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Haya ndio majibu ya Mh. Zitto ya kukosekana kwenye m4c

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Ocheke, Sep 11, 2012.

  1. Ocheke

    Ocheke JF-Expert Member

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    9 Sep [​IMG] Abel Kaseko ‏@kaseko

    Kuna maswali unatakiwa kuyajibu ili kufuta uongo wa kisiasa : kwamba haujawahi kuhudhuria Mikutano ya M4C.. @zittokabwe @omarilyas
    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @kaseko some of us rebranded the party and ensured its growth to now. Anybody knows CDM pre 2005? @omarilyas

    9 Sep [​IMG] Fredrick Max ‏@Fredrickmax
    @zittokabwe @kaseko @omarilyas kaseko hamna asiyetambua mchango wa Zitto kwa CDM..swali ni what works for now?
    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @MohamediMtoi kuna waliojali status quo, wakaendeleza kazi kujenga maisha yao kwanza na kisha kutufuata @Fredrickmax @kaseko @omarilyas

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @MohamediMtoi hapana. Sitaki kusema chochote. Ninachosema ni kuwa 1) those who risked 2) those free riders (in public finance)....

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @MohamediMtoi I am in Sri Lanka for a Commonwealth Parliamentary Association meeting. Also reading and writing - my favourites

    9 Sep [​IMG] Fred Kavishe ‏@fredrooney
    @zittokabwe all the best comrade

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @Fredrickmax M4C is next level. We started with Sangara. Then Vua gamba Vaa gwanda na sasa M4C @MohamediMtoi @kaseko @omarilyas #M4C

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @Fredrickmax don't pick up silly things. Triviality. Look the content of the subject matter @MohamediMtoi @kaseko @omarilyas #M4C

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @MohamediMtoi hapana. Sitaki kusema chochote. Ninachosema ni kuwa 1) those who risked 2) those free riders (in public finance)....

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @Fredrickmax ofcourse team work. I am proud to be part of the team which transformed the party. Sasa tupo wengi..... @kaseko @omarilyas

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @MohamediMtoi I led the struggle from front when being chadema was old fashion. I am very happy now @Fredrickmax @kaseko @omarilyas

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @MohamediMtoi kuna waliojali status quo, wakaendeleza kazi kujenga maisha yao kwanza na kisha kutufuata @Fredrickmax @kaseko @omarilyas

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @MohamediMtoi kuna tulioona kwanza na kukataa status quo na kuingia kuweka msingi wa mabadiliko. @Fredrickmax @kaseko @omarilyas
    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @Fredrickmax what team spirit? Be specific @kaseko

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @Fredrickmax Tunapokezana vijiti. Wengine tuli rebrand chama out of obscurity. Tumekuwa wengi. Tunasaidiana. No kelele @kaseko @omarilyas
    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @kaseko unapokuwa mwanasiasa kwenye nchi kama Tanzania ambapo principles and ideological orientation havina nafasi. Best, focus @omarilyas

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @kaseko so achana na hao wanaoiona CHADEMA kwa jicho la M4C. Hata niwape utume watasema tu. I just move on with work, hardwork @omarilyas

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @kaseko some of us rebranded the party and ensured its growth to now. Anybody knows CDM pre 2005? @omarilyas
    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @kaseko one thing, kuna watu wanataka kuaminisha umma kuwa CDM imeanza kujengwa after 2010. Wao walipoingia. Damn wrong @omarilyas
    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @kaseko when I do they close their eyes. When I don't they open their mouths @omarilyas

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @kaseko nimefanya ziara Tanga. Nimefanya mikutano ya uchaguzi wa madiwani all over the country. Nimefanya Iringa. Tawi USA @omarilyas

    9 Sep [​IMG] Zitto Zuberi Kabwe ‏@zittokabwe
    @kaseko mikutano ya M4C...... It is very unfortunate. Ninafanya mikutano ya chama #CHADEMA ndani na nje ya nchi @omarilyas
     
  2. majuto mperungu01

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    when I do they close
    their eyes. When I don't they
    open their mouths

    over
     
  3. Root

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    Kasema ukweli
     
  4. POMPO

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    Mbona hakemei hata mauwaji yanayofanywa na policcm? MoU na TISS itamtesa sana... Majibu ya kinafiki
    "I am in Sri Lanka for a Commonwealth Parliamentary Association meeting. Also reading and writing - my favourites" ulipataje link ya kushiriki huko? a meeting? miezi miwili....? kituko ni reading and writing...Mnafiki
     
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    Zitto has got to be serious. In any step as you go up and up the stairs you can't say "now I have to stop" pulling others up. It is their turn now to pay tribute, they too must bear the burden of pulling me up". How comes he dares say that while he is still a vibrant guy? Come on Zitto, stop playing dirt.
     
