikia mahali hata mtoto mdogo kupata kipa imara tu watu lazima wale wanywe kama vile ni mwisho wa dunia unakuja! Ni kujinyima na kuwa na trusted viongozi maana hapa bongo watu wanaweza kujinyima lakini wajuu wakawachezea, yaani inarudi pale pale kwenye uongozi mbovu!
Hii shikaji imefunga kazi hakuna tena majadiliano....
Unajua hizo patry ni dalili ya kukata tamaa kimaisha kama sinema ya Bi. mkubwa Queen Latifah. Ponda mali kifo chaja na watu wanapeta kisawa sawa. Hizo hadithi nazosikia Bongo mshikaji hata kwenda kutembea najiuliza mara kumi kumi maanake wengine tumeondoka na jina. Kurudi na raba pair mbili aibu tupu..
Mzee Es, umesema inawezekana, tuki -sacrifice. Labda mwenzatu una kiji-idea hapa maanake mwenzio hapa sione nje kabisa.... kizaa. Hivi kweli wananchi WABONGO wanaweza kusimama kama wanafunzi wa China walivyofanya mbele ya vifaru na mitutu ya bunduki?...Is this the right time ama JK anaweza kuwa na mabadiliko? nasikia ameanza kupitia mikataba ya madini na ulimsikia Free alivyosema kuhusu TanzaniteOne.
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Is it Ujamaa na Kujitegemea or Uzalendo? can the two be combined? on question of capitalism, does it mean that capitalism lacks patriotism?
That is the dillema facing Africa and Third World on chosing economic ideology and foundation for their own countries.
If we use Patriotism to equate success and stable growth of our countries, then capitalism can never win even though socialism has many flaws, but stands higher morally, hence strong element of patriotism with the likes of Nyerere, Nkrumah, Lumumba, Chaves and Castro!
That is the dillema facing Africa and Third World on chosing economic ideology and foundation for their own countries.
If we use Patriotism to equate success and stable growth of our countries, then capitalism can never win even though socialism has many flaws, but stands higher morally, hence strong element of patriotism with the likes of Nyerere, Nkrumah, Lumumba, Chaves and Castro!
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Je vyama vingi ni muhimu kwa kujenga Taifa la kisasa na lenye mafanikio ya kiuchumi?
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Natumaini swali hili litajibiwa na wadau punde. The topic is back!
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William J. Malecela
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Huko u-China, kamati kuu ya chama ndio yenye power ya kuongoza, ina wajumbe 22, rais wa nchi ni katibu tu wa chama hicho kinachotawala kuna mwenyekiti ambaye ni powerfull pia anweza hata kumuondoa rais kwenye chama,
Kamati hiyo hukutana kila mwezi mara moja as a mandatory, wanapokutana tqo top academics are ushered in to brief the committee on trends in ernegy supply, patterns of urbanization or intellectual-property rights, usually the discussions can last until the evening, sasa the thought of the entire kamati kuu sitting down the whole day, kusikiliza academics kwa msaaa na kuyafanyia kazi yaliyosemwa, it is amazing.
Hiii ni sehemu tu ya how China, inavyoongozwa sasa na hata kuweza kuwa one of the powers wa uchumi duniani, ukweli ni kwamba hatuhitaji vyama vingi vya siasa ili kuendelea, na huu wa China ni mfano tosha on the ishu, tunachohitaji ni wananchi committed kwa maendeleo na pia viongozi walio-serious, na ni muhimu kuwa na heshima kwa The Rule of Law, huko China kiongozi akikamatwa kuwa ni mwizi, hupigwa risasi hadharani, hapa Tanzania kama alikuwa waziri wa Nishati, huhamishwa na kuwa waziri wa jumuiya ya Afrika mashariki!
Mungu Aibariki Bongo!
Kamati hiyo hukutana kila mwezi mara moja as a mandatory, wanapokutana tqo top academics are ushered in to brief the committee on trends in ernegy supply, patterns of urbanization or intellectual-property rights, usually the discussions can last until the evening, sasa the thought of the entire kamati kuu sitting down the whole day, kusikiliza academics kwa msaaa na kuyafanyia kazi yaliyosemwa, it is amazing.
