Only Science is a true messenger of God

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kahtaan said:
Then if you do! i will remind one thing!

THERE IS A FAITH CALLED "ISLAM",

This faith make it very clear in regards to HOMOSEXUALS!!

IF CONVICTED IN THE COURT OF LAW IN THE MUSLIM COUNTRY" ITS CAPITAL PUNISHMENT" thats it! no ifs and buts!!
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Ha ha ha ha, let us prove your words/claims if they are airtight:

We know Muhammad was married but he also liked young boys.It was the practice in his days. It is alaso in the Quran. Here is the proof

Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 143
Narrated Anas bin Malik:

The Prophet said to Abu Talha, "Choose one of your boy servants to serve me in my expedition to Khaibar." So, Abu Talha took me letting me ride behind him while I was a boy nearing the age of puberty. I used to serve Allah's Apostle when he stopped to rest. I heard him saying repeatedly, "O Allah! I seek refuge with You from distress and sorrow, from helplessness and laziness, from miserliness and cowardice, from being heavily in debt and from being overcome by men."

Hadith Number 16245, Volume Title: "The Sayings of the Syrians," Chapter Title: "Hadith of Mu'awiya Ibn Abu Sufyan": "I saw the prophet – pbuh – sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire)

She also said, "On a later day we requested a wet nurse for him (Ali) but he refused her breast so we called for Muhammad – pbuh – WHO PLACED HIS TONGUE IN ALI'S MOUTH and he fell asleep. This is the way it was as Allah willed it."

Explain to JF what was happening?
 

Let us examine the credibility of these words of your God Mr Kahtaan:
Al Baqarah Ayah 190. And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits. 191. And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

The Qur'an says that man was created from a clot of blood.

Qur'an 96:1. Proclaim (or Read) In the Name Of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created- 2. Created man out of A (mere) clot Of congealed blood;

The Qur'an says that man was created from was created from clay.

Qur'an 6:2 (Also 7:12) 2. He it is Who created You from clay, and then Decreed a stated term (For you). And there is In His Presence another Determined term; yet Ye doubt within yourselves!

The Qur'an says that man was created from was created from water.

Qur'an 25:54. It is He Who has Created man from water: Then has He established Relationships of lineage And marriage: for thy Lord Has power (over all things).

These are internal contradictions that indicate the origin of the Qur'an was not the mind of Almighty God, but the mind of man, Muhammad. I urge you to seek the truth instead of foooling yourself with these empty promises such as these ones:

Qur'an 37: 40. But the sincere (and devoted) Servants of Allah, 41. For them is a Sustenance Determined, 42. Fruits (Delights) and they (Shall enjoy) honor and dignity, 43. In Gardens of Felicity, 44. Facing each other On Thrones (of dignity): 45. Round will be passed To them a Cup From a clear flowing fountain, 46. Crystal white, of a taste Delicious to those Who drink (thereof), 47. Free from headiness; Nor will they suffer Intoxication there from. 48. And beside them will be Chaste women, restraining Their glances, with big eyes (Of wonder and beauty) 49. As if they were (Delicate) eggs closely guarded.​
Qur'an 4:57. But those who believe And do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, With rivers flowing beneath, - Their eternal home; Therein shall they have Companions [wives, NR] pure and holy; We shall admit them To shades, cool and ever deepening.​
Qur'an 44:51. As to the Righteous (They will be) in A position of Security, 52. Among Gardens and Springs; 53. Dressed in fine silk And in rich brocade, They will face each other; 54. So; and We shall Join them to Companions With beautiful big And lustrous eyes. 55. There can they call For every kind of fruit In peace and security; 56. Nor will they there Taste Death, except the first Death: and He will preserve Them from the Penalty Of the Blazing Fire.​
 

Jamani haya maneno mnayatoa wapiiiiii!!!!!!!?dah
 

hivi unafikiri mimi ni wa kufanyiwa spoon feeding kama wewe!!
Huna unachojua!!!
 
