Proposed building "design standards" legislation

Shoctopus · May 13, 2016

There are reports of a proposed law whose purpose will be to ensure that architects and engineers conduct their businesses in line with specified standards or guidelines.

If this is true, I am afraid it will be the beginning of the end of architecture as a creative profession in TZ.

Some of the questions the proponents of such legislation must ask themselves are:

Who will set the said standards and guidelines? Is it the TZ Parliament or the ERB, the AQRB?

What will be the basis of such legislation considering the fact that buildings are designed according to various needs and factors?

Are these guys proposing a single solution for everything, everywhere and for everyone? What's this, if its not a heep of BS?

moto nkali · Jun 8, 2016

haaa haaa haaa

jerrytz · Jun 21, 2016

that's not new, everywhere in the world construction industry follows certain set of guidelines or specified standards agreed by by the stakeholders of construction industry ; engineers, Architects, Real estate developers, Quantity Surveyors, Project Managers etc.
Unless these guidelines will be different from what other countries adopted in construction industry.

Shoctopus · Jun 22, 2016

jerrytz said:
that's not new, everywhere in the world construction industry follows certain set of guidelines or specified standards agreed by by the stakeholders of construction industry ; engineers, Architects, Real estate developers, Quantity Surveyors, Project Managers etc.
Unless these guidelines will be different from what other countries adopted in construction industry.

I'm afraid your last sentese does not show the direction of your reply, and defeats your own opening argument!
Are you bytheway sir, in reference to "industry" talking about construction contracts/projects? If so, you may or may not be right, but strictly speaking it (your argument) cannot be right with regards to architectural and engineering design per se! The Lusindes and Majimarefus or even the 'profesa chapatis' of the JMT's Parliament indeed! Could never be the right place to regulate or create your so called "standards & guidelines" for architects & engineers etc.; who must themselves be equipped with the qualifications and knowledge to do their businesses, period. Otherwise, and if their respective professional aboards and/or associations, as well as the city engineers fail to do their duty of enforcement of standards and guidelines they should be made accountable one way or another. That's the bottom line, and that's where the government should start with, in finding the cure for substandard construction. Let parliament do the politics, please!

jerrytz · Jun 22, 2016

Shoctopus said:
I'm afraid your last sentese does not show the direction of your reply, and defeats your own opening argument!
Are you bytheway sir, in reference to "industry" talking about construction contracts/projects? If so, you may or may not be right, but strictly speaking it (your argument) cannot be right with regards to architectural and engineering design per se! The Lusindes and Majimarefus or even the 'profesa chapatis' of the JMT's Parliament indeed! Could never be the right place to regulate or create your so called "standards & guidelines" for architects & engineers etc.; who must themselves be equipped with the qualifications and knowledge to do their businesses, period. Otherwise, and if their respective professional aboards and/or associations, as well as the city engineers fail to do their duty of enforcement of standards and guidelines they should be made accountable one way or another. That's the bottom line, and that's where the government should start with, in finding the cure for substandard construction. Let parliament do the politics, please!

That's "unless" was to answer your doubts about the incompetence of those who will establish the standards and the guidelines.
At least we agree that it is not bad to have standards or guidelines.
From your argument, you are "worried" about the competence of the lawmakers, certainly we are on the same side.
Leaving the task of politicians to decide the on professional matters is not healthy for the development of the construction sector.

Shoctopus · Jun 22, 2016

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jerrytz said:
That's "unless" was to answer your doubts about the incompetence of those who will establish the standards and the guidelines.
At least we agree that it is not bad to have standards or guidelines.
From your argument, you are "worried" about the competence of the lawmakers, certainly we are on the same side.
Leaving the task of politicians to decide the on professional matters is not healthy for the development of the construction sector.

Thanks, but did I say I was worried? You seem to be struggling hard to sound relevant! Unfortunately you could be making a ..... of yourself in the processes. Have a nice day sir!

Zeddicus Zu'l Zorander · Jun 22, 2016

Ngoja nitafute chai kwanza maana kizungu kinachopigwa hapa sio mchezo.

xaracter · Jun 22, 2016

I don't see a problem not only design and architecture ,most professional trades are regulated the world over.

CHAZA · Jun 22, 2016

Sasa kwani Act ya mwaka 1997 mbona imeweka mambo hayo yote. Code of Ethics and Conducts zipo hapo ni maboresho tu ambayo kwa mtu ambaye ni makini hawez kuhofia chochote

jerrytz · Jun 23, 2016

CHAZA said:
Sasa kwani Act ya mwaka 1997 mbona imeweka mambo hayo yote. Code of Ethics and Conducts zipo hapo ni maboresho tu ambayo kwa mtu ambaye ni makini hawez kuhofia chochote

Wakati mwingine ugeni katika fani ndio tatizo.

Haya mambo yalikuwepo way back, hata mimi sioni hofu inatoka wapi.

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