Hiii ni sehemu tu ya how China, inavyoongozwa sasa na hata kuweza kuwa one of the powers wa uchumi duniani, ukweli ni kwamba hatuhitaji vyama vingi vya siasa ili kuendelea, na huu wa China ni mfano tosha on the ishu, tunachohitaji ni wananchi committed kwa maendeleo na pia viongozi walio-serious, na ni muhimu kuwa na heshima kwa The Rule of Law, huko China kiongozi akikamatwa kuwa ni mwizi, hupigwa risasi hadharani, hapa Tanzania kama alikuwa waziri wa Nishati, huhamishwa na kuwa waziri wa jumuiya ya Afrika mashariki!
Mungu Aibariki Bongo!
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China communists 'falling short'
By Michael Bristow
BBC News, Beijing
Chinese President Hu Jintao has said in a keynote speech that the Communist Party he leads has fallen short of the people's expectations.
Speaking at the start of the party's 17th congress, he also lashed out at officials who were extravagant, wasteful and corrupt.
President Hu's criticism came as he assessed the party's recent performance in front of senior leaders.
The week-long gathering is held every five years to decide future policies.
"While recognising our achievements, we must be well aware that they still fall short of the expectations of the people," said President Hu.
Some of the problems faced by ordinary people relate to employment, housing, social security and education, he said.
He was particularly critical of party leaders who used their position to provide for themselves, a theme President Hu has often spoken about.
[We] will never allow anyone to separate Taiwan from the motherland in any name or by any means
Hu Jintao
"A small number of party cadres are not honest and upright," he told more than 2,200 delegates.
"[Their] extravagance, waste, corruption and other undesirable behaviour are still serious problems with them," he said.
The congress officially started when the country's top leaders filed out on to the podium in Beijing's Great Hall of the People, which was bedecked in red flags.
In an indication of how much sway former President Jiang Zemin still holds, he emerged immediately after President Hu and sat next to him on the podium.
Next to appear were the members of the current politburo standing committee, the inner sanctum of Chinese power.
Some of these men will be staying on with Hu Jintao for the next five years, while others will be retiring.
Mr Hu may use this congress to nominate a possible successor to take over from him in 2012 - and everybody's eyes are currently focused on Li Keqiang, a regional party chief in his early fifties who was in the fourth row of the line-up on the podium.
A military band then played the national anthem before party leaders bowed their heads to remember the party's founding fathers.
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This congress is a major event preceding the Beijing Olympics. It will be an opportunity to showcase China's progress
Arun Mehta, Mumbai, India
To polite applause and with a hammer and sickle symbol behind him, President Hu then began his speech.
As well as criticising the party's performance over the previous few years, he also laid out its future plans.
One of the main goals is to build a "moderately prosperous society" by 2020.
Short on specifics
Later on Mr Hu defined that task as quadrupling the country's year 2000 per capita gross domestic product by 2020.
Mr Hu also had a warning for Taiwan, a self-governing island that Beijing considers part of China. The two sides split in 1949.
MAJOR THEMES OF THE CONGRESS
Promoting 'social harmony'
'Scientific development'
Building a 'well-off society'
Consolidation of President Hu's position
He said the forces of "Taiwan independence" were stepping up their efforts to separate the island from China.
"[We] will never allow anyone to separate Taiwan from the motherland in any name or by any means," he warned.
Mr Hu's speech was typical of those delivered by senior Chinese officials at these well-orchestrated gatherings.
It was laced with well-worn official phrases such as "socialism with Chinese characteristics".
It was long, but short on specifics.
For example, Mr Hu promised to "expand socialist democracy" but did not explain exactly what that meant.
On Sunday, Li Dongsheng, the spokesman for the 17th congress, said China would never adopt Western-style democracy.
But one thing appears clear. President Hu has cemented his position at the top of the party hierarchy.
His personal contribution to party theory - scientific development - was placed on a par with contributions from other top leaders.
In the speech it ranked alongside Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory and ex-President Jiang's Three Represents.
Little is known about Hu Jintao beyond the brief, official biography.
But in his closing remarks, he perhaps revealed something of the man he hopes the public see him as. "We must guard against arrogance and rashness, preserve plain living and struggle hard," he said.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/7044418.stm
Published: 2007/10/15 05:16:45 GMT
© BBC MMVII
By Michael Bristow
BBC News, Beijing
Chinese President Hu Jintao has said in a keynote speech that the Communist Party he leads has fallen short of the people's expectations.
Speaking at the start of the party's 17th congress, he also lashed out at officials who were extravagant, wasteful and corrupt.
President Hu's criticism came as he assessed the party's recent performance in front of senior leaders.
The week-long gathering is held every five years to decide future policies.
"While recognising our achievements, we must be well aware that they still fall short of the expectations of the people," said President Hu.
Some of the problems faced by ordinary people relate to employment, housing, social security and education, he said.