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    zumbemkuu JF Bronze Member

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    hii sayansi ya kuumba herufi inastaajabisha dunia sana, kila mwanzo wa maovu na mifarakano ni uumbaji wa herufi.
     
  7. Uhalisia Jr

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    Mi napita tu vijana
     
  8. POMPO

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    MwanaHALISI limegundua.Taarifa zilizopatikana kutoka ndani ya idara hiyo zinaeleza kuwa vigogo hao wana mahusiano ya karibu na Naibu Katibu Mkuu wa CHADEMA, Zitto Kabwe.

    Anayetajwa rasmi kuwa na mahusiano na Zitto ni Naibu Mkurugenzi wa TISS, Jack Zoka.
    Kufichuka kwa taarifa za kuwapo "uswahiba" kati ya Zoka na Zitto kumekuja katika kipindi ambacho CHADEMA kimekuwa kikituhumu maofisa wa juu wa usalama wa taifa kuvuruga uchaguzi mkuu uliopita.

    Aidha, kuibuka kwa tuhuma hizi kumekuja wiki moja baada ya gazeti hili kuchapisha taarifa mbalimbali za mawasiliano kati ya Zitto na Rais Jakaya Kikwete.

    Baadhi ya mawasiliano hayo, ambayo Zitto ameyapeleka kwa rais, aliyapeleka pia kwa baadhi ya watuhumiwa ufisadi nchini.
    Kwa mujibu wa mgombea urais wa CHADEMA, Dk. Willibrod Slaa ambaye alitangazwa kushika nafasi ya pili nyuma ya Rais Kikwete; viongozi wa TISS walihusika, kwa kiasi kikubwa, katika kile alichoita, "Kuchakachua matokeo ya uchaguzi."

    MwanaHALISI limefanikiwa kupata rekodi ya mshororo wa mawasiliano kati ya Zitto na Zoka.
    Kuna mwingiliano wa simu za mdomo na maandishi (sms) kutoka kwa Zitto kwenda kwa baadhi ya vigogo wa ngazi ya juu serikalini na TISS, hasa Zoka.

    Nyaraka za mawasiliano zinaonyesha kuwa Zitto amekuwa akiwasiliana na naibu mtendaji mkuu wa TISS huyo zaidi ya mara tatu kwa siku.

    Kwa mfano, Zitto na Zoka walifanya mawasiliano ya simu mara tisa hapo tarehe 8 Agosti. Simu iliyotumika katika mawasilino hayo, ni Na. +255756809535 ambayo hutumiwa na Zitto na +255754787550 ambayo hutumiwa na Zoka.
    Wakati mawasiliano hayo yanafanyika, Zitto alikuwa katika maeneo tofauti.

    Mawasiliano ya kwanza kati ya Zitto na Zoka yalipokuwa yanafanyika, simu ya Zitto ilisomeka kuwa alikuwa katika maeneo mbalimbali.

    Mathalani, wakati mwingine simu ilikuwa ikisomeka kuwa yuko Mtambani, Kinondoni Dar es Salaam, Kigoma Urban (Mjini), Kigoma Rural (Vijijini), Mtwara, Uwanja wa ndege-Ilala, Oyster Bay, Ukonga, Upanga na katikati ya mji.

    Gazeti hili halikuweza kugundua mara moja undani wa mawasiliano ya Zitto na Zoka.
    Kinachofanya baadhi ya wachunguzi wa mambo kujenga shaka ni kwamba mmoja ni mwanasiasa, tena kutoka chama kilichopo nje ya utawala; na mwingine ni mtumishi wa idara ya usalama inayolalamikiwa kukandamiza upinzani nchini.

    Hata hivyo, taarifa zinaonyesha kuwa mawasiliano kati ya Zitto na Zoka yalianza kupamba moto kuanzia tarehe 6 Agosti 2010, siku moja baada ya CHADEMA kuzindua kampeni zake za urais.

    Kulingana na uchunguzi, siku hiyo, tarehe 6 Agosti, simu ya Zitto ilisomeka kuwa yuko Kigoma Urban.
    Katika mkutano wa ufunguzi wa kampeni, CHADEMA kupitia kada wake mashuhuri, Mabere Marando, iliibuka na lundo la tuhuma dhidi ya vigogo kadhaa wa serikali, CCM na idara ya usalama wa taifa.