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hivi unafikiri mimi ni wa kufanyiwa spoon feeding kama wewe!!
Huna unachojua!!!
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Everything Islam is – that Islam stands for - God stands against. Islam is a total and complete rejection of God, inter-alia, Islam is the greatest crime and sin ever committed by man against God.

WOMEN ARE ½ HUMAN BEINGS AND STUPID CREATURES

4:11 God (thus) directs you as regards your Children's (Inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females
4:176 They ask thee for a legal decision. Say: God directs (thus) about those who leave no descendants or ascendants as heirs. ... if there are brothers and sisters, (they share), the male having twice the share of the female.
4:14 Women have very little intelligence-their own testimony is inadmissible in rape cases; in other matters their testimony is half to that of a man
 

What I know for sure is that not everything can be explained by science. We cannot domesticate God. Look at these scenerios:
1. There was a guy (a catholic missionary priest), who was diagnosed with cancer and was told he had only one month to live. He started preparing for his last day, but he has lived for over 20 years.
2. In 1997, I met a couple, who had written a book entitled "Why we don't have children". In the book there was this line "it has been medically proved that we cannot have children". In 2004, I contacted this couple by email and they replied: "We are fine and we are glad to let you know that God has helped us, as we have now four children."
3. Last year, I met another couple and they showed me a medical report they had from a certain hospital in Dar es Salaam. The report read "both fallopian tubes blocked... conception unlikely." This year they went to another hospital and the medical report read: "One fallopian tube perfectly well... the other....??? Conception possible." Actually, the wife conceived twice. Unfortunately she had a miscarriage.
4. There is a friend of mine whose marriage of almost 5 years was nearly going to end for each time she slept with his wife he experienced premature ejaculation. The guy is naturally nervous. At the end the wife believed the guy was useless and she was about to leave him. The guy took courage and came to explain this embarassing sitution to me, expecting that if I knew anything of any assistance I should help him. I felt very sorry for him. He shared with me how he was struggling to overcome it using different herbs and advice from other friends, but nothing worked. After he explained to me all this, I told him that if he trusted God could do something he would change his life and make both he and his wife happier or the person he was meant to be. So, that day I told him: "Before you sleep with your wife today say this prayer: O Lord, you created me as man and for that reason I decided to marry. Yet, each time I sleep with my wife I experience this embassing situation and our marriage is in danger. You know how embarrasing this is for me and how painful it is for me. Please, Lord, make me the person you want me to be." I told him he should be praying it everyday. It seems when he said it that day, his embassing situation ceased to date and the wife never made any further complaints.
5. So, what explanation could you give to each of these? Science? More than science?
 

Hapo ndo uzuri wa uislam ulipo mnajitahid kutaka kupotosha tafsiri ya quran kwa kutengeneza tafsiri ki yahudi lakini Allah kailinda quran kwa kuiweka kweny lugha asilia .....eti Allah deciever hyo ni jewish translation lakn quran didnt mean tha when tokd abt "makarun"
 
Mi naona MAXSHIMBA ni mtu ambae hata kama anajua ukweli ni upi yeye amejitolea kuupinga kwakuwa amejichagulia upotofu na ndo hapo inapokuja maana ya 5:41 kuwa mtu ambae Allah amempa mtihan ww huwezi kumuongoa kama yy mwnyw hataki uongofu..

Na 5:101 inasema enyi mliomini msiulize maswali ambayo mkijibiwa mtachukia maswali ambayo hayana maslahi na dini ni personal questions kwa mfano watu walikuwa wanauliza hv mke wangu ameshawah kunisaliti? Au hv mimi nitakufa tajiri au maskini ndo maana quran ikawonya maswli ya namna hiyo ....aya inaendelea kwa kusema ila mkiuliza kwenye quran hamna budi kujibiwa tu
 

 
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Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30

Quran proves Allah is Satan the DECEIVER in Islam. Allah deceives people to do evil - YouTube
 


1. Sura Al-Baqara 2:109​


Many of the People of the Book wish, through envy, to lead you back to unbelief, now that you have embraced the faith and the truth has been made plain to them. Forgive them and bear with them until Allah makes known His will. He has power over all things.

Hapa quran inaongelea watu wa kitabu (yaani Wakristo), na kusema:

Wengi wa watu wa kitabu, kutokana na wivu wao, wanatamani kuwarudisheni kwenye kutoamini baada ya kuwa mmeamini, pamoja na kwamba ukweli umeshadhihirishwa wazi mbele yao. Kwa hiyo wasameheni na kuwavumilia hadi Allah atakapowafunulia mapenzi yake. Yeye ana nguvu juu ya kila kitu.

Quran pia inawaagiza Waislamu katika sura Al Imran 3:20 kwamba:

... if they give no heed, then your only duty is to warn them.

Yaani:

... kama wasipowasikiliza, basi ninyi kazi yenu pekee ni kuwaonya tu.

Kwa hiyo, kutokana na aya hizi mbili, yaani Al-Baqara 2:109 na Al Imran 3:20, tunaona mambo yafuatayo:

1.Ni wajibu wa Waislamu kuhubiri dini yao lakini si wajibu wao kuwalazimisha watu kuamini dini yao.​
2.Allah kwa wakati wake atawafunulia wale wasioamini ukweli wa mambo.​
3.Ni wajibu wa Waislamu kutoa maonyo tu kwa wale wanaowahubiria.​


LAKINI, HEBU TAZAMA AYA ZIFUATAZO:

Al-Nisa 4:101

The unbelievers are your sworn enemies.

Yaani,

Wale wasioamini ni maadui zenu wakubwa.

Vilevile inasema katika sura Al-Tawba 9:3


Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers.

Yaani:

Tangazeni mapigo makuu (ya ole) kwa wasioamini.

Pia quran inasema katika sura Al-Anfal 8:39

Make war on them until persecution is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme.

Yaani:

Fanyeni vita juu yao hadi kusiwepo na mateso tena na hadi pale dini ya Allah itakapokuwa imetawala.

Maswali:​

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1. Je, aliyempa Muhammad maneno ya 2:109, 3:20 na yale ya 4:101, 9:3, 8:39 ni huyo huyo au ni wawili tofauti?​
2. Iweje aseme kuwa usiwalazimishe watu kuamini bali waonyeni na kuwavumilia tu, kisha anageuka sehemu nyingine na kusema walazimisheni, tena kwa vita?​
3. Je, hii si ishara ya tabia ya usahaulifu ambayo si tabia ya Mungu bali ni ya mwanadamu?​
4. Kama ni huyo huyo, je, aya hizi zinafanana au zinapingana?​
5. Kama zinafanana, ni kwa vipi?​
6. Kama zinapingana, huu si ushahidi tayari kuwa quran haitoki kwa Mungu wa kweli kama ambavyo quran yenyewe imeweka kigezo cha kujua hilo? Maana Mungu wa kweli hawezi hata kidogo kusahau jambo alilolisema kabla halafu aje aseme kitu tofauti. Ni viumbe tu ndio wanaweza kusahau na kukosea.​
 
2. Sura Al-Ankabut 29:6​

Quran inasema:

Allah does not need his creatures' help.

Yaani,

Allah hahitaji kusaidiwa na viumbe wake. (bila shaka ni katika kutekeleza makusudi na mipango yake).

LAKINI QURAN HIYO HIYO INAWAAMBIA WAISLAMU:

Sura Muhammad 47:7

If you help Allah, He will help you and make you strong.

Yaani,

Kama mkimsaidia Allah, yeye naye atawasaidia na kuwafanya kuwa imara.

Maswali:​

1. Umesema huhitaji msaada, kisha unasema tena unahitaji msaada! Je, Mungu anaweza kufanya jambo kama hilo?​
2. Aya hizi zinafanana au zinapingana?​
3. Je, hii si ishara kuwa aya hizi zilisemwa tu ili kukidhi mahitaji ya wakati fulani, lakini msemaji alipoona anahitaji kuwafanya watu watende kinyume chake, akajikuta amesema tofauti na alivyosema siku za nyuma?​

Na tena quran inasema katika sura Al-Baqara 2:244


Fight for the cause of Allah and bear in mind that He hears all and knows all.

Yaani:

Fanyeni vita kwa ajili ya Allah na mkumbuke kwamba anaona yote na anajua yote.

Maswali:​

1. Kama kweli Allah hahitaji msaada wa viumbe wake; na kama kweli aliumba ulimwengu wote kwa NENO TU, iweje NENO hilo hilo lisiweze kuwabadilisha wanadamu hadi alazimike kuliingiza ndani yao kwa nguvu, kwa vitisho na kwa ukali namna hiyo?​

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(Ukristo unashinda na kufanikiwa kwa NENO tu. Maana sisi tumeumbwa kwa mfano wa Mungu wetu. Yeye aliumba kwa Neno; na sisi watoto wake, tunaumba kwa Neno hilo hilo. Tunahubiri tu na watu wanaokolewa, wanaponywa, wanalindwa na kusimama na Mungu wa kweli. Huoni kwamba hii hasa ndiyo maana ya nguvu ya Mungu? Hatuhitaji kuchinja au kupiga watu ili wampende Mungu!! Unawezaje, hata tu wewe mwenyewe, kumfanya mwanao au mkeo akupende kwa njia ya vipigo na kulazimisha? yaani, ukitaka mwanao au mkeo akupende utamshikia rungu au panga au bunduki? Je, hiyo si ishara kwamba wewe huna nguvu ndiyo maana unalazimisha? je, huko si kujikanganya maana umetuambia kuwa wewe ni Mungu unayeweza yote?)​
2. Je, Allah anapotaka wanadamu wanaomwamini wafanye vita ili kuwalazimisha wasioamini wamwamini, huko si kutaka msaada kwa viumbe wake?​
 
3. Sura Al-Shura 42:40​

Let evil be rewarded with like evil. But he that forgives and seeks reconcilement shall be rewarded by Allah.

Aya hii inamaanisha kuwa yule anayemwamini Allah akitendewa uovu basi anatakiwa alipe uovu, lakini akisamehe atapata thawabu!

Maswali:​

1. Kama aliyetenda uovu anakuwa ametenda jambo baya ambalo halitakiwi na halikubaliki, iweje lile la mlipa kisasi litakiwe na kukubalika? Huku si kujikanganya?​
2. Lakini hapo hapo, Allah anasema kuwa mwislamu anayesamehe na kusaka maelewano atapata thawabu kutoka kwa Allah. Unawezaje kukubali vitu viwili vinavyopingana? Kwa mfano, unawezaje kusema kuwa, mtu akikutukana, nawe ukimtukana ni sawa; na usipomtukana ni sawa!​
3. Kikubwa kuliko chenzake ni kipi hapa sasa? Je, ni kulipa kisasi au kusamehe? Mbona mambo yenyewe hata hayafanani? Yanawezaje kwenda pamoja?​
 
4. Sura Al-Kafirun 109:1-6​

Say, "O unbelievers, I do not worship what you worship, nor do you worship what I worship. I shall never worship what you worship, nor will you worship what I worship. You have your own religion and I have mine."

Yaani,

Enyi msioamini, mimi siabudu mnachoabudu, wala ninyi hamuabudu ninachoabudu. Mimi kamwe sitaabudu kile mnachokiabudu, wala ninyi kuabudu kile ninachokiabudu. Ninyi mnayo dini yenu, nami nina yangu.

Pia, quran inasema katika sura Al-Baqara 2:256

There shall be no compulsion in religion.

Yaani:

Hakutakuwapo na kulazimishana katika dini.


LAKINI ALLAH HUYO HUYO ANASEMA:

Sura Al-Anfal 8:39

Make war on them until persecution is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme.

Yaani:

Fanyeni vita juu yao hadi kusiwepo na mateso tena na hadi pale dini ya Allah itakapokuwa imetawala.

Maswali:​
1. Aliyemwambia Muhammad asiwalazimishe wasioamini kuamini Uislamu ndiye huyo huyo aliyemwambia afanye vita?​
2. Aliyesema kuwa "ninyi msioamini hamtaabudu ninachoabudu" ndiye huyo huyo anayesema ni vita tu hadi dini ya Allah itawale?​
3. Na je, aliyesema kuwa hakuna kulazimishana katika masuala ya dini ndiye huyo huyo anayesema watu wake wapigane vita?​
4. Huku si kujipinga mwenyewe?​
 
5. Sura Al-Baqara 2:177​


Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah ...


Yaani:


Haki (mbele za Mungu) haitokani na mtu kugeukia mashariki au magharibi. Mtu mwenye haki ni yule anayemwamini Allah ...


LAKINI QURAN HIYO HIYO INASEMA:


Sura Al-Baqara 2:144


Indeed, we see you look repetedly towards heaven. We will make you turn towards a qiblah that will please you. So turn your face towards the sacred Mosque (qiblah). Wherever you are, turn your faces to it.


Yaani:


Tumekuona unavyoelekeza macho yako mbinguni tena na tena. Tutawafanya muigeukie qiblah itakayowafurahisha. Hivyo, geuzeni nyuso zenu kuelekea msikiti mtakatifu [japo quran zingine zinasema ‘towards al-Masjid al-Haram' – najiuliza 'Haram' maana yake nini!!]


Maswali:​
1. Kama aliyesema aya hizi mbili ni yuleyule; na ni Mungu wa mbinguni, inakuwaje zinapingana?​
2. Kama zimetoka kwa Mungu wa mbinguni, si jambo la ajabu kuona kwamba hapendi watu waelekeze macho yake kule aliko badala yake waelekeze kwingineko?
3. Kama wewe tunayekuabudu uko juu, kwa nini hautaki tuelekeza macho yetu huko? Huu si mkanganyiko?
4. Na kama wewe ni Mungu uliye mahali KOTE, kwa nini nielekeze macho yangu sehemu moja?​
 
6. Sura Al-Nisa 4:135​

Believers, conduct yourselves with justice.

Yaani,

Enyi mlioamini, enendeni kwa njia ya haki.

Hapa Allah anazungumzia juu ya haki.

LAKINI ALLAH HUYO HUYO ANASEMA:

Sura Al-Nisa 4:129

In no way you can treat your wives in a just manner even though you may wish to do that...

Yaani:

Haiwezekani kamwe kwa ninyi kuwatendea haki wake zenu hata kama mngependa kufanya hivyo ...

Maswali:​
1. Aya hizi zinafanana au zinapingana?​
2. Kama hazipingani ni kwa vipi?​
 
7. Sura Al-Nahl 16:28​
The angels will say to those whom they cause to die in purity, ‘Peace be on you.' Come into paradise for what you did.

Yaani:

[Kuhusu wale wanaoingia mbinguni] – Malaika watasema kwa wale ambao watawafanya wafe katika usafi (utakatifu), ‘Amani na iwe juu yenu. Ingieni paradiso kutokana na matendo yenu.'

LAKINI, QURAN HIYO HIYO INASEMA:

Sura Al-Hijr 15:45-47


Indeed, the righteous will be within gardens and springs, [Having been told], "Enter it in peace, safe [and secure]." And We will remove whatever is in their breasts of resentment, [so they will be] brothers, on thrones facing each other.

Yaani:

Wenye haki (watakatifu) watakaa kwenye bustani na chemchemi za maji, kwa amani na usalama wataingia humo. Nasi tutaondoa chuki yote ndani ya mioyo yao.

Maswali:​
1. Katika 16:28, inaonekana kwamba watakaiongia peponi ni watu walio safi kwa sababu malaika wamesababisha watu hao wafe wakiwa safi. Lakini 15:45-47 inaonyesha kuwa wataingia peponi wakiwa na chuki mioyoni mwao. Je, chuki ni sehemu ya usafi?​
2. Je, aya hizi zimetoka kwa mtoaji yule yule?​
3. Kama chuki ni mbaya kiasi cha kuhitajika kuondolewa mioyoni mwa Waislamu wanaoingia peponi, iweje wakiwa duniani wanaagizwa kuwachukia wale wasio Waislamu (kama tulivyoona kwenye 4:101)?​
 
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Na mimi nakubaliana na wewe 100% !!

Lkn Tatizo ni moja!

Imani yangu mimi ina kanuni nyingi tu!

Na moja ya kanuni muhimu ni KUPINGA VIKALI MTU ANAPOMZULIA MUNGU MKUU UONGO!

Nadhani utashangaa nikisema hivi!

Ninaposema MUNGU MKUU! nina maana Mungu muumbaji wa mbingu na dunia na waliomo humo, na ni muumba wa kila kitu!

Angalia mfano HINDUS! au BUDDIST au SIKH!
Hawa wote pia wanaabudu mungu lkn hawasemi kuwa mungu wao ndio muumba! NA si MUNGU MKUU!
Kwa hiyo mimi silazimiki kusema chochote watakacho sema kuhusu hao miungu wao!

Lkn Unaposema uongo juu ya MUNGU MKUU na wale walio amrishwa na imani yao kusema haki juu ya huyo MUNGU MKUU!
Basi hawana budi kukuambia ukweli! Japo kuwa huo ukweli unauma!

Kitu kingine kibaya zaidi juu ya hao wanaosema uongo juu ya mungu, sio tu wanakaa nao huo uongo peke yako! La hasha!
Wana uhubiri kila kona ya ulimwengu!

Na kwa sababu tulikaa kimya miaka yote na tukawaacha mpaka wakawa wana tugongea milango na kutugawia vitabu vyenye picha za wazungu!

Leo hii tunaubeba huo msalaba wote!

Leo hizo nyumba za ibada zimekuwa ni gumzo la vyombo vya habari!

ULIBERALI UMEVAMIA NDANI YA NYUMBA HIZO ZINAZOITWA ZA IBADA!

Na tukiendelea kukaa kimya! Kesho itatungwa sheria na serikali zetu ya kuwalazimisha watoto wetu kujifunza uliberali!!

Tunayaona hayo leo huku Ulaya!
Ukimsema vibaya Mliberali unafungwa jela!

Sasa kama KANISA limeshindwa kusema ukweli ambao YESU AMEUFUNDISHA !
Basi sisi tunao muheshi MUNGU na MANABII WAKE Tutasema ukweli!

Na hii tabia ya kusema mimi na wenzangu tuna zi crash dini zingine!
Sidhani kama kuna ukweli ndani yake!
Mwenye kutumia matusi na kashfa sio mimi na muislamu yyt ila ni huyu anaejiita nabii wa Yesu ambae ana majina mengi saana! Na moja ya hayo ni SCHMIDT au MaxShimba na cha kusikitisha ni kuwa huyu anadai ni mkiristo! Na anacho kifanya humu SI KUHUBIRI INJILI ni kutukana na kutoa kashfa kuhusu imani ya kiislamu, NA MTU KAMA WEWE HATA SIKU MOJA HUJATOKEA NA KUMKEMEA KUWA HUO SIO UJUMBE ALIYO FUNDISHA YESU!

Wewe umeniona mimi tu!!?

Mbona mengi tu mi sisemi!!

We tizama pale ninaposema mimi, utakuta mtu kaisha anza kusema uongo kuhusu Aidha
MUNGU MKUU au YESU MWANA WA MARIA (ambae pia ni mmoja ktk manabii wa dini yangu!)

Ndugu Sir Mimi lzm tukubali kuwa kama wewe unajiita mdini basi huna budi kufuata msingi na maamrisho ya dini yako!
Na mimi ninacho fanya ni kufuata maamrisho tu ya dini yangu!
Na mimi sina ubaya na watu wenye imani tofauti na yangu hata kidogo! Na naomba MUNGU SAANA! kwamba itokee siku watu waache kusema uongo juu ya MUNGU ALIYE TUUMBA!

Halafu kila mtu aabudu anachotaka na tuisubiri hiyo siku ya malipo!

Naomba uniwie radhi kama nimekukwaza lkn nia yangu ni Kusema yaliyo Haki tu juu ya MUNGU WANGU MKUU,
 
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