He was particularly critical of party leaders who used their position to provide for themselves, a theme President Hu has often spoken about.
[We] will never allow anyone to separate Taiwan from the motherland in any name or by any means
Hu Jintao
"A small number of party cadres are not honest and upright," he told more than 2,200 delegates.
"[Their] extravagance, waste, corruption and other undesirable behaviour are still serious problems with them," he said.
The congress officially started when the country's top leaders filed out on to the podium in Beijing's Great Hall of the People, which was bedecked in red flags.
In an indication of how much sway former President Jiang Zemin still holds, he emerged immediately after President Hu and sat next to him on the podium.
Next to appear were the members of the current politburo standing committee, the inner sanctum of Chinese power.
Some of these men will be staying on with Hu Jintao for the next five years, while others will be retiring.
Mr Hu may use this congress to nominate a possible successor to take over from him in 2012 - and everybody's eyes are currently focused on Li Keqiang, a regional party chief in his early fifties who was in the fourth row of the line-up on the podium.
A military band then played the national anthem before party leaders bowed their heads to remember the party's founding fathers.
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To polite applause and with a hammer and sickle symbol behind him, President Hu then began his speech.
As well as criticising the party's performance over the previous few years, he also laid out its future plans.
One of the main goals is to build a "moderately prosperous society" by 2020.
Short on specifics
Later on Mr Hu defined that task as quadrupling the country's year 2000 per capita gross domestic product by 2020.
Mr Hu also had a warning for Taiwan, a self-governing island that Beijing considers part of China. The two sides split in 1949.
MAJOR THEMES OF THE CONGRESS
Promoting 'social harmony'
'Scientific development'
Building a 'well-off society'
Consolidation of President Hu's position
He said the forces of "Taiwan independence" were stepping up their efforts to separate the island from China.
"[We] will never allow anyone to separate Taiwan from the motherland in any name or by any means," he warned.
Mr Hu's speech was typical of those delivered by senior Chinese officials at these well-orchestrated gatherings.
It was laced with well-worn official phrases such as "socialism with Chinese characteristics".
It was long, but short on specifics.
For example, Mr Hu promised to "expand socialist democracy" but did not explain exactly what that meant.
On Sunday, Li Dongsheng, the spokesman for the 17th congress, said China would never adopt Western-style democracy.
But one thing appears clear. President Hu has cemented his position at the top of the party hierarchy.
His personal contribution to party theory - scientific development - was placed on a par with contributions from other top leaders.
In the speech it ranked alongside Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory and ex-President Jiang's Three Represents.
Little is known about Hu Jintao beyond the brief, official biography.
But in his closing remarks, he perhaps revealed something of the man he hopes the public see him as. "We must guard against arrogance and rashness, preserve plain living and struggle hard," he said.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/7044418.stm
Published: 2007/10/15 05:16:45 GMT
© BBC MMVII
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China communists 'falling short'
By Michael Bristow
BBC News, Beijing
Chinese President Hu Jintao has said in a keynote speech that the Communist Party he leads has fallen short of the people's expectations.
Speaking at the start of the party's 17th congress, he also lashed out at officials who were extravagant, wasteful and corrupt.
President Hu's criticism came as he assessed the party's recent performance in front of senior leaders.
The week-long gathering is held every five years to decide future policies.
"While recognising our achievements, we must be well aware that they still fall short of the expectations of the people," said President Hu.
Some of the problems faced by ordinary people relate to employment, housing, social security and education, he said.
He was particularly critical of party leaders who used their position to provide for themselves, a theme President Hu has often spoken about.
"A small number of party cadres are not honest and upright," he told more than 2,200 delegates.
"[Their] extravagance, waste, corruption and other undesirable behaviour are still serious problems with them," he said.
The congress officially started when the country's top leaders filed out on to the podium in Beijing's Great Hall of the People, which was bedecked in red flags.
In an indication of how much sway former President Jiang Zemin still holds, he emerged immediately after President Hu and sat next to him on the podium.
Next to appear were the members of the current politburo standing committee, the inner sanctum of Chinese power.
Some of these men will be staying on with Hu Jintao for the next five years, while others will be retiring.
Mr Hu may use this congress to nominate a possible successor to take over from him in 2012 - and everybody's eyes are currently focused on Li Keqiang, a regional party chief in his early fifties who was in the fourth row of the line-up on the podium.
A military band then played the national anthem before party leaders bowed their heads to remember the party's founding fathers.
