New Book on Islam Published

MaxShimba said:
As I said before, darwin ameweka madai and not questions. FYI hakuna nchi ya Kikristo kama ilivyo katika utamaduni wa Waarabu kuweka na kuislimisha nchi na kuwa ya kiislam, yaani nchi kuwa na deen kama allah wenu alivyo kuwa na deen. Sijuwi allah wenu anamsalia nani na nchi kama nchi inamsalia nani.

Uislam, si imani kama unavyo fikiria, bali ni submission kwa allah wenu kutokana na Koran yenye shaka. Ukitaka ukweli halisi kuhusu hiyo submission, basi itanibidi nianze kuweka ayat kutoka Koran na sahih hadith, kitu ambacho nilikuwa sitaki kufanya. You can see from my replies kutokea mwanza, ninajaribu kuavoid mwendo huo, ambao, unaweza ukawa personal to you muhammadans, na kuwapandisha jazba, na kusababisha hii thread kufungwa.

Mwadishi wa kitabu amedai kuwa uilsam umeweza kwa kiasi kikubwa kumhusisha mwanamke, wakati ni uongo mtupu kutokana no Koran yenu inayo dai kuwa Mwanamke ni nusu mtu na hana haki katika usilam.
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nina wasiwasi sijui kama huwa unasoma unachoandika au unagonga tu keyboard, yaani siku nikisoma post yako na kukuta inaavoid offpoints nadhani itakuwa JF imekwisha!!

kwa ufupi katika uislam mwanamke amepewa nafasi, na kila kitu kimeandikwa haki na wajibu, tatizo huwezi ku-connect dots unadokoa kinachokufurahisha toka katika vyanzo vyako na kuondoka nacho, kama mwanamke wa kiislam ninazijua haki zangu na namshukuru mungu kuzaliwa nikiwa katika uislam, majibu ya maswali yangu yote nayapata ndani ya qurani sina haja ya kwenda beijing!!!

kabla ya uislam pana makabila na mila (zakiarabu na hata kiafrica) zilizokuwa zinachukia na hata kuua mtoto wa kike anapozaliwa na hii mpaka leo bado ipo hata baadhi ya makabila tu hapa tanzania lakini qurani au uislam umelikemea hilo!!
mila za kumuingilia mwanamke kinyume na maumbile ni laana kwa mujibu wa qurani na uislam, mwanamke sio kitega uchumi kama ilivyokuwa mila zetu za kiafrika makabila mengi yalikuwa na polygamy hadi wake 30 angalia historia za machifu lakini qurani inalimit 4 tena kwa sababu maalum,kwa wenye mazingatio sio tu kuoa kama unavyosema ww,

sasa mkuu naomba niambie biblia au ukristo unasemaje juu ya mwanamke!!
 
As I said in my prior post, it is not my intention to post ayats in this thread, although it seems you will be satisfied if you see some of those ayats from Muhammadic Koran.

Well, nenda kwenye hizi thread mbili, utapata majibu ya maswali yako.

https://www.jamiiforums.com/dini-imani/18366-haki-ya-mwanamke-wa-kiislam.html

https://www.jamiiforums.com/dini-imani/14041-islamic-female-circumcision.html

I am still avoiding to post ayats, because, some of the ayats are too graphic and may cause you guys kujaa jazba na kuanza kuchukua mambo personal.
 
Its better to live with no religion if only by doing will lead to mind pollution' but if the same mind suffers because of it then take it as a solution rather than dying with confusion'
 
MaxShimba said:
Can you run from yourself?
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NIONYESHE NYINYI MNAOJIITA WAKRISTO NA MWENYE SIFA HIZI HUYO YESU ALIETABIRI....?

MARKO 16
17“Nazo ishara hizi zitafuatana na wale waaminio:

Kwa Jina Langu watatoa pepo wachafu,

watasema kwa lugha mpya,

18watashika nyoka kwa mikono yao

na hata wakinywa kitu cho chote cha kuua,
hakitawadhuru kamwe,

wataweka mikono yao juu ya wagonjwa, nao watapona.”



