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Chadema ni chama cha SIASA.............

Discussion in 'Jukwaa la Siasa' started by Sokomoko, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. Sokomoko

    Sokomoko JF-Expert Member

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    Ndugu zanguni wanaJF especialo ma - great thinkers.

    Kuna swala moja linanisumbua sana naomba ufafanuzi nadhani pengine kuna kitu kina miss ndani ya chadema. Nimekuwa kwa mfano nimekuwa nikititatizwa na mfumo wa demokrasia kwenye uteuzi wa nafasi mbalimbali hususan za "viti maalum" ambapo hakukuwa na demokrasia ila kupewa mtu jukumu la kuwateua wawakilishi kupitia kapu la "viti maalum" nadhani tafsiri ya viti maalum pengine kina mhe Mkumbo wanatumia nafasi hizi maalumu kuwapa watu maalum ndani ya chama. Wote tunawafahamu wanamama maalum ndani ya Chadema ambao ni aghalabu kukosa nafasi hizo "maalum" maana wao ni "maalum" ndani ya chama. Na ni Chadema pekee ndio kina record ya kuingiza Bungeni Baba, mtoto na mkwe kwenye bunge japo baba anapambana kuingia bungeni lakini mtoto na mkwe wamehakikishiwa nafasi hiyo au pengine "bila kupingwa".

    Nayasema hayo yote ili tuache unafiki! unafiki unakiua chama angalie unafiki unaofanywa na chama tawala oneni hasira za wananchi kwenye uchaguzi uliomalizika. Hayo mafanikio yaliokipata Chadema yametokana na unafiki ndani ya CCM na taratibu za kupendeleana. Sote mashahidi tumeona yaliyomkuta Mwakalabela na Bashe wapo wengi lakini huo ni mfano tu ambao kwa kiasi kikubwa umeweza kunufaisha Chadema. Sipendi Chadema ifate mule ambapo CCM imepita. Napenda kuona Chadema kinakuwa chama imara na kimbilio la wanyonge maana juu ya ukweli kwamba CCM imebakiwa na watu wachache wenye uchungu ( na hii ni kutokana na kuwa hakuna chama mbadala ) Chadema kinatakiwa kionyeshe kuwa kinaweza kuwa chama mbadala kiache baadhi ya mambo yake ambayo yamejengeka kama mazowea.

    Hakuna budi ukafika wakati kujenga viongozi wawe wanasiasa wenye ueledi wa siasa maana tatizo jingine kubwa ndani ya Chadema hakuna wanasiasa na kama wapo basi wa kuhesabika. Wengi wao ni wanaharakati. Tofauti yao ni kuwa wanaharakati wao wanapohitajia kitu hutumia njia za kugoma na kulazimisha ( mfano wakitaka mvua inyeshe basi hata kama hakuna wingu ni lazima inyeshe ) hawawezi kusubiri wingu ili mvua inyeshe lakini wanasiasa wao mara nyingi wanaendesha mambo kidiplomasia zaidi wanafuata process mpaka azma yao inafanikiwa. Ndani ya Chadema tumewashuhudia wanasiasa wanapotoa mawazo yao au wakifanya jambo linavyochukuliwa kwa hisia tofauti na baadhi ya viongozi ambao ni wanaharakati na wamewalisha wanachama kasumba sawia na yao. Utaaona kuwa mwasiasa Zitto Kabwe anavyosakamwa kwa baadhi ya mambo anayoyafanya au mwasiasa John Shibuda anavyotolewa maneno mabaya kwa kusalimiana na Rais! Nina uhakika ndani ya CCM kuna wanaotofautiana mambo na chama chao na hili hupelekea siri nyingi za vikao kuvuja jambo ambalo hapo zamani ilikuwa ni aghalabu kutokea. Hii ina maana kila mtu ana mawazo yake na lazima yaheshimiwe.

    Kwa kumalizia napenda kusema Chadema kiwaachie harakati makundi ya kijamii wao wajikite kwenye kukuza chama na kuikalia serikali kooni bungeni ili iweze kuleta tija kwenye majimbo na Tanzania kwa ujumla. Haya ni maoni yangu na kwa kutambua uhuru nategemea kila mmoja wetu atoe maoni yake kwa ajili ya kujenga chama wakati umefika tusisubiri kutokee matatizo ndio tutoe maoni yetu.



     
  2. Ng'wanangwa

    Ng'wanangwa JF-Expert Member

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    crap of the day
     
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    Albedo JF-Expert Member

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    Tatizo Mkuu watu hawachangii post zako kwa sababu zimejaa Propaganda na Provocative Language, Ku duplicate Topic zako wala hakutadraw attention za Watu Makini humu Jamvini
     
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    kiraia JF Gold Member

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    Wewe na Malaria Sugu ni mapacha tena identical
     
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    Awo JF-Expert Member

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    As far as I am concerned you are supposed to be "dead" as you are already kneeling down!! Umeng'ang'ania sana viti maalum vya CHADEMA. Umeelezwa utaratibu uliotumika ulikubaliwa kwenye vikao halali, lakini mwenzetu hutaki kuelewa, umeng'ang'ania tu kupiga magoti na kufa hutaki!
     