To polite applause and with a hammer and sickle symbol behind him, President Hu then began his speech.
As well as criticising the party's performance over the previous few years, he also laid out its future plans.
One of the main goals is to build a "moderately prosperous society" by 2020.
Short on specifics
Later on Mr Hu defined that task as quadrupling the country's year 2000 per capita gross domestic product by 2020.
Mr Hu also had a warning for Taiwan, a self-governing island that Beijing considers part of China. The two sides split in 1949.
MAJOR THEMES OF THE CONGRESS
Promoting 'social harmony'
'Scientific development'
Building a 'well-off society'
Consolidation of President Hu's position
He said the forces of "Taiwan independence" were stepping up their efforts to separate the island from China.
"[We] will never allow anyone to separate Taiwan from the motherland in any name or by any means," he warned.
Mr Hu's speech was typical of those delivered by senior Chinese officials at these well-orchestrated gatherings.
It was laced with well-worn official phrases such as "socialism with Chinese characteristics".
It was long, but short on specifics.
For example, Mr Hu promised to "expand socialist democracy" but did not explain exactly what that meant.
On Sunday, Li Dongsheng, the spokesman for the 17th congress, said China would never adopt Western-style democracy.
But one thing appears clear. President Hu has cemented his position at the top of the party hierarchy.
His personal contribution to party theory - scientific development - was placed on a par with contributions from other top leaders.
In the speech it ranked alongside Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory and ex-
President Jiang's Three Represents.
Little is known about Hu Jintao beyond the brief, official biography.
But in his closing remarks, he perhaps revealed something of the man he hopes the public see him as. "We must guard against arrogance and rashness, preserve plain living and struggle hard," he said.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/7044418.stm
Published: 2007/10/15 05:16:45 GMT
© BBC MMVII
By Michael Bristow
BBC News, Beijing
Chinese President Hu Jintao has said in a keynote speech that the Communist Party he leads has fallen short of the people's expectations.
Speaking at the start of the party's 17th congress, he also lashed out at officials who were extravagant, wasteful and corrupt.
President Hu's criticism came as he assessed the party's recent performance in front of senior leaders.
The week-long gathering is held every five years to decide future policies.
"While recognising our achievements, we must be well aware that they still fall short of the expectations of the people," said President Hu.
Some of the problems faced by ordinary people relate to employment, housing, social security and education, he said.
He was particularly critical of party leaders who used their position to provide for themselves, a theme President Hu has often spoken about.
"A small number of party cadres are not honest and upright," he told more than 2,200 delegates.
"[Their] extravagance, waste, corruption and other undesirable behaviour are still serious problems with them," he said.
The congress officially started when the country's top leaders filed out on to the podium in Beijing's Great Hall of the People, which was bedecked in red flags.
In an indication of how much sway former President Jiang Zemin still holds, he emerged immediately after President Hu and sat next to him on the podium.
Next to appear were the members of the current politburo standing committee, the inner sanctum of Chinese power.
Some of these men will be staying on with Hu Jintao for the next five years, while others will be retiring.
Mr Hu may use this congress to nominate a possible successor to take over from him in 2012 - and everybody's eyes are currently focused on Li Keqiang, a regional party chief in his early fifties who was in the fourth row of the line-up on the podium.
A military band then played the national anthem before party leaders bowed their heads to remember the party's founding fathers.
To polite applause and with a hammer and sickle symbol behind him, President Hu then began his speech.
As well as criticising the party's performance over the previous few years, he also laid out its future plans.
One of the main goals is to build a "moderately prosperous society" by 2020.
Short on specifics
Later on Mr Hu defined that task as quadrupling the country's year 2000 per capita gross domestic product by 2020.
Mr Hu also had a warning for Taiwan, a self-governing island that Beijing considers part of China. The two sides split in 1949.
MAJOR THEMES OF THE CONGRESS
Promoting 'social harmony'
'Scientific development'
Building a 'well-off society'
Consolidation of President Hu's position
He said the forces of "Taiwan independence" were stepping up their efforts to separate the island from China.
"[We] will never allow anyone to separate Taiwan from the motherland in any name or by any means," he warned.
Mr Hu's speech was typical of those delivered by senior Chinese officials at these well-orchestrated gatherings.
It was laced with well-worn official phrases such as "socialism with Chinese characteristics".
It was long, but short on specifics.
For example, Mr Hu promised to "expand socialist democracy" but did not explain exactly what that meant.
On Sunday, Li Dongsheng, the spokesman for the 17th congress, said China would never adopt Western-style democracy.
