Kenya faults Tanzania over tour van charges

[BabuK]

Nadhani migongano hii ni mstakabali wa biashara ya Utalii ambayo kwa kipindi kirefu ilihodhiwa na Kenya wakati wa Tz walikuwa hawajaivalia kibwebwe kuanzia awamu ya Mama Megji kama waziri wa Utalii

Bodi ya Utalii Tz inajitahidi sana . hata ukizuru tovuti yao Tanzania Tourist Board | The Official Website of Tanzania Tourist Board utaona kwamba wanasema Tza ni nchi ya Mlima Kilimanjaro, Zanzibar na Serengeti. Kuna wakati walinunua airtime kutangaza utalii kwenye CNN ambayo inatazamwa dunia nzima.

Kama nilivyoandika kwenye makala mbalimbali juu ya migongano kati ya TZ na Kenya, tatizo kubwa ni kuaminiana na hii itachukua muda kwa pande zote kuanza kuongea lugha moja. Hii itakuja wakati Kenya itaacha mbinu ambazo Tz inaona ni za ujanja ujanja kwenye biashara na Tz itaona kwamba sasa Kenya inazingatia "fair business Practice" na kuleta win-win situation in "Fair Deal" na hivyo kuiamini kama mshirika sawa ( equal partner) na sio Big brother.

Kwa mfano kama gari la watalii lina abiria 16 ambao wakala wa utalii kenya kawatoza kila mmoja $ 200 hii kampuni ambayo inatozwa $ 200 kuingia Tz maana yake inapata $3000 poa kabisa kwa kucheza mchezo huu.
Kenya hawatozi magari yanayoingia Kenya kwa sababu mizania inaonyesha kwamba si magari mengi uilinganisha na yanayoingia Tz toka Kenya...Kwa hio wanatumia kama "mtama kwa kuku".
Tuendelee kubanana tutafika kama nia yetu ni moja!!!! Idumu EAC

 

[DAR si LAMU]

..Tanzania tuna watu wengi kuliko nchi zote za EA halafu documents muhimu zinaandikwa ktk lugha ambayo wa-Tanzania wengi hawaimudu.

...Then, were are supposed to translate them. We can not blame anyone, for this, can we.

 

[DAR si LAMU]

Kwa mfano kama gari la watalii lina abiria 16 ambao wakala wa utalii kenya kawatoza kila mmoja $ 200 hii kampuni ambayo inatozwa $ 200 kuingia Tz maana yake inapata $3000 poa kabisa kwa kucheza mchezo huu. Kenya hawatozi magari yanayoingia Kenya kwa sababu mizania inaonyesha kwamba si magari mengi uilingatnsha na yanayoingia Tz toka Kenya...Kwa hio wanatumia kama "mtama kwa kuku". Tuendelee kubanana tutafika kama nia yetu ni moja!!!! Idumu EAC

...Totally in agreement!

...Traffic ya watalii kupitia JKIA ni kubwa sana. And guest what, a sizable number of them end up in coming to Tanzania. Wachache wanatoka huku kwenda kule, kwa maana ya point of initial entry. "Mtama kwa kuku" kweli kweli.

 

[kande kavu]

ACHA watangaze,kama wewe umelala na wao wanaona pesa inapita acha wapige pesa,sisi tumebaki kulalama,hata viongozi wetu hawaweki kipaumbele ktk mlima huo

Idiocy? Viongozi ndo Mungu wako, Uliambiwa wakijinyea na wewe jinyee? Yaani uache kutafuta haki yako kwa sababu viongozi wako hawana mpango nayo! Au ni miongoni mwa waliofumbwa akili kwa t-shirt, kanga, kofia na sufuria kadhaa za wali! Wake up bro!

 

[JokaKuu]

...Then, were are supposed to translate them. We can not blame anyone, for this, can we.

DAR si LAMU,

..lakini EAC ni jumuiya yetu sote.

..sasa kwanini nyaraka zake muhimu ziandikwe kwa lugha ya wenzetu wa Kenya na Uganda, na kutuacha pembeni wa-Tanzania?

..sekretariet ya EAC ndiyo inayopaswa kubeba jukumu la kutafsiri nyaraka zake ktk kiswahili,kiingereza,na kifaransa[kwa ajili ya warundi].

..makao makuu ya EAC yapo ktk ardhi yetu wa-Tanzania, halafu yanaendesha shughuli zake kana kwamba ni chombo cha kigeni.

 

[matsuo]

..with regards to EAC documents, the Kenyans have been very smart in making sure all the documents are written in English.