    Akizungumza na maelfu ya wananchi katika viwanja vya Jangwani, Dar es Salaam, Marando alisema wizi wa fedha katika Akaunti ya Madeni ya Nje (EPA), ndani ya Benki Kuu ya taifa (BoT), ulifanywa na serikali na washirika wake.

    Miongoni mwa vigogo aliodai kuwa walihusika kufanikisha wizi huo, ni rais wa sasa, Jakaya Kikwete, rais mstaafu Benjamin Mkapa, mbunge wa Igunga, Rostam Aziz na Edward Lowassa.

    Akiongea kwa kujiamini, Marando alisema, "fedha za EPA ni wizi uliotiwa baraka na serikali ya CCM na ndio uliomsaidia rais Kikwete kuingia madarakani mwaka 2005."

    Kuanzia hapo hadi sasa, Zitto na Zoka wamekuwa na mawasilino ya mara kwa mara, na karibu kila siku huzungumza kwa simu.
    Mawasiliano mengine ya mara kwa mara yalifanyika tarehe 7 Agosti 2010, siku mbili tangu hotuba kali ya Jangwani. Yalianza saa 10:17 na kuendelea tena saa 10:50, saa 10:51:31, saa 11:46:13, saa 12: 14:46, saa 12:26:48 na saa 13:50: 21.

    Lakini Zitto alipoulizwa kuhusu sababu ya yeye kufanya mawasiliano ya mara kwa mara na vigogo wa TISS, alisema hajui na hakumbuki lolote kuhusu kuwapo mawasiliano hayo na Zoka au mkuu yeyote wa idara hiyo.

    Zitto amesema yeye, akiwa mwanasiasa na kiongozi, anazungumza na watu wengi kutoka katika taasisi na mashirika mbalimbali ndani na nje ya nchi, lakini hajui kitu kuhusu usalama wa taifa.

    Alipobanwa kuhusu mazungumzo yake na Zoka, hasa yale ya 3 Novemba 2010, saa nne na dakika 56 asubuhi, siku mbili baada ya uchaguzi kumalizika, Zitto alisema, "Siku hiyo nilizungumza na watu wengi sana. Siwakumbuki ni akina nani hasa."

    Alisema, "Hicho ndicho kipindi ambacho matokeo ya uchaguzi nchini kote yalikuwa yakizuiwa ikiwamo kwetu Kigoma. Na ukumbuke mimi nilipigwa mabomu na polisi na usalama wa taifa. Nakumbuka viongozi wengi wa vyombo vya ulinzi na usalama walinipigia simu kunijulia hali na kupata taarifa ya kilichotokea," anaeleza.

    "Sasa kama Zoka naye alinipigia siku hiyo sikumbuki; lakini nilipigiwa na wengi…Naomba uniambie kitu, hivi mnachokitafuta hasa ni nini?" aliuliza.

    Katika njia ya kujitetea, Zitto aliuliza, "Mwanasiasa kuongea na wakuu wa vyombo vya usalama ni kosa? Maana, hata kama ningekuwa nimezungumza naye, kosa langu liko wapi?" alieleza mbunge huyo wa Kigoma Kaskazini.

    Alipoelezwa kuwa haoni hiyo ni hujuma dhidi ya chama chake kwa kuzungumza na viongozi wa TISS na kile ambacho amekuwa akikizungumza kikiwa hakifahamiki kwa viongozi wake, Zitto alisema, "Sijawahi kukihujumu chama changu mahali popote, siku yoyote."

    Jitihada za gazeti hili kuzungumza na Zoka hazikufanikiwa katika kipindi chote
    cha mwishoni mwa wiki, kwa vile kila alipopigiwa, simu yake ya mkononi ilikuwa haipokelewi.

    Hata ujumbe mfupi wa maneno uliotumwa kwenye simu yake saa 2:53 asubuhi ya Jumapili; ukieleza sababu za gazeti kuzungumza naye, haukujibiwa.

    Aidha, tarehe 2 Novemba, siku moja baada ya kuzungumza na Zitto, Zoka alinukuliwa akikana madai ya Dk. Slaa, kuwa TISS imesaidia kuvuruga uchaguzi.

    Katika taarifa yake aliyoitoa mbele ya waandishi wa habari, ofisini kwake jijini Dar es Salaam, Zoka alisema, "Dk. Slaa amekuwa akidanganywa na watu wanaojiita maofisa wa usalama wa taifa."