But one thing appears clear. President Hu has cemented his position at the top of the party hierarchy.
His personal contribution to party theory - scientific development - was placed on a par with contributions from other top leaders.
In the speech it ranked alongside Mao Zedong Thought, Deng Xiaoping Theory and ex-
President Jiang's Three Represents.
Little is known about Hu Jintao beyond the brief, official biography.
But in his closing remarks, he perhaps revealed something of the man he hopes the public see him as. "We must guard against arrogance and rashness, preserve plain living and struggle hard," he said.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/7044418.stm
Published: 2007/10/15 05:16:45 GMT
© BBC MMVII
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China rules out copying Western democracy
NEW: President Hu Jintao promises the strengthening of one-party rule
The congress is a crucial test of strength for Hu after five years in power, especially his ability to maneuver allies -- possibly including a designated successor -- into key positions and assert the primacy of his vision of more balanced development.
"In deepening political restructuring, we must keep to the correct political orientation," Hu said in a speech opening the party's 17th congress.
Hu, who is expected to remain in power for another five years, said government advisory bodies, which include non-party members, should be given a greater role in decision making. He also supported holding more public hearings before laws and regulations are formulated.
He said the party had to pay more attention to taking a scientific outlook on development, a catchphrase for redistributing growth more equally and making more efficient use of energy.
"A relatively comfortable standard of living has been achieved for the people as a whole but the trend of a growing gap in incomes distribution has not been thoroughly reversed," Hu said. "There are still a considerable number of impoverished and low-income people in both urban and rural areas, and it has become more difficult to accommodate the interests of all sides."
On Sunday, congress spokesman Li Dongsheng said senior party members would put forth a blueprint for reforming political institutions, but the steps aimed to strengthen one-party rule and will not copy Western democratic models.
Li told reporters the party has studied and drawn from other country's political systems, along with its own experiences. "But, we will never copy the Western model of a political system," he added.
Li gave few specifics and declined to answer questions about expected retirements and promotions in the party's ruling Politburo, highlighting the secretive party's extreme sensitivity over personnel issues.
He said reforms would also aim to strengthen the legal system and decision-making, increase the government's responsiveness and "enhance supervision and restraint over the exercise of power." He was referring to Communist Party control over individual leaders, not an attempt to limit the party's unrivaled hold on power.
Li did not elaborate, but the congress is expected to address the case of former Politburo member and Shanghai party boss Chen Liangyu, who became the highest-ranking party member to fall in a decade when he was toppled amid a probe into wide-ranging corruption.
Although Hu's leadership has never been threatened, he is largely seen as weaker than past leaders, forcing him to compromise on some top appointments and other decisions. In a sign of possible constraints, Hu's retired predecessor, Jiang Zemin, was appointed to the committee handling the congress' arrangements, state media said Sunday.
Broadcast live on national television, Hu's opening speech was his highest-profile political address since taking power five years ago at the last party congress.
It was heavy with Communist rhetoric, with numerous references to holding "high the great banner of socialism with Chinese characteristics."
Hu largely reiterated goals of making China reasonably prosperous by 2020.
He said the country would pursue a peaceful path internationally. He warned Taiwan against further secessionist activities, but emphasized China's desire for peaceful reunification.
Security was heavy in Beijing with police removing a group of older people who appeared to be carrying petitions from the crowds gathered near the Hall on the side of Tiananmen Square.
The congress' more-than 2,200 delegates will elect a new party Central Committee. That body in turn will approve a smaller Politburo and the all-powerful Politburo Standing Committee, the apex of power in China.
Deliberations over the lineup have been going on for months and will take place this week behind closed doors. Its makeup is officially announced after the congress ends.
Hu is expected to also push for the elevation of protege Li Keqiang onto the Politburo Standing Committee, while Xi Jinping, the party boss of Shanghai and the son of a revolutionary veteran, is also expected to get a seat.
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NEW: President Hu Jintao promises the strengthening of one-party rule
- China's Communist Party opens their five-yearly Congress in Beijing
- Party's elite will put forth a blueprint for reforming political institutions
- China will not copy Western democratic models, a spokesman said
The congress is a crucial test of strength for Hu after five years in power, especially his ability to maneuver allies -- possibly including a designated successor -- into key positions and assert the primacy of his vision of more balanced development.
"In deepening political restructuring, we must keep to the correct political orientation," Hu said in a speech opening the party's 17th congress.
Hu, who is expected to remain in power for another five years, said government advisory bodies, which include non-party members, should be given a greater role in decision making. He also supported holding more public hearings before laws and regulations are formulated.