WEWE MAX KIMBELEMBELE UNAZO HIZI SIFA KIMATUMBI TU HUJUI.

NYINYI MNAOJIITA WAKRISTO JIBUNI HILI MSIPOJIBU NDIO TUTAONA UWONGO WENU DHAHIRI.
 
MaxShimba said:
Inaonekana dada wa kidhunghu amekupagawisha. lol. Si unaona jinsi civilization ya mwamedi ya kuoa wake 4 na baadae kupewa mabikira 72 wa kiarabu inavyo jionyesha kwako.!!!

Sasa rudi kwenye mada, na tuletee huo ushaidi unao daiwa na ndugu zenu akina Ali MAzrui, et al, ya civilization ya Islam katika africa,.....
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Alioa 13 si wa 4 na mmoja kati yao alimuoa akiwa na miaka kati ya 8 na 9 hivi si unamfahamu?..................... sasa hili la wanne umeliokota wapi? wape live kwamba walioa 13 na kuwalazimisha wao waoe 4 kisha akawahaidi mabikira 72 wakati kesha tangulia kuwambia kuwa yeye hajui anakokwenda kuna nini wala nini kitamtokea. Sasa hawa 72 sijui hata yeye alisema akiwa na uhakika wapo au hawapo? Kazi kweli kweli:D
 
Mchukia Fisadi said:
Alioa 13 si wa 4 na mmoja kati yao alimuoa akiwa na miaka kati ya 8 na 9 hivi si unamfahamu?..................... sasa hili la wanne umeliokota wapi? wape live kwamba walioa 13 na kuwalazimisha wao waoe 4 kisha akawahaidi mabikira 72 wakati kesha tangulia kuwambia kuwa yeye hajui anakokwenda kuna nini wala nini kitamtokea. Sasa hawa 72 sijui hata yeye alisema akiwa na uhakika wapo au hawapo? Kazi kweli kweli:D
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WEW UNASHANGAA WAKE 13 TUU MBONA KIDOGOO JEE HII ULISHAWAHI KUIONA MAANA HATA BIBLE YENU HAMUIJUI.

1. WAKE WA NABII DAUDI
At least 18 wives - Michal, Abigail, Ahinoam of Jezreel, Eglah, Maacah, Abital, Haggith, and Bathsheba, and "10 women/concubines"
"Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife." 1 Samuel 18:27. (See also 1 Samuel 19:11-18; 25:44; and 2 Samuel 3:13-14; 6:20-23.)



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27[FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow][FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow]Daudi na watu wake walitoka na kuua Wafilisti mia mbili. Akayaleta magovi yao na kupeleka hesabu kamilifu kwa mfalme ili kwamba apate kuwa mkwewe mfalme. Ndipo Sauli akamwoza Daudi Mikali binti yake. [/FONT][/FONT]

1SAMWELI 25
[FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow][FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow]39Kisha Daudi akatuma ujumbe kwa Abigaili
kumwomba awe mke wake. [FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow][FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow]40[/FONT][/FONT]Watumishi wa Daudi wakaenda mpaka Karmeli na kumwambia Abigaili wakisema, "Daudi ametutuma kwako kukuchukua uwe mkewe.’’

David also took Ahinoam of Jezreel; and they were also both of them his wives." 1 Samuel 25:43

But Saul had given Michal his daughter, David's wife," 1 Samuel 25:44

And David took him more concubines and wives" 2 Samuel 5:13, 1 Chronicles 14:3

"And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things." 2 Samuel 12:7-8


