Rais Moi kupelekwa mahakamani tena!

Ab-Titchaz · Nov 17, 2012

Rubia plans to sue Moi over torture

Two of the fathers of opposition politics in Kenya, Mr Kenneth Matiba (left) and Mr Charles Rubia. Mr Charles Rubia intends file a case against Mr Moi on Monday to demand compensation for alleged torture and mistreatment. Photo/FILE

Former President Daniel Arap Moi will yet again face the courts over human rights abuses meted on politicians during his tenure.

Veteran multi-party crusader Charles Rubia intends file a case against Mr Moi on Monday to demand compensation for alleged torture and mistreatment.

In a suit by lawyer Irungu Kang'ata, the former Starehe MP says he was arrested on July 4, 1990 by special branch officers acting on instructions from Mr Moi, tortured and exposed to inhuman conditions.

Mr Rubia wants the court to declare that his rights and freedom were violated by police officers and, therefore, entitled to compensation.

The politician also wants Mr Moi and the government to refund all the medical expenses he has incurred as a result of the torture. However, he does not ask for a specific amount.

Saturday Nation had earlier learnt that former Cabinet minister Kenneth Matiba will be enjoined in the case, but the suit papers did not contain his grievances.

The suit will come five months after former Alego Usonga MP Otieno Mak'Onyango was awarded Sh20 million after he sued Mr Moi for similar grievances.

Rubia plans to sue Moi over torture - Politics - nation.co.ke

RR · Nov 17, 2012

Kama kuna mtu niliyedhani atashtakiwa mara tu atokapo madarakani basi ni Mtukufu Rias Daniel Toroitich Arap Moi....the self declared proffesor of African politics....
I think he made a deal with Kibaki or something!

livefire · Nov 17, 2012

RR said:
Kama kuna mtu niliyedhani atashtakiwa mara tu atokapo madarakani basi ni Mtukufu Rias Daniel Toroitich Arap Moi....the self declared proffesor of African politics....
I think he made a deal with Kibaki or something!

guy is untouchable. Arrest him at your own peril, the police wont dare mule about such a thought even if justification suffices. His son was never arrested, you wonder why? He was was the C-i-C for 24 years. The military per se' accords this man alot of respect. For instance during '02 elections, the military was ready to stand by the man notwithstanding the losing margins. By choice, the ageing president did the honorable thing and handed over power bloodlessly. And btw he is accorded same privilledges still.

Edzeame · Nov 18, 2012

RR said:
Kama kuna mtu niliyedhani atashtakiwa mara tu atokapo madarakani basi ni Mtukufu Rias Daniel Toroitich Arap Moi....the self declared proffesor of African politics....
I think he made a deal with Kibaki or something!

Tafadhali let the old man rest in his retirement, kenya has more problems to think about other than witchhunts

RR · Nov 18, 2012

Edzeame said:
Tafadhali let the old man rest in his retirement, kenya has more problems to think about other than witchhunts

Really?
Even if someone was executed under his orders...

Genekai · Nov 18, 2012

Unlike us Tanzanians, Kenyans will always mean business!!!!!

chash · Nov 18, 2012

Moi is a man amongo the men. Hawa wanaojidai viongozi sasa hivi na presidential hopefuls walikuwa wanamuabudu na kumnyenyekea ki -omba omba style, ati prince of peace, mtukufu, nk, ndio sabab wanangangania hicho kiti wakidhani itakuwa hivyo tena. Hakusubutu kusema yeyote licha Raila, ndiye mwanaume aliye baki pekee.

Edzeame · Nov 23, 2012

RR said:
Really?
Even if someone was executed under his orders...

Let us take this opportunity and freedom to build and develop our own countries, na siyo kuchonganishwa na watu wa bara ulaya.

Ab-Titchaz · Nov 23, 2012

Edzeame said:
...siyo kuchonganishwa na watu wa bara ulaya.

Sasa Matiba na Rubia kudai haki yao ishakua ni watu wa bara ulaya tena? Mbona haueleweki?

...Moi strode this land like the Colossus of Rhodes stepping on people as if they were non eixistent.
Now justice is catching up with him hebu wacha azikize mziki polepole na alipe watu fidia.