He said the party had to pay more attention to taking a scientific outlook on development, a catchphrase for redistributing growth more equally and making more efficient use of energy.
"A relatively comfortable standard of living has been achieved for the people as a whole but the trend of a growing gap in incomes distribution has not been thoroughly reversed," Hu said. "There are still a considerable number of impoverished and low-income people in both urban and rural areas, and it has become more difficult to accommodate the interests of all sides."
On Sunday, congress spokesman Li Dongsheng said senior party members would put forth a blueprint for reforming political institutions, but the steps aimed to strengthen one-party rule and will not copy Western democratic models.
Li told reporters the party has studied and drawn from other country's political systems, along with its own experiences. "But, we will never copy the Western model of a political system," he added.
Li gave few specifics and declined to answer questions about expected retirements and promotions in the party's ruling Politburo, highlighting the secretive party's extreme sensitivity over personnel issues.
He said reforms would also aim to strengthen the legal system and decision-making, increase the government's responsiveness and "enhance supervision and restraint over the exercise of power." He was referring to Communist Party control over individual leaders, not an attempt to limit the party's unrivaled hold on power.
Li did not elaborate, but the congress is expected to address the case of former Politburo member and Shanghai party boss Chen Liangyu, who became the highest-ranking party member to fall in a decade when he was toppled amid a probe into wide-ranging corruption.
Although Hu's leadership has never been threatened, he is largely seen as weaker than past leaders, forcing him to compromise on some top appointments and other decisions. In a sign of possible constraints, Hu's retired predecessor, Jiang Zemin, was appointed to the committee handling the congress' arrangements, state media said Sunday.
Broadcast live on national television, Hu's opening speech was his highest-profile political address since taking power five years ago at the last party congress.
It was heavy with Communist rhetoric, with numerous references to holding "high the great banner of socialism with Chinese characteristics."
Hu largely reiterated goals of making China reasonably prosperous by 2020.
He said the country would pursue a peaceful path internationally. He warned Taiwan against further secessionist activities, but emphasized China's desire for peaceful reunification.
Security was heavy in Beijing with police removing a group of older people who appeared to be carrying petitions from the crowds gathered near the Hall on the side of Tiananmen Square.
The congress' more-than 2,200 delegates will elect a new party Central Committee. That body in turn will approve a smaller Politburo and the all-powerful Politburo Standing Committee, the apex of power in China.
Deliberations over the lineup have been going on for months and will take place this week behind closed doors. Its makeup is officially announced after the congress ends.
Hu is expected to also push for the elevation of protege Li Keqiang onto the Politburo Standing Committee, while Xi Jinping, the party boss of Shanghai and the son of a revolutionary veteran, is also expected to get a seat.
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed
...nimeona mnakandya sana ubepari na ubinafsishaji na kumpa sifa Nyerere kwa kazi nzuri aliyofanya kwenye uchumi wetu,kweli na mazuri yote ya nyerere lakini hapo naona mnafanya mzaha tuu na sioni sababu ya kusifia sera za nyerere ambazo ukweli tunaujua zilituletea umaskini tuu...natoa mfano mmoja tuu wa kiwanda cha bia na Sigara hivi viwanda kabla ya kubinafsisishwa vilikuwa ni mzigo na havilipi kodi na beer market yetu ilikuwa dominated na wakenya almost 100% lakini sasa hivi viwanda viwili tuu kodi vinalipa ni almost 5% ya bugdet yetu amabayo ni mafanikio makubwa sana,tatizo linakuja ni pale michezo michafu na rushwa vinapoingia katika uongozi wa nchi ambalo kwa kiasi kikubwa ndio sababu ya umaskini wetu...unaweza kuwa na sera nzuri za ujamaa au ubepari lakini kama rushwa na incompetence ndio order of the day maendeleo ni ndoto,mikataba yote imefeli kwa sababu imejaa rushwa & dishonesty sio kwa sababu ya sera nzuri za ujamaa au ubepari,naamini tukiacha rushwa na kuwa na watu competetnt tutaenelea haraka sana maana hatutaona tena vitu kama Richmond,BOT,Buzwagi na policy mbovu zilizoandikwa na watu wajinga
YNIM
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Wazee,
Kuna kitu naona watu wanakisahau, China ipo hapo ilipo si tu kwamba China wamefanyakazi ya ziada kufika hapo, bali pia mabadiliko ya kiuchumi ktk nchi za magharibi ndio pia kwa kiasi kikubwa yamechangia China kuwa hapo ilipo.