"And David comforted Bathsheba his wife..." 2 Samuel 12:24

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Mchukia Fisadi said:
Alioa 13 si wa 4 na mmoja kati yao alimuoa akiwa na miaka kati ya 8 na 9 hivi si unamfahamu?..................... sasa hili la wanne umeliokota wapi? wape live kwamba walioa 13 na kuwalazimisha wao waoe 4 kisha akawahaidi mabikira 72 wakati kesha tangulia kuwambia kuwa yeye hajui anakokwenda kuna nini wala nini kitamtokea. Sasa hawa 72 sijui hata yeye alisema akiwa na uhakika wapo au hawapo? Kazi kweli kweli:D
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Seven Women shall take hold of One Man
"And in that day
seven women shall take hold of one man,
saying,
We will eat our own bread,
and wear our own apparel:
only let us be called by thy name,
to take away our reproach. "
Isaiah 4:1.
That "seven women" would seek to be called by the name of "one man" is a clear evidence of polygamy (polygyny) in the Bible, even in prophecy such as this passage. Of course, though, the situation described in this prophetic verse is not all that positive.
A rather small minority, however, does view that verse as a "literal" prophecy, foretelling of a time when women might out-number men, seven-to-one.
Howbeit, most Bible-believers see that verse, instead, as a negative prophecy, regarding the churches of God seeking to "do their own thing".
According to the verse, the seven women are arrogant women. Their only motivation for marrying the man is to use him. They only want to be CALLED by the man's name, only so as to take away their reproach, their shame. But they still arrogantly want to do things their own way. They want to provide their own things their own way.
This, of course, does NOT present an image of the type of wives that Bible-believing men would want to marry! It certainly does not describe marriage within the Biblical marriage-model of Ephesians 5:22-25.
Given, as the majority of Bible-believers believe, that this prophecy is an image about arrogant churches (rather than "literally" about arrogant women wanting to marry a polygamist), this passage presents a "wake-up call" for all Bible-believers.
Namely, the "seven women" are understood as being churches who only want to be CALLED by the name of Christ, to be His brides. They only do so in hopes of having their fruitless shame (as per sin) removed, even though they still arrogantly want to do things their own way.
They want to feed themselves their own bread, instead of being fed on the bread of Christ.
They want to clothe themselves in their own apparel, instead of being clothed in the righteousness of Christ.
While there is reasonable debate among many as to whether the similitude of the "seven women" in Isaiah 4:1 is connected directly with the "seven churches" of Revelation chapters 2 and 3, many still agree, nevertheless, that Isaiah 4:1 is a negative prophecy concerning arrogant churches. It is the foretelling of seven churches wanting to marry Christ who do so only with a selfish motive to seek to have His salvation (i.e., to be CALLED "Christian", to be CALLED by His Name) but while, at the same time, still wanting to be doing things their own way, to stay in their sin. They want to be CALLED "Christian" but they do not want to BE Christian, in ALL their ways, "in spirit and in truth".
As TruthBearer.org's Mark the Founder has said, Isaiah 4:1 could be seen as a forewarning, that this prophecy could even be foretelling of any Churches that adamantly refuse to believe or to allow themselves to see the Biblically-proven truth that polygamy (polygyny) really is Biblical. That is, such Churches want to be called by the name of Christ, while they simultaneously close their ears to the Biblical truth of polygyny and thereby unwittingly even accuse Jesus Christ Himself of supposed "sin", because of Matthew 25:1-13! This is, of course, combined with the matter that 1 Timothy 4:1-3a reveals that the Holy Spirit expressly foretold of the time when people would be forbidding to marry any families such as that of polygamous Abraham, Moses, David, and others, as well as how The Lord described Himself polygynously too, as Jesus clearly did, for example, in Matthew 25:1-13.
Indeed, Isaiah 4:1 is not the only time that a prophecy describes the relationship between The Lord and the Churches in a context of a polygamist marriage setting.
Namely, this Isaiah 4:1 prophecy does indeed also provide such additional confirmation of the Biblical presentation of the plurality of Churches (i.e., more than one) being as brides of Christ (plurally). Just as Christ is presented as polygamously married to His Churches (i.e., being Bridegroom of the "five wise virgins") in Matthew 25:1-13, so too does this Isaiah 4:1 present Christ in another context of polygamous marriage with Churches.
Even as the Isaiah 4:1 prophecy is indeed so perceived by most Bible-believers as such a negative prophecy regarding the churches, it does still, nevertheless, demonstrate a key point about the topic of polygamy.
Namely, the fact that this prophecy would detail the idea of seven women who WANT to marry a polygamist (even in the context of churches unto Christ), that fact itself, that a prophecy of God would use polygamy in such an example, is further proof again that polygamy really is Biblical.
 