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    Ndibalema JF-Expert Member

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    Imefikia kipindi post ikirushwa tu anaangaliwa aliyeanzisha.
    "kumbe sokomoko! aah! kumbe Malaria sugu!!"
    inapotezewa.
     
  7. Albedo

    Albedo JF-Expert Member

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    Nimependezwa na Calmness ya Viongozi wa CHADEMA, inawaumiza sana CCM hawajui CHADEMA watakuja Kivipi so wanakuja hapa na Kutoa Provocative Language ili wajue ni nini hasa Msimamo na next Move ya CHADEMA

    Ufupi ni kwamba wana KIHORO
     
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    RedDevil JF-Expert Member

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    Duh, kwa vile unapenda kuuliza the swali lile lile basi majibu utapata mengi na tofauti, ( The same question which was asked last year if repeated this year may have completely different answers - By Albert Einstein)

    Kwanza, kama ulifuatilia toka mwanzo jinsi uchaguzi ulivyoanza kulikuwa na mamluki ndani ya vikao vyao waliokuwa wamepandikizwa, Pili kulikuwa na mvutano kidogo katika namna ya kupata hivyo viti maalumu kwa hiyo kamati kuu ya chama ikakaa na kupendekeza namna nyingine ya kuwapata. Kwa hiyo mwisho wa siku ndo ikawa imependekezwa hiyo njia ambayo wajumbe walikubaliana.

    Hata hivyo mkuu, ukifuatilia saaana unaweza kupata mchele na pumba sasa ni juu yako kuchukua unachotaka.
     
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    bojuka Senior Member

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    unaaandika vitu gani ?
     
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    Sokomoko JF-Expert Member

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    Asante sana mkuu......
     
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    Sokomoko JF-Expert Member

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    Haijalishi nitasema sitanyamaza kwakuwa mimi ni mtu huru na nina uhuru wa kutoa maoni yangu, kama wewe unavyotoa maoni yako kwa kunifananisha mimi na malaria sugu. Ila ukweli utabaki palepale.......
     
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    gomezirichard Member

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    Hujakatazwa kusema ila angalia mambo ya kusema wakati mwingine sokomoko

    mzee gomezi
     
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    Froida JF-Expert Member

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    Duuh umejitahidi lakini hakuna tija kwenye waraka wako huo tunataka ushauri wa kujenga sio kila wakati unazusha udhaifu tuu
     
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    Froida JF-Expert Member

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    uhuru lazima uwe na mipaka
     
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    GeniusBrain JF-Expert Member

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    Kwa maana hiyo mwataka kutuambia kuwa hii JF ni ya viongozi wa CHADEMA ?, kama iko hivyo basi tumepoteza mwelekeo wetu aisee. Sie kama GREAT THINKERS hatutakiwi ku-base upande wowote ule, tuwe tuna analyse na kutoa maoni yenu for the betterment ya watanzania wote bila kujali chama, dini, rangi, kabila au mkoa.
     
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    Jatropha JF-Expert Member

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    je wale viti maalum wa kwenu ccm ambao mmewabana mpaka asasi za kiraia kwa kumpitisha rit malaki na anna abdallah ilihali hat siku moja hatujawahi kuwasiki wakifanya lolote katika assi za kiraiana wafanyakazi mmepitisha mtoto wa kawawa ambaye hajawahi kuwa kiongozi wa tucta, mbona huulizi hayo?
     
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    GeniusBrain JF-Expert Member

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    Tuliisha tambua CHADEMA tangu zamani. CHADEMA kuna UDINI, UKABILA, UPENDELEO WA WAZI WAZI KM VITI MAALUM WALIVYOFANYA NA HAKUNA UHURU WA MAWAZO KM WANAVYOTAKA KUFANYA WAKINA ZITTO NA SHIBUDA
     
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    DOUGLAS SALLU JF-Expert Member

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    Hivi kumbe Chadema ndiyo kile chama kimeahidi kuanzisha Mahakama ya Kadhi na kuisilimisha nchi kwa kuingiza OIC? Aisee nilikuwa sijui kama ni hivyo kweli Chadema kuna udini.
     
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    Hahahhahaahah jamani hizi ni siasa za kuibomoa chadema au?
     
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    DENYO JF-Expert Member

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    Sokomoko huna nafasi hapa jamvini unatia kichefuchefu kajadilianeni na makamba hapa ni forum ya wanamapinduzi watanzania waliobahatika kusoma wanapashana habari na kujua namna gani wasonge mbele nenda kwa mkwere akakwere au kwa makamba aliyekutuma chukua time
     
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