Kabendera Saga

Msengi Kiula · Jan 3, 2020

The criminal law regime is silent with regards to right of *unconvicted prisoner* or *rumandee* to attend the Burial Ceremony of his parent or any other relative. Both *the Prisons(Management) Regulations, 1968* and *the Prisons Act, Cap. 58* are silent on the matter. Also, the Criminal Procedure Act, Cap. 20 as well as the Magistrates Court Act, Cap. 11 too are silent on the matter.

It is impriginable legal principle of ages in all common law jurisdictions that _*“Everything is permitted except what is forbidden by the law”*_, in other words, we as citizens, we are permitted or entitled to do things not only which the law expressly or impliedly permits or entitles us to do but also citizens are permitted or entitled to do even those *"things which the law is silient"*.

This principle was well elucidated by Justice Laws in the case of _*R Vs Somerset County Council, Experte Fewings [1995] 1 All ER 513*_ (specifically at page 524) and Justice Robert Meggary in case of *Malone Vs Commissioner for the Metropolitan Police [1979] Ch 344*.

With the absence of express or implied provisions of law that outlaws or prohibits rumandee from attending burial ceremony of his parent or relative, therefore, it goes without saying that the rumandee is entitled such right.

Last year in Kenya, the accused of murder case one *Sarah Wairimu Cohen* sought and obtained order of the Court to attend burial ceremony of his late husband one *Tob Cohen* and the said order was granted by the High Court (Criminal Division) at Nairobi in the case of *Republic Vs Sarah Wairimu Cohen, Criminal Case No. 60 of 2019* as per *Matuka, J*.

*Sarah Cohen* attended the burial ceremony of her late husband one *Tob Cohen*

2/1/2020

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Kasimba G · Jan 3, 2020

Here in Tz is like a jungle court! Had you been fair you would relate this jungle court with the Russians and the like! Kenyans are prudes not like here!

In here is a finger court, jungle court, one office court and the like, I doubt if there is a rule of law here! Just survival for the fitest!!

Alexander The Great · Jan 3, 2020

Sheria inapokua "KIMYA" kuhusiana na jambo fulani, lugha ya kisheria panapokua na "LACUNA", basi mwenendo wa kimahakama hua ni "KUCHUKUA au KURITHI" maamuzi ya jambo hilo katika nchi za madola (Common Wealth Countries). Hilo swala la kurithi au kuchukua sheria kwa wenzetu lipo wazi na halipingwi.

Yaani mahakama huangalia nchi za wenzetu kama vile Kenya, Uganda, Uingereza, Australia, India katika sheria zao kama jambo hilo linaruhusiwa au haliruhusiwi. Na kama mahakama ikijithibitisha jambo hilo linaruhusiwa kwa wenzetu baada ya kuangalia "Leading Cases au Landmark Decisions" , basi hulikubali na kulithiri na linakua sheria ya kurithi sio sheria ya bungeni (Case Law).

Cha kushangaza, Hakimu Wa Mahakama Ya Kisutu baada ya kugundua sheria ipo kimya katika ruhusa ya mtuhumiwa kwenda kufanya/kuhudhuria jambo lolote (Sheria Ina Lacuna), hakutumia "BUSARA" ya kimahakama na mwenendo wa kuangalia katika nchi za mataifa ya kidola na wala hakutumia kigezo chochote kisheria (RATIO DECIDENDI) kutokuangalia "Sheria Za Kenya, Uganda, India, Uingereza na Nchi nyingine za Common Wealth".

# Mwendelezo wa "KUIBAKA" katiba na sheria nchini. katiba ya nchi mpaka sasa itakua na "MIMBA YA MIAKA MITANO" labda, baada ya kubakwa kwa muda mrefu, na pengine hata katiba itakua imeshapata "MAGONJWA YA ZINAA".

Mtumishi Wetu · Jan 3, 2020

Huu ni unyama uliokithiri kama Mahakama Kenya inaruhusu mtuhumiwa wa mauwaji azike mmewe, kwa nini Eric Kabendera azuiwe kuzika mama yake?