Mchukia Fisadi said:
Alioa 13 si wa 4 na mmoja kati yao alimuoa akiwa na miaka kati ya 8 na 9 hivi si unamfahamu?..................... sasa hili la wanne umeliokota wapi? wape live kwamba walioa 13 na kuwalazimisha wao waoe 4 kisha akawahaidi mabikira 72 wakati kesha tangulia kuwambia kuwa yeye hajui anakokwenda kuna nini wala nini kitamtokea. Sasa hawa 72 sijui hata yeye alisema akiwa na uhakika wapo au hawapo? Kazi kweli kweli:D
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. UFALME WA MBINGUNI MTU ATAKUWA NA BIKIRA 10 ENDELEO KUTOKA JUU ...!

MATHAYO 25.
25:1 “At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom


HI NI KWA WALE WALIO KASHIF UISLAM KUHUSU WAKE WENGI KWENYE UFALME WA MBINGUNI...HII JE?
 
NIONYESHE NYINYI MNAOJIITA WAKRISTO NA MWENYE SIFA HIZI HUYO YESU ALIETABIRI....?

MARKO 16
17“Nazo ishara hizi zitafuatana na wale waaminio:

Kwa Jina Langu watatoa pepo wachafu,

watasema kwa lugha mpya,

18watashika nyoka kwa mikono yao

na hata wakinywa kitu cho chote cha kuua,
hakitawadhuru kamwe,

wataweka mikono yao juu ya wagonjwa, nao watapona.”



WEWE MAX KIMBELEMBELE UNAZO HIZI SIFA KIMATUMBI TU HUJUI.

NYINYI MNAOJIITA WAKRISTO JIBUNI HILI MSIPOJIBU NDIO TUTAONA UWONGO WENU DHAHIRI


HII MUSIKIMBIE TUONESHENI HUYO MKRISTO MWENYE SIFA HIZI AMBAE AKINYWA SUMU HAFI.....LOL
 
MaxShimba said:
As I said in my prior post, it is not my intention to post ayats in this thread, although it seems you will be satisfied if you see some of those ayats from Muhammadic Koran.

Well, nenda kwenye hizi thread mbili, utapata majibu ya maswali yako.

https://www.jamiiforums.com/dini-imani/18366-haki-ya-mwanamke-wa-kiislam.html

https://www.jamiiforums.com/dini-imani/14041-islamic-female-circumcision.html

I am still avoiding to post ayats, because, some of the ayats are too graphic and may cause you guys kujaa jazba na kuanza kuchukua mambo personal.
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Umesahau kumuambia pia kuna hii post anaweza kuitembelea pia:

https://www.jamiiforums.com/dini-imani/18414-how-treat-women-according-christianity.html

Na hii pia:
https://www.jamiiforums.com/dini-imani/28386-witness-jesus-afghanistan.html
 
Mchukia Fisadi said:
Alioa 13 si wa 4 na mmoja kati yao alimuoa akiwa na miaka kati ya 8 na 9 hivi si unamfahamu?..................... sasa hili la wanne umeliokota wapi? wape live kwamba walioa 13 na kuwalazimisha wao waoe 4 kisha akawahaidi mabikira 72 wakati kesha tangulia kuwambia kuwa yeye hajui anakokwenda kuna nini wala nini kitamtokea. Sasa hawa 72 sijui hata yeye alisema akiwa na uhakika wapo au hawapo? Kazi kweli kweli:D
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Asante Mkuu.
 