    Hata hivyo, kuna meseji mbalimbali kuhusu udini na uamuzi wa CHADEMA kususia hotuba ya rais Kikwete ambazo zilitumwa na Zitto kwa baadhi ya wabunge wa CHADEMA ambazo zinadaiwa kuandaliwa na idara ya usalama wataifa.

    Ujumbe huo unadaiwa kuandaliwa kwa ustadi mkubwa katika kukuza suala la udini na kuleta mtafaruku katika chama.
     
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    Give the guy a break. Wandugu kila siku Zitto...Zitto. Nayeye ana maisha yake na mitizamo yake.
     
  10. fugees

    fugees JF-Expert Member

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    Hizi lawama kwa jembe kamanda hazina mashiko tunajua alicho kimaanisha kwamba gharama alizo tumia kujenga chama sio kidogo. Babo tuna imani na ww jembe kaza haya maroroso kwako mengne ni magamba wanachomekea.
     
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    kingxvi JF-Expert Member

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    tatizo chadema imeshavamiwa na watu wanaopenda kuonekana kila muda
     
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    fugees JF-Expert Member

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    sana tu!
     
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    Caroline Danzi JF-Expert Member

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    Akienda CCM nini tatizo? Tulimshauri kujiunga na CDM? KIla mtu ana hisia zake, maisha yake, utashi wake. Masilahi mbele! Be blessed Zitto. Focus kwenye mambo yanayokufanya uwepo, usiangalie makengeza! lol
     
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    SMU JF-Expert Member

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    Hatari sana kuwa na viongozi wanaofikiri namna hii. Ni utoto, ulimbukeni ama ni nini?
     
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    Ileje JF-Expert Member

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    Kwa nini Zitto? Hivi bila Zitto kusema au kufanya jambo ni usaliti?

    Nadhani kila chama kina taratibu na mikakati yake katika kufanikisha mambo! Haiwezekani kila mtu awe msemaji wa chama! Slaa akisema jambo ni chama kimesema kwa kuwa yeye ndiye katibu mkuu na Zitto akisema pia ni chama kimesema lakini tofauti ni kuwa Zitto atakuwa amesema kwa ridhaa ya Slaa - katibu mkuu!

    Aidha moja ya mbinu maarufu katika mapambano ni kuwa si makamanda wote wanakwenda mstari wa mbele, bali wengine hubaki nyuma ili endapo kutatokea majeruhi basi hawa waliobaki nyuma waweze kuchukuwa nafasi zao na kuendeleza mapambano!

    Chukua mfano wa Marekani, wakati wa kuapishwa rais mpya waziri wa ulinzi huwa hahudhurii sherehe hizo na huwa mafichoni ili endapo kutatokea hujuma na rais anayeapishwa akauawa basi waziri huyu ambaye ni wa serikali inayoondoka madarakani aweze kushika hatamu na kuimarisha usalama!

    Mwacheni Zitto atimize wajibu wake!
     
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    unknown animal JF-Expert Member

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    kama wewe hivi,na ukae ukijua hatutokutambua
     
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    Guy gotta lot of grudges he can't help it!
     
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    cement JF-Expert Member

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    Ww ndo mtoto usiyejua kwani sio kweli??
    Mbona vitu viko wazi tu kwa nn asiseme yy na Dk slaa ndo watu wanaopaswa kuheshimiwa sanaaaaa ndani ya cdm ww umejua siasa wapi?umaarufu umekuja baada ya Zitto na Dr Slaa kuibuka tuhuma za Richmond!hebu mumuacha Zitto nae ni binadamu kwani Cdm mbona hawalalamiki mpk nyie wa mbaliiii ndo muanze!
    Walio ndani ya uwanja wa mpira ndo huwa wanajua mchango wa kila mchezaji!
     
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    sembuli JF-Expert Member

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    kazi ya utabiri ni ngumu, Lakini kwa kauli hizi za zitto, ni rahisi sana kutabiri "his fate "ndani ya cdm
     
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    EmeraldEme Senior Member

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    He has done a lot, and still, it ain't the end of the race, He is still doing his part, watu wamegawana majukumu, kila mtu kagaiwa la kwake, muacheni Zitto jamani. Jaribuni ku deal na mambo mengine. The more mnamsema unreasonably the more mnamuongezea credits, kuna watu ambao nao pia wana reason.
     
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