Mahakama zimebakwa zinasikiza matakwa ya muhimili dora!

Waone aibu basi maana hata hayo mashitaka mahakama zichambue sio kumeza na mifupa ili haki za watu zilindwe.

Demi · Jan 3, 2020

Mtumishi Wetu said:
Huu ni unyama uliokithiri kama Mahakama Kenya inaruhusu mtuhumiwa wa mauwaji azike mmewe, kwa nini Eric Kabendera azuiwe kuzika mama yake?

Mahakama zimebakwa zinasikiza matakwa ya muhimili dora!

Waone aibu basi maana hata hayo mashitaka mahakama zichambue sio kumeza na mifupa ili haki za watu zilindwe.

Hivu mahabusu wengine huwa wanarusiwa au haijawahi tokea mahabasu akafiwa na mtu wake wa karibu? Labda kwanza tujiulize hili.
Hii haki aliyonyimwa kabendera ni yeye tu au imeshawahi tokea kwa wengine?

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Bishweko · Jan 5, 2020

Demi said:
Hivu mahabusu wengine huwa wanarusiwa au haijawahi tokea mahabasu akafiwa na mtu wake wa karibu? Labda kwanza tujiulize hili.
Hii haki aliyonyimwa kabendera ni yeye tu au imeshawahi tokea kwa wengine?

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Kuna uwezekano hakuna mahabusi aliewai kuomba au kutaka hii haki yake itimizwe. Kutokuwepo watu wa hivyo aimanishi kua huyu asipewe hiyo haki.

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Demi · Jan 5, 2020

Bishweko said:
Kuna uwezekano hakuna mahabusi aliewai kuomba au kutaka hii haki yake itimizwe..Kutokuwepo watu wa hivyo aimanishi kua huyu asipewe hiyo haki

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Huyu ni special case ati!

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THE SEAL · Jan 7, 2020

Alexander The Great said:
Sheria inapokua "KIMYA" kuhusiana na jambo fulani, lugha ya kisheria panapokua na "LACUNA", basi mwenendo wa kimahakama hua ni "KUCHUKUA au KURITHI" maamuzi ya jambo hilo katika nchi za madola (Common Wealth Countries). Hilo swala la kurithi au kuchukua sheria kwa wenzetu lipo wazi na halipingwi.

Yaani mahakama huangalia nchi za wenzetu kama vile Kenya, Uganda, Uingereza, Australia, India katika sheria zao kama jambo hilo linaruhusiwa au haliruhusiwi. Na kama mahakama ikijithibitisha jambo hilo linaruhusiwa kwa wenzetu baada ya kuangalia "Leading Cases au Landmark Decisions" , basi hulikubali na kulithiri na linakua sheria ya kurithi sio sheria ya bungeni (Case Law).

Cha kushangaza, Hakimu Wa Mahakama Ya Kisutu baada ya kugundua sheria ipo kimya katika ruhusa ya mtuhumiwa kwenda kufanya/kuhudhuria jambo lolote (Sheria Ina Lacuna), hakutumia "BUSARA" ya kimahakama na mwenendo wa kuangalia katika nchi za mataifa ya kidola na wala hakutumia kigezo chochote kisheria (RATIO DECIDENDI) kutokuangalia "Sheria Za Kenya, Uganda, India, Uingereza na Nchi nyingine za Common Wealth".

# Mwendelezo wa "KUIBAKA" katiba na sheria nchini. katiba ya nchi mpaka sasa itakua na "MIMBA YA MIAKA MITANO" labda, baada ya kubakwa kwa muda mrefu, na pengine hata katiba itakua imeshapata "MAGONJWA YA ZINAA".

Thanks sir, you are always on point, you really educated people here, yes the kisutu magistrate could have looked at other rulings in commonwealth countries, like recently our neigbour kenya where just last year one sarah cohen got permission to go and burry her hubby, and mind you this sarah is suspect in the murder of the said cohen her hubby, but hapa kwetu tz sio sheria inafanya kazi, kile kinafanya kazi ni MAANGIZO TOKA JUU,

THE SEAL · Jan 7, 2020

Demi said:
Hivu mahabusu wengine huwa wanarusiwa au haijawahi tokea mahabasu akafiwa na mtu wake wa karibu? Labda kwanza tujiulize hili.
Hii haki aliyonyimwa kabendera ni yeye tu au imeshawahi tokea kwa wengine?