Mfano....Kutokana na gharama kubwa za uendeshaji ndani ya US, makampuni mengi sana yakakimbilia offshore hasa China kupata cheap labour. Hii inawasaidia kutokulipa medical isurances, expensive retirement packages, high cooperate taxes in US. Sheria ngumu na political correctiness ktk environmental issues pia imechangia sana kuongeza gharama za uzalishaji and therefore soln ya haraka ilikuwa kukimbilia China na India.
Kingine ni fact kwamba, China ni 1 billion strong ktk population so hakuna scarcity ya man power.......bila kusahau geographically, west coast ya US inafikika kiurahisi sana toka kwenye ports kubwa za China kama Shanghai na Guaijong.
Mabadiliko ya kiuchumi ktk magharibi hasa US toka manufacturing to service industry ndio imepelekea China iwe hapo na si miujiza ya kichina!!!!!!!.
Sisi Afrika tungeweza kuwa chaguo kama "workshop" ya hawa ma-westerners lakini vitu kama political stability and accessibility kwa ujumla ndio vikafanya tuwe by-passed. kinachotokea China si kitu kizuri in long run, kuna destruction ya laana ya kimazingira, almost saturation ya resources ukijumlisha rushwa, greedy na bad govermental regulations basi ni mchina wa kawaida ambae kijasho kinamvuja!!!!!!!..........kuna "zimamoto" ya kujenga mabarabara, electrical power plants, viwanja vya ndege na mengineyo ambayo mara nyingi ime-end up kuwa disaster kwa communities mbalimbali ndani ya China.
Mwisho kabisa kutokana na China kuwa desperate ktk kutafuta raw materials na energy kukidhi mahitaji yao, imekuwa tishio ktk global stability...mfano mzuri ni Sudan, efforts zote za kuwabana Khartoum juu ya Darfur zinatenguliwa na China kwa uchu wao wa mafuta!!!!!! Business as usual kati ya Beijing na Khartoum provided kwamba bottomline yao inakuwa bar none.
Kuna mvts ktk west against products made in china lakini its too late kwani ni kipenzi cha Makampuni makubwa.......bidhaa za China nyingi ni za quality ya chini sana, lakini haja ya low prices inafanya makampuni kama wal-mart yawe hayana choices nyingine!!!!!
Maendelea ya China juu juu ni mazuri lakini ni disaster in making, ambayo haijafikia hata close to the pick.....kwa mawazo yangu China si mfano mzuri, in a way ni sawa na uwekezaji wa hapo nyumbani kwa fashion tofauti....kwani anayenufaika hata China ni Wal mart na makampuni mengine makubwa ya west!!!!!!.
Kuna kitu naona watu wanakisahau, China ipo hapo ilipo si tu kwamba China wamefanyakazi ya ziada kufika hapo, bali pia mabadiliko ya kiuchumi ktk nchi za magharibi ndio pia kwa kiasi kikubwa yamechangia China kuwa hapo ilipo.
Mfano....Kutokana na gharama kubwa za uendeshaji ndani ya US, makampuni mengi sana yakakimbilia offshore hasa China kupata cheap labour. Hii inawasaidia kutokulipa medical isurances, expensive retirement packages, high cooperate taxes in US. Sheria ngumu na political correctiness ktk environmental issues pia imechangia sana kuongeza gharama za uzalishaji and therefore soln ya haraka ilikuwa kukimbilia China na India.
Kingine ni fact kwamba, China ni 1 billion strong ktk population so hakuna scarcity ya man power.......bila kusahau geographically, west coast ya US inafikika kiurahisi sana toka kwenye ports kubwa za China kama Shanghai na Guaijong.
Mabadiliko ya kiuchumi ktk magharibi hasa US toka manufacturing to service industry ndio imepelekea China iwe hapo na si miujiza ya kichina!!!!!!!.
Sisi Afrika tungeweza kuwa chaguo kama "workshop" ya hawa ma-westerners lakini vitu kama political stability and accessibility kwa ujumla ndio vikafanya tuwe by-passed. kinachotokea China si kitu kizuri in long run, kuna destruction ya laana ya kimazingira, almost saturation ya resources ukijumlisha rushwa, greedy na bad govermental regulations basi ni mchina wa kawaida ambae kijasho kinamvuja!!!!!!!..........kuna "zimamoto" ya kujenga mabarabara, electrical power plants, viwanja vya ndege na mengineyo ambayo mara nyingi ime-end up kuwa disaster kwa communities mbalimbali ndani ya China.