MaxShimba said:
Asante Mkuu.
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WEW UNASHANGAA WAKE 13 TUU MBONA KIDOGOO JEE HII ULISHAWAHI KUIONA MAANA HATA BIBLE YENU HAMUIJUI.

1. WAKE WA NABII DAUDI
At least 18 wives - Michal, Abigail, Ahinoam of Jezreel, Eglah, Maacah, Abital, Haggith, and Bathsheba, and "10 women/concubines"
"Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and slew of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife." 1 Samuel 18:27. (See also 1 Samuel 19:11-18; 25:44; and 2 Samuel 3:13-14; 6:20-23.)



1 SAMWELI.18
27[FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow][FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow]Daudi na watu wake walitoka na kuua Wafilisti mia mbili. Akayaleta magovi yao na kupeleka hesabu kamilifu kwa mfalme ili kwamba apate kuwa mkwewe mfalme. Ndipo Sauli akamwoza Daudi Mikali binti yake. [/FONT][/FONT]

1SAMWELI 25
[FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow][FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow]39Kisha Daudi akatuma ujumbe kwa Abigaili
kumwomba awe mke wake. [FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow][FONT=Arial Narrow,Arial Narrow]40[/FONT][/FONT]Watumishi wa Daudi wakaenda mpaka Karmeli na kumwambia Abigaili wakisema, "Daudi ametutuma kwako kukuchukua uwe mkewe.’’

David also took Ahinoam of Jezreel; and they were also both of them his wives." 1 Samuel 25:43

But Saul had given Michal his daughter, David's wife," 1 Samuel 25:44

And David took him more concubines and wives" 2 Samuel 5:13, 1 Chronicles 14:3

"And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul; And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things." 2 Samuel 12:7-8


"And David comforted Bathsheba his wife..." 2 Samuel 12:24

"And the king went forth, and all his household after him. And the king left ten women, which were concubines, to keep the house." 2 Samuel 15:16. (See also 2 Samuel 16:21-23.) [/FONT][/FONT]



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X-PASTER said:
Sasa kaka wewe chakula hata kikiwa kitamu, unakunja uso, kikiwa kichungu unakunja uso... vipi!?
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lol, kaazi kweli kweli.

Mimi ningetegemea uweke mavituzi ya kuthibitisha civilization, lakini naona kuwa huna uhakika na shaka ya mwamedi.
 
maxshimba said:
lol, kaazi kweli kweli.

mimi ningetegemea uweke mavituzi ya kuthibitisha civilization, lakini naona kuwa huna uhakika na shaka ya mwamedi.
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sifa za mungu wa mlugulu katoliki anaemuabudu paulo max.

bwa mdogo yesu.
1. Anapata njaa na kufakamia msosi.

2. Akishiba anakwenda ****** kuachia vitu.

3. Amekula kichapo na kutundikwa kama kuku.

4. Ametimuliwa na wayahudi.

5.anakwenda sokoni kununua misosi

6. Alikua maskini

7.amenyonya kwenye ziwa la mwanamke (maria)

8.alivyokuwa mdogo akijinyea anachambishwa.

9.hakua na cheo chochote katika nchi(eti wanamwita mfalme)

10.anachoka na kuchapa usingizi.

kwa sifa hizi tuu inaonyesha jinsi mungu wa max alivyo mzaifu hata mimi nikizipanga nae ninampa kichapo...?


muhammad hataki masiara kwanza ana jeshi la watu wa mungu wakakamavu na nikiongozi na mfalme kwenye arab peninsula yote na majeshi yake ndio yalitawala israel.
 
MaxShimba said:
lol, kaazi kweli kweli.

Mimi ningetegemea uweke mavituzi ya kuthibitisha civilization, lakini naona kuwa huna uhakika na shaka ya mwamedi.
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Ulishasema kuwa "UPENDI" Kukumbushwa wala kuambia ukweli, kwako chakula kikiwa kitamu au kichungu unakasirika. Sura unaikunja... Tukusaidie vipi!?
 
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