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I dont blame you, I blame your inability to comprehend what is being discussed here, this discussion my sister is WAY BEYOND YOU, try other places or things to comment on, not this issue of Kabendera pls, good luck

leodigardcyrilo · Jan 7, 2020

Alexander The Great said:
Sheria inapokua "KIMYA" kuhusiana na jambo fulani, lugha ya kisheria panapokua na "LACUNA", basi mwenendo wa kimahakama hua ni "KUCHUKUA au KURITHI" maamuzi ya jambo hilo katika nchi za madola (Common Wealth Countries). Hilo swala la kurithi au kuchukua sheria kwa wenzetu lipo wazi na halipingwi.

Yaani mahakama huangalia nchi za wenzetu kama vile Kenya, Uganda, Uingereza, Australia, India katika sheria zao kama jambo hilo linaruhusiwa au haliruhusiwi. Na kama mahakama ikijithibitisha jambo hilo linaruhusiwa kwa wenzetu baada ya kuangalia "Leading Cases au Landmark Decisions" , basi hulikubali na kulithiri na linakua sheria ya kurithi sio sheria ya bungeni (Case Law).

Cha kushangaza, Hakimu Wa Mahakama Ya Kisutu baada ya kugundua sheria ipo kimya katika ruhusa ya mtuhumiwa kwenda kufanya/kuhudhuria jambo lolote (Sheria Ina Lacuna), hakutumia "BUSARA" ya kimahakama na mwenendo wa kuangalia katika nchi za mataifa ya kidola na wala hakutumia kigezo chochote kisheria (RATIO DECIDENDI) kutokuangalia "Sheria Za Kenya, Uganda, India, Uingereza na Nchi nyingine za Common Wealth".

# Mwendelezo wa "KUIBAKA" katiba na sheria nchini. katiba ya nchi mpaka sasa itakua na "MIMBA YA MIAKA MITANO" labda, baada ya kubakwa kwa muda mrefu, na pengine hata katiba itakua imeshapata "MAGONJWA YA ZINAA".

Kweli

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Demi · Jan 7, 2020

THE SEAL said:
i dont blame you, i blame your inability to comprehend what is being discussed here, this discussion my sister is WAY BEYOND YOU, try other places or things to comment on, not this issue of kabendera pls, good luck

Una mawazo ya kijinga. Mimi nimeuliza swali nataka kujua ungekaa kimya mwenye uelewa anijibu. Wewe unayejifanya much know huna jibu lolote la maana unadhani labda nafurahia mateso ya kabendera. You are very wrong...jibu hoja kama huwezi ondoa mihemko yako hapa.
Jibu lako la maana kwenye hii hoja liko wapi au unataka wote tulielie tu bila sababu ya msingi. Nahitaji kujua kama mahabusu huwa wanapewa haki yao ya msingi kwa mujibu wa sheria.

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Alexander The Great · Jan 7, 2020

THE SEAL said:
Thanks sir, you are always on point, you really educated people here, yes the kisutu magistrate could have looked at other rulings in commonwealth countries, like recently our neigbour kenya where just last year one sarah cohen got permission to go and burry her hubby, and mind you this sarah is suspect in the murder of the said cohen her hubby, but hapa kwetu tz sio sheria inafanya kazi, kile kinafanya kazi ni MAANGIZO TOKA JUU,

100000% your right, Sarah Wairimu Cohen ndio mshtakiwa number moja wa yale mauwaji, ila alipewa ruhusa ya kwenda kuzika mtu anaeshtakiwa kumuua (Imagine giving permission to a murder suspect to attend the burial of the person whom the same suspect is suspected to have killed). This is the rule of law worldwide, ila sio kwetu tanzania.