..Tanzania tuna watu wengi kuliko nchi zote za EA halafu documents muhimu zinaandikwa ktk lugha ambayo wa-Tanzania wengi hawaimudu.

..hii nchi haina viongozi.

Tanzanians must be damn slow...I mean it’s just a small document if the government realizes that majority of people cannot understand it, it should simply translate it into Swahili

 

[Nairoberry]

Lakini mandugu wetu wakenya mbona mnaiadvertise mt.kilimanjaro kama iko kenya?? Watu wengi duniani udhani kilimanjaro iko kenya kweli hawa majirani manafanya mambo ya ajabu.sisi nadhani tupo slow na hatujali raslimali zetu. Lakini itabidi wakenya watuombe msamaha hapa.

 

[matsuo]

Funny enough many people out there thinks Mt Kilimanjaro is in Kenya. Of course it's a wrong notion; but maybe it has something to do with pre-colonial history. Did you know that the border between Kenya and Tanzania was straight and that the mountain was in Kenya? It is Queen Victoria, then the monarch of the United Kingdom that ‘gave' it to her grandson, Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany, as a birthday gift. Check your history!!!

 

[DAR si LAMU]

..lakini EAC ni jumuiya yetu sote.

...Ni kweli

..sasa kwanini nyaraka zake muhimu ziandikwe kwa lugha ya wenzetu wa Kenya na Uganda, na kutuacha pembeni wa-Tanzania?

...Lugha ya wenzetu ni ipi? Halafu, mbona nyingi ya nyaraka -ambazo ni za umma, or for public use- za serikali, mahakama na bunge katika Tanzania zimeandikwa kwa kiingereza?. Kweli? katika hili tunaweza kuwalaumu wenzetu?. Mbona hata muswada wa sheria ya marekebisho ya Katiba uliandikwa kiingereza? ...Anyways. Lugha rasmi ya EAC ni kiingereza, na kiswahili ni lingua franca na hii iko kwenye Article 137 of the Treaty.

..sekretariet ya EAC ndiyo inayopaswa kubeba jukumu la kutafsiri nyaraka zake ktk kiswahili,kiingereza,na kifaransa[kwa ajili ya warundi].

...Si lazima tuisubiri Secretariat kama tunaweza fanya hivyo. Hivi, BAKITA wanakazi nyingi sana?. Nadhani hawatumiki vya kutosha.

..makao makuu ya EAC yapo ktk ardhi yetu wa-Tanzania, halafu yanaendesha shughuli zake kana kwamba ni chombo cha kigeni.

...Kweli, ni chombo cha kigeni. Do we know how EU operates in Brussels?

 

[Kimweri]

What tz needs tondo is remove barriers to entry for tourists who wishes to enter directly through JKNIA as opposed to JKIA.
this would prompt tourists to reconsider their decisions to enter through Kenya,taxing them heavily for entering from Kenya is a smart move,we should also create incentives for tourists who actually comes in direct through JKNIA,am not an expert in this,but it should be plain and simple,in a way any tourist wishing to hike mt. kilimkanjaro from Kenya or visit the Serengeti would have to be dumb to to that.
If we are not smart enough to strategies we can hire geniuses from Global powerhouses to lay out strategies for us then we harmonize them to reflect our situation.and here politicians must be kept at bay as they are always for short term gains.

 

[moyo]

Tanzania is full of people who are very poor in business and basic history....Mt Kilimanjaro is technically Kenyan..no wonder we will have an airport near it.I am also in the tourism industry and the hell we go through whenever our van pass thru namanga nobody can tell! you have one of the most corrupt govt officials so far...that is the main reason Tanzania is voted the worst place to do business in the region.! it does not matter coz you are too cheap! with small bribes as little as ksh 1k..ua officials let vans pass without any problem.
However this charges are bad for business..its hurts Tanzania more than you think..so stop exchanging ignorance on this issue.

 

[Kimweri]

Tanzania is full of people who are very poor in business and basic history....Mt Kilimanjaro is technically Kenyan..no wonder we will have an airport near it.I am also in the tourism industry and the hell we go through whenever our van pass thru namanga nobody can tell! you have one of the most corrupt govt officials so far...that is the main reason Tanzania is voted the worst place to do business in the region.! it does not matter coz you are too cheap! with small bribes as little as ksh 1k..ua officials let vans pass without any problem.
However this charges are bad for business..its hurts Tanzania more than you think..so stop exchanging ignorance on this issue.

Hello wiseguy,just because you apparently happen to meet with some lazy policeman at the boarder,do not goa ahead and assume every Tanzanian is such. We do have our fundamental issues as a Nation, Huge ones,but that does not guarantee you any superiority across these boards. If we take this as a pressing issue there is no lack of smart brains to device a corruption free strategy to counter your free ride across the border my naive kenyan friend.