Mwisho kabisa kutokana na China kuwa desperate ktk kutafuta raw materials na energy kukidhi mahitaji yao, imekuwa tishio ktk global stability...mfano mzuri ni Sudan, efforts zote za kuwabana Khartoum juu ya Darfur zinatenguliwa na China kwa uchu wao wa mafuta!!!!!! Business as usual kati ya Beijing na Khartoum provided kwamba bottomline yao inakuwa bar none.
Kuna mvts ktk west against products made in china lakini its too late kwani ni kipenzi cha Makampuni makubwa.......bidhaa za China nyingi ni za quality ya chini sana, lakini haja ya low prices inafanya makampuni kama wal-mart yawe hayana choices nyingine!!!!!
Maendelea ya China juu juu ni mazuri lakini ni disaster in making, ambayo haijafikia hata close to the pick.....kwa mawazo yangu China si mfano mzuri, in a way ni sawa na uwekezaji wa hapo nyumbani kwa fashion tofauti....kwani anayenufaika hata China ni Wal mart na makampuni mengine makubwa ya west!!!!!!.
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Mkuuu Koba,
Toka Mwalimu aondoke, hatuoni tofauti, alipokuwa mdarakani tuliambiwa sana na wanasiasa uchwara jinsi Mwalimu alivyo bomu, sawa tukasilikiliza kwa makini wakitueleza na hasa wataalamu wa uchumi, kuwa sera za Mwalimu zilivyokuwa hazifai,
leo ni miaka mingapi toka Mwalimu aondoke kwenye madaraka, na hata afariki, walichokifanya tofauti kwa maisha ya m-Tanzania kiko wapi mkuu? Hiii mikataba ya Buzwagi na kina Kapuya kumiliki migodi, huku wananchi wakila udongo ndio sera bora kuliko za Mwalimu?
Tufikie mahali tulinganishe kati ya enzi zile na hizi! Hatukatai kuwa sera za uchumi za Mwalimu ziliturudisha nyuma, je sera za sasa za Buzwagi nazo vipi?
Masanja
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The fact is, Africa ni kichwa cha mwendawazimu, WE SHALL NEVER LEARN FROM OUR PAST MISTAKES! Jinsi wakoloni walivyochukua raslimali zetu na kutunyanyasa, sioni kwa nini leo Africa ikumbatie China as if wao wana motive tofauti na ile ya wazungu wa mwanzo KUCHUKUA RASLIMALI zetu. Kifupi sisi waafrika ubongo wetu una kasoro. hata keshokutwa India, Brazil, Burma nk zikija juu, utakuta tunaelekea huko huko. Tumeshaamua officially kuwa wasindikizaji na walalamishi kushift burden kwa wengine.
Kikubwa ni kwamba waafrica tunaogopa accountability kwa hiyo China wametu-trick kwa kutoulizia ujinga wa viongozi wetu na sisi tunachekelea kwamba huyo ndo rafiki wa kweli, wakati behind the curtain, China yeye anataka rich natural resources on our continent hakuna cha zaidi! Geita yakibaki mashimo, we are doomed. ndo China na yeye ataanza kuimba wimbo wa Human Rights akiwa ameshashiba na sisi tunabaki pale pale.
Again, I say we shall never learn, kama ni kujifunza tungekuwa tayari wanafunzi wazuri. kwa namna tulivyopata uhuru kwa suluba watu wakaumizwa, leo tusingekumbatia mkoloni mwingine yeyote yule awe mchina, mhindi, mwarabu au mwinginewe!
Lakini sikio la kufa halisikii dawa kamwe, so is Africa.
Kikubwa ni kwamba waafrica tunaogopa accountability kwa hiyo China wametu-trick kwa kutoulizia ujinga wa viongozi wetu na sisi tunachekelea kwamba huyo ndo rafiki wa kweli, wakati behind the curtain, China yeye anataka rich natural resources on our continent hakuna cha zaidi! Geita yakibaki mashimo, we are doomed. ndo China na yeye ataanza kuimba wimbo wa Human Rights akiwa ameshashiba na sisi tunabaki pale pale.
Again, I say we shall never learn, kama ni kujifunza tungekuwa tayari wanafunzi wazuri. kwa namna tulivyopata uhuru kwa suluba watu wakaumizwa, leo tusingekumbatia mkoloni mwingine yeyote yule awe mchina, mhindi, mwarabu au mwinginewe!
Lakini sikio la kufa halisikii dawa kamwe, so is Africa.
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