South Africa, Oscar Pistorius alikutwa na hatia ya kumuua kwa uzembe mchumba wake, ila wakati anatumikia kifungo chake gerezani alipewa ruhusa na mahakama kwenda kumzika bibi yake aliefariki (Found guilty in a murder case, but was given permission to attend his grandmother's funeral).

THE SEAL · Jan 8, 2020

Demi said:
Una mawazo ya kijinga. Mimi nimeuliza swali nataka kujua ungekaa kimya mwenye uelewa anijibu. Wewe unayejifanya much know huna jibu lolote la maana unadhani labda nafurahia mateso ya kabendera. You are very wrong...jibu hoja kama huwezi ondoa mihemko yako hapa.
Jibu lako la maana kwenye hii hoja liko wapi au unataka wote tulielie tu bila sababu ya msingi. Nahitaji kujua kama mahabusu huwa wanapewa haki yao ya msingi kwa mujibu wa sheria.

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Answer me in english pls

Demi · Jan 8, 2020

THE SEAL said:
Answer me in english pls

Ulinipeleka shule wewe? Basi unajiona umeyapatia maisha [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]. Duniani Kuna vituko havijawahi isha. Haya kakojoe ulale na kiingilish chako huna hata hoja [emoji57]

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Scale · Jan 8, 2020

JF unaweza kupagawa Wallah [emoji1787] Mtu anataka ajibiwe kwa lugha ya Malikia ati! Kaaz kweli

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Demi · Jan 8, 2020

Scale said:
JF unaweza kupagawa Wallah [emoji1787] Mtu anataka ajibiwe kwa lugha ya Malikia ati! Kaaz kweli

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[emoji3][emoji3] kumbe hata UK hajafika..you know you know. In Magu"s voice

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Proved · Jan 9, 2020

Alexander The Great said:
# Mwendelezo wa "KUIBAKA" katiba na sheria nchini. katiba ya nchi mpaka sasa itakua na "MIMBA YA MIAKA MITANO" labda, baada ya kubakwa kwa muda mrefu, na pengine hata katiba itakua imeshapata "MAGONJWA YA ZINAA".

....🙄🙄🙄

Kelevra · Jul 27, 2020

Alexander The Great said:
Sheria inapokua "KIMYA" kuhusiana na jambo fulani, lugha ya kisheria panapokua na "LACUNA", basi mwenendo wa kimahakama hua ni "KUCHUKUA au KURITHI" maamuzi ya jambo hilo katika nchi za madola (Common Wealth Countries). Hilo swala la kurithi au kuchukua sheria kwa wenzetu lipo wazi na halipingwi.

Yaani mahakama huangalia nchi za wenzetu kama vile Kenya, Uganda, Uingereza, Australia, India katika sheria zao kama jambo hilo linaruhusiwa au haliruhusiwi. Na kama mahakama ikijithibitisha jambo hilo linaruhusiwa kwa wenzetu baada ya kuangalia "Leading Cases au Landmark Decisions" , basi hulikubali na kulithiri na linakua sheria ya kurithi sio sheria ya bungeni (Case Law).

Cha kushangaza, Hakimu Wa Mahakama Ya Kisutu baada ya kugundua sheria ipo kimya katika ruhusa ya mtuhumiwa kwenda kufanya/kuhudhuria jambo lolote (Sheria Ina Lacuna), hakutumia "BUSARA" ya kimahakama na mwenendo wa kuangalia katika nchi za mataifa ya kidola na wala hakutumia kigezo chochote kisheria (RATIO DECIDENDI) kutokuangalia "Sheria Za Kenya, Uganda, India, Uingereza na Nchi nyingine za Common Wealth".

# Mwendelezo wa "KUIBAKA" katiba na sheria nchini. katiba ya nchi mpaka sasa itakua na "MIMBA YA MIAKA MITANO" labda, baada ya kubakwa kwa muda mrefu, na pengine hata katiba itakua imeshapata "MAGONJWA YA ZINAA".

This one is the best comment ever... there's nothing more to add...kudos kwako mkuu.

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