...The myth of the Big Man Syndrome has been shattered and all leaders need to be careful how they
govern their citizenry otherwise their injustices will always come back to haunt them.

mfianchi · Nov 23, 2012

Kwa siasa za Kenya zilivyo,ningekuwa na uwezo Mzee moi angeendelea kuwa raisi hadi kifo chake,wengi wa wanasiasa wa Kenya ni wa hovyo hovyo sana,hebu mniambie hao akina Raila,Uhuru,Musyoka,Mudavadi,Ruto(kusema na kutenda)si madikteta wakubwa,wanalazamisha watu wa makabila yao kuwa ni lazima wawafuate,na hapo hawajakuwa ma prezidaa bado?Nampenda Moi kawaletea wa Kenya maendeleo makubwa hasa kwenye elimu,namuona Kagame kama mwanafunzi mzuri wa Moi ingawa si mkenya na hajawahi kuwa na Moi

Edzeame · Nov 23, 2012

Ab-Titchaz said:
Sasa Matiba na Rubia kudai haki yao ishakua ni watu wa bara ulaya tena? Mbona haueleweki?

...Moi strode this land like the Colossus of Rhodes stepping on people as if they were non eixistent.
Now justice is catching up with him hebu wacha azikize mziki polepole na alipe watu fidia.

...The myth of the Big Man Syndrome has been shattered and all leaders need to be careful how they
govern their citizenry otherwise their injustices will always come back to haunt them.

As they say siasa ni kama mawindo, if you fight to hunt for a cake you should focus until the end and not lose focus or you will hunt for others to chew, i am against impunity and any other bad vices, otherwise I know Moi did a good thing to stifle matiba and rubia though the tactics were not good;
I even praise moi bcoz he prevented raila from staging a coup attempt, though the detention thing is unacceptible.

Dhuks · Nov 23, 2012

mfianchi said:
Kwa siasa za Kenya zilivyo,ningekuwa na uwezo Mzee moi angeendelea kuwa raisi hadi kifo chake,wengi wa wanasiasa wa Kenya ni wa hovyo hovyo sana,hebu mniambie hao akina Raila,Uhuru,Musyoka,Mudavadi,Ruto(kusema na kutenda)si madikteta wakubwa,wanalazamisha watu wa makabila yao kuwa ni lazima wawafuate,na hapo hawajakuwa ma prezidaa bado?Nampenda Moi kawaletea wa Kenya maendeleo makubwa hasa kwenye elimu,namuona Kagame kama mwanafunzi mzuri wa Moi ingawa si mkenya na hajawahi kuwa na Moi

I would rather those you are calling dictators than Moi, give the old man respect but the old man believed in himself too much. He is a stark contrast with Kibaki who believes in delegating and delegates to the point of mistaking him for having no concern but think of all the civil liberties Kenyans have had under Kibaki and we would not have gotten half of them if Moi was succeeded by a domineering president.

Maendeleo unayosema yaliletwa na Moi yataje hapa JF tuyajue.

Ab-Titchaz · Nov 23, 2012

mfianchi said:
Kwa siasa za Kenya zilivyo,ningekuwa na uwezo Mzee moi angeendelea kuwa raisi hadi kifo chake,

Afazali huna uwezo huo jamani!

Ab-Titchaz · Nov 23, 2012

Edzeame said:
....i am against impunity and any other bad vices, otherwise I know Moi did a good thing to stifle matiba and rubia though the tactics were not good...

I even praise moi bcoz he prevented raila from staging a coup attempt, though the detention thing is unacceptible.

These are two oxymoronic statements within the same quote....oil and water do not mix!

Ab-Titchaz · Nov 23, 2012

RR said:
Kama kuna mtu niliyedhani atashtakiwa mara tu atokapo madarakani basi ni Mtukufu Rias Daniel Toroitich Arap Moi....the self declared proffesor of African politics....
I think he made a deal with Kibaki or something!

Wote wawili ni wezi wa mashamba na ndo maana wanafaana katika hali kama hii.

RR · Nov 23, 2012

Ab-Titchaz said:
Wote wawili ni wezi wa mashamba na ndo maana wanafaana katika hali kama hii.

Yap.....
Kibaka isn't very clean as well, japo nadhan hajaua.

Edzeame · Nov 24, 2012

Ab-Titchaz said:
These are two oxymoronic statements within the same quote....oil and water do not mix!

Calm down, I do not support what moi did during his 24 year reign that is off the book with respect to leadership. I respect moi because he was able to keep polarized politics at the edges until kibaki took power, after which the horns of tribal bastions dangerously found freedom to aim..

Arushaone · Nov 29, 2012

Headline is misleading for the head of state is NOT RAIS MOI but FORMER PRESIDENT, let bygone be bygone Mr Rabia. Just forgive and forget. Please stay away from the courts' doors. Wote ni wazee sasa, visasi vya ujanani na vikome.

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