Kenya buidling an airport near the Kilimanjaro is like a neighbor buying new tires when the next house has a brand new car..,at the end of the day,i wouldn;t call that a smart move,as it is purely based on what TZ will do with our damn piece of rock..,comes a change in regulation and you are screwed with a white elephant airport.But given how resource stricken you are as a Nation, i totally feel for kenya. Its hard being Kenya surrounded by UG(Oil), TZ(everything) and the South Freaking Sudan(with its oil riches).
I know you will come up wit hTZ is sleeping type of ****..,but hey yeah even china slept for over half a century,while Japan piggybacked it..,look who is smiling all the way to the bank now.

Trade protections Hurts in the long term,every one knows it, But in some cases it helps to bring matters under control.Tanzania can not stop Kenya falsely/trickly advertising "kilimanjaro can be seen from kenya"..,what Tanzania can do though is Tax the hell out of anyone who was stupid enough to buy that ****. No hard feelings, everyone does this tax thing, the US does it,the UK does it, hell even China does it..,why not Tanzania for a change?

 

[The Quonquerer]

Mkuki kwa Nguruwe, ila kwa binadamu mchungu. Tanzania Horticultural Association wamelalamika miaka mingi kuhusu Kshs. 2 wanazokatwa for each kg kwa cut flowers wanazo airlift kupitia JKIA, lakini hazijaondolewa. TZ keep charging, tighten the grip! Nchi inahitaji pesa bana! Pia, KE wana NTBs nyingi, hawataki Konyagi iingie Kenya, Serengeti beer na wanang'oa mabango ya adverts za TZ kule Kenya wanazohisi ni thraet kwao. These people are unfair competitors, hawafai! Musoma Dairy, Mboga na vitu kibao haviruhusiwi kwao, we don't need free riders in the name of EAC Integration!

 

[The Quonquerer]

Tanzania is full of people who are very poor in business and basic history....Mt Kilimanjaro is technically Kenyan..no wonder we will have an airport near it.I am also in the tourism industry and the hell we go through whenever our van pass thru namanga nobody can tell! you have one of the most corrupt govt officials so far...that is the main reason Tanzania is voted the worst place to do business in the region.! it does not matter coz you are too cheap! with small bribes as little as ksh 1k..ua officials let vans pass without any problem.
However this charges are bad for business..its hurts Tanzania more than you think..so stop exchanging ignorance on this issue.

i don't understand this goofy, Mt. Kilimanjaro is technically Kenyan, can you elaborate? Go ahead and annex it with your operation linda nchi!

 

[Kabaridi]

Nina furaha kuwa wamo viongozi hapo Dar wanaona twenty years down the line

kutoka Relief as Dar strikes out fee for EA trucks  - News |nation.co.ke

 

[i pad3]

watanzania mkikubali hili mtakuwa mmefanya a big mistake..wakenye wanapokea watali wengi sana na mbuga zao zinaanza kufa

 

[Kabaridi]

i don't understand this goofy, Mt. Kilimanjaro is technically Kenyan, can you elaborate? Go ahead and annex it with your operation linda nchi!

Is it that you are ignorant of history au?! technically it is kenyan maana Queen of England dished it out as a birthday gift to a German whatever and you should be greatful to the British for border demarcations. wakati huu mungekuwa munaongelea kuhusu mbuga kavu za wanyama pekee

 

[The Quonquerer]

Is it that you are ignorant of history au?! technically it is kenyan maana Queen of England dished it out as a birthday gift to a German whatever and you should be greatful to the British for border demarcations. wakati huu mungekuwa munaongelea kuhusu mbuga kavu za wanyama pekee

and who gave you mt. kenya and mombasa? can't you be grateful as well, as you would be landlocked, who dou have to thank for that?

 

[Bongolander]

...I will be interested to know if Balala had some talks on these issues with his counterpart, and they failed. Going to the press -he is politicizing the matter- will not help, as important and thorny issues like these are settled over the table.

The matter is political already, since it involves two different countries. The trouble is there is no one one the otherside of the border to talk seriously about this matter. Balala anafanya kile chenye manufa kwa nchi yake, lakini wa upande huu inawezekana hajui nini cha mafunaa kwa nchi yake.

 

[Kabaridi]

and who gave you mt. kenya and mombasa? can't you be grateful as well, as you would be landlocked, who dou have to thank for that?

What I am saying is that Kenya has never claimed Kilimanjaro, the disadvantage to you is that it is right at the border so you feel short changed ever time visitors at